Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview


By saracensfan62
April 29 2025

With news coming from the RFU that Bill Sweeney is keen to implement a franchise-style league, we now face Newcastle at the StoneX. Entering the ‘do or die’ part of the season, it’s now or never for us if we want to qualify for the knockouts. It’s still mathematically possible for Newcastle to move off the bottom of the table — and very much possible for us to qualify — but it would require a lot to go right. The Falcons would need to win at least two of their last three games and take one bonus point or more, while also relying on Exeter to collapse in their final three fixtures. Newcastle have shown signs of improvement recently, losing by just a single point at home to Northampton and nearly pulling off an upset away to Exeter in late March. A win there would have marked their first away victory since November 2022, when they beat Gloucester at Kingsholm. Their last win? At Kingston Park… against us. Let’s hope they don’t do the double over us this season — that would be an embarrassing feat, making us the only team not to have beaten Newcastle in the Premiership. From our perspective, and after a deeply disappointing loss to Sale last weekend, we return to StoneX with a point to prove. Simply put, this is a must-win five-pointer.

Newcastle Falcons – Yet Another Season of Disappointment…

Newcastle have been struggling for some time. They finished bottom of the Premiership in both the 2022–23 and 2023–24 seasons, and were second from bottom in 2021–22 — saved only by a slightly better points difference than Bath. Despite continued struggles on the field, their fanbase has grown, with a significant rise in season ticket sales. Off the field, the club is trying to build a more resilient culture and promote youth from their academy.

Defensively, the stats tell a grim story: Newcastle have conceded 80 tries over 15 matches this season — an average of 5.33 per game. With Steve Diamond currently suspended for abusing match officials, coach Alan Dickens will be tasked with rallying the team following their heavy defeat at Bath.

Key players such as Adam Brocklebank, winger Ben Stevenson, and veteran captain Callum Chick will be crucial in keeping calm and setting an example. The scrum should be a fascinating contest: Alec Clarey vs Brocklebank, and Rhys Carre vs Richard Palframan. I expect the likes of Maro Itoje, Theo McFarland, and Nick Isiekwe to apply significant pressure to their the lineout.


Saracens – Too Little Too Late, or the Start of a Miracle Comeback?

Our form lately has been increasingly patchy. Yes, the Six Nations period disrupted things, but other clubs also had players away and managed to maintain rhythm — something we’ve struggled with.

Unlike Newcastle’s defensive issues, our biggest problems lie in our attack and efficiency in the 22. A lack of momentum and creativity going forward has become glaring. At Sale, we only managed one converted try despite entering their 22 eight times — a clear sign our execution is falling short. Teams like Northampton, Bristol, Bath, and Gloucester seem to score tries for fun; for us, it’s been a grind.

Fergus Burke’s goal kicking is also a growing concern. With a success rate of 67%, it's far below the 85%+ we’ve come to expect from our former 10 Mr Farrell. This inconsistency is costing us points — 21 missed conversions out of 58 tries equates to 42 potential points left on the field in just 15 games.

Even more concerning was the scrum — it was dismantled by Sale’s front row last week. Injuries to Marco Riccioni and Fraser Balmain have hurt us badly at this late point in the season. We need to re-establish dominance there, win penalties, and protect our fly-half. It’s harsh to blame Fergus when he’s getting slow or scrappy ball from a pack under pressure.


Structure and Attack Match-Up

A few seasons ago, Newcastle and Saracens looked like they came from two different rugby galaxies. Saracens were the Premiership's polished, battle-hardened giants — built on smart recruitment, consistency, and a clear identity. Led by Jamie George and Maro Itoje, we played a well-drilled, high-pressure game built on control, precision, and clinical execution. Our 1/3/3/1 forward structure was simple but effective, consistently winning territory and setting tempo.

