QUINS v SARRIES: please post match-related comments here


By The Saracens
February 12 2025

Thank goodness! This Saturday sees the end of our reluctant journey through the Premiership Cup with a visit to The Stoop. Sarries don’t appear to have been wholly committed to this competition for many years (in fairness this year, they would have struggled even if they had wanted to due to the huge number of injuries and International call-ups), using it as a learning curve for their younger players. Incidentally on another matter, why do we play U-20’s internationals during the time those players could actually be getting first team experience against Premiership opposition? Surely those U-20 games should be played during the regular season when the youngsters don’t get a look in? (Rant over).

Our performance (and I’m not expecting much of a one) will be there for all to see on TNT (well if you can afford the subscription that is). I’ve pretty much lost track of the comings and goings over the last few weeks. Not sure Carwyn Tuipolotu even got himself a peg in the changing room before he was off! Basically this game is a dead rubber for us. Quins will finish top and although mathematically we could still pip Trailfinders for 2nd, they are playing London Scottish and we’re playing Quins so what do you think? At least it means the rest of the squad will get a well-deserved break in the sun for a couple of weeks.

Apparently we have used 46 players over the course of the 5 rounds so far. Of those players who may have some interest in the game, I assume Goodey will continue his rehab and will probably play a bit longer than he did last week. Theo McFarland should also get a bit of game-time if his recovery is on schedule. Louie Johnon and Charlie Bracken could also do with more outings together. We will probably have to field the likes of Mawi and Cleary due to lack of cover. Tizard has had a bit of a workout recently (probably welcome after his enforced lay off) again due to lack of anyone else and it has been good experience for Michelow, obviously being groomed as future captaincy material. Jackson and Elliott on the wings have looked promising and I like Hartley at 12 (who is also rehabbing I assume).

No idea what sort of team Quins will put out – probably strongish as they are going through to the next round and would presumably like a home tie. Apparently Alex Dombrandt is likely to feature at Borthers’ request. I assume the presence of the TV cameras means we will have a TMO (the absence of the TV Official has been one of the few positives so far in this competition).

Anything short of an injury-free hammering will be a result for us but don’t hold your breath.

QUINS v SARRIES: please post match-related comments here
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Date: 12/02/2025 11:46

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 12/02/2025 11:58

Looking ahead do we have any friendlies in the pipeline? Next match is Quins at Tottenham and they’ve got the prem cup to get some minutes whereas only our internationals will be playing in that time.

Obviously hoping for a win but it’s a big ask, frustrating that another prem cup campaign has been hampered by so many injuries.

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 12/02/2025 13:23

We should see Harry Wilson back from his ban, not sure how far off Adejimi is.

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 13/02/2025 13:11

Game is a selll out, quite extraordinary given our meagre attendances at these games.

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Posted by: Robert495 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/02/2025 14:12

I think it also helps that it doesnt clash with any internationals this weekend but it is still impressive

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Posted by: AP (IP Logged)
Date: 13/02/2025 18:09

And they are looking certain to qualify for the next round.

Successful hills are here to stay
Everything must be this way
Gentle streets where people play
Welcome to the Soft Parade

🌻🌻🌻

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Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 13/02/2025 18:34

and its on TV

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Posted by: Surbiton Sarries (IP Logged)
Date: 14/02/2025 09:52

Referee: George Selwood
ARs: Alex Thomas & James Clarke
TMO: David Rose

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 14/02/2025 11:57

Saracens Men team to play Harlequins:

1 Eroni Mawi
2 James Hadfield
3 Alec Clarey
4 Olamide Sodeke
5 Hugh Tizard
6 Harry Wilson
7 Max Eke
8 Nathan Michelow ©
9 Gareth Simpson
10 Louie Johnson
11 Brandon Jackson
12 Josh Hallett
13 Angus Hall
14 Tobias Elliott
15 Alex Goode

Replacements:

16 Sam Crean
17 Phil Brantingham
18 Harvey Beaton
19 Kaden Pearce-Paul
20 Reggie Hammick
21 Charlie Bracken
22 Tiff Eden
23 Jack Bracken

Unavailable for selection:

International Duty: Jamie George, Theo Dan, Maro Itoje, Ben Earl, Elliot Daly, Nick Tompkins, Fergus Burke, Liam Williams, Marco Riccioni

Injury: Rhys Carre, Eoghan Clarke, Samson Adejimi, Fraser Balmain, Nick Isiekwe, Theo McFarland, Toby Knight, Andy Christie, Rotimi Segun, Lucio Cinti, Sam Spink, Olly Hartley

Rested: Alex Lozowski, Ivan Van Zyl, Juan Martin Gonzalez

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 14/02/2025 12:23

Carre’s injury must be pretty serious, at least 6 weeks now. Hadn’t realised Balmain was injured again. No centre cover at all, and Hallett hobbled off last Friday. What happened to Ollie Hartley? He was ok last week?

