TEAM REPRESENTATIVES Ė Claire WILLIAMS
(Williams), Toto WOLFF (Mercedes), Mattia BINOTTO (Ferrari), Zak BROWN
(McLaren), Cyril ABITEBOUL (Renault).
Q: Mattia, Iíd like to take you back to the last
race to start with. Youíve no doubt studied the footage of the crash between
your two drivers. Whatís your verdict?
Mattia BINOTTO: HmmÖ whatís the verdict? I think there may be different
versions. If you listen to the drivers, they may have their own version. I
think at the end there is one true version, which is that they damaged the
interest of the Scuderia Ferrari, and by doing that, damaging themselves. We
discussed altogether, we looked again at the video. I think whatís always
important when that type of thing happens, there is always something which
is triggering it. And more important is to understand whatís triggering it.
It's the only way to make sure that in the future itís not happening again.
And thatís something that certainly we discussed Ė between us.
Q: Charles spoke yesterday, when he was summing up 2019, saying itís been a
weird season. How would you describe it?
MB: Should I clarify what he said? I donít know. WeirdÖ I would say it has
been an intense season. Many things happened. If I look from the team
perspective or the technical point of view, I think it has been a linear
season, somehow. If anythingís weird, I think itís we were expecting a
better performance after the winter testing, and I think that we never
really understood what happened from Barcelona to Australia. If anything,
those guys certainly made a jump ahead. I think that from our perspective,
then we had performance weaknesses in the car that we improved all through
the season, as I said, in a linear way Ė and I think the car in the second
half of the season was certainly better, compared to the first part. We are
still not the best car in the race. I think that other cars are still faster
in the race. We are not certainly the best car in cornering and at least we
know our weaknesses, working on it and from that respect it has been a bit
linear. Weird, I think, from Charlesí perspective, very first year for him
in Ferrari, a lot of emotions, a lot of things, he is the driver that has
started most of the time on pole position this season, which is a great
achievement. Two victories. Up and down, as well in his performance relative
to his team-mate, not always so consistent, if you look from the start to
the end. But I think it has been a season where an entire team, the drivers,
we learnt and Iím pretty sure it will make us even stronger in the future.
Q: Toto, you miss a race, look what happens! How difficult was it to watch
events at Interlagos from afar, and how did you stay in touch with what was
Toto WOLFF: Yeah, it was weird, because it was the first race that I missed
since Williams times Ė Barcelona 2012. I did it because thereís just so much
business going on at the moment and I had a Formula E weekend the following
weekend and obviously Abu Dhabi and things needed to be done. Normal office
work. It was also for me an experiment to see how I would take it. I know
the team is perfectly capable in doing that without me. There were voices
that it would actually be beneficial for me not distracting anybody around
the racetrack. So, what happened, would have happened with me there. I was
hoping that it would be a perfect weekend and that I could miss some of the
bad ones next year Ė but at the moment I am off that plan.
Q: Itís been a cracking end to the season with three teams battling for
wins. Does that make you nervous for next year? Do you expect it to be the
closest battle in the hybrid era?
TW: Yes, I think so. We have always defended the standpoint that by letting
the regulations alone, performance convergence would happen Ė at least
thereís a high probability that convergence happens rather than throwing the
dice and introducing something new and I think we have seen that. Itís fair
to say that there are three teams capable of winning races today and
probably winning championships if things are being put together. McLaren has
massively caught up, probably the steepest performance slope of all teams
and will be there or thereabouts, in my opinion. So, yeah, I see this very
much as being a much tougher season. I donít think we are going to see the
kind of 10 race wins or 12 race wins per team for next year any more Ė but
obviously we will be trying everything to optimise our weaknesses and
continue to perform well.
Q: Zak, the team has sealed fourth in the Constructorsí Championship. Given
where it was a year ago, in P6, and then P9 the year before that. How much
of an achievement is that?
Zak BROWN: I think itís been a big achievement, given where weíve been the
last couple of years. I think the teamís done an excellent job, both at the
factory and at the race track. Everyone is contributing. Renault has played
a big part in us getting more competitive again. Theyíve been a fantastic
partner. Drivers are doing a very good job, bringing the car home and in the
points often, so itís certainly been a pleasure racing this year, when I
look back to Abu Dhabi last year.
