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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: iBozz (IP Logged)
Date: 06 April, 2019 18:00

National 1: Saturday, 6th April 2019

Sale FC 31 - 22 Plymouth Albion

The five points have secured our place in National 1 for next season. Had we not kicked the ball away too often without finding touch and not been so woeful at tackling, our winning margin could even have been better. Nevertheless an important win.

An outstanding performance by Paulo Odogwu - by ‘eckythump can ‘e run fast!

10th of 16.



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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: Flumpty (IP Logged)
Date: 08 April, 2019 10:11

Badly - Kendal are relegated

I might get to see MikeGC in person next season !

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: MikeGC (IP Logged)
Date: 08 April, 2019 10:42

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Flumpty
Badly - Kendal are relegated
I might get to see MikeGC in person next season !

Douglas (IoM) 11 Racing Club de Burnage 25

There is an outside chance we can avoid relegation ourselves

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: PoyntonShark (IP Logged)
Date: 08 April, 2019 15:47

A few weeks to catch up on

2 March - Sandbach 32 v 17 Scunny
9 march - Syston 28 v 24 Scunny
23 March - Scunny 32 v 21 Sheffield
30 March - Bournville 17 v 24 Scunny
6 April - Scunny 45 v 12 Bridgnorth


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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: Flumpty (IP Logged)
Date: 10 April, 2019 09:48

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MikeGC
Quote:
Flumpty
Badly - Kendal are relegated
I might get to see MikeGC in person next season !

Douglas (IoM) 11 Racing Club de Burnage 25

There is an outside chance we can avoid relegation ourselves

Mike, I'm hoping that you guys stay up.
For Kendal, it'll depend if they are playing in the NW or NE Division next season - I'm unsure how it works when a team can play in more than one area (e.g Penrith were in the NE last season but are NW this season)

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: H's D (IP Logged)
Date: 10 April, 2019 11:31

Burnage and Mnachester both in the dog fight to avoid relegation in an incredibly competitive league.
2 weeks ago we lost by only 5 points away to the clear league winners Carlise, a home loss later to the 4th placed team last week-end and it's do or die against Waterloo in the final game....
Any other year and 61 points would see you safe ......

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: iBozz (IP Logged)
Date: 13 April, 2019 17:44

National 1: Saturday, 13th April 2019.

Ampthill 57 - 12 Sale FC a very very bad day at the office but, thank goodness, no red cards!

But at least an old boy "done good"! The legendary Paul Turner, without whom it is highly unlikely that SS would be in the Premiership, is the Coach at Ampthill.



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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: DaveAitch (IP Logged)
Date: 14 April, 2019 09:51

Something of a late Renaissance for Caldy. A win sees them push ahead of Cambridge. Winning next week at Moseley would mean leap-frogging them too. A loss (or draw) and a Cambridge win would see Caldy relegated I believe.

More worrying for me is the overall state of rugby. Caldy 2nds were fairly convincing winners of their league, Conference A. However, there are no other senior teams playing regularly. A third team did get out a few weeks back, but that was mainly colts who haven't been getting many games with the demise of the colts' league.

Even worse Sale FC 2nds have been removed from their league, as a number of games had been cried off (five, I think, in total for the season. From the outside the closer links with Sharks don't seem to have helped, to put it euphemistically. I have my theories as to how and why this has happened, but I wonder if any Sale FC members would be prepared to comment. It doesn't seem that long ago that both clubs (and many others) were getting four teems out.

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: iBozz (IP Logged)
Date: 14 April, 2019 12:37

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DaveAitch
Even worse Sale FC 2nds have been removed from their league, as a number of games had been cried off (five, I think, in total for the season. From the outside the closer links with Sharks don't seem to have helped, to put it euphemistically. I have my theories as to how and why this has happened, but I wonder if any Sale FC members would be prepared to comment. It doesn't seem that long ago that both clubs (and many others) were getting four teems out.

Speaking for myself and not for or on behalf of SFC, I think there are many reasons, some specific to SFC and some more general.

As I have said earlier, I'm not sure that the sharing of players between SS and SFC has been a great help to us. As The Law of Unintended Consequences has, in my view, demonstrated it has resulted in an ever changing and unsettled line up so we lack consistency in our 1st XV.