Today, both Saracens and Falcons are in transition. While Newcastle still lack the resources and star power, they've embraced a scrappier, hard-working identity. They're relying more on academy talent and grit. Under Diamond, there’s a focus on fundamentals and resilience, though it’s still a work in progress. Their structure is based on fighting for every metre, punishing opposition errors, and hanging in games for as long as possible.

What’s admirable about Newcastle is their refusal to go quietly. They’ve come close to some big upsets this season. But they often fall short due to a lack of bench impact and the stamina to last the full 80 minutes.


Expected Saracens Lineup

I’m expecting a strong reaction this week. It’s the penultimate home game of the regular season, and we need our big names to step up. A 6–2 bench split feels unnecessary against Newcastle — no disrespect to their pack, but they’re not as strong as Sale or Leicester. I’d like to see Alex Goode start at full-back for his composure, with Elliot Daly moving to outside centre. Having Nick Tompkins on the bench provides flexibility at 12 and 13, while Louis Johnson can cover both full-back and fly-half. Charlie Bracken deserves more minutes, especially with Ivan van Zyl looking sluggish around the breakdown lately. I doubt Bracken will start, but here’s my predicted Saracens XV:

  1.        Rhys Carre
  2.        Jamie George
  3.        Alec Clarey
  4.        Maro Itoje
  5.        Nick Isiekwe
  6.        Juan Martin-Gonzalez
  7.        Ben Earl
  8.        Tom Willis
  9.        Ivan Van-Zyl
  10.   Fergus Burke
  11.   Rotimi Segun
  12.   Olly Hartley
  13.   Elliot Daly
  14.   Tobias Elliott
  15.   Alex Goode
  16.   Theo Dan
  17.   Eroni Mawi
  18.   Harvey Beaton
  19.   Theo McFarland
  20.   Andy Onyeama-Christie
  21.   Charlie Bracken
  22.   Louis Johnson
  23.   Nick Tompkins

A huge game that could make or break our season. While we still need other results to go our way, I have full belief in Mark McCall and his team to bounce back. Having had many underwhelming displays at the StoneX in recent times, this game needs to provide a reason for people to continue coming along and cheering the team we love so much. Come on sarries!

Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
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Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: saracensfan62 (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2025 13:59

I'm aware this preview is out earlier than usual, but I hope it'll provide more time for people to comment their feelings and thoughts ahead of the game. I am busy most of next week so doubt I would've found the time to write this then.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2025 19:19

Thank you that's a really good preview.

We have to win and getting a TBP is important having come away from Sale with nothing.
Too many games we seem to have struggled to get the mental side right, not least Falcons away, so I hope the team are very clear.

I don't care about what other teams have done to Falcons.
Treat them with the respect any team deserves and don't take them lightly.
Also we better have a plan for them killing our ball and slowing it down like they did at theirs and no, that probably isn't letting Van-Zyl do his normal routine at the base.

I'd expect to see the same team as Sale bar any injuries.
Willis is so important to us I think I might put him on the bench with an "in case of emergency ..." directive and give Earl a run at 8.
I'd also keep Hartley and Tompkins together as they need the game time to get more comfortable with each other. Bracken, Goode and Hall on the bench.
McFarland, JMG and Earl in the backrow.

Falcons lineout is not good. Compete hard and kick off the park to challenge at their lineout.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: nicsue (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2025 22:06

The Club are advertising Alex Goode's 400th game for the Club, so I guess he will start.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: tigersimon (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2025 02:13

Was Burke the kicker for all those missed conversions?

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: saracensfan62 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2025 09:08

As nicsue stated, it's Goodey's 400th appearance for the club. I expect Goode would start at FB hence pushing Daly into 13.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: saracensfan62 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2025 09:10

tigerssimon, admittedly some of those missed kicks were in games where Alex Lozowski was the place kicker. However Fergus' goal kicking has not been up to standard anyway.
I don't know whether Angus Hall will be involved given the standdown period after a concussion and thus potentially lack of match fitness.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: #wolfpack1 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2025 09:52

Quote:
nicsue
The Club are advertising Alex Goode's 400th game for the Club, so I guess he will start.

