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Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: SydneyF1Fan (IP Logged)
Date: 15 November, 2019 06:29

I'll echo Stuart's thanks, Andrew. Great job for keeping this board going through thick and thin.

I don't post here often but do lurk and appreciate the effort you put into all of the posts and moderation. I play similar roles in other spheres and understand just how much time and effort goes into the work you do here.

Chin up and keep up the good work! Williams will survive, especially with the huge support you garner here!



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Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 15 November, 2019 08:39

Thanks guys. Every year I sit back and ask myself do I want to do this for another year and every year I find the motivation to continue.

2020 will be the same as I am really keen to see Williams improve and return to been a true midfield runner. Beyond that who knows but if I can see this I will be more than happy. I am not even contemplating anything else happening in 2020.

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 15 November, 2019 11:34

Although I stopped posting on this forum for a while, however I will soldier on and will support the team either way (or till I die, or till the team dissolves)

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: boro1986willliamsf1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15 November, 2019 13:23

I wont stop supporting Williams but going through a faze probably Williams are struggling of not getting excited over a race weekend and not watching races also because races are behind a pay wall



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Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: GroveF1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15 November, 2019 19:05

Good long interview from Claire about last 2 year's, where they are now and next year with changes they've implemented.

[www.theguardian.com]

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: boro1986willliamsf1 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 November, 2019 08:22

Quote:
GroveF1
Good long interview from Claire about last 2 year's, where they are now and next year with changes they've implemented.
[www.theguardian.com]

Let's hope its true fingers crossed



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WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A TEAM

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: Damon96 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 November, 2019 18:06

Quote:
boro1986willliamsf1
Quote:
GroveF1
Good long interview from Claire about last 2 year's, where they are now and next year with changes they've implemented.
[www.theguardian.com]

Let's hope its true fingers crossed

I really want it to be true but I feel we heard a lot of this near the end of 2018 and then 19 was a disaster. There have been low points before but normally weíve bounced back the following season. I wish we at least got into some Q2 fights before the end of the season, just to show things are turning round. Still come testing 2020, hope will come back smiling smiley

On a general F1 note, losing free to air live races has really hit interest. Iíve seen a few on Sky but jesus their coverage is awful. Even if we were doing ok and battling for 4th/5th as a sport, F1 isnít in a good place, a lot of the races are tedious.

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: IanSmithISA (IP Logged)
Date: 17 November, 2019 08:21

Good morning,

In truth F1 has almost always been boring but it because it has mainly been a minority interest it had limited coverage and limited races and this made it seem more interesting.

In the UK the Senna/Mansell or Senna/Prost years were shown on the BBC in highlight form only.

Although around this time the number of races was creeping up it didn't seem like there was F1 whenever you turned the TV on, Saturday qualifying was the last 10 minutes without any pre or post commentary, except for the British GP.

Without the internet and press interest what the drivers were really like was pretty much unknown, I seem to remember that Mansell was always the reason the car won but we only got it for a short press conference. :-)

Rolex sponsor F1 and they are generally perceived as a luxury watch brand yet they produce around 800,000 watches a year.

F1 needs to borrow some of their magic dust, to me this means less TV coverage of the races, qualifying and of the drivers and teams, make F1 appear special, even if it isn't.

Bye

Ian

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: dot_com (IP Logged)
Date: 17 November, 2019 13:32

Quote:
IanSmithISA
Good morning,
In truth F1 has almost always been boring but it because it has mainly been a minority interest it had limited coverage and limited races and this made it seem more interesting.

In the UK the Senna/Mansell or Senna/Prost years were shown on the BBC in highlight form only.

Although around this time the number of races was creeping up it didn't seem like there was F1 whenever you turned the TV on, Saturday qualifying was the last 10 minutes without any pre or post commentary, except for the British GP.

Without the internet and press interest what the drivers were really like was pretty much unknown, I seem to remember that Mansell was always the reason the car won but we only got it for a short press conference. :-)

Rolex sponsor F1 and they are generally perceived as a luxury watch brand yet they produce around 800,000 watches a year.

F1 needs to borrow some of their magic dust, to me this means less TV coverage of the races, qualifying and of the drivers and teams, make F1 appear special, even if it isn't.

Bye

Ian

I agree with so much of this. When I started watching in the 90ís, F1 seemed like a specialist sport and most people, even fans, would acknowledge that it was pretty boring. Not all the time, but a lot of the time. Then it seems like all these surveys went out and F1 seemed to be unsure what they wanted to be - people came back saying that they wanted more access, more races, more personal insights into the drivers, more graphics, just more more more, and thatís what they got. I personally donít get as excited about race weekends as I used to. This could be down to having too many races so not as much time to build up the excitement, or because we have so much information and insight into the drivers, making them seem more like normal people and less like super heroes, the ďdumbing downĒ of F1 in general, or maybe just because my team are so awful at the moment. Stupid things like DRS and Halo really donít help, either. I would love to see a shift back to fewer races and less saturation, fewer gimmicks, 10 points for a win etc but I think this is a one way street. I donít think we can ever get back to that. Shame. Or maybe Iím just one of those old guys now that likes to harp on the good old days.

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: dot_com (IP Logged)
Date: 17 November, 2019 13:35

I meant to add, I do really appreciate all you do for this forum Andrew. Itís really a great place for fellow supporters to cheer and commiserate, and put the world to rights. Thanks for all that you do - I hope you continue to find motivation to carry on :-)

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: Gunk (IP Logged)
Date: 17 November, 2019 16:46

Quote:
IanSmithISA

In the UK the Senna/Mansell or Senna/Prost years were shown on the BBC in highlight form only.

Ian

That is simply not true, Ian. The early 80s races were shown in full . . . I watched most of them. Mansellmania certainly increased interest from the time of his first Williams stint . . . viewing figures showed a dramatic leap.

Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: IanSmithISA (IP Logged)
Date: 18 November, 2019 07:09

Good morning

I definitely remember "Grand Prix" the one with The Chain as the theme tune being highlights, unless I have completely lost the plot. :-)

I also remember partial live coverage, the start and end of a race slowly drifting into full time coverage, so maybe I am just getting old.

Bye

Ian



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Re: Tough time for Williams supporters
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 18 November, 2019 11:29

One more race to go with this heap.

See what next season brings.

I have only watched a couple of races this season and those have been highlights not live,
and followed a few more on my lap top.
unless Williams are in the mix for points at least, i have no interest these days.

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