Q: If the past 12 months have been fruitful, can you just tell us a little
bit about the next 12 months Ė because youíve got a harder split programme
than most teams: preparing a Renault-powered 2020 car and then a
Mercedes-powered 2021 car.
ZB: Yeah, everyoneís going to be in the same boat, in the sense of the í21
is going to be such a change from 2020 that everyoneís going to be starting
from a clean sheet of paper Ė but weíre up for it. Itís one of the reasons
we made an early decision, to give ourselves as much time as possible. I
think Ď21ís going to be exciting for Formula 1 and for the fans because when
thereís a big change like that, someoneís going to get it right; someoneís
going to get it wrong and, as Toto said, tends to converge over time but Iím
excited for the í21 season Ė but also excited for í20, of course.
Q: Claire, if we could talk a little more about that 2020-2021 split from
Williamsí point of view. How difficult a juggling act is it when thereís
such a huge opportunity in 2021?
Claire WILLIAMS: Itís clearly not easy. I think weíve all talked about the
challenges that weíre all going to face next year. I think everyone in the
pit lane is going to have a challenge on their hands. I think it will be
slightly easier for the top three teams with bigger budgets. For us, it is a
real challenge back at the factory, trying to run those two programmes, for
next year, for í21 Ė but obviously weíve been trying to run this yearís
programme, when we havenít let development slide. Weíve got to continue to
bring upgrades to the car over the course of this season, which weíve been
doing, and really weíre looking at í19 and í20 as one long campaign. So, it
is difficult Ė but we wanted the í21 regulations to come in. We lobbied hard
for them, so weíve just go to deal with the problem head on and do the best
job that we can.
Q: News yesterday on the driver front. Just a word on Nicholas Latifi. Why
have you chosen him to partner George Russell next year?
CW: I think it was probably a fairly obvious choice. Weíre pleased that
weíre able to make an announcement. Itís been a long time coming and
probably an obvious choice for us. Nicholas has been with us now this year,
as our reserve driver. Heís done six FP1s for us and some test sessions.
Heíll run next week at the Abu Dhabi test, and heís just become a really
great part of the team. Heís got a great personality Ė and from a track
performance perspective, heís done a good job in the F2 campaign this year.
Heís obviously hoping to close out P2 this weekend, and I think heíll be
instrumental in driving the team forward. Heís got a very similar
personality to George, and George has proved how motivating for everybody in
the team, and I think Nicholas will fully mirror that next year.
Q: Cyril, Renault is involved in a very tight battle with Toro Rosso for
fifth place in the Constructorsí Championship. Just eight points the
difference. Given the nature of this circuit, how confident are you in your
Cyril ABITEBOUL: If you really ask me for this circuit, Iím very confident.
We were competitive last year. FP1 is not much to say because FP1 is very
particular here, given the conditions but no, I think that indeed Toro Rosso
with different circumstance that theyíve benefited, and that also managed to
make happen in the close fight but I think itís also fair to say that, on
average, we are a clear P5. The target was to be P4 so we have not reached
that target but average we deserve that P5. We didnít benefit of any
particular result that have helped in that respect. No podium when it could
have been possible again. Itís our own fault, so Iím not blaming anyone in
particular. But no, I think we will have a good fight tomorrow and Sunday,
but I believe our chancesÖ I want to believe our chances are high to finish
Q: Now, overall itís been a difficult season for you guys. What have you
learnt from the really tough moments Ė and when were they?
CA: Thereís been many tough moments. Thereís been good moments also. I think
itís important to take a bit of distance, so if you ask me, itís really to
manage, to learn about the resilience that you need in that sport. Sometimes
people believe how difficult it is as a sport, as a business also, given the
difficulty and the way that the world is changing. We are on a ramp up. Zak
has just mentioned a good trend that they have: P9, P6, P4. Itís exactly the
trend that we had also: P9, P6, P4. I think all of that is possible, but the
difficulty first is to maintain that P4 position now that McLaren has been
able to come back from where they were before and the main difficult will be
not to stay P5 or P4 because we should not be content with that, and Iím
sure Zak is not content with that Ė but also to bridge the gap with the top
teams. That will be the next difficulty and still the target for us. Itís a
target for 2021. Everything in our programme has been built around that
long-term target of 2021 because, in accordance to our strategy, thatís
really the first opportunity to make that happen. But before 2021, there is
í19, there is í20. And there is a short-term result and a short term
pressure that everyone is putting on all of us. And thatís fine. Again,
thatís part of the sport.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Andrew Benson Ė BBC Sport) Mattia, what guidelines or rules or
instructions have you given the drivers in terms of racing going forward
from this point to stop what happened in Brazil happening again, if indeed
they are allowed to race?