“A team in transition” latest

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2025 10:35

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saracensfan62
tigerssimon, admittedly some of those missed kicks were in games where Alex Lozowski was the place kicker. However Fergus' goal kicking has not been up to standard anyway.

Am I mad though or is his kicking improving? Very good against Toulon, Gloucester nearly every kick was from the touchline and the one nearer the middle was interrupted by Harris running back in front of the ball. The StoneX is not an easy place to kick at due to the constant wind.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: AlanE2 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2025 13:04

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saracensfan62
tigerssimon, admittedly some of those missed kicks were in games where Alex Lozowski was the place kicker. However Fergus' goal kicking has not been up to standard anyway.

...... the one nearer the middle was interrupted by Harris running back in front of the ball.

Yes that was outrageous. Fergus should have been allowed to re-take - or at least to start again and get the full time allowance.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: saracensfan62 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2025 13:06

TK, yes I feel there have been improvements however so many kicks have costed us dearly and could cost us if it comes down to points difference at the end of the season. The lack of a consistent goal kicker who takes the kicks every game I feel isn't helping.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: ICantBelieveItsNotBartyII (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2025 11:50

Thoughts on Fergus's kicking might be slightly skewed by his definitely wobbly first match away at Gloucester where he was 2 from 6 conversions (but kicked a couple of penalties), and the fact he was almost on a hiding to nothing in the ridiculously windy matches at home vs Bulls and Northampton.

In the 7 other games he's been the kicker in, he's missed 5 out of 24, so kicking at 79%.

Definitely still room for improvement, but there are some mitigating circumstances, and to say its a growing concern seems a bit wrong to me

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2025 12:09

I think Bartys right.

Very early in the season I remember some painful misses with no excuses but I think there's some mitigation since.
In the Glaws game to my memory all the kicks missed were from out wide and most were close.

I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have 10 and goal-kicking separated but if he can do the job then there's no reason for him not to.

Having known little about him other than he played in SR I have been impressed with him.
I don't think how we've been playing suits him and yet he makes good decisions, rarely makes errors and defends his channel really well.
I think it'll take a little time but if we stick with him and vice-versa and back him to play his more natural game at the line I think we'll be rewarded.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2025 19:18

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ICantBelieveItsNotBartyII
Thoughts on Fergus's kicking might be slightly skewed by his definitely wobbly first match away at Gloucester where he was 2 from 6 conversions (but kicked a couple of penalties), and the fact he was almost on a hiding to nothing in the ridiculously windy matches at home vs Bulls and Northampton.
In the 7 other games he's been the kicker in, he's missed 5 out of 24, so kicking at 79%.

Definitely still room for improvement, but there are some mitigating circumstances, and to say its a growing concern seems a bit wrong to me

Thanks for backing up my feelings with actual facts! I think it’s important for his confidence to keep the kicking tee. Got to trust the guy and let him cook.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 04/05/2025 10:36

It will be fascinating to see in the coming month what teams face us.

Falcons will be full bore and channelling Arnold-gate?

Then two teams who could as easily send a c team as a full strength 23 depending on how they feel about preparation for the Final and Semi-Final the following week.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: saracensfan62 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/05/2025 12:25

I agree Paul. Could be a close match, given Falcons wanting to do the double on us this season...

