WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS


Hooper: satisfied?
By P G Tips
September 24 2019

Bath host Worcester Warriors on Saturday hoping to open their account in the Premiership Rugby Cup. Tenth in the Premiership last year, Worcester have languished in the relegation zone or the Championship for the past twelve seasons, though last season were capable of some potent attacking play and made the semi finals of the Cup. Last week, fielding a comparatively strong team they walloped a youthful Leicester Tigers team 57-23. So will Saturday’s visitors prove to be Wuss or Warrior?

Fielding the likes of Kitchener and new signings from the Pro 14 Carey & Montgomery up front plus Humphreys, Mills, Beck and Shillcock behind was quite a statement of intent. The reward was an 8-try triumph, which places them at the top of the pool and offers a platform of confidence. Bath on the other hand are yet to register a victory after three defeats in the Premiership Sevens and last weekend’s loss at Sandy Park.

 

While Stuart Hooper has described Bath’s approach to this competition as similar to pre season friendlies of previous years, he also intimated, at a recent briefing for Season Ticket holders, of stronger selections for the home ties. Fans will hope to see the likes of Aled Brew and Semesa Rokodoguni (both of whom missed large chunks of the 2019 season through injury) getting a tilt at the try line. There are new forward signings of interest too- in particular tighthead Judge and lock/loose forward McNally. This would seem the ideal match for their introduction.

 

Hooper was measured in his assessment of last week’s 28-14 defeat, refusing to be downbeat despite shipping four tries, but not carried away with the positives either. That is partly a reflection of his public style but I suspect he believes the faults are fixable, while quietly satisfied with some of the attacking play. The midfield defence was certainly opened up too easily by set piece moves, although a more experienced backline would probably be less vulnerable. On the plus side Bath won the second half, taking the lion’s share of possession and outscrummaging their hosts on occasion. The two tries, from counter attack, were crisply executed and showed a welcome willingness to attack from deep.

 

In front of a supportive home crowd, that approach should bring both entertainment and a victory. The only fly in the ointment is the weather, which looks likely to be a wet morning with the rain abating just before kick off. Handling promises to be as greasy as in the humidity of Japan.

 

Bath may have enjoyed some bright moments last weekend, but Warriors are the club least depleted by World Cup calls (like Wasps, only 2 missing) and have their tails up. So- come 5 0’clock will Bath be winners or still waiting?

 

Possible Bath Squad:
Bath:
Catt, Batty, Judge, McNally, Stooke, Ellis, Bayliss, Mercer (Capt.). Green, Burns. Brew, Wright, Clark, Rokodoguni, Homer.

 

Replacements:Boyce, Dunn, Nixon, Ewels, Williams. Cook, Priestland, Willison.

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WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
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Date: 24/09/2019 08:01

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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2019 09:17

Very excited!!

I was encouraged watching on TV last week and with some more experience and strength coupled with the speed, enthusiasm and dynamism of the youth could be an exciting match with the right result!

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: Clarkey3k (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2019 12:04

I do think a home win v Worcester should not be in any doubt, I will be shocked if we lose. I'll be there...



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2019 13:21

Worcester's backs looked pretty sharp against Leicester, midfield need to sharpen up defence wise. No easy game this!



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2019 16:33

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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2019 06:43

Sickening for Miles Reid & for the club that after the very first match he is out for the entire season after apparently being in the best shape of his life & you would have thought resilient to such an injury. I wonder how it happened. I hope we arenít going to suffer such major injuries on a regular basis yet again.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2019 06:51

Wuss looking to put out a pretty strong side so won't be an easy runout

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: TG Kesmo (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2019 06:54

Quote:
Bath Hammer
Sickening for Miles Reid & for the club that after the very first match he is out for the entire season after apparently being in the best shape of his life & you would have thought resilient to such an injury. I wonder how it happened. I hope we arenít going to suffer such major injuries on a regular basis yet again.

Resilient to such an injury?? That is like saying if you as a pedestrian get hit by a bus you should be fit enough to withstand it and if you are injured it is your or your trainers fault. The laws of physics are such that if you are hit by a tackler at the wrong place at the wrong time there is nothing that can be done. It as gut wrenchingly unfortunate for the poor guy donít try and spin it into some sort of blame game.
If you are talking about non contact muscle tears and S&C then maybe you might have a point but in this case not.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2019 08:01

Apparently Ewels will play- first start as Club skipper on Saturday.

