BRISTOL PREVIEW: PLEASE POST ALL MATCH RELATED COMMENTS HERE


By The Saracens
November 2 2022

After that incredible game on Sunday, the team face an even tougher assignment this weekend (and next). Although Bristol Bears have struggled a bit this season, a visit to Ashton Gate is never easy – especially when much of the squad has been summoned elsewhere. This week it’s more like trying to rustle up a team for Little Sodbury 3rds when the groundsman is hidden in the back row and the tea lady is playing scrum half. 

In addition to the England contingent, we loose the considerable talents of Theo McFarland (let’s face it he could probably take on The Bears on his own), Nick Tompkins (and boy did we miss him against Falcons), and Andy Christie along with Mawi, Pifeleti, De Haas, Wainwright and Bello. Thank goodness Marco Riccioni has turned down the chance to represent Italy this autumn as he recovers his fitness. He made a huge difference on Sunday.

The sick list gets ever longer with no signs of an early return for Segun or Isiekwe. Woolfie is still in a boot and targeting December as is Jamie. Return dates for Taylor, Morris, Harris, Adams-Hale, Davies and Crean seem to be covered by the Official Secrets Act. One tiny gleam of light is that Yoda has released Hugh Tizard and Max Malins. Andy Christie could also return if Scotland deem him surplus to requirements

Bears lost to Northampton Saints last weekend in a high scoring match which saw them score 4 tries. Bears will lose the not inconsiderable talents of A J MacGinty to the USA Eagles, Chris Vui to Samoa and Charles Piutau to Tonga. First choice front rowers Kyle Sinkler & Ellis Genge are already with England. Bears have a bit of a scrum half crisis with both Harry Randall and former Sarrie Tom Whitely injured.

So what sort of team will MMC put out? It seems like the backs pick themselves with Malins finally getting the chance to wear the 15 shirt (allegedly the reason he has opted to leave Sarries) allowing Daly to move to outside centre alongside Loz, Maitland and Lewington on the wings, and Goodey to 10 alongside Van Zyl. The front row looks like being Flynn, Dan (who really came of age last week) and Riccioni with Hunter Hill and Tizard at lock and Earl, Wray and Christie or Toby Knight in the back row. The bench will be very inexperienced of course but the young guys have to learn some time. Bears’ front row is also pretty inexperienced so if Marco can lead from the front and Theo Dan can build on last week, this could yet come out OK. Bears’ supporters are very negative about their team’s chances and are “expecting a hiding”. I think that’s going too far but any sort of win out of this one would be a result for our depleted squad.

Looks like the officials will also be on a learning curve: referee is Jack Makepeace (just his 14th premiership game) supported by Mike Hudson & Peter Allan with TMO Adam Leal. We’ll be making the trip down the M4 (we went to Bristol last year – our first game back in the big time – and really enjoyed it). Can we make it 8 from 8? Before last weekend I would have said no but now I think we might just do it.

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Date: 02/11/2022 18:26

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Posted by: EverOptimistic (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2022 10:01

So one depleted squad vs another. In the game of top trumps, I think you have the strongest cards. I love the way your playing at the moment so am looking forward to the game in spite of the expected hammering.

Bristol absentees:

Internationals: Ellis Genge, Kyle Sinkler,Chris Vui, A J McGinty

Injured: Aristot Benz-Salomon,,Jonathan Benz-Salomon, George Kloska, Jake Kerr, Steven Luatua, Sam Jeffries, Harry Randall, Semi Radradra, Siva Naulago, Gabriel Ibitoye, Toby Fricker., Will Capon, Joe Joyce, Charles Piutau

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Posted by: KingoftheHill (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2022 15:21

Quote:
EverOptimistic
So one depleted squad vs another. In the game of top trumps, I think you have the strongest cards. I love the way your playing at the moment so am looking forward to the game in spite of the expected hammering.
Bristol absentees:

Internationals: Ellis Genge, Kyle Sinkler,Chris Vui, A J McGinty

Injured: Aristot Benz-Salomon,,Jonathan Benz-Salomon, George Kloska, Jake Kerr, Steven Luatua, Sam Jeffries, Harry Randall, Semi Radradra, Siva Naulago, Gabriel Ibitoye, Toby Fricker., Will Capon, Joe Joyce, Charles Piutau

So that is our 1st XV unavailable . . . .

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Posted by: JMills (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2022 15:32

Really good preview. Only one small thing from a Bristol perspective, Whiteley isn't injured, just had a few poor games and has seemingly fallen down the pecking order.

I have seen that Christie and Wainwright haven't been selected by Scotland and Wales so they should become available.