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 09/05/2025 12:58

Saracens Men team to play Newcastle Falcons:

1 Eroni Mawi
2 Theo Dan
3 Alec Clarey
4 Maro Itoje (c)
5 Nick Isiekwe
6 Theo McFarland
7 Juan Martin Gonzalez
8 Ben Earl
9 Ivan van Zyl
10 Fergus Burke
11 Rotimi Segun
12 Nick Tompkins
13 Elliot Daly
14 Tobias Elliott
15 Alex Goode

Replacements:

16 Jamie George
17 Sam Crean
18 Harvey Beaton
19 Tom Willis
20 Andy Onyeama-Christie
21 Charlie Bracken
22 Louie Johnson
23 Angus Hall

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 09/05/2025 13:18

Tizard left out because of the history or injured? Really down to bare bones on either side of the props now.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 09/05/2025 16:47

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TommyKentish
Tizard left out because of the history or injured? Really down to bare bones on either side of the props now.

Good point re Tiz.

The perfect opportunity to start Charlie, but what do we know. At least we have 3 backs on the bench. Looks like Hartley has accommodated Goodie for his 400th.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 09/05/2025 18:44

No idea why we are wheeling out Maro for this, even allowing for possibly keeping Tiz out of this one. It’s hard to see he’d be available for many more games if we do get the win tomorrow.
My fear is won’t be able to stop them slowing down or pinching our ball as there are no obvious body-shifters in the pack.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Kevetty (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 08:57

Is todays game being shown live on TNT?

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 09:02

No, they're showing Bris v Bath

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Stumpy7780 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 09:16

All games are on TNT, no?

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 09:33

Ah, might be on the red button, forgot about that

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 09:47

It's on red button same time as Bristol v Bath TNT1, unless you've got Discovery+.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: villagesarrie (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 14:58

I've tried every which way to get discovery+ to let us watch it - red button on TNT1, through the discovery+ app, the lot. Simply isn't giving us the match. We have TNT, we're Sky subscribers etc etc but no go.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: maynas (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 16:39

Just got home, stuck on traffic on A1 for 2 hours in Mill Hill, no idea what trouble was, nothing on RAC/AA , fortunately seem to have activated Discovery+ so watching from start. Anyone any idea why A1 was at standstill?

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Eric Browett (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 16:48

Burst water main. We were in it too from 2.05 until 3.45. Round roundabout and back to Welwyn.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: maynas (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 19:04

I didnt even get to roundabout, took that cut through 50 yards before and U urned about 3.40
Crazy its not mentioned on traffic anywhere

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: ICantBelieveItsNotBartyII (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 19:33

We must have got lucky. Sat in 45 minutes of traffic from 1 onwards, from Stirling Corner on to the next one, but got through and made kick off.

Rewarded with a decent performance!

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: AP (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 19:55

Glad I go by public transport now, and didn't need the non-running trains to MHB!

Successful hills are here to stay
Everything must be this way
Gentle streets where people play
Welcome to the Soft Parade

🌻🌻🌻

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: nedrichards (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 20:27

Yep! Same, sorry for any who missed it, was a great occasion.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Rolls (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 20:41

Left Shenley/Radlett area at 13.35, no trains on Thameslink from Radlett due to engineering works, got to the ground just after the first try in the second half ie appx 16.00!! Enjoyed what we saw of the game, so pleased to see Goody make 400!

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Static (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 20:57

It was a good win, but tbh Falcons were poor.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: MarkCol7 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 21:06

Top 4 now back in our hands
2 try bonus wins gets us there

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: nicsue (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2025 22:21

Very fed up to be sat in traffic and only got there for the second half.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Roger G (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 07:16

We were lucky then, Google took us through the gridlocked back streets of Barnet - an hour and twenty for a, normally, half hour journey. Got the last but one shuttle and sat down, literally, as Falcons were kicking off.

As for the game, some work ons (defence out wide in broken play?), but also some entertaining stuff and a little more experience for some of the youngsters. Great to have the 17 graduates to the senior academy on show at half time. Wherever we end up this season there's much to look forward to for several years.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 08:06

That most people are talking about traffic says a lot.

First up congrats to Goodey, great occasion for him and glad we won. To the people who organised the banner on the east stand, great job! I’d love to see more of that sort of thing and would be happy to contribute via the SSA or something. The more we can get involved