Seventh Heaven


Strong debutant
By Wildwillie
February 22 2012

Leeds Carnegie travelled to Nottingham for a midweek rearranged fixture today. Despite fielding a much changed teanm and having to play at the Nottingham training ground the lads put on a good show before going down 24-11. Now we can relax and look forward to the play-offs as we are almost certainly going to end up 7th in the league.

We will then go into a play-off group with  Bedford, Pirates and Rotherham. We will also start the playoffs with no points. However if the play off games end up the same way that the equivalent league fixtures did then we will probably make the semi-finals along with Bedford. All this is, of course, pure speculation and is probably as far from reality as is possible.

Still we now know the size of the task ahead of us. The regular season has been a succession of dismal performances  (even if we got the right result) with only a sprinkling of games where the lads played to their potential. Now we have an opportunity to put that behind us and grasp the prize awaiting us in the play-offs. To that end I would put out another scratch side at London Welsh on Saturday and get as many key players fit/rested for the crucial games to come. i.e. the play-offs.

All season long we have talked about the importance of peaking at the right time. Certainly, in my opinion, we have the ability within the squad to defeat anyone in this division on our day. Too often in the regular season players have gone missing in games, made schoolboy errors or mismanaged situations with poor decision-making. If they have learnt from their mistakes then we will be in a better starting position. The other crumb of comfort that I take from the regular season is that we beat all three of our potential opponents at home and did Bedford down at Goldington Road. If we can avoid a thumping down at the Mennaye then the group is winnable.

Diccon Edwards must know by now which players can put in a decent performance in the big games. This may mean making some tough decisions when it comes to selection. That is what is needed though if we are to progress to the next stage.

Seventh Heaven
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Date: 22/02/2012 20:28

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Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: Mark_C (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2012 21:27

There was 100% effort from the team today, but it wasn't enough against a strong Nottingham side. I would maybe like us to get to the play-off semis, oe even the final, but no further. This is the least experienced Leeds side I have ever followed, and sadly it is nowhere near ready to become a credible Premiership side without significant strengthening in key areas. I'm sorry to say that if we did go up at the end of this season we would be entering the Premiership under false pretences, we're at least a season off being the finished article.

Miserati - and Proud to be!

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: Newtfish (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2012 21:45

Quite so. We don't seem to have timed our run very well. It was great to leave behind the total doom and gloom of the first few games, but having climbed to a reasonable position, we lost to Plymouth, Esher and now Nottingham, all games which we should have won if we had any serious pretentions (which in no way is meant to show lack of respect for those opposing teams).

I will be surprised if we get to the semis, astonished if we make the final and think it would be disastrous if we somehow fluked promotion as I think next season in the Prem would be even worse, if that's possible, than our last relegation season. I know, and have acknowledged before, that this could mean we are down here forever but without fresh money from outside I think that may be how it has to be.

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: Mark_C (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2012 22:47

I think you're right Newty. Without significant new investment this club will go no further. I have no problems with paying the loan back to the chairman, but we now need a rich benefactor who is prepared to write off a seven figure sum for us to kick on.

Miserati - and Proud to be!

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: exheadingley (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2012 22:56

I see three seasons in the championship before we are ready to progress

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2012 17:48

I really do hope Leeds don't send down just a scratCh team to Old Deer Park - you'll get far more satisfaction from scoring 4 tries, getting a try bonus point and then losing to an even better London Welsh side than for both sides to put out nothing sides with one winning 9-6 on penalty kicking.

After all, once the match is over the serious business begins of settling down in one of the best venues in the country (for scenery, Wharfedale or Otley perhaps match, or Clifton Lane with its unparalleled uninterrupted views of the Russian steppes with wind chill to match, but I'm fond of the Kew pagoda) to get the drinks in, have some good food and then watch Wales beat England in great style on one of several TVs. Much better than staying in Leeds and watching it at home. ODP welcomes all Yorkshiremen interested in watching great rugby provided they don't knock our elbows when we're drinking.

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2012 20:26

Yorkshiremen? (Sm145) Just as well I'm straight home after the match and keeping my eyes and ears closed for the 6N results.

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: farmertyke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2012 08:43

Mark and Newtfish.....you could level the same argument at any of the championship clubs who are in the play offs. I still think promotion is the best chance to move the club forward again.

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: Newtfish (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2012 08:55

I'm not sure you could Farmer, certainly as regards Bristol. They have gone through several difficult years, found some fresh backers and have been successful on the field with decent crowds.

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2012 17:19

Quote:
DanFW3
I really do hope Leeds don't send down just a scratCh team to Old Deer Park .

Probably the best side we can muster at the present time. If I was a betting man I would put my money on an Exiles + welsh win double tomorrow.

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2012 02:25

You'd have lost dammit! I don't know London Welsh managed to throw the game away in the second half, but oh boy! Credit to Leeds for the win, but more a case of one side losing it than the other winning it imho. Now if 1,000 of those drinkers had actually joined the crowd for the match, the atmosphere would have been tenser (though we - LWRFC - might still have lost). Both sides had strong left wings.

Re: Seventh Heaven
Posted by: Bobba (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2012 13:19

Not sure how you have worked out that The Exiles managed to "throw the game away". On the day Leeds were the better side.

As for the "drinkers", probably more than a 1000 could have boosted your vocal support considerably, however, take solice in the income generated by some good marketing of the event.I would have loved to see something on this scale at Headingley. With GH at the game, perhaps he will have taken note of some of the ideas London Welsh had for this occasion.

Post match, I had the pleasure of joining the "drinkers" in the Club Hose for the Engand v Wales match an a good time was had, despite the result.

Thanks to all at London Welsh for your hospitality.
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