Winning run comes to an end


By Haxbytyke
January 26 2014

Leeds Carnegie's winning run came to an end at soggy London Welsh in a game that was as disappointing, as the Headingley game had been exciting. 

The first half was a procession from scrum to scrum as the referee failed to control the niggle which was evident from the kick off. In the first minute Phil Nilsen and an opponent were having a 'love-in', and when London Welsh knocked on they somehow received a penalty which former Leeds star Gordon Ross converted to give the Exiles an early lead.

Both kickers missed shots at goal in the swirling wind, and Glyn Hughes missed the target with a couple of touch finders, but despite having a lot of territory Leeds had nothing to show for their eforts. The niggling nature continued without interference from the man in the middle, and when James Doherty had had enough of being the victim of high tackles, and having an arm rubbed in his face he threw a punch and saw yellow. It's worth pointing out that this was not the only altercation taking place at the time.,

The hosts thought they had increased their lead, but Mr Fox decided the player had been held up over the line, even though he arrived on the scene some considerable time after the event. As it was Leeds got to the break without conceding again, and at 0 - 3 there was everything to play for.

The start of the second half typified much of what has happened in the past. Leeds had the ball, lost it, got it back, dropped it, gave away a penalty at the scrum, and Ross doubled the home lead. It didn't last long. James Doherty sent an inch perfect kick into the corner, and when Leeds won a penalty, he quickly tapped it and shot across the whitewash. Hughes tagged on the extras, and Leeds had the lead.

After Ross had restored the lead came the biggest cheer of the afternoon from both sets of fans, (and probably the players). Mr. Fox was knocked over, and was unable to continue. He was replaced, as were a number of players on both sides. Another penalty extended the lead, before Leeds paid the ultimate price for letting a rugby ball bounce. A harmless cross field kick seemed to be heading for touch, but Josh Griffin saw it bounce cruelly for him, and Seb Stegman was on hand to collect and score close enough for Ross to convert and stretch the lead to 12 points. Glyn Hughes did pull 3 points back, and at the end Leeds were attacking and could have had a drop kick at goal in an effort to pick up a bonus point. They didn't, they ran the ball and dropped it, and that was that.

Not a great game at all, the pitch was heavy, no worse, but Leeds got bullied about a bit today by a very street wise London Welsh. Nothing wrong with that, it is the way Leeds need to play against the better sides. The hosts No6 played on, (and at times beyond), the edge, but he got away with it, and Leeds couldn't respond.

James Doherty was clearly the best of the backs, while up front big shifts from Phil Nilsen and Richard Beck, but the bottle of pop this week goes to Ben Harris who I thought was superb. He was continually dragged down by the opposing tighthead, who thought grabbing an elbow constituted binding. Sadly, so did the officials, but despite this Ben ran hard, and tackled hard. Well done Ben.

Finally thanks to the Welsh fans we met before and during the game for your hopitality. We didn't enjoy the result, but we had a good day out.

 

Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: TykesRugby.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 26/01/2014 22:52

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Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Carnegiette1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 06:07

Not a lot more to be said about the game, however a good time was had on the fun coach (the driver wouldn't let us call it a bus)

Thanks Hax for the quiz which had most of the lemonheads scratching their heads, but kept us quiet (even Mark) for a good couple of hours.

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: chappers (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 07:09

Fair assesment of a fairly even game, spoilt a bit by some lousy officials.
Good to meet you And your travelling band Martyn, sorry your lunch plans didn't quite work out, maybe we will meet again at the business end of the season.
Gareth

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Rocky's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 08:40

Excellent report Hex for a poor game mainly due to the man in the middle funny how both sets of fans were unhappy with his performance (is that consistency)

Must agree that the Welsh fans we sat with were there were a great bunch

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Mark_C (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 09:03

A good day out despite the result. I think that we were unfortunate not to come away with a losing bonus point, but once more we failed to play to the ref's weaknesses and the streetwise welsh gave a canny display. Once more, the imperious Gordon Ross came back to haunt us as I suspected he would. Sadly, a lack of 'enforcement' from the back row gave hime far too much space to thwart us once more with a masterclass from boot and hand.

