Thesaracens.co.uk Poll 2010.


2009-2010
By T
May 22 2010

Once again we are (nearly) at the end of the season and it is your turn to vote for the players that have impressed you most. Please remember these are your awards to so feel free to elaborate on your answers anyway you see fit and don’t worry your names won’t be used so feel free to be as caustic as you like!

Please send all votes to only_one_T@hotmail.com by no later than 31st May (that’s the Monday after the premiership final)   

1. SARACENS PLAYER OF THE YEAR

Alex Goode strolled through to this award last season and is in with a shout again for the POTY after another consistently excellent season. Ernst Joubert is another one that’s been in the shake up for many of the end of season awards, very much Ernst ‘Who’ when we signed him he’s gone on to have an outstanding season at the base of the scrum, at the back of the lineout, crashing the ball up and just about everywhere.   Andy Saull has had another outstanding season, at the beginning of the season he cased havoc under the breakdown interpretation, later on in the season he’s still causing havoc around the breakdown but charging around paddock ball in hand, Richard Hill was never this quick.  Brad Barritt has been the anchor in the 12 shirt this season and while perhaps being pigeonholed as a bit of a limited player early on in the season has blossomed under the more expansive game showing excellent distribution and an excellent running game to go with his brick wall defence. Captain marvel Steve Borthwick has got to be in with a shout after skippering the side to an unbeaten start to the season. Glen Jackson is still purring away like a classic car, the one you might take out on a warm day.  Did Wikus Van Heerden do enough for you before he left for back home or has late season arrival of Jaques Burger caught your eye where his skills at tackling wilderbeast and Lions in Namibia have been put to good use in the GP since Christmas?!  But can anyone beat early favourite ‘Rugby Player’ extraordinaire Schalk Brits who has torn up the way that a Hooker is supposed to play?  Maybe your favourite isn’t mentioned here, what you waiting for vote for him?  


2. SARACENS YOUNG PLAYER OF THE YEAR
When opposition supporters criticise the South African influence at the club and point to the lack of English players in the squad the answer should always be, would they prefer us to have 15 English journeymen who are never going to represent their country or 6 English players who have the potential to be World class and represent their country for a decade or more?  Enough of the rant and lets applaud some of our younger players as this year we have both quality and quantity.  The English contingent is led by Goode, Saull and Barritt who get their nice words in the above paragraph, but lets not forget Adam Powell who seems to have been around for ages and won this award twice already in his short career, but is still only 23 and excelled since coming into the side in the past 8 games.  The forgotten man of recent weeks Noah Cato might also be in the shake up for this award on the back of his excellent start to the season where he ran rings around Bath and turned in a match winning performance both in attack and Defence against Northampton at Wembley.  Or how about two of our foreign youngsters Rhys Gill who has gone from surplus to requirements at Cardiff to first choice loose head at Saracens and a call up to the Wales squad.  Michael Tagicakibau has made the step up from the lower division, but my god can the boy tackle above his weight!   Of course this is about young players of the season and there are plenty of Storm regulars that have made the step up to the first team this season. Has Jamie George, Jake Sharpe, George Kruis, James short, Alex Brown, Jackson Wray or Owen Farrell caught your eye?

3. SARACENS OLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR:

Glen Jackson in his final season at the club before turning to the dark side is still capable of pulling the strings and opening up opposition defences.  Along side him in the greys dream team would surely come the 57 year old Justin Marshall who has rolled back the years with another season of sparkling performance, no one will forget the look of fear in his eyes as Brits passed the ball during the defeat of Harlequins where he realised he might have to go 40 metres to score! Rod Penny who while being the granddad of the wings probably would have gone 40 metres to score! In the engine room Hugh Vyvyan has been outstanding this season despite  missing a chunk of the season due to injury, and boy was he missed.  Did Carlos Neito do enough for you before his horrible injury at Wembley, or has Fabio made his mark? Will club men Rauluni & Sorrell who have acted as a wonderful players, and ambassador for Saracens as well as fatherly figures for the young players at the club take the award?  Who was your golden oldie?


4. GUINNESS PREMIERSHIP (non Sarries) PLAYER OF THE YEAR:

Some of the rugby has been terrible this year with people favouring a safety first approach and kicking penalties, Northampton were been a beacon of light during this dark period and it’s no surprise that Phil Dowson, Chris Ashton, Ben Foden and Tongauhia have been nominated in a lot of the end of season awards.   The Leicester pack and half backs have also excelled this year.  Ben Youngs and Toby Flood have revelled in the ball secured by the likes of Parling and Cole. Have Luke Watson and Oly Barkley done enough in Baths late surge up the table to get your vote.  Or maybe there is someone else who has been your star performers?

