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Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
Date: 18 June, 2018 09:41

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Banstead Quin
Don’t need another mercenary with only his best interests at heart, I’d rather give Ibitoye game time and let him develop his game to more than just speed.
Also echo the point above about our inability to create space and deliver the final pass, as we saw with Yarde. But I also concede that Ashton isn’t as lazy as Yarde and will generate his own scoring opportunities.

There's a lot more to Ibitoye's game than speed. He's not even that quick for a winger!

His defence and decision making let him down. Hopefully he can sort them out as he'll be world class if he does.

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: QuinMR5 (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2018 16:05

I truly hate Ashton as a rugby player , as for the " splash " when scoring tries , pathetic, He still doesn't tackle, or go looking for the ball, unless someone else has done the hard work for him first.

I really don't see what all the hype is about, If he came to Quins I'd stop going to
games until he'd moved on for more money. But then again, he'll never get in an England
shirt again, so no need for him to come back to the Premiership.

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: Jammy Git (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2018 17:05

He doesn't go looking for the ball? What? The work he does off the ball in attack is pretty much the core reason why he's been such a success.

A try celebration upsetting you that much says more about you than him, as would refusing to go to matches simply because a high quality player is playing for us.



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semper crescis aut decrescis

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: blucherquin (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2018 19:51

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QuinMR5
I truly hate Ashton as a rugby player , as for the " splash " when scoring tries , pathetic, He still doesn't tackle, or go looking for the ball, unless someone else has done the hard work for him first.
I really don't see what all the hype is about, If he came to Quins I'd stop going to
games until he'd moved on for more money. But then again, he'll never get in an England
shirt again, so no need for him to come back to the Premiership.

Looking for the ball is the literal definition of what he does.

If you actually hate him then maybe not coming to Quins would be a bonus for all of us - thats just silly.

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2018 21:11

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QuinMR5
I truly hate Ashton as a rugby player , as for the " splash " when scoring tries , pathetic, He still doesn't tackle, or go looking for the ball, unless someone else has done the hard work for him first.
I really don't see what all the hype is about, If he came to Quins I'd stop going to
games until he'd moved on for more money. But then again, he'll never get in an England
shirt again, so no need for him to come back to the Premiership.

Knob (just testing). smiling smiley



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Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: Banstead Quin (IP Logged)
Date: 21 June, 2018 06:35

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RodneyRegis
Quote:
Banstead Quin
Don’t need another mercenary with only his best interests at heart, I’d rather give Ibitoye game time and let him develop his game to more than just speed.
Also echo the point above about our inability to create space and deliver the final pass, as we saw with Yarde. But I also concede that Ashton isn’t as lazy as Yarde and will generate his own scoring opportunities.

There's a lot more to Ibitoye's game than speed. He's not even that quick for a winger!

His defence and decision making let him down. Hopefully he can sort them out as he'll be world class if he does.

I think were agreeing Rodney. My comments say that he needs to develop the rest of his game. One worldie every 7 or 8 games doesnt make you a world beater. Give him game time and 1-1 coaching and hell do well. Maybe Ugo can do that for him?

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: plzd (IP Logged)
Date: 21 June, 2018 08:13

I would go and watch him play

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
Date: 21 June, 2018 14:56

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Banstead Quin
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RodneyRegis
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Banstead Quin
Don’t need another mercenary with only his best interests at heart, I’d rather give Ibitoye game time and let him develop his game to more than just speed.
Also echo the point above about our inability to create space and deliver the final pass, as we saw with Yarde. But I also concede that Ashton isn’t as lazy as Yarde and will generate his own scoring opportunities.

There's a lot more to Ibitoye's game than speed. He's not even that quick for a winger!

His defence and decision making let him down. Hopefully he can sort them out as he'll be world class if he does.

I think were agreeing Rodney. My comments say that he needs to develop the rest of his game. One worldie every 7 or 8 games doesnt make you a world beater. Give him game time and 1-1 coaching and hell do well. Maybe Ugo can do that for him?

"Give Ibitoye game time and let him develop his game to more than just speed." is pretty unequivocal - it means that currently his game is just speed.

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: mighty_quin (IP Logged)
Date: 21 June, 2018 23:05

Ashton would be 12-15 tries for us. I'd take him immediately if he was an option.

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: Cairns Family (IP Logged)
Date: 22 June, 2018 20:54

Ashton isn't such a @#$%& as everyone think he is. The ash splash really pissos my off as much as anyone. And he can't tackle,we he doesn't get into the England team. As a club player he',Dr a brilliant finisher. A @#$%& on the splash but I know is actually a good bloke. A seriously excellent winger

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: Man from LA (IP Logged)
Date: 22 June, 2018 22:17

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I think Ashton is an energy sapper. Don't like the man much.

What makes you say that out of interest? If he was, Im surprised he lasted so long at sarries.

Just an impression formed watching interviews with him and teammates and managers and that ashsplat and that Tuilangi hair pulling, nothing concrete...

IIRC didn't he shout 'miss it!' just as Nick Evans was taking a kick at goal at Allianz that caused handbags? Not as pathetic as pulling someone's hair but still stupid.

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: b_sting (IP Logged)
Date: 24 August, 2018 18:46

Thought I'd share this breakdown of Ashton's RFU case...just the latest in a series of stupid episodes in his career. Always remember that "miss it" Evans incident. Agree with the writer here, he's got off lightly for his latest... [url=http://rugbyandthelaw.com/2018/08/24/chris-ashton-ban-examined/][/url]

Re: Chris Ashton
Posted by: GerryK (IP Logged)
Date: 29 November, 2018 15:35

All I could tell you good folks, is that when Ashton left sarries we were not happy, as he brought a a great deal to the team and its performances over the years, in particular the number of tries he scored. He was brilliant at anticipating where the ball was likely to be and his work rate was second to none. He played on the wing for us but his success at fullback with Toulon can't be denied

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