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 14/02/2025 12:24

QUINS STARTING XV

15. Leigh Halfpenny (7)
14. Nick David (65)
13. Will Joseph (19)
12. Ben Waghorn (8)
11. Cassius Cleaves (12)
10. Jarrod Evans (31)
9. Danny Care (389)
1. Wyn Jones (14)
2. Sam Riley (63)
3. Simon Kerrod (118)
4. Joe Launchbury (34)
5. Stephan Lewies (79)
6. George Hammond (74)
7. Will Evans (116)
8. Alex Dombrandt (149)

IMPACT PLAYERS:
16. Jack Walker (79)
17. Jordan Els (42)
18. Will Hobson (15)
19. Irne Herbst (59)
20. Lucas Schmid (5)
21. Lewis Gjaltema (37)
22. Jamie Benson (15)
23. Tyrone Green (85)

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Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 14/02/2025 13:43

The positive is good experience for many of our young players and we finally get to see Beaton play.

Quite hard to see anything but a home win though given a very strong Quins team minus International.

I'm looking forward to a performance to be proud of from Saracens.

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Posted by: Toga (IP Logged)
Date: 14/02/2025 17:49

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The Bard
Game is a selll out, quite extraordinary given our meagre attendances at these games.


They're desperate to see Quins beat any level of Saracens team.

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Posted by: nedrichards (IP Logged)
Date: 14/02/2025 20:05

And 7,000 at the women's game this evening. Quins do a great job at getting people in, fair play.

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Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 00:42

Quote:
Toga
Quote:
The Bard
Game is a selll out, quite extraordinary given our meagre attendances at these games.


They're desperate to see Quins beat any level of Saracens team.

Well their Men's team beat ours the last time the two met so ...

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 15:40

Disgraceful decision from the ref, that's a red every day of the week. No drop in height, sprinting full speed, no mitigation...

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Posted by: Toga (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 15:46

This referee isn't even trying to be discreet is he.

Absolute joker.

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Date: 15/02/2025 15:46

Two really harsh yellow cards against us in the first half.

Supporting Saracens for over 55 years.

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Posted by: Nosher1979 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 15:47

The ref is having a bad day, very card happy.

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 15:48

Enjoying this even handed reffing. Dombrandt really can turn it on at this level…

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Posted by: ComeOnSarries (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 15:54

Given the very dodgy card decisions by the ref I am pleasantly surprised that we are still in the game. In fact I think our forwards are matching theirs up front most of the time. Just need some better first up tackling from some of our backs and we might pull off a shock win.

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Posted by: Toga (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 15:57

Quote:
TommyKentish
Enjoying this even handed reffing. Dombrandt really can turn it on at this level…



Apposite words.

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:00

Quote:
Toga
Quote:
TommyKentish
Enjoying this even handed reffing. Dombrandt really can turn it on at this level…



Apposite words.

Im glad it was spotted 😉

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:02

Got all 3 card decisions wrong. Well done lads, good to see us attacking and still in it.

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Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:03

We seem to be playing against the proverbial 16 men and yet it's a reasonable showing so far.

A shame not to have banked the extra four points and the last one was so close.
Hopefully they can keep it close in the second half.

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:16

Tobias really is some player, popping up as playmaker and real gas on him.

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Posted by: Toga (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:16

The Comms have been blowing so much smoke up Cleaves ar5e all match and they've finally noticed that Elliot is actually the best wing on the pitch.



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Posted by: Static (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:42

No matter what happens in the last 10 this has been a huge game for the growth of the team. Eke having a great game, Michelow leading excellently. All round a massive effort I'm happy regardless right now.

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Posted by: Surbiton Sarries (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:54

Well done, lads.

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Posted by: Toga (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:54

Haha!

Harlequins 29 - Saracens 2nds 30

💪🏻😂

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Posted by: Nosher1979 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:55

Great game from the lads

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:55

Great result for the young lads!

(despite the ref's best efforts winking smiley )

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Posted by: ComeOnSarries (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:58

What a great result for such a young team. Quins had quite a number of their 1st XV playing today and with the exception of Dombrandt none of them shone. I am so impressed with our pack when you think they were playing against the likes of Launchbury, Levies and Herbst and Tobias Elliott was the spark that made the difference and won us the match despite the ref’s interventions! Good for morale and incredible experience for that group.

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Posted by: wolfgangvonb77 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 16:59

Wow what a great performance, on BT at one point I thought I was listening to Quins TV coverage lol. We will have some strength and depth when those players come through. Brilliant stuff!!!

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:04

Well done lads, thought Max Eke can feel hard done by for not getting MoM, but Tobias was class as well. Thought Simpson was excellent in defence and nice to see Charlie get on and give quick ball. Jack B had no right to finish that try.

Enjoy the beers tonight lads, you did great!

Just need the women to now confirm their play off place.

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Posted by: Static (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:04

Shows a bright future as that is just attitude you want to see. Great performance. Definitely a deserved result too on the play in the game against a very experienced team.



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Posted by: Kevetty (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:11

Great win for a team full of youngsters and to deny a loaded Quins team a home quarter final (Sm103)

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:13

What a great performance. Loads of attitude and the young lads did brilliantly against an experienced Quins team. We’re certainly not lacking for wingers or backrowers in the future. Elliott and Eke superb today. Jackson improving without each match. J Bracken with a great finish, didn’t think he had that sort of power in him! His brother has a lovely pass on him.