MB: There are no answers here; itís something we discussed internally. They
are both very good drivers, they know exactly what to do. I think it has
been somehow unfortunate what happened but it will not happen anymore.
Q: (Dieter Rencken Ė Racing Lines/Racefans.net) Zak, youíre obviously
delighted at finishing fourth in the championship, but if you look at it Red
Bull finished third with the engine you people rejected. How do you feel
about that? Is there any regret? Equally, Cyril, how do you feel about being
beaten by your engine customer, given the fact that you both have similar
TW: Such a nice fellow.
ZB: Look, I think, first of all, congratulations to Honda, itís great that
theyíre going to be staying in the sport. I think thatís positive for the
sport. I think youíve got to give credit to Helmut Marko for making a good
strategic decision to first put Honda into his B team and that works our
well, so he puts it into his A team and heís got two good lieutenants in
Christian and Franz running those teams and you know, theyíre winning races
now and good on them and good for the sport.
CA: Well, you know, we were beaten by our customer, OK, but when Iím not
beaten by my customer Iím beaten by McLaren, and McLaren is a great team.
McLaren has had its difficulty but I think maybe something that Zak has not
mentioned, but he could have mentioned, is the fact that sometimes you need
to change some stuff to really understand where youíre at and what needs to
be changed and what needs to be made stronger and I think the fact that when
they came to Renault we were a benchmark. Not a benchmark in the sense that
we were the best but at least McLaren knew what was the Renault engine
capable of doing with Red Bull at the time. I think that really put a light
on what needed to be changed in their organization and they have done that.
They have taken action, based on that information. I think we are doing the
same, in fairness, a bit later, but we are still doing the same. We know
what our engine is capable of doing. In my opinion it is the engine that
most progressed over the winter, right there, probably at the top in race
conditions. So thatís good, but obviously itís not enough. So we had to take
action and we have reacted with exactly what weíve done. We restructured the
aerodynamic department. We recruited someone who actually is no stranger to
probably the resurrection of McLaren Ė Pat Fry Ė and that will not stop
there. I think that what matters is being able to constantly assess where we
are strong and where we are weak. Thatís what McLaren has done and thatís
what also we have done and react, thatís also what we are doing.
Q: (Lawrence Edmonson Ė ESPN) A question for the whole panel: F1 is planning
to become carbon neutral by 2030 but when you consider that entire countries
have got a similar plan in place, is F1 being ambitious enough and is the
whole sport going to face a losing battle over the next 10 years?
CW: I think the very fact that F1 have come out and launched a proposal in
this area is the best starting block. I donít think we have talked about
what we do already do. I think there is a lot more that we could communicate
in order to demonstrate the very fact that our sport is probably a whole lot
more sustainable than the generic perception of it out there at the moment.
These new hybrid engines being the perfect example. We have never talked
about them being as relevant as there are. But I think that the sport does
need to become a whole lot more sustainable. Itís a wider conversation in
the rest of the world and itís a very relevant and important one at the
moment and this sport needs to be doing what it should be doing to tackle a
whole lot of issues that we havenít been tackling and there probably is an
enormous amount of low-hanging fruit that we can all contribute to as a
collective. I think as individual teams we have started down this pathway
many, many years ago, but again itís something that we donít necessarily
talk or shout about. At Williams we have a whole business division, about
350 people, that tackles or that takes some of those issues and uses battery
technology in order to address them and again we should probably be doing a
better job to talk about it. But I think the very fact that F1 have started
this pathway and it is only the very beginning, but I think a 10-year plan
is probably the right amount of time in order to tackle it.