SFC only have one pitch at Heywood Road, all the others are at our training facilities at Carrington so when playing at the latter it doesn’t necessarily seem to the players that they are a part of SFC because they are geographically remote from the main Clubhouse. There are, to the best of my knowledge, no real social or bar facilities at Carrington (I'm happy to be corrected as I haven’t been there in a while) and to an extent that takes the pre- and post- game atmosphere away.

The advent of professionalism has turned the game into more of a “spectator sport”, by which I mean that more people watch yet they would never consider joining a local Club or playing the game themselves.

There is a general tendency away from volunteering or joining Clubs and societies of any form. I volunteer with several charities (National Trust, Cancer Research UK, Stockport Plaza, RNLI and, until recently, the Multiple Sclerosis Society) and each and every one of them is struggling to get volunteers to help for even as little as collecting for only an hour a year! Quite why this is I know not, but it may be to do with the “instant gratification” culture in society generally and a lack of understanding that behind every event, no matter how small it might be, there has been an invisible group of people working very hard to get the show on the road,

If volunteering and/or Club memberships continue their decline then a lot of charities and Clubs will cease to function to the detriment of us all.

One thing that does surprise me is that amongst membership of this august and highly esteemed forum must be members of many different local rugby Clubs of all levels and ability and yet rarely does any Club come on here to promote their Club or its activities and special events. There are a few exceptions, of course, but in the main there is no local Club information. Even Sale FC rarely post under their own user ID and they have both historical and current relationships with Sale Sharks.

If Clubs don't promote themselves then how are the "unattached" to become aware of what local Clubs can offer or what events may be coming up? I know that many Clubs send out periodic newsletters by email telling their Members what is happening at their Club - but they are preaching to the already converted, how does that encourage potential new Members or casual attenders who obviously don’t get such newsletters?

My fellow Moderators and our highly regarded and respected Editor (I can do sycophancy and fake sincerity with the best of them) may disagree but I would look favourably upon “public service information” posts that weren’t blatant advertising.

I shall now get shot down by all and sundry but, hey ho, it’s Sunday and I’m off to toast some crumpets! (Sm72)



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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: PoyntonShark (IP Logged)
Date: 14 April, 2019 12:54

Broadstreet 16 v 17 Scunny

Finish 1st Midlands Premier. Promotion to the national leagues, let's hope we can put up more of a fight than last time.


I wonder if Mr Folau would be interested that Scunny's points for this season - 666



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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: DaveAitch (IP Logged)
Date: 14 April, 2019 18:26

Poynters, I presume that's a case of the devil being in the detail.

iBozz, thanks for the detailed reply. I pretty much agree with all you are saying. Some things such as there only being one pitch hadn't really come into my thinking. (As an aside, in Uni at Cardiff our playing fields were a few miles out of town. At that time, late 1960s, we had a coach for home games, never mind away games. There was no disappearing by anyone immediately the game had finished.) one would hope that fixture lists, as much as possible, would be organised with one side playing at home while the other were away, and vice versa.

My theory was, and maybe still is, that Sharks have player A who needs a run out at Sale FC so long time servent of the club player M is pushed into the 2nd team from which Player X is excluded and so doesn't get a game. X then joins another club, or more likely stops playing altogether. The next week A doesn't need a game so M is recalled, but the second team are now short of a full complement. As long as Sale FC have a first team doing reasonably well, I don't see Sharks being too bothered.

I did see a snippet a week or two ago the RFU and other unions were becoming concerned about the lack of numbers. I tried my best ten years or so ago to re-establish a 4th team at Caldy. Other than several individuals, the club itself weren't too bothered. Nor, of course, were the RFU. So long as there was enough money coming in for the prawn sandwiches the RFU had no need to be worried.

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: iBozz (IP Logged)
Date: 28 April, 2019 14:17

National 1: Saturday, 27th April 2019

Sale FC 5 - 24 Cambridge.

The final game of the season and Sale FC finish 11th of 16.

If I understand the rules correctly then relegated are Caldy, Esher and Loughborough Students and coming up are Hull Ionians, Rams and the winners of a play off between Chester and Canterbury. I do hope that it is Chester! I have nothing against Canterbury but Chester's chips are the best in the area followed closely by Macclesfield - one has to get one's priorities right! (Sm1)

I don't wish to sound like a sore loser and I know that Cambridge desperately needed a win to guarantee survival in this league, but there is something a little distasteful about seeing every single player run over to congratulate each player who gained a penalty. That gives the impression that they were deliberately aiming to gain penalties rather than playing the game and that doesn't seem to me to be in the overall spirit of rugby - or am I a grumpy old fart?