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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMS UP
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 11:02

Bath Rugby team to face Worcester Warriors

15. Tom Homer

14. Levi Davis

13. Max Clark

12. Max Wright

11. Aled Brew

10. Rhys Priestland

9. Will Chudley

1. Beno Obano

2. Ross Batty

3. Christian Judge

4. Josh McNally

5. Charlie Ewels (c)

6. Mike Williams

7. Josh Bayliss

8. Zach Mercer

Replacements

16. Tom Dunn

17. Lewis Boyce

18. Will Stuart

19. Elliott Stooke

20. Rhys Davies

21. Max Green

22. Freddie Burns

23. Tom de Glanville



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 11:08

Warriors: Pennell; Howe, Lawrence, Butler, Nanai; Weir, Hougaard; Black, Annett, Schonert, Kitchener, Fatialofa, Mama (C), Lewis, du Preez.

Replacements: Miller, Bower, Palframan, Clegg, Hill, Heaney, Shillcock, Hearle.



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 11:30

Officials for Saturday

Referee: Simon Harding
Assistant referees: George Selwood, Sara Cox
Timekeeper: Paul Box
Assessor: Stephen Leyshon



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 12:01

Decent team. Are Roko and Ellis injured?

Worcester throwing the kitchen sink at it - will be good test.



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: ken_jnr (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 12:28

Proper!

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 13:00

Quote:
TG Kesmo
Quote:
Bath Hammer
Sickening for Miles Reid & for the club that after the very first match he is out for the entire season after apparently being in the best shape of his life & you would have thought resilient to such an injury. I wonder how it happened. I hope we arenít going to suffer such major injuries on a regular basis yet again.

Resilient to such an injury?? That is like saying if you as a pedestrian get hit by a bus you should be fit enough to withstand it and if you are injured it is your or your trainers fault. The laws of physics are such that if

you are hit by a tackler at the wrong place at

the wrong time there is nothing that can be done. It as gut wrenchingly unfortunate for the poor guy donít try and spin it into some sort of blame game.
If you are talking about non contact muscle tears and S&C then maybe you might have a point but in this case not.

I certainly wasnít trying to spin that the injury was his fault. It was just a degree of surprise. I appreciate that thereís little that can prevent such an injury in some situations but to say that nothing can be done to mitigate such injuries is not entirely correct: Is it just bad luck that certain sportsmen are more susceptible to such injuries particularly later in their career?

ďThe following training tips can reduce the risk of an ACL injury:

Train and condition year round.

Practice proper landing technique after jumps.

When you pivot, crouch and bend at the knees and hips. This reduces stress on the ACL.

Strengthen your hamstring and quadriceps muscles. The hamstring muscle is at the back of the thigh; the quadriceps muscle is at the front. The muscles work together to bend or straighten the leg. Strengthening both muscles can better protect the leg against knee injuries.Ē

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: B4thB4ck (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 13:12

Competitive line ups. Just a thought after listening to Roberts RWC commentary this week, is he injured or is there some other clause allowing him to be away? His extensive experience would be useful to the young centres preparing for the season ahead?

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 13:19

Quote:
B4thB4ck
Competitive line ups. Just a thought after listening to Roberts RWC commentary this week, is he injured or is there some other clause allowing him to be away? His extensive experience would be useful to the young centres preparing for the season ahead?

It was an agreement between player and club and openly reported

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 13:21

Fair bit of bosh in our front 5 and coming off bench too. Should be decent early indicator of how our beefed up pack could do this season

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: B4thB4ck (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 14:00

Quote:
gaz59
Quote:
B4thB4ck
Competitive line ups. Just a thought after listening to Roberts RWC commentary this week, is he injured or is there some other clause allowing him to be away? His extensive experience would be useful to the young centres preparing for the season ahead?

It was an agreement between player and club and openly reported

OK thanks. I wonder if he is working with the Welsh team? That would be good for his fitness and handy for them to train against.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 15:31

Quote:
B4thB4ck
Quote:
gaz59
Quote:
B4thB4ck
Competitive line ups. Just a thought after listening to Roberts RWC commentary this week, is he injured or is there some other clause allowing him to be away? His extensive experience would be useful to the young centres preparing for the season ahead?