TW: Yeah, what Claire said about the engines, we are having the most
efficient hybrid power units and we need to, I think, talk more about it.
This is a hybrid race series already and how we can see the future going in
the automotive world going, hybrid is definitely the next defining step over
the next few years. Having said that, Formula 1 was always the pinnacle of
motor racing in terms of the engineering and innovation and lots of the
things we do have found their way into road cars and continue to find their
way into road cars. A big part of that is efficiency of course. I think we
have a role to play in order to facilitate innovation at Formula 1 and at
the same time be part of that climate movement that is absolutely necessary.
We are all living in the same world and we see the air and the oceans
getting more polluted every day and I think the more we support the
movement, the more we tackle it with the small steps Ė banning plastic
bottles, like the one you have next to your chair, from our hospitality Ė
changing the way we fuel our dynos, not with diesel anymore but with
something more sustainable, we are going to better the world. Iíve read
something that I liked a lot, which was: Ďwhat difference does one plastic
bottle make to the world said 8 million peopleí, and this is the kind of
mindset we need to embrace.
MB: Nothing more left I would say, as they touch all the points. We are all
on the same page. It is certainly a key topic. It is a challenging
objective. I think as F1 we have to be, and we can be, an important platform
for developing in that respect, on sustainability. I think we have a lot
engineering background that we can use as well to somehow develop and
improve that situation. I think that is an overall global effort of all the
teams, F1, FIA, all together, but it is good. Great, at least, that we set
the objectives and Iím pretty sure that for the future of F1 that will be
key and important.
ZB: I think as everyone has said before me itís a very big topic, itís a
very important topic. I think itís a journey with a never-ending road. You
know, all of us are tackling it in different ways, in similar ways, not only
as a grand prix team but in our businesses. Itís great to see Formula 1 put
such importance on it and I think it will be something that many of us are
already doing today and will continue to do and improve upon because itís an
important topic for everybody.
CA: Yeah, not much to add, apart maybe from the fact that if Formula 1, or
cars in general, are seen as part of the problem, Formula 1 can also be part
of the solution. Iím not aware of any other sport that can contribute in any
shape or form to the solution and I think thatís really important to
mention. We created lots of expectation with that collective announcement,
so we will have to deliver against those expectations. One figure I would
mention. We are talking about this engine but to put things in perspective
the average increase in power of the F1 engine is 3% per year. If you put
that in perspective to UN target figures of CO2 emission in order to reach
the COP21 target would be 2.5%, so on the basis that we have stable fuel
consumption, it means that we have actually exceeded what the UN is
commanding from the world industry in general. I think itís a good
benchmark. Obviously it comes at a huge cost and lots of technology. It
canít be transferred to all cars on the planet but still I think it does
represent and element of an answer to the problem.
Q: (Jonathan McEvoy Ė Daily Mail) To Mattia Binotto. So far there hasnít
been a great deal light shed on the incident with your drivers at the last
race. There have been a lot of words but not much light. I was wondering
whether you fined them, whether you thought one driver was more to blame
than the other and a) Iíd like a straight answer to that and b) if I donít,
why do you bother showing up at these events?
MB: Is there one driver more to blame than the other? I think itís even not
important, because maybe that time it could have been maybe Seb, next time
maybe Charles. They are two drivers, they are fighting, they can both of
them make mistakes. I think that at the end whatís important is to make sure
that whoever he is, the one in Brazil, or the next time, itís not happening
again. And again, I donít think there is much to discuss. Thatís something
that is something that is in between our factory, between us, something we
discussed and Iím happy to keep it between us.
Q: (Phil Duncan Ė PA) Toto, Lewis in Brazil suggested that his future at
Mercedes would depend on your future at Mercedes. I just wondered if he has
had sought any assurances from you and if whether you have been able to
offer those to him? And to Mattia, if Lewis Hamilton is available to sign in
2021 as it stands, would you like to sign him for Ferrari?
TW: Lewis and I have grown close over the last seven years. We ended up in
Mercedes at the same time in 2013 and I think we have built up a lot of
trust. At the same time, the two of us are part of a wider organization
where everybody is playing in their relative field of competence. I think
for him to say that is nice. Iíd also like to know where he goes or if he
stays in the future. And we are having those discussions about the future
and I think it is very important between the two of us, like between many
others that have played an important role within that team. Can I shed more
light? No, for me it was important to finish the season in Abu Dhabi. There
are many things to be decided on and we will see over the winter.
