OIRISH PREVIEW: please post all match-related comments here


By The Saracens
April 20 2023

And so we reach the last home game of the regular season, a game heavily marketed by the club as “Family Fun Day” and “Local Derby”. Of course Sarries already have a home semi in the bag although 3 points are still required to be certain of finishing in top spot (and in theory at least an easier semi-final). Irish on the other hand still have it all to do but know that if they win their last 2 games they are into the play-offs. Irish have been something of a bogey side for Saracens in recent times. They won the reverse fixture just before Christmas after a pretty abject Saracen’s performance, and last season beat us at the Community Stadium and conjured up that remarkable 34 all draw at StoneX with 14 men. They also thumped us in the Premiership Cup both this season and last. In fact the only success in recent times was a win in the Challenge Cup last season. Irish haven’t played a meaningful match since 25th March when they beat Saints at home. They’ve had plenty of time to rest their squad and prepare for this one.

Irish have some talent in their ranks especially in their backs: Henry Arundel, Ollie Hassell-Collins, Paddy Jackson, Ben Loader, Rory Jennings, Benhard Janse Van Rensburg to name a few although unfortunately Sarries’ recruit Tom Parton still appears to be on the injured list. In the forwards there is “only” the likes of  Augustin Creevy, Api Ratuniyarawa, So’otala Fa’aso’o (is there a rugby player with more apostrophies) and of course Tom Pearson to worry about although it appears there will be no “hat-trick” of red cards for Adam Coleman as he is apparently injured.

So what will Smally do? He needs a maximum of 3 points from this one to secure top spot. How much are we bothered about finishing first with the home semi already in the bag? In theory top place should provide a slightly easier route to the final but to be the best, you have to beat the best. A win against Irish could well turn out to be a dress-rehearsal for the semi final. So do we stick with the youngsters who did amazingly well last week? Or bring some of the other guys back? I suspect a mix – maybe the likes of Earl and Goode will get the week off but some of the others will be back: maybe Loz & Maitland, although we need to conserve our slender back-row resources. Manu has probably done enough to get an encore and maybe a last hurrah for Ruben? Probably a very strong bench though just in case. No Duncan of course, but will we see Daly back? Next week everyone gets a break and I rather think we might take a pretty much full-strength side to Bath. We don’t want everyone going off the boil – we know we don’t play so well after a break. Also winning is a habit – a habit we’ve lost a bit recently and it would be good to end the (regular) home season with a win.

The referee is Adam Leal assisted by Andrew Jackson and John Meredith. Weather forecast is sunshine and showers (oh joy!) welcome to the summer of 23!

OIRISH PREVIEW: please post all match-related comments here
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Date: 20/04/2023 13:36

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 20/04/2023 19:08

We have pictures of Owen and Maro in the publicity stuff this week, so maybe we are going full noise.
I think Coleman had his hat-trick of reds anyway, although one was over turned

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:08

Saracens Men team to play London Irish:

1 Mako Vunipola
2 Theo Dan
3 Marco Riccioni
4 Maro Itoje
5 Callum Hunter-Hill
6 Nick Isiekwe
7 Ben Earl
8 Jackson Wray
9 Ivan van Zyl
10 Owen Farrell (c)
11 Sean Maitland
12 Nick Tompkins
13 Alex Lozowski
14 Max Malins
15 Alex Goode

Replacements:

16 Ethan Lewis
17 Eroni Mawi
18 Christian Judge
19 Hugh Tizard
20 Toby Knight
21 Ruben de Haas
22 Olly Hartley
23 Rotimi Segun

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Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:08

SNAP! Sarribone(Sm126)

Saracens Men team to play London Irish:

1 Mako Vunipola

2 Theo Dan

3 Marco Riccioni

4 Maro Itoje

5 Callum Hunter-Hill

6 Nick Isiekwe

7 Ben Earl

8 Jackson Wray

9 Ivan van Zyl

10 Owen Farrell (c)

11 Sean Maitland

12 Nick Tompkins

13 Alex Lozowski

14 Max Malins

15 Alex Goode

Replacements:

16 Ethan Lewis

17 Eroni Mawi

18 Christian Judge

19 Hugh Tizard

20 Toby Knight

21 Ruben de Haas

22 Olly Hartley

23 Rotimi Segun



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Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:11

Good strong team but really hope they wrap Ben and the rest of the back row in cotton wool

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:12

Strong squad, I’ll be praying that everyone but especially the back row survives intact. I wonder if Jamie is carrying a knock after the La Rochelle match, he was down for a while in the first half. He deserves a rest though with the minutes he’s played recently. Chance for a few young lads to stake a claim for the 23, looking forward to Sunday!