5. INTERNATIONAL PLAYER OF THE YEAR:

The Home nations have been dire this year.  England were like Saracens at the their very worst, only without the wins.  The Scots seemed to have improved, and found some brand new ways of losing at the same time.  The Welsh appear to be their own worst enemies still, 15 mirrors on the pitch is probably enough to secure victory against them.  And the creaking Irish oldies look like they need to rebuild again.  With the South Africans suffering a post Lions hangover surely the best international player will only come from France, New Zealand and Australia?

6. FAVOURITE SARACENS PLAYER: Best hair, best legs or even just the player you think will be best to have a post match pint with... who is your favourite player?


7. BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN OPPOSITION PLAYER AGAINST SARACENS: So was their one player that you wished had pulled a hamstring in the warm up?! Let me remind you of a few… Dan Cole single handedly destroyed our Scrum at the VR in the home game against Leicester while Toby Flood looked every inch an international as he controlled the game for 80 minutes kicking from hand and deadly when going for the posts. Miles Benjamin was a constant thorn in the side when we played against Worcester.  While Watson and Aberdabadbabdabon showed that 6 inches of mud was not enough to stop you playing an open running game if desired.  Fourie was everywhere offside and otherwise for Leeds against us a real pain in the backside as every good 7 should be.  But was their someone else that impressed?  

8. THE "ALBANESE" - WORST PERFORMANCE BY AN OPPOSITION PLAYER AGAINST SARACENS:  

A tail of the two Ryans for me but was there another player who was so dire you actually felt sorry for them?    Ryan Davis should have put Bath out of sight in the home game but it appears his radar was off and resembled more of the targeting system that you associate with the US Airforce bomber squadron.  Having conspired to miss the posts from a variety of field positions, he stepped up to chip an ‘open goal’ penalty over from bang in front of the posts only to pull the ball horribly wide. Bath wheeled on Oly Barkley with his leg in plaster to kick the goals for the second half.  Poor lad I actually felt sorry for him.  The other Ryan I’ve never felt sorry for. Step forward Mr Lamb.  Who after a high profile move from Gloucester to Irish had a stinker for Irish at Twickenham, waving through opposition players down the 10 channel and then proceeding to mislocate banjo and cows arse. He was hauled off after 60 minutes. Shame.  There were plenty to pick from Newcastle and even Wasps entire front row could easily be nominated for this award for their capitulation against at VR.  Do you remember another?      

9. THE MARTIN JOHNSON MEMORIAL LEAST FAVOURITE OPPOSITION PLAYER AWARD: 

With Harry Ellis injured or out of favour for most of the season and Delon Armitage transition from panto villain to acceptable international complete this award is wide open.  Who has had you getting angry by their actions whether that be starting trouble, being an annoying player to watch or maybe just some terrible facial hair?   

10. PLAYER YOU'D MOST LIKE TO JOIN SARRIES FOR NEXT SEASON

Is there anyone you’d like us to sign?  Where are we missing that special something and who can bring it to us?  NB they don’t have to be South African or English!     

PART II: CLUBS


1. BEST PERFORMANCE BY A SARACENS TEAM: Wasn’t it wonderful to be unbeaten at the start of the season.  Wasn’t it more wonderful to win so many late season games with open attacking rugby? But what in your opinion was the best performance of the season? Our first win for ages at Franklins Gardens?  Or first win against Leicester at Welford Road, destroying Newcastle and Quins in successive weeks or maybe the victory over the world champions at Wembley? Maybe another one sticks in the mind? 


2. WORST PERFORMANCE BY A SARACENS TEAM: Really bad performances have been few and far apart but what was the time that you walked out disappointed by the showing from the Men in black?  In a season of many highs there might not have been many bad performances but what was the weakest link?

3. FAVOURITE CLUB TO VISIT FOR AN AWAY GAME:
Lots of great clubs and great days out.  What away game did you enjoy this season.

 4. LEAST FAVOURITE CLUB TO VISIT FOR AN AWAY GAME: Which club do you agree that decorating takes presence over rugby?!

5. BEST OPPOSITION FANS:
Nicest bunch, pats on the back, gracious in victory as well as defeat

6. WORST OPPOSITION FANS:
There are a few of these around, whether that be via the message boards, some sour grapes or is it just an irrational hatred of another sides supporters

7. FAVOURITE OTHER GP TEAM (NON-SARACENS):
Im shocked anyone answers this but if youre into another team stick it here... even if it is the equivalent of cheating on a loved one

8. LEAST FAVOURITE TEAM:
<Insert irrational hatred here>


9. BEST BAR: Surely all bars are good but whats the best?!  That can go for pub near the ground also whats your recommended hostelry for fellow Saracens?