But, of course, having said that a win is a win and they needed it far more than did we and it showed in the relevant playing intensity.

And, of course, it was an absolutely foul day with driving rain and a strong, gusty and swirling wind.

Here's to a less nail biting season next term! smiling smiley



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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: Barend (IP Logged)
Date: 28 April, 2019 14:34

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I don't wish to sound like a sore loser and I know that Cambridge desperately needed a win to guarantee survival in this league, but there is something a little distasteful about seeing every single player run over to congratulate each player who gained a penalty. That gives the impression that they were deliberately aiming to gain penalties rather than playing the game and that doesn't seem to me to be in the overall spirit of rugby - or am I a grumpy old fart?

Maybe the latter, but that aspect of Cambridge yesterday was a little irritating. They were clearly up for it and thoroughly deserved their win. Sale were hammered to be fair and never looked like doing anything, apart from playing as if their suitcases were packed for their summer holidays.

Contrast the Cambridge reactions to e.g. winning a scrum from a held up maul, to that of Sale's when doing the same.

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: MikeGC (IP Logged)
Date: 28 April, 2019 15:08

Congratulations to our local rivals from Blackburn to win promotion into Premier North

Blackburn 17 - 7 Scarborough.

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: MikeGC (IP Logged)
Date: 09 June, 2019 16:19

Absolutely astonished to learn that the RFU have ignored their own rules and level transferred Kendal into North 1 East from N1W.
With travel subsidies cut and the notorious A66 winter weather, it’s going to be a difficult season for the Kendal travelling support and players

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: NorthernMaori (IP Logged)
Date: 10 June, 2019 08:51

That is unfortunate for the club, although not that surprising!

I thought the leagues at that level were still to be finalised

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: Flumpty (IP Logged)
Date: 10 June, 2019 09:28

I'm a lot less than impressed that we're going East, rather than up and down the M6.
There should have been several good local fixtures to keep the natives (& the bar sales !) happy, but sadly thats not going to be the case.

C'est la vie and all that and onwards to making the best job out of a rotten set of cards that have been dealt !

Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: DaveAitch (IP Logged)
Date: 10 June, 2019 09:52

To be fair, Mike, one can't expect the RFU to make do with cheese, instead of prawns, in the sandwiches. Cuts have to be made somewhere, just so long as it isn't the sandwiches.

I did find a good rundown of this coming season's Northern leagues. In time honoured fashion, I can't find it now to put a link to it. Heaven knows when things are finalised, but I think the fixtures are due to come out soon.

On a broader point, I'm not sure that leagues have really done the clubs, and rugby as a whole, a favour.

As regards the Sale game, I did hear that Sale might have had a points deduction if a player were sent off. I wonder if this was so, and whether the Cambridge team had this in mind. One wonders if demotion is such a bad thing (as a rule), cutting as it does travelling costs, quite significantly in some cases. On the other hand, however they got to where they are, Kendal have been landed with more travelling.

One also wonders if such as Sale FC and Wilmslow will have enough playing strength to run second teams throughout the next season. Even more so, one wonders if any clubs will decide enough is enough and give up completely. I fear it's troubling times for many clubs, and rugby in general, unless someone can come up with something to stop the current trend.

edit: just found the Northern Division list 2019-2020.



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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: DaveAitch (IP Logged)
Date: 10 June, 2019 10:15

I've just looked at that list in more detail. I can't seem to see Prenton or Chrisleton in any of the leagues. Perhaps both have opted out and intend to play in the Halbro Leagues (or whatever is the correct name) next season. Wallasey certainly did that a couple of years ago, having been reduced to running just one team. Prenton started last season with three teams, but both second and third teams folded. Twenty or so (less?) years ago Old Instonians and Old Rocks fused to form Prenton. A few years earlier each had been running about five teams. New Brighton are in level 8, the next to lowest league in Lancs/Cheshire. I think they were down to one team for some of the season just finished.


Edit: on looking further, I think Christleton dropped down into the Halbro league for last season.



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Re: How did your club get on this week, 2018/2019.
Posted by: JohnJ of HM (IP Logged)
Date: 13 June, 2019 21:06

edit: just found the Northern Division list 2019-2020.[/quote]

That list is a bit out of date now.

RFU league fixtures now on RFU site. [www.englandrugby.com]

ADM Lancashire leagues now on their site. [lancashirerfu.pitchero.com]

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