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Posted by: OldMarovian (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:13

Looks excellent. A little bit of rotation but pretty much a full strength XV?
Great to see Dan starting and CH-H backed at lock. Nice looking bench too. Looking forward to many of them coming on and making an impact; Segun and Hartley in particular.

Really pleased that McCall and Co went with this team and the intent to secure top spot in a home game. COYS (Sm128)

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Posted by: Surbiton Sarries (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:16

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:16

Quote:
tpr's headmistress
SNAP! Sarribone(Sm126)
Split second in it grinning smiley

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:17

London Irish

15 Ben Loader
14 Lucio Cinti
13 Benhard van Rensburg
12 Rory Jennings
11 Ollie Hassell-Collins
10 Paddy Jackson
9 Ben White

1 Danilo Fischetti
2 Agustin Creevy
3 Oliver Hoskins
4 Api Ratuniyarawa
5 Rob Simmons
6 Matt Rogerson (c)
7 Tom Pearson
8 So’otala Fa’aso’o

Replacements

16 Mike Willemse
17 Tarek Haffar
18 Lovejoy Chawatama
19 Chunya Munga
20 Juan Martin Gonzalez
21 Chandler Cunningham-South
22 Hugh O’Sullivan
23 Henry Arundell

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Posted by: OldMarovian (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 12:17

Irish:

15 Ben Loader
14 Lucio Cinti
13 Benhard van Rensburg
12 Rory Jennings
11 Ollie Hassell-Collins
10 Paddy Jackson
9 Ben White
1 Danilo Fischetti
2 Agustin Creevy
3 Oliver Hoskins
4 Api Ratuniyarawa
5 Rob Simmons
6 Matt Rogerson (c)
7 Tom Pearson
8 So’otala Fa’aso’o

Bench:
16 Mike Willemse
17 Tarek Haffar
18 Lovejoy Chawatama
19 Chunya Munga
20 Juan Martin Gonzalez
21 Chandler Cunningham-South
22 Hugh O’Sullivan
23 Henry Arundell

A very strong looking team with most of the usual suspects we've struggled with a bit in the past. Bench looks very tasty. Should be a cracking game.

*snap* again Sarriebone smiling smiley

We'll have to be very sharp around White. He was excellent for them last time and he's great around the fringes.



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Posted by: Duncan96 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/04/2023 14:19

Do we read into this that Jamie George has a knock? Toby Knight is “needs must” but a welcome opportunity all the same. Has Roti edged ahead of Alex L?

Olly Hartley gets his chance due to Dunc’s card as expected.

As an aside my mum used to go mad if anyone called me Dunc as a kid. He’s not a @?!!&y biscuit” she would say.

But I digress

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Posted by: nicsue (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2023 16:32

I hope no Sarriebones get snapped.............

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2023 16:36

Quote:
nicsue
I hope no Sarriebones get snapped.............
So do I grinning smiley

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2023 20:12

So with Sale not getting a try bonus I think we need 2pts to finish top

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Posted by: AP (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 08:47

Quote:
Sarriebone
So with Sale not getting a try bonus I think we need 2pts to finish top

And we shouldn't count on getting them at Bath. They seem to be finishing the season strongly.

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 13:03

𝗧𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗚𝗘.
Ben Harris replaces Rotimi Segun on the bench.

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Posted by: Surbiton Sarries (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 15:00

No injuries, no cards, please

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 15:55

Hard work so far. LI looking good, Sarries starting to get into the match. Really can't afford these slow starts anymore

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 17:09

Really good second half performance. Enjoyed that

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Posted by: PhillFez (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 17:15

I dare say the full team will be looking forward to the home game against Sinners but must focus on a resurgent Bath first.

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Posted by: JimG (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 17:39

How Ben Earl didn’t get MoM is a mystery.

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Posted by: ComeOnSarries (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 17:54

First 20 minutes was dire from a Sarries perspective. Skill errors and penalties giving Irish good field position and a 10 - 0 lead. Finally cranked into life and were a touch fortunate to go into half time 3 ahead. The 2nd half was totally different and I thought we outplayed Irish 1 to 15 with some big performances, particularly in the pack. I thought Ben Earl was probably MoM with some amazing hard yards and great hands. IVZ is a very decent scrum half and Owen controlled the game. Eroni Mawi must think it is all very easy with 2 tries in a 15 minute cameo!!
Deservedly top of the table and in a good position to get to Twickenham.