10. WORST BAR:
Huge queues, bottles only, running out of beer or maybe only Carling on tap... name and shame here folks.

11. BEST 'SOLIDS':
Who has the best grub?  Did Leeds food improve on their return to the top flight?  After 27 visits to Northampton you might have been able to taste all the food they have available so how was it? How did Wembley suit your tastebuds and were Quins caviar and blinis back to their best?!
 

12. WORST 'SOLIDS': The Millennium stadium won last year with six time winner VR pushed into second place.  But where was the worst food/ most expensive or generally rubbish grub this year?    

PART III: MISCELLANEOUS


1. BEST SARRIES RUGBY MOMENT OF THE SEASON:This isn’t just about winning the game, this can be the perfect try, a bone crunching tackle or just a perfect pint.  So whether you got excited by Burger making Varndell choke on his spleen, were ecstatic about the beauty of Andy Saull’s 2nd try at wembley, had a tear in the eye when Derick kicked the winning drop against South Africa or maybe just got a warm fuzzy feeling when Stuart Tanner winning £250k for kicking the ball onto the crossbar, tell me what was your favourite moment?   


2. WORST SARRIES RUGBY MOMENT OF THE SEASON: When was it for you?  A 50 metre drop goal attempt that spun along the floor?  A last minute penalty miss or just a general head in the hands moment.  What was you worst moment of the season?


3. FUNNIEST RUGBY MOMENT OF THE SEASON: Not much of an award just your chance to share an anecdote with the rest of us!


4. BEST REFEREE: So which ref did you hardly notice, someone who let the game run and generally got every thing right

 
5. WORST REFEREE:
Which ref had a stinker, maybe hed be better off wearing the shirt of the opposition?  Do you agree with the good Doc?


6. BEST MEDIA PERFORMANCE BY A RUGBY CELEBRITY OR BROADCASTER: Cant think of anyone worthy myself but if you can pop it here.  

7. WORST MEDIA PERFORMANCE BY A RUGBY CELEBRITY OR BROADCASTER: The fawning over a certain side, or an unfair kicking from a well know pundit, there were plenty of things that got up my nose but what had you seething?


8. THE MICHAEL GENTLEMAN (SAMUI MAN) CONTRIBUTION TO THESARACENS.COM MESSAGE BOARD:The blue ribbon event the one they all want… last years winner was Edward G but who will this years winner?  Someone who always offers insight, interest and good points to the board or just an argumentative bugger?!  

Thesaracens.co.uk Poll 2010.
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Re: Thesaracens.co.uk Poll 2010.
Posted by: saracens4life (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2010 12:42

Firstly, I have to say I am impressed by the thoroughness of this poll (seems more like an exam!!).

Sarries Player of the Year: Bloody tough one, I would probaby go with Joubert for his lineout work, the way he has led us in Borthers' absence, and his habit of scoring timely interception tries. Honourable mentions for Brits (of course), Hugh, Saully, Jacques Burger, Glenda, Brad and Goodey (the list could go on!).

Young Player: Andy Saull. Every time I watch him play or watch an interview with him I keep having to remind myself he's only 22 - same with Goodey. Both have matured very quickly and could become stalwarts of the club over the next decade. Slightly disappointed that Noah has dropped off the radar - I know his defence is very circumspect but he is our best attacking winger and he hasn't had any game time since we've strtaed our new expansive game. I know they're not very young, but I think it's worth mentioning how well Mike Tagicakibau, Mouritz, and Petrus have stepped up to Premiership standard - none have been at all lacking in physicality, and Petrus has really shored the scrum up. Sadly I can't go to the Storm games because of school commitments, but by all accounts the future is bright in that respect!

GOlden Oldie: Niles and Glenda - no coincidence that they have been reunited at halfback and we've started hitting top form. We will really miss Glenda I think. Honourable mentions for Justin and Moses for being so combative at the base,and also Hugh, who I think inspires those around him to step up.

GP Player of the Year: Soane 'What does contract mean?' Tonga'uiha, Ben Youngs and Dom Waldouck. Also think Nick Evans is worth a mention - sometimes he just looks a class apart from the rest of his side, glad we didn't have to play against him at Wembley!!

International Player: Will Genia. No contest. Though I have to say I really admired the way Harinordoquy played through the pain in both the semi and the final - he didn't deserve to be on the losing side.

Favourite Sarries players: Schalk, for his smile, and Hugh for his immense hard work over the years.

Best Individual Performance against us: Freddie Burns in the game at Kingsholm; Tonga'uiha in the LV semi and his try last week; Toby Flood and Scott Hamilton in the game at VR.

