QUINS v SARRIES: please post match-related comments here
By The Saracens February 12 2025
Thank goodness! This Saturday sees the end of our reluctant journey through the Premiership Cup with a visit to The Stoop. Sarries don’t appear to have been wholly committed to this competition for many years (in fairness this year, they would have struggled even if they had wanted to due to the huge number of injuries and International call-ups), using it as a learning curve for their younger players. Incidentally on another matter, why do we play U-20’s internationals during the time those players could actually be getting first team experience against Premiership opposition? Surely those U-20 games should be played during the regular season when the youngsters don’t get a look in? (Rant over).
Our performance (and I’m not expecting much of a one) will be there for all to see on TNT (well if you can afford the subscription that is). I’ve pretty much lost track of the comings and goings over the last few weeks. Not sure Carwyn Tuipolotu even got himself a peg in the changing room before he was off! Basically this game is a dead rubber for us. Quins will finish top and although mathematically we could still pip Trailfinders for 2nd, they are playing London Scottish and we’re playing Quins so what do you think? At least it means the rest of the squad will get a well-deserved break in the sun for a couple of weeks.
Apparently we have used 46 players over the course of the 5 rounds so far. Of those players who may have some interest in the game, I assume Goodey will continue his rehab and will probably play a bit longer than he did last week. Theo McFarland should also get a bit of game-time if his recovery is on schedule. Louie Johnon and Charlie Bracken could also do with more outings together. We will probably have to field the likes of Mawi and Cleary due to lack of cover. Tizard has had a bit of a workout recently (probably welcome after his enforced lay off) again due to lack of anyone else and it has been good experience for Michelow, obviously being groomed as future captaincy material. Jackson and Elliott on the wings have looked promising and I like Hartley at 12 (who is also rehabbing I assume).
No idea what sort of team Quins will put out – probably strongish as they are going through to the next round and would presumably like a home tie. Apparently Alex Dombrandt is likely to feature at Borthers’ request. I assume the presence of the TV cameras means we will have a TMO (the absence of the TV Official has been one of the few positives so far in this competition).
Anything short of an injury-free hammering will be a result for us but don’t hold your breath.
QUINS v SARRIES: please post match-related comments here
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Date: 12/02/2025 11:46
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Looking ahead do we have any friendlies in the pipeline? Next match is Quins at Tottenham and they’ve got the prem cup to get some minutes whereas only our internationals will be playing in that time.
Obviously hoping for a win but it’s a big ask, frustrating that another prem cup campaign has been hampered by so many injuries.
16 Sam Crean
17 Phil Brantingham
18 Harvey Beaton
19 Kaden Pearce-Paul
20 Reggie Hammick
21 Charlie Bracken
22 Tiff Eden
23 Jack Bracken
Unavailable for selection:
International Duty: Jamie George, Theo Dan, Maro Itoje, Ben Earl, Elliot Daly, Nick Tompkins, Fergus Burke, Liam Williams, Marco Riccioni
Injury: Rhys Carre, Eoghan Clarke, Samson Adejimi, Fraser Balmain, Nick Isiekwe, Theo McFarland, Toby Knight, Andy Christie, Rotimi Segun, Lucio Cinti, Sam Spink, Olly Hartley
Rested: Alex Lozowski, Ivan Van Zyl, Juan Martin Gonzalez
Carre’s injury must be pretty serious, at least 6 weeks now. Hadn’t realised Balmain was injured again. No centre cover at all, and Hallett hobbled off last Friday. What happened to Ollie Hartley? He was ok last week?
15. Leigh Halfpenny (7)
14. Nick David (65)
13. Will Joseph (19)
12. Ben Waghorn (8)
11. Cassius Cleaves (12)
10. Jarrod Evans (31)
9. Danny Care (389)
1. Wyn Jones (14)
2. Sam Riley (63)
3. Simon Kerrod (118)
4. Joe Launchbury (34)
5. Stephan Lewies (79)
6. George Hammond (74)
7. Will Evans (116)
8. Alex Dombrandt (149)
IMPACT PLAYERS:
16. Jack Walker (79)
17. Jordan Els (42)
18. Will Hobson (15)
19. Irne Herbst (59)
20. Lucas Schmid (5)
21. Lewis Gjaltema (37)
22. Jamie Benson (15)
23. Tyrone Green (85)
Given the very dodgy card decisions by the ref I am pleasantly surprised that we are still in the game. In fact I think our forwards are matching theirs up front most of the time. Just need some better first up tackling from some of our backs and we might pull off a shock win.
