Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster


Very jubilant
By WIeld the Hax
February 21 2015

For the second time in two weeks, Yorkshire Carnegie made the short trip to the south of our beloved county. They made both trips on the back of bonus point victories the previous week, while both opponents had been on the wrong end of a thrashing at Worcester in their previous outing.

And, today, just as at Doncaster, Carnegie were made to look a very second best against a strong, and determined Rotherham Titans. Even though the Titans final try came in stoppage time, 6 tries to 3 doesn’t do the hosts justice. They did everything better and quicker than their visitors, and most of all took more advantage of the windy conditions. Even a Ryan Burrows hat trick of tries couldn’t add any comfort to a poor display, and it was a very jubilant Lee Blackett who spoke to us after the game.

After a good start for Carnegie, they took a scrum against the head, and stole a line out, things went downhill. Roth scored after 11 minutes when they shipped the ball at speed to cross in the corner, and they doubled the lead after a series of pick and go drives on the visitors’ line. Neither try was converted, but Yorkshire found a way back into the game when they turned down a vey kickable penalty to go for the corner. The reward came when a powerful drive took Ryan Burrows over the whitewash. Leeds had the wind at their backs, and another penalty in the same position saw them go for the corner again. This time however, they messed up and when they conceded a penalty Roth cleared their lines comfortably, and increased their lead with a penalty with the last kick of the first half.

Despite playing with the wind behind them the only highlight of what was a fairly even first half was a terrific mazy 40 yard run from Sam Egerton, but he was hauled down before any support could get to him. To go in 13 – 5 down left the visitors with an uphill task in the second half. Paul Hill came on as a replacement but it wasn’t long before he was off again, Sir losing patience at the persistent offending of the men in white.

From then on things went rapidly downhill. Roth used the wind to play for position, and did it very well. They dominated all over the park, and Carnegie had no answer as they became more disjointed than they have all season. As ever, replacements brought fresh legs, but not much improvement, and Roth took full control. As usual, when Leeds did have the ball they made silly errors, forward passes, knock-ons etc, and conceded penalties with increasing regularity.

Roth crossed the whitewash four times in the final period, but Leeds showed some fight, and skipper Ryan Burrows crossed twice more to complete a hat trick.

It is tradition on here to give a bottle of pop to the man of the match, so here goes. Alex Reider, Curtis Wilson, and Mark Tampin would all have been considered had they not been wearing a different coloured shirt. Goss and Georgiou worked tirelessly in the backs, while up front, Williams and Buzz kept the hosts on their toes. But Sam Egerton is taking the prize, another lively display, some great breaks, and one which makes me hope he will get a contract at Headingley. Well played Sam.

 

Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: TykesRugby.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 19:39

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Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 20:53

Well written about a totally inept display - thanks Haxby. Most of you know I'm a glass half full type - well I can tell you there wasn't enough to wet the bottom, yet alone half fill it.

For the first time ever I thought why do I bother.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Griz66 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 21:22

I've never known why we got rid of Curtis Wilson, massive mistake. He looked dangerous every time he was in possession.
The most influential player on the field was the Roth scrum half, his speed of delivery really got them on the front foot and with the 10 they made a formidable half back pairing, yes Egerton is an exceptional runner but he looks like a sevens player and Grimoldby had a howler I'm afraid.
Roth just looked more up for it.
That second half was more dire than a very dire thing indeed, we were tortured.
On a brighter note Chris G had a fine game.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 21:30

Roth scrum half was Dan White another ex Leeds player. For me, he didn't play as well as Egerton, but those around him played better than Sam's team mates did.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: JDH (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 21:31

The players must take responsibility for the way they perform and how they represent the club in a yorkshire derby.
Selection right or wrong, that team was more than capable of matching roth. There is not excuse in getting the basics wrong and being out fought for 80mins

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: JDH (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 21:41

The roth pack got them on the front foot not white. Wilson had space thats why he looked ok. Would you swap him for holmes, not in a million years. Would any of the ex leeds players today get in over our current lot, no.
But collectively they perform. Currently we dont. Thats the difference.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: kinghymie (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 22:27

Have to agree with JDH: the Carnegie players are a match for Rotherham in terms of ability, if not execution.

The difference was - as at Doncaster - the opposition wanted the win more than the Carnegie players. Their body language, especially in the second half was poor, to say the least.

Why this happens, I don't know. I'm not going to blame TMG: he's not dropping the ball/giving away penalties/etc. Sad to say, it's the motivation of many players that seems to be lacking.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 22:28

I wouldn't swap any body for either of our wingers to be honest, but I said at the time I thought we were wrong to let Reider go, and what I have seen since, makes me think I was right. Maybe he wouldn't be in the 15, but it's now a 22 man game, and he'd certainly be in my 22

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: JDH (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2015 22:49

He rolls out of the tackle well.

I think the whole squad and the coaches need to sit down AGAIN, and ask themselves what they want out of the season and why they dont fight as a group. Not playing to your potential when it really matters must really hurt them.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Carnegiette1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 08:15

Thanks Hax, a difficult one to read and relive.