The Albanese Award: Carl Hayman and Jon Golding at VR; Tuilagi for that dropped ball; and Dylan Hartley - just because he's a @#$%&. Also I thought Quins were shocking when we played them at the Stoop.

Least Favourite Opposition Player: Dylan Hartley.

Favourite New Signing: Ben Alexander from the Brumbies, and Geordan Murphy/Scott Hamilton from Leicester (moving Goodey to 10).



Our Best Performance: Second Half against the Springboks; Andy Saull’s quickfire double against Quins; both wins at Franklins Gardens, especially the defence in the last 5 mins in the semi.

Our Worst Performance: Wasps away and Leicester at home.

Favourite Club to Visit: Northampton at Franklin’s Gardens: great setup, always a great atmosphere, and we’ve started winning!! Worcester’s always nice as well, not next year though!

Worst Place to Visit: Probably Adams Park.

Best Fans: I’ve always thought Northampton had the loudest, most passionate fans.

Worst Fans: Gloucester, in general, and the Leicester fans in the Crumbly stand a couple of weeks ago.

Favourite Other Club: I wouldn’t say I ‘like’ them, but I admire what Leeds have done in managing to stay up with limited resources.

Least Favourite: Northampton and Leicester, for obvious reasons.

Food: Wembley is ludicrously overpriced, Madjeski is pretty crap (and they have an annoying song). Best for me would again be Northampton.



Best Sarries Moment: the awesome scrum leading to the Brad Barritt try against SA; the 40m maul away at Quins; any of the three tries in the semi vs Northampton; Andy Saull’s try away at Bath, set up by that man Schalk Brits; Jacques Burger vs Tom Varndell or Mouritz Botha vs Jordan Turner-Hall.

Worst Moment: Elvis Seveali’i try against us at Madjeski; every scrum at the home games vs Tiggers.

Referees: I’m sure any Saints fans will agree Wayne Barnes had an excellent game last weekend! I quite liked Andrew Small at Welford Road as well. Worst referee we’ve had is Chris White.



Thanks for doing this poll T. Great way of recapping a great season. Now all we need is a win next Saturday.

Re: Thesaracens.co.uk Poll 2010.
Posted by: Old HobNob (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2010 22:44

1. SARACENS PLAYER OF THE YEAR
You only realized how good Hugh and Carlos were when they were injured, but Ernst Joubert was immense throughout and despite Brits rewriting the coaching manual my vote has to go to Ernst.

2. SARACENS YOUNG PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Alex Goode – sorry to be so predictable

3. SARACENS OLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR:
Glenda has showed in the last 2 months just what we will be missing. Hopefully he has been teaching Goodey so he can step-up

4. GUINNESS PREMIERSHIP (non Sarries) PLAYER OF THE YEAR:
I was really thrilled when I heard we had signed Tiny and he has been a wonderful player this season


6. FAVOURITE SARACENS PLAYER:
Del Boy has been my favourite ever since he put in a sparkling performance at my kids Junior school at the ripe old age of 18. Everything he has done since has only reinforced my admiration for him
7. BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN OPPOSITION PLAYER AGAINST SARACENS:
Has to be Freddie Burns MoM performance for Glaws. He somehow won that game for them almost on his own
9. THE MARTIN JOHNSON MEMORIAL LEAST FAVOURITE OPPOSITION PLAYER AWARD:
Only because he didn’t join us - Tiny
10. PLAYER YOU'D MOST LIKE TO JOIN SARRIES FOR NEXT SEASON
Tiny
PART II: CLUBS

1. BEST PERFORMANCE BY A SARACENS TEAM:
I know Wasps were woeful that day but our performance at home to totally own them made me feel happier than any other so far – hopefully Saturday will take the award for this one

2. WORST PERFORMANCE BY A SARACENS TEAM:
A tie here for the home performances against Glaws and Newport GD. Those 2 games really summed up everything that was going wrong in English/world rugby at the time

3. FAVOURITE CLUB TO VISIT FOR AN AWAY GAME:
Predictable I’m afraid but I love going to Franklins Gardens
4. LEAST FAVOURITE CLUB TO VISIT FOR AN AWAY GAME:
For snatching defeat from the jaws of victory 2 years running, horrible food and bars, boorish fans and a hugely annoying MC it has to be the Not Nots