Big thanks to London Welsh for their hospitality. It was also good to be met by a clu official who was apologetic regarding the ticket mix-ups. And a big round of applause to the Kassam groundstaff in providing a heavy but perfectly playable pitch. Given the amount of rain that had fallen and the state of the surrounding countryside they had indeed performed against the odds!

Miserati - and Proud to be!

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Zandra LaPoI (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 11:21

No mention of the final minutes of game time yet. The announcer stated there were two minutes left, we had the ball and were moving up the field. I am wondering if this announcement affected the boys as about a minute after the announcement Vickerman knocked on and the red blew up. Apparently there should have been at least 5 mins left.

Might have been a mix up when the ref was replaced, however could have influenced our drop goal decision.

Welsh were not that better than us and can be beaten.

Zandra YaPoI
YaPoI - Yorkshire and Proud of It

'proficiscor in una'

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: JohnnyP (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 11:36

Difficult first half into a strong wind from the open end of the stadium (unfortunately eased off second half) but we competed pretty well despite losing our 9 to the bin when we looked odds on for a score. Second half we were well in it at 12-10 but then the LW pack began to dominate and forced the field positions that squeezed out the penalties.

Thought the pack changes from both sides gave them the edge. They delivered quicker ball to their backs whereas ours was on the whole pretty slow. They attempted to throw it about a bit at the end but we coped quite easily with it. We put together some nice flowing attacks for a while in the second half in difficult conditions and really stretched them but could not get over the line. Game put to bed by a lucky bounce in the end.

Strange decision to sub a player when he had just scored I thought. Also would have liked to have seen Doherty a bit earlier. Josh has been very good recently but didn't have the happiest of games yesterday.

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Bittern (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 12:34

Quote:
Zandra LaPoI
No mention of the final minutes of game time yet. The announcer stated there were two minutes left, we had the ball and were moving up the field. I am wondering if this announcement affected the boys as about a minute after the announcement Vickerman knocked on and the red blew up. Apparently there should have been at least 5 mins left.

What are the time keeping rules anyway? I thought it was up to the referee? He stops and starts his wristwatch following each stoppage. And, if not, since when does the stadium announcer have access to the official time keeper?

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 12:47

Like JP, I,d have had Doc on earlier, but not instead of Griffin!

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 19:48

Goodness knows why Griffin was taken off - can't be blamed for a bad bounce... unlike a spill of a simple pass...

Thought Buzz showed his class even if he was a bit rusty.

That was one of the worst displays of reffing I've had the unfortunate pleasure to see. Is there such a thing as fox culling? If not, there should be.

Not the bestest match for your mother's first in best part of 15 years (minis' notwithstanding).

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: Carnegiette1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/01/2014 22:48

I am bemused and confused (ok easily done) by the 4 centres policy..... We have a winger (Jonah) covering full back and yesterday had a top winger in Doc on the bench - who came on for 5 minutes at the end.

The conditions were probably not made for Doc, and I don't know if he is recovering from a knock but I don't think this was the game to experiment with the back line, and have so many players out of position.

Psychologically I wish we could have beaten London Welsh, because if we do meet them in the playoffs, they have that edge.

And I am in no way blaming the officials for our loss, but it has to be said, they were awful.

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: oopnorth (IP Logged)
Date: 28/01/2014 08:57

I wondered if the presence in the LW back line of May and Parker, two physical ex internationals, influenced our back selections.

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: JohnnyP (IP Logged)
Date: 28/01/2014 23:45

Have to agree with Hax we were quite badly bullied at the breakdown. Welsh were pretty ruthless with their clear outs and also managed to hang round in the tackle area long enough to slow down our ball. Having seen the game again it could have been a different game altogether had their lock gone for a blatant tip tackle on JD early doors. Legs lifted above head and dropped from a height. Much worse than Warburtons in the WC. Also some pretty cheap off the ball stuff from their 6, 7, and 8. No wonder JD reacted as he did, he was targeted and got no protection from the officials. Surprised that Leeds didn't cite.

Re: Winning run comes to an end
Posted by: bspa2 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2014 15:43

In view of the result, it was surprising that the LW coach described us in Monday's Oxford Mail as the best team in the Championship. No doubt good for their morale but perhaps a grain of truth come the play-offs!

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