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Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:19

I agree with all the above. What an encouraging performance.

Looking forward to the Saracens Women hopefully completing a great weekend for the club.

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Posted by: OTsarrie (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:25

Likewise a great performance from a young team …the future looks bright !
Now for the women - although gutted I cant be there - 5.30 on a Saturday is not a great time 😡

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:29

I’m not a fan of that time either. We seem to have a lot of home matches at 17:30 though, I wonder if it is the club asking for them then.

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Posted by: viewfromthe22 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 17:39

Why does Craig Doyle keep bleating on about the "hate" between us and Quins. He even tried to draw AD into commenting on it during the post match interview. Annoys me no end. Doyle seemed to be genuinely disappointed we'd won.

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Posted by: Toga (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 18:01

Quote:
viewfromthe22
Doyle seemed to be genuinely disappointed we'd won.


Because he genuinely was disappointed. The narrative all game was how good Quins were.

The Bracken boys look fantastic. Jack looks about 15 years old and not very big but he just powered through the tackler to score his try. Thought Eke was superb as well but Elliot is class, way better than the Quin who butchered his England debut the other week.

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Posted by: NGSB (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 18:14

Thanks Sarries

Love from The Gardens

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 18:16

Louie’s kick to win gave MoM to Tobias from Dombrandt!

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Posted by: Roderick Flashheart (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 19:42

Quote:
viewfromthe22
Why does Craig Doyle keep bleating on about the "hate" between us and Quins. He even tried to draw AD into commenting on it during the post match interview. Annoys me no end. Doyle seemed to be genuinely disappointed we'd won.

It's a narrative to sell the game, every match seems to need one.

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 21:21

Really impressed with the composure to score the first try when we weren’t making much headway. What is it with conversions from in front of the posts? That’s 3 we’ve missed this year. Back line missed a few tackles but by and large the defence was excellent. Scrum solid and lineout decent. Incredible effort from Eke to pinch a couple when they were in prime field possession.

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 21:37

Just seen online the average age of our 23 was 23 and a half, and apart from Eroni the whole team was EQP

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 22:32

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Sarriebone
Just seen online the average age of our 23 was 23 and a half, and apart from Eroni the whole team was EQP

Goodie going off slashed the average age of our backline!!

What was great to see was that we were afraid to attach when we could…it can be done.

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Posted by: dirtybertie (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 22:32

Just left the boys who are celebrating hard as for some of these guys it’s potentially there last game of the season. The future is bright and some contract renewals and new signings will be released soon

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 22:34

Quote:
dirtybertie
Just left the boys who are celebrating hard as for some of these guys it’s potentially there last game of the season. The future is bright and some contract renewals and new signings will be released soon

Thanks dirtybertie

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Posted by: OTsarrie (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2025 23:33

Thanks Bertie ….they deserve every beer they can get after todays performance .
I suspect Mr Tizzard will have particularly enjoyed winning against the odds at the Stoop …

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Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2025 07:40

Does anyone know a bit more about James Tirrell? He and Webber seem to have been the coaches for yesterdays game and whether they were for the previous one or not there seemed to have been a marked difference in how we played?

Given the encouraging way the U18s also played is this players slipping the senior coaching leash or a sign that our first XV/23 might also change things up?

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2025 08:17

Webber and Tirrell have been coaching throughout the comp but this was the first time I’ve noticed Mark McCall there and giving advice. Encouraging signs but there was a clear emphasis on defence which I have no issue with if it works. Plenty of one up tackles missed which is understandable but our scramble defence was ace. Also a good period where we were marching them back and made Jarrod Evans look very ordinary. It looks similarly to the growing pains of England defence.

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2025 08:20

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The Bard
Really impressed with the composure to score the first try when we weren’t making much headway. What is it with conversions from in front of the posts? That’s 3 we’ve missed this year. Back line missed a few tackles but by and large the defence was excellent. Scrum solid and lineout decent. Incredible effort from Eke to pinch a couple when they were in prime field possession.

I think the other two kicks were in the Bulls game during a storm weren’t they? Some relevant excuses for each. The commentators said there was no shot clock in the stadium and the ref was too far away for Louie to hear his warnings.

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2025 08:23

Quote:
dirtybertie
Just left the boys who are celebrating hard as for some of these guys it’s potentially there last game of the season. The future is bright and some contract renewals and new signings will be released soon

Thanks Bertie- they deserve the celebrations! Hopefully that means last match for our senior team and not last match completely? If it is then the new “A league” can’t come soon enough. Hopefully they’ll be running out for Ampthill though.

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Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2025 21:00

Quote:
TommyKentish
Dombrandt really can turn it on at this level…

Inexplicably called back into the England camp. Is he Marcus Smith's Emotional Support Animal or something?

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Posted by: LutonS (IP Logged)
Date: 17/02/2025 10:27

Quote:
PaulHerox
Quote:
TommyKentish
Dombrandt really can turn it on at this level…

Inexplicably called back into the England camp. Is he Marcus Smith's Emotional Support Animal or something?

[:wor kid:]

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