No matter what happens in the last 10 this has been a huge game for the growth of the team. Eke having a great game, Michelow leading excellently. All round a massive effort I'm happy regardless right now.
What a great result for such a young team. Quins had quite a number of their 1st XV playing today and with the exception of Dombrandt none of them shone. I am so impressed with our pack when you think they were playing against the likes of Launchbury, Levies and Herbst and Tobias Elliott was the spark that made the difference and won us the match despite the ref’s interventions! Good for morale and incredible experience for that group.
Wow what a great performance, on BT at one point I thought I was listening to Quins TV coverage lol. We will have some strength and depth when those players come through. Brilliant stuff!!!
Well done lads, thought Max Eke can feel hard done by for not getting MoM, but Tobias was class as well. Thought Simpson was excellent in defence and nice to see Charlie get on and give quick ball. Jack B had no right to finish that try.
Enjoy the beers tonight lads, you did great!
Just need the women to now confirm their play off place.
Shows a bright future as that is just attitude you want to see. Great performance. Definitely a deserved result too on the play in the game against a very experienced team.
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What a great performance. Loads of attitude and the young lads did brilliantly against an experienced Quins team. We’re certainly not lacking for wingers or backrowers in the future. Elliott and Eke superb today. Jackson improving without each match. J Bracken with a great finish, didn’t think he had that sort of power in him! His brother has a lovely pass on him.
Likewise a great performance from a young team …the future looks bright !
Now for the women - although gutted I cant be there - 5.30 on a Saturday is not a great time 😡
Why does Craig Doyle keep bleating on about the "hate" between us and Quins. He even tried to draw AD into commenting on it during the post match interview. Annoys me no end. Doyle seemed to be genuinely disappointed we'd won.
viewfromthe22 Doyle seemed to be genuinely disappointed we'd won.
Because he genuinely was disappointed. The narrative all game was how good Quins were.
The Bracken boys look fantastic. Jack looks about 15 years old and not very big but he just powered through the tackler to score his try. Thought Eke was superb as well but Elliot is class, way better than the Quin who butchered his England debut the other week.
viewfromthe22 Why does Craig Doyle keep bleating on about the "hate" between us and Quins. He even tried to draw AD into commenting on it during the post match interview. Annoys me no end. Doyle seemed to be genuinely disappointed we'd won.
It's a narrative to sell the game, every match seems to need one.
Really impressed with the composure to score the first try when we weren’t making much headway. What is it with conversions from in front of the posts? That’s 3 we’ve missed this year. Back line missed a few tackles but by and large the defence was excellent. Scrum solid and lineout decent. Incredible effort from Eke to pinch a couple when they were in prime field possession.
Just left the boys who are celebrating hard as for some of these guys it’s potentially there last game of the season. The future is bright and some contract renewals and new signings will be released soon
dirtybertie Just left the boys who are celebrating hard as for some of these guys it’s potentially there last game of the season. The future is bright and some contract renewals and new signings will be released soon
Thanks Bertie ….they deserve every beer they can get after todays performance .
I suspect Mr Tizzard will have particularly enjoyed winning against the odds at the Stoop …
Does anyone know a bit more about James Tirrell? He and Webber seem to have been the coaches for yesterdays game and whether they were for the previous one or not there seemed to have been a marked difference in how we played?
Given the encouraging way the U18s also played is this players slipping the senior coaching leash or a sign that our first XV/23 might also change things up?
Webber and Tirrell have been coaching throughout the comp but this was the first time I’ve noticed Mark McCall there and giving advice. Encouraging signs but there was a clear emphasis on defence which I have no issue with if it works. Plenty of one up tackles missed which is understandable but our scramble defence was ace. Also a good period where we were marching them back and made Jarrod Evans look very ordinary. It looks similarly to the growing pains of England defence.
The Bard Really impressed with the composure to score the first try when we weren’t making much headway. What is it with conversions from in front of the posts? That’s 3 we’ve missed this year. Back line missed a few tackles but by and large the defence was excellent. Scrum solid and lineout decent. Incredible effort from Eke to pinch a couple when they were in prime field possession.
I think the other two kicks were in the Bulls game during a storm weren’t they? Some relevant excuses for each. The commentators said there was no shot clock in the stadium and the ref was too far away for Louie to hear his warnings.
dirtybertie Just left the boys who are celebrating hard as for some of these guys it’s potentially there last game of the season. The future is bright and some contract renewals and new signings will be released soon
Thanks Bertie- they deserve the celebrations! Hopefully that means last match for our senior team and not last match completely? If it is then the new “A league” can’t come soon enough. Hopefully they’ll be running out for Ampthill though.
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