Bristol are doing a firework display at 1645 ahead of kick off, I fear that may be the highlight of the night for us.

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Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2022 15:39

Thanks for the update JMills
Sorry to hear Tom hasn't had a great season - but then again I guess that's why we let him go!

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Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2022 15:40

Tompkins starts against the All Blacks and Theo starts for Samoa

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2022 18:30

Hopefully the rain holds off and we get a good contest. Aled Davies is one who has been missing for ages with no update, we really could do with him back now.
Completely forgotten Ibituyo had gone to Briss

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Posted by: myleftboot (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2022 21:05

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Darraghgirl
Thanks for the update JMills
Sorry to hear Tom hasn't had a great season - but then again I guess that's why we let him go!
I read somewhere Lam had lost faith in him at this level, hence moved for Will Porter

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Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 07:56

Apparently there's a firework display at 4.45 before kick-off so lets hope there's some breeze otherwise we'll be playing in fog!

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Posted by: JimG (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 11:21

Is the game on TV?

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Posted by: ComeOnSarries (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 11:58

Only on PRTV. But worth a fiver as decent coverage

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Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 12:02

Saracens Men team to play Bristol Bears:

1 Robin Hislop

2 Theo Dan

3 Marco Riccioni

4 Callum Hunter-Hill

5 Hugh Tizard

6 Andy Christie

7 Ben Earl (c)

8 Jackson Wray

9 Ivan van Zyl

10 Alex Goode

11 Sean Maitland

12 Alex Lozowski

13 Elliot Daly

14 Alex Lewington

15 Max Malins

Replacements:

16 Ethan Lewis

17 James Flynn

18 Alec Clarey

19 Andrew Kitchener

20 Toby Knight

21 Gareth Simpson

22 Josh Hallett

23 Tom Howe

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 12:23

Considering the injuries and absences that is one hell of a backline.

When did we sign Gareth Simpson? Must’ve completely missed that but it’s a tidy bit of business.

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Posted by: ComeOnSarries (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 12:23

That’s a pretty decent XV considering who isn’t available

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 12:32

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TommyKentish
Considering the injuries and absences that is one hell of a backline.
When did we sign Gareth Simpson? Must’ve completely missed that but it’s a tidy bit of business.

Signed earlier in the week on a two week deal apparently

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Posted by: wolfgangvonb77 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 12:49

Apparently he's like Wiggy, is there a chance we would keep him on?

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Posted by: Duncan96 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 13:07

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wolfgangvonb77
Apparently he's like Wiggy, is there a chance we would keep him on?

Looks like he is just signed until de Haas is back from the USA. With Davies out we presumably get an injury dispensation for the salary cap in that time but not after. If that’s right I think it answers your question in that we have no cap wriggle room to keep him

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Posted by: ninjafez (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 13:16

so whilst manu is out its Loz to man at 10 in case alex needs to come off... i cant see a academy or recognised Fly half on the bench

Ninjafez - supporting Sarries and cleaning their signs since 2006!

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Posted by: Roger G (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 13:29

Malins can play 10 can't he?

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Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 13:44

Bristol Bears team to face Saracens at Ashton Gate on Saturday (5pm KO):
15. Luke Morahan (104 apps), 14. Deago Bailey (3 apps), 13. Joe Jenkins (1 app), 12. Sam Bedlow (54 apps), 11. Gabriel Ibitoye (debut), 10. Callum Sheedy (139 apps), 9. Will Porter (1 app); 1. Yann Thomas (94 apps), 2. Bryan Byrne (36 apps), 3. Jay Tyack (1 app), 4. Ed Holmes (91 apps), 5. Joe Batley (23 apps), 6. Magnus Bradbury (6 apps), 7. Jake Heenan (c) (75 apps), 8. Fitz Harding (35 apps).

System players: 16. Harry Thacker (81 apps), 17. Jake Woolmore (115 apps), 18. Jonathan Benz-Salomon (8 apps), 19. John Hawkins (41 apps), 20. Dan Thomas (114 apps), 21. Andy Uren (141 apps), 22. Ioan Lloyd (64 apps), 23. Jack Bates (29 apps).

Unavailable: Ellis Genge, Kyle Sinckler, Max Lahiff, Will Capon, Chris Vui, Steven Luatua, Sam Jeffries, Sam Lewis, Harry Randall, Tom Whiteley, AJ MacGinty, Semi Radradra, Piers O’Conor, Siva Naulago, Toby Fricker, Charles Piutau.

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Posted by: Barty II (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 14:01

Don't need an academy fly half on the bench when there's three senior ones on the pitch!