5. BEST OPPOSITION FANS:
Saints every time although Worcester run them very close

6. WORST OPPOSITION FANS:
Glaws
7. FAVOURITE OTHER GP TEAM (NON-SARACENS):
Believe it or not – the Quins (I used to live up the road). No matter how much it isn’t working they have always tried to play entertaining rugby
8. LEAST FAVOURITE TEAM:
Tigers
9. BEST BAR:
I know VR is much maligned, but the V Bar in the South stand with Chiltern Ale at £3 pint, ample gathering/chatting room and lots of bar staff is the best I have visited in a sports stadium (some racecourses are better) for a good few years.
10. WORST BAR: Wembley stadium by a long shot – horribly expensive and no idea

11. BEST 'SOLIDS':
Has to be HQ. So much variety and no queues if you time your visit for the middle period of the first hald of the other game in the double header
12. WORST 'SOLIDS': Wembley (see above)
PART III: MISCELLANEOUS

1. BEST SARRIES RUGBY MOMENT OF THE SEASON:
End of the GP semi-final – pure bliss (hopefully the end of the game on Saturday will surpass this)


2. WORST SARRIES RUGBY MOMENT OF THE SEASON:
The whole of the Newport GD game when those with the glass half-full were trying to convince the whingers that we were deliberately trying to get just a losing bonus point out of the game

3. FUNNIEST RUGBY MOMENT OF THE SEASON: Not much of an award just your chance to share an anecdote with the rest of us!
Saints spending 2 minutes declining a DG opportunity and then suddenly discovering that wwhen they wanted it Myler had given up standing in the pocket


4. BEST REFEREE: So which ref did you hardly notice, someone who let the game run and generally got every thing right
Didn’t notice one that didn’t draw complaints from some quarters very close to me, but the Sky pundits backed Mr Barnes in the semi and reckoned he got just about everything right


5. WORST REFEREE: The ref at the Madjeski who missed 25 Not Not penalty offences and just one of ours

6. BEST MEDIA PERFORMANCE BY A RUGBY CELEBRITY OR BROADCASTER: A certain welsh broadcaster today talking very loudly about a BUCKING bronco as Cardiff scored the crucial try in Marseilles
7. WORST MEDIA PERFORMANCE BY A RUGBY CELEBRITY OR BROADCASTER: Jonno trying to find positives out of every dire performance

8. THE MICHAEL GENTLEMAN (SAMUI MAN) CONTRIBUTION TO THESARACENS.COM MESSAGE BOARD: Love him or hate him, Woodford Dave gets by far and away the most reaction from his posts and ensures entertainment for all

Re: Thesaracens.co.uk Poll 2010.
Posted by: Rupes (IP Logged)
Date: 24/05/2010 10:08

PLEASE NOTE - This is a "SEND REPLIES TO..." poll, please see email address at the top of the article.

Thanks T, all good nothing bad here.

Re: Thesaracens.co.uk Poll 2010.
Posted by: mk-fez (IP Logged)
Date: 31/05/2010 13:07

1. SARACENS PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Schalk Brits - goes without saying...

2. SARACENS YOUNG PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Alex Goode - what a prospect, excellent at picking holes thru' defence

3. SARACENS OLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Glen Jackson - stalwart

4. GUINNESS PREMIERSHIP (non Sarries) PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Ben Youngs (Tigers) - his quick ball hurt us badly in the GP Final

5. INTERNATIONAL PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Imanol Harinodoquy (Biarritz) - who plays rugby with a broken rib and nose?!

8. THE "ALBANESE" - WORST PERFORMANCE BY AN OPPOSITION PLAYER AGAINST SARACENS
You mean the opponent helping us win games? Shane Geraghty (Saints) for missing sitter-penalties, plus the one in the GP league game at FG that cost them

10. PLAYER YOU'D MOST LIKE TO JOIN SARRIES FOR NEXT SEASON
(With Glenda's departure, a decent fly-half would be nice)

PART II
1. BEST PERFORMANCE BY A SARACENS TEAM
GP semi final over Northampton

2. WORST PERFORMANCE BY A SARACENS TEAM
(the Up-and-Under period after Xmas and before Easter)

4. LEAST FAVOURITE CLUB TO VISIT FOR AN AWAY GAME
Wasps - terrible travel facilties, waiting over an hour to drive out of the car park

5. BEST OPPOSITION FANS
London Irish - the 'craic' and their friendly nature

6. WORST OPPOSITION FANS
Northampton - sadly met a few 'misery guts' at FG plus some of their postings (on Fish and this one) were nasty

9. BEST BAR
The Pub (on New Walk), Leicester - good banter with the home fans, loads of real ales to choose from
(followed closely by the Swan & Rushes, Leicester)

PART III
5. WORST REFEREE
David Rose

Re: Thesaracens.co.uk Poll 2010.
Posted by: sealos1979 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/06/2010 18:27

When do we see the results?

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