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Posted by: JimG (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 18:00

Our defence was excellent throughout. To keep them to 2 tries one of which was purely consolation was a good effort.

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 19:18

Charlie Morgan of the Telegraph reporting that Theo Dan is very much on the radar for England’s World Cup preparations.

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Posted by: ninjafez (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 19:34

is it me or did we get marched back again after that amazing hit on Tiz? that and our slow starts need to go!!!

Ninjafez - supporting Sarries and cleaning their signs since 2006!

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 20:52

We certainly did. Their no 8 was an absolute beast

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2023 20:52

Well done lads, I thought Big Nick Isy was a contender for MoM, he was awesome in line out and tackling. Theo excellent, Ben too. I would’ve given award to one of them. And well played Eroni, a brace on his 50th. I would like to see him start a few more games. And Jacko was superb, carrying his heart out - I sincerely hope we don’t let him go.

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Posted by: JimG (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2023 09:20

Quote:
ninjafez
is it me or did we get marched back again after that amazing hit on Tiz? that and our slow starts need to go!!!

I think Owen was just making the point that the tackler was a bit slow getting out of the way after the tackle making the clear out harder. Sounded perfectly reasonable but the ref disagreed (again fair enough). There is obviously a fine line here and he was deemed to have crossed it but I don’t have any problem with that. I thought he otherwise did a good job making his points but staying on the right side of the ref.

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Posted by: ninjafez (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2023 09:28

yeah i think its just the fact that we had so many this year, this by itself is quite innocuous but as a trend....

Ninjafez - supporting Sarries and cleaning their signs since 2006!

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Posted by: Duncan96 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2023 10:46

Have to feel a little sorry for Irish that, just because of the order in which the games fell, Saints played our 2nd 15 and Irish our 1st. That had a big bearing on Northampton winning and Irish losing. Had the order and results been the other way round then so might the play off places also be.

But as Declan Kidney said, we earned the right to rest players against Northampton.

Mark MacCall's comments imply the first team will also play Bath in order to be ready for the semi. A big hurdle in terms of Bath's European qualification

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Posted by: JimG (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2023 12:25

Interesting point and yes that is unfortunate for Irish. Bath won’t be easy. They are starting to motor and their midfield with Lawrence and Big Joe coming in off his wing is a real handful. I’ve told anyone who’ll listen that out of all our home games Lawrence has been the best opposition player I’ve seen.

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Posted by: OldMarovian (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2023 12:50

Well that was enjoyable smiling smiley

Well done team and coaches.

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Posted by: JimG (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2023 07:10

The few rows in front of us in the West stand are always virtually empty (apart from randomers who clearly move up from the standing area) but are never available on line so presumably STH. Who are these people who buy season tickets but never go?

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Posted by: Duncan96 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2023 08:57

Quote:
JimG
The few rows in front of us in the West stand are always virtually empty (apart from randomers who clearly move up from the standing area) but are never available on line so presumably STH. Who are these people who buy season tickets but never go?

A few people are saying similar things. It looks like it’s a significant issue as the club are running a prize draw for STHs whose tickets are used 100%, presumably as a result of noticing the problem. It obviously helps financially to sell the ticket but it’s bad for the fan experience (atmosphere in old English) and no shows don’t buy beer and pies.

A result of being based in an area near to places like Totteridge where some people have plenty of spare money?

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Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2023 09:09

When we were at VR there were 5 blokes (not always the same ones, and they yackedand moaned all the time), who sat behind us and 3 seats next to us, which were mostly occupied until half time then they disappeared, presumably to the hospitality area. So, it could be that there's a company/organisation who have a block of tickets to give out.

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Posted by: TOKS (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2023 11:14

Quote:
Duncan96
Have to feel a little sorry for Irish that, just because of the order in which the games fell, Saints played our 2nd 15 and Irish our 1st. That had a big bearing on Northampton winning and Irish losing. Had the order and results been the other way round then so might the play off places also be.
But as Declan Kidney said, we earned the right to rest players against Northampton.

Mark MacCall's comments imply the first team will also play Bath in order to be ready for the semi. A big hurdle in terms of Bath's European qualification

In a season of catastrophic decisions by the utter catastrophe that is Claire Hodnett we managed to weather ours (notably Saints home although we weren't quite so lucky with Sale away) whereas Irish were very clearly denied three match points at Quins when the most patently obvious dangerous, late and in the air tackle was inexplicably missed. It would have meant the end of the game and a win for Irish (and their play-off hopes still alive).

Still I won't say any more in case I upset the Karma gods!

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