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Posted by: siNBin (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 14:47

Wouldnt fancy going up against Unavailable XV either.....

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Posted by: nedrichards (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 15:15

In fact max was playing 10 when he did this... [www.youtube.com]

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Posted by: ninjafez (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 23:08

Quote:
Roger G
Malins can play 10 can't he?

Sorry my bad, that was pre Bristol days

Ninjafez - supporting Sarries and cleaning their signs since 2006!

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Posted by: Sarakene (IP Logged)
Date: 05/11/2022 09:47

Feel for Bris and agree with siNBin. I wouldn’t have fancied going against the “Unavailable XV” either.

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Posted by: siNBin (IP Logged)
Date: 05/11/2022 18:40

BBC Radio Bristol commentator is hilarious - along the lines of: "Assistant Referees have raised their white flags to confirm the kick - Bristol team raised theirs ages ago!"

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 05/11/2022 19:16

Wasn't pretty but a win's a win!

FT score of 10-25 takes us to 8 wins from 8!

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Posted by: OldMarovian (IP Logged)
Date: 05/11/2022 21:14

Quote:
Sarriebone
Wasn't pretty but a win's a win

+1

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Posted by: ComeOnSarries (IP Logged)
Date: 05/11/2022 21:22

I thought that was an excellent performance by the team in front of a large Ashton Gate crowd. The front row all excelled at scrum time and whilst the weather meant that running rugby was at a premium we certainly showed the greater cutting edge. Malins again showed that he will be a big loss next season.
With Gloucester losing yesterday both Sale and Gloucester have lost twice and we have a decent points gap at the top.
Really hadn’t expected us to do so well the last two weeks with so many away but the likes of Theo Dan have shown great commitment and not a little skill.

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Posted by: Static (IP Logged)
Date: 06/11/2022 00:05

Wasn't sure about Ben being Captain last week. Been really impressed how he has handled it and driven the team. Kept his performance very high and almost seems more disciplined too. Thought I had to note that.

Theo Dan another huge game. Looks made for playinga at this level. I fear it won't be long before an international coach notices him too.

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Posted by: Barty II (IP Logged)
Date: 06/11/2022 09:44

Theo Dan has England youth caps but his grandad is Romanian, played over there, and Theo credits him with his love for rugby.

Part of me would actually like him to see what he could do for Romanian rugby and declare for them right now!

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Posted by: AP (IP Logged)
Date: 06/11/2022 11:18

Not happy bunnies on the Bristol board right now.

Successful hills are here to stay
Everything must be this way
Gentle streets where people play
Welcome to the Soft Parade

🌻🌻🌻

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Posted by: OldMarovian (IP Logged)
Date: 07/11/2022 20:19

We really miss Isiekwe IMO. Tizzard has been incredibly underwhelming.
He's certainly got potential but I've yet to see a game close to the sort of performances he put in for Quins.
Really impressed and agree with all the comments about Theo Dan. Given how dynamic Samson Adejimi was V Saints the future seems bright at Hooker.

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 07/11/2022 20:56

Isiekwe is a different kind of player and of course we miss someone of his quality.
Tizzard still new to us and much more in the George Kruis mould. I’m happy with him so far.

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Posted by: samgibbo (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2022 07:19

Agree about tizzard sadly but I’m sure he’ll grow into a good addition given time. So far he’s looked slow, slipped off tackles and has often given away territory around the fringes, including at least one instance that led to a try being conceded on our own line with little resistance

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Posted by: OldMarovian (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2022 07:38

The Bard I think that's the interesting thing about a discussion board, how we can see the same thing so differently.
Kruis, as well as our resident lineout guru, was mainly about his massive engine and workrate mostly in the unseen stuff for me. Hitting rucks, harassing the scrum-half on box-kicks, first back up on their feet to take guard or a position in defence, etc. Very Hill-ian in that regard. For me that's Isiekwe to a tee. He doesn't do the flashy stuff but his workrate is off the scale and it allows others the freedom to do that other stuff.
Tizzard isn't that player IMO. He has good workrate but he carries much more and (at Quins) we saw a fair bit of distribution and offloading. Things which we see less of from Isiekwe.
It takes time to adjust at a new club and he's 100% a quality prospect I think I just expected him to step up a bit quicker given how he had played at Quins is very much in keeping with how we seem to want to play at Sarries this season.

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Posted by: JO'G (IP Logged)
Date: 25/11/2022 17:05

Quote:
JMills
Really good preview. Only one small thing from a Bristol perspective, Whiteley isn't injured, just had a few poor games and has seemingly fallen down the pecking order.

Not only fallen down the pecking order but still the man Google link to a request about Saracens Fixtures

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