I too wouldn't swap any of our players for the ones we let go, though agree with Hax that Rieder might be in my 22. Last week proved that.

There is something about the environment that is not right though. The penalty count against us was horrific. It is almost as if we want to play one way, and when that doesn't work we lose all ability to make the right decisions on the pitch.

Roth did the basics well and used the conditions. They were a unit and must have thought all their Christmases had come at once to find us so inept.

Painful

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: farmertyke (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 09:40

Thank you Radio Hax. If I was big Tommy McGee I would be feeling more than a bit miffed as clearly some of the players cannot be bothered to play under his leadership.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: JDH (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 11:20

I dont think it is a case of not wanting to play for tommy. The group just cannot collectively put a game together when the pressures on. Not sure why this is though

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Nik Wood (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 11:30

I remember looking at Josh Holmes stood on the wing mid way through the second half. His shirt was still Aerial white as he waited once again for a pass that never came.

Seems to me that the staff thought a forwards game was in order yesterday but that couldn't be further from the truth, as Roth showed.

With two of the best players in the team on the wings, it wouldn't hurt to give them the ball every now and again.

Lack discipline and desire = disappointment or is it depression?

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: JDH (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 12:02

I was talking to a roth fan throughout the game. He was saying roth would never be a feeder club for YC. Looking at their team it is us feeding them!

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: bspa2 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 13:07

Although Roth club might not be a feeder, youngsters will ultimately vote with their feet and follow the opportunities wherever they might be found.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Rocky (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 13:52

Sadly for Tommy I think that is that when it comes to his long term chance at getting the permanent role. It seems that the management are not backing him and In terms of performance we are lacking.

Fact it that this season is a write off, play offs are unlikely so we need to build for next year. It is time to rebuild, let's make the tough decisions in terms of coaching and playing staff then aim for promotion next year.

That however will be tough as one of the strongest teams in the league will be hurting next year and will have a point to prove and a budget exceeding ours.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 16:58

Spoke to Lee Blackett after the match and he said that Roth had been working all week on a change in tactics which they duly carried out, and that was to kick at all opportunities and he was obviously pleased with the outcome. They even benefitted in the first half when nominally playing against a swirling wind!

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 17:08

Has anyone else noted the parallels between our performances and those of the French International team? Lots of different players picked and you never know what team is going to turn up.

Allez Les Yorkshire Bleus

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 22/02/2015 17:17

You've nicked the first para of my preview Almo!

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: farmertyke (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2015 09:21

A thought on the teams endeavours.

As a friend who does not post pointed out the best player for us in the last 2 games has been the non playing professional Sam Egerton, and one presumes he is not being paid much either.

On a different note the ball handling skills of the Rabbitohs from Aus was wonderful to watch......and 8 years ago they got the wooden spoon in the NRL. J. Lo's influence last year equally produced exciting rugby. Perhaps Leeds should take note.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: John R (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2015 13:18

The South Yorkshire curse strikes again!

That's two beatings in this years Championship from both of them and Saturdays debacle was worst than at Castle Park two weekends ago.

How can we play well against Moseley, better against Nottingham and then follow them up with such dire performances as those witnessed by the faithful few (probably getting fewer?) who were at Castle Park and Clifton Lane?

Such is rugby.

However, the real competition was with the Cow Pie of Donny v the Meat pie at Rotherham.

While a big fan of Donny Cow Pie I give the award to the Rotherham Meat Pie this season, by a short slop of the gravy scoop!

Onwards and upwards.

Up Tommy's Yorkshire TYKES !

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2015 14:42

It was a good one wasn't it John. I tend to find Donnie's overrated and I thought Roth's would be hard placed to beat it. But it did - that gravy vat, I could dive into it plus bowls, not sachets, of mint sauce.

Pity our team dished up a performance that stuck in the gullet as it was hard to swallow.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2015 16:27

Both poor performances from us, but I thought Roth looked good on Saturday, far better than Donny. How much of that was down to our display, I don't know.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2015 19:34

Well they were certainly better than v Worcs. Haxby.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Time Trial (IP Logged)
Date: 23/02/2015 19:59

Soooo very disappointed in this performance. Just watched the highlights and YC looked every bit as lethargic and disorganised as I rembered from Saturday. Baffling. Perhaps they thought they were going to walk it and when Roth came out fighting they just couldn't find the extra will-power to fight back. The question is why?

Please sign Egerton (as Farmer Tyke says - best player on the field). Less convinced on Grimoldby - some pretty poor decision making. We were much better with Leonard back on the pitch. I also think the other replacements had a positive impact but it was too little too late. IMHO Nilson must start next week

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: farmertyke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2015 08:15

Gelbel .......absolutely Roth cow pie the winner......

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: Hornchurch (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2015 19:09

The chips at Rotheram were not very nice, unusually, they looked and tasted like they warmed up from the previous night.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2015 20:27

Pity they didn't show John R eating his Roth steak pie in the highlights rather than showing the play.

Re: Yorkshire – A Recipe For Disaster
Posted by: JDH (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2015 20:29

Our team looked like it was warmed up from the previous night too

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