It was an agreement between player and club and openly reported

OK thanks. I wonder if he is working with the Welsh team? That would be good for his fitness and handy for them to train against.

Only heard him commentating and as a first stab at it, not a bad pundit though [like so many, to be fair] if only he could execute the game to the same standard he talks about we would have hell of a player on our books

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: TomReagan (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 15:33

Intimated that a financial agreement reached, as in he'd not get paid by Bath whilst away. He'll be playing in a later Prem cup match. Hooper said it makes sense to look after players, recognising that JR might go into media after finishing playing. I like that approach.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: B4thB4ck (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 16:13

I think my wife would approve of him being on the TV more as well (no offence taken...). I assumed he would follow his medical career.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: abendanon-anon-anon (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 17:52

Quote:
B4thB4ck
I think my wife would approve of him being on the TV more as well (no offence taken...). I assumed he would follow his medical career.

Or renting deck chairs by the Crescent smiling smiley

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 18:05

Quote:
gaz59
Only heard him commentating and as a first stab at it, not a bad pundit though [like so many, to be fair] if only he could execute the game to the same standard he talks about we would have hell of a player on our books

Actually I thought he was excellent, like a seasoned broadcaster.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: ballsout (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 19:11

Not particularly nice comments about us on BT from Baxter/Austin Healey.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 19:23

Quote:
ballsout
Not particularly nice comments about us on BT from Baxter/Austin Healey.

Iím not sure about that. He just said that they didnít learn much from playing the kids and is learning more from being against a stronger Tigers team. Seemed fair enough to me, Tigers are running right around them in the wide areas and Exe donít seem to be doing the learning that Baxter was hoping for.



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: ballsout (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 19:25

He said they're being properly tested this week, which is fair enough, at least so far.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 19:28

Yes, they sure are. Tigers have put out a decent team and itís testing these Braves. I would like to think that if this Exe team had played the team we are putting out tomorrow there would have been a few questions asked too.



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 20:25

It will be interesting to see how we get on against the Tigers next weekend. I realise itís only really a pre-season encounter but they do seem to have stepped up somewhat from last season.

Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS TEAMíS UP
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 20:32

Yes they looked sharp tonight.



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Re: WINNING OR WAITING? BATH V WORCESTER WARRIORS
Posted by: TG Kesmo (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2019 21:34

Quote:
Bath Hammer
Quote:
TG Kesmo
Quote:
Bath Hammer
Sickening for Miles Reid & for the club that after the very first match he is out for the entire season after apparently being in the best shape of his life & you would have thought resilient to such an injury. I wonder how it happened. I hope we arenít going to suffer such major injuries on a regular basis yet again.

Resilient to such an injury?? That is like saying if you as a pedestrian get hit by a bus you should be fit enough to withstand it and if you are injured it is your or your trainers fault. The laws of physics are such that if

you are hit by a tackler at the wrong place at

the wrong time there is nothing that can be done. It as gut wrenchingly unfortunate for the poor guy donít try and spin it into some sort of blame game.
If you are talking about non contact muscle tears and S&C then maybe you might have a point but in this case not.

I certainly wasnít trying to spin that the injury was his fault. It was just a degree of surprise. I appreciate that thereís little that can prevent such an injury in some situations but to say that nothing can be done to mitigate such injuries is not entirely correct: Is it just bad luck that certain sportsmen are more susceptible to such injuries particularly later in their career?

ďThe following training tips can reduce the risk of an ACL injury:

Train and condition year round.

Practice proper landing technique after jumps.

When you pivot, crouch and bend at the knees and hips. This reduces stress on the ACL.

Strengthen your hamstring and quadriceps muscles. The hamstring muscle is at the back of the thigh; the quadriceps muscle is at the front. The muscles work together to bend or straighten the leg. Strengthening both muscles can better protect the leg against knee injuries.Ē

That is all well and good if you are never going to tackle or be tackled. I am sure all this will have been extensively followed in training. Accept that you can read not thing into a single collision related injury and move on.

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