MB: Lewis is certainly an outstanding driver, a fantastic driver. Knowing
that heís available in 2021 can make us only happy, but honestly itís too
early for any decision, so we are happy with the driverís weíve got at the
moment and I think certainly at one stage next season we will start
discussing and understanding what to do.
Q: (Joost Nederpelt Ė NU.NL) What was your favourite moment or anecdote of
CA: I guess my favourite moment has been qualifying in Montreal with Daniel
in P4, I think it was, something like that. That was, letís be honest,
unexpected, not totally deserved. I think Valtteri had a problem in
qualifying so I think it was one position better than what we would have had
but clearly finally the demonstration that what we were seeing Ė I was
personally also claiming since a while which was that the engine had made
huge steps Ė and was actually true. So itís not an anecdote, itís a story
and a very high moment of this season.
ZB: Well, it would have to be Brazil, wouldnít it, with it being our first
podium and clinching fourth in the championship so that and Lando qualifying
in Q3 in his first race in Australia and us coming out and being in Q3. You
only asked me for one, but I gave you two!
MB: Many moments. Obviously this season we have been celebrating our 90
years of Scuderia Ferrari so I would say at first the event where we
celebrated in Milan, Piazza del Duomo, with all our fans and tifosi. And in
the same week, letís say the first row on the grid in Monza.
TW: For me theÖ I donít want to talk about the best moment because the
overshadowing event was Nikiís death. That is kind of the big theme of the
season for us, so I was thinking whilst they were answering when I had a
moment which I felt like being the best and I didnít, of courseÖ we are very
grateful to win the championship but this one moment just overshadows
CW: Mine probably, as you would expect probably, didnít come on the circuit
this year but for me, the real highlight has been our pit stop crew. You
probably will track progressÖ unfortunately Red Bull have just pipped us to
the best pit stop and crew for the year but the way that our pit stop team
have worked this year has beenÖ gives a capsule of the resilience that our
team has shown throughout the entire year. They go out there each and every
race and fight for our drivers and for the rest of the team like theyíre
fighting for podium position and that for me has been a true highlight.
Q: (Beatrice Zamuner Ė Motorlat) Zak, how would you describe and assess your
driversí contribution to McLarenís 2019 improvement?
ZB: I give them a lot of credit, both of them. Early in the season our car
wasnít as competitive and I think itís the team, the drivers for bringing
the car home constantly, not really making any mistakes and then the carís
developed well over the course of the year and weíre able to give them a
faster race car but I think credit to both of them. Carlos has definitely
shined (sic) this year and I think Landoís been an excellent rookie that has
shown a lot of maturity for a very young driver.
Q: (Aaron Deckers Ė Racingnews365.nl) Toto, what was your impression of Nick
de Vries last weekend and in general of the Formula E; is it going to be
together the Formula One and Formule E, do you think?
TW: I really enjoyed the experience, I must say. Iíve never been to Saudi
Arabia before and launching our Mercedes Formula E journey was very special.
The crowds were phenomenal, seeing how this country is opening up Ė
something I didnít expect in that way. And the racing is very different to
Formula One, clearly you can say that. For me itís Super Mario Kart with
real drivers, but itís absolutely valid to give that a chance. And Nick has
already contributed a great deal to the teamís performance. Heís very mature
and the way heís Ė as a personality and as a racing driver Ė been able to
slot into the team with Stoffel is really nice to see. We have set our
ambitions or our expectations on a realistic target, which we have
overachieved and both of the drivers contributed to this happening.
Q: (Cezary Gutowski Ė Przeglad Sportowy) To the three engine manufacturers:
is engine power convergence really possible given whatís going on around the
Ferrari engine now after so many years, given you will have budget caps
since 2021 which I guess does not include the engine development?
TW: I think you will see, over the long-term [the] trend on engine
performance is that it will stabilise. I think we have seen outliers in
engine performance, we have seen very good races with Ferrari, we have seen
Renault doing a step up and then the same way that has stretched us so I
think, looking over many yearsí cycle, these gains will get smaller, like in
any mature industry, the marginal gains tend to decrease and I have no doubt
that this will happen.
CA: I think that the stability of regulations is showing that actual
performance is converging which is good for the sport. I continue to believe
that there are some breakthroughs to come that will come with new processes,
with new materials, so thatís interesting, so you should watch this space
and see what it still has to offer and going back to what I was mentioning
before, there is an awful lot of innovation that I wouldnítÖ itís a bit
unfortunate that we canít really talk about because of all the secrets, of
all the IP thatís involved and all the investments that are associated. Our
engineers keep on having lots of ideas and thatís great to see. Weíve
recruited a lot of young guys, coming from university. They are not
necessarily passionate about Formula 1 but I can tell you that they are
passionate about doing what they are doing in the field of the internal
combustion engine and power in general and thatís good and extremely
refreshing so I think itís good that Formula 1 keeps on having this field of
innovation for engines in general.
MB: Will convergence happen? I think we are all convinced on that. The
reason that we are all convinced is that the rules that we have all accepted
are defined. There will be lines of restriction and therefore we believe
that there will no longer be the necessity to develop as we are developing
today and there will even be some freezing opportunities, also the power
unit and the fact that we are starting freezing some of the components is
that believe that there is only a very marginal benefit at some stage in
developing and itís good for the sustainability to start freezing and
reducing the dyno activity so yes, we are all convinced that it will come to
a convergence. I think we are already converging and in the next period that
will happen, certainly.
Q: (Dieter Rencken Ė Racing Lines, Racefans.net) Given the uncertainty of
commitment of at least two teams to Formula One after 2020, should Formula
One actually actively go out now and try and attract new teams?
CW: Iím not sure I know a whole level of detail about two potential teams
leaving this sport but clearly we want a grid of 10 teams. That promotes
great racing and we need great racing to ensure that our fans keep tuning in
and watching us and clearly we want to be growing that audience as well so
whether itís down to F1 to actively go out and promote that or whether itís
down to those teams to make sure that they secure buyersÖ all I can say is
Williams certainly isnít one of those teams.
TW: All the numbers that are coming in Ė from audiences in the conventional
TV, digital space, sponsorship Ė are growing. I think this is a sport that
also with the spending cap coming in in 2021 is an area of growth. There
will be certain thresholds that will come into the rules about joining the
sport, concerning certain franchise value. Leaving the sport now would
certainly not be the right thing to do from a commercial perspective when
itís just about to turn into a new opportunity. Should we be looking out for
new teams? If there is interest in joining the grid with a solid foundation,
big brands why not have the discussion but I think we should all 10 of us be
proud of being part of the limited grid, we should be conscious about the
opportunity and the possibility that lies ahead and concentrate on making it
a good business for everybody.
MB: Not really much to add. I think the first objective should not look
around but try to retain what weíve got and only after, eventually.
ZB: I think it would be great to see another team in the sport. I think that
(indistinct) weíve got a new race market, that creates excitement and so as
long as itís a quality racing team I think it would just add excitement and
opportunity so itís not the teamsí responsibilities to be looking for the
next team to join but Formula 1, as Toto saidÖ televisionís up,
sponsorshipís up, fan appeal is up and therefore the more the sport can grow
CA: I entirely agree. I would just add something thatís not been mentioned
which is driver and driver development and access to Formula 1 for young
drivers. Thatís maybe an area where I think maybe one team ought to provided
that they are solid teams project with good backing, not just opportunistic
interest because itís possible that the business model will become better
but a good sporting project could be interesting because we all see that
sometimes even good drivers should make it to Formula One and we all
remember the time of teams like Minardi this type of team which were doing
an excellent job in facilitating access to Formula 1 for those kids. We have
a young driver programme and right now, even though weíve got great talents,
Iím not totally clear on how we will make it to Formula One. I think Toto
experienced the same difficulty without opening something that is still
TW: We will talk about it.
CA: But we sort it out now. So I think you can see where Iím going at. I
think itís important to have stability of top ten teams for us and for most
but think also about the dynamic of accessibility of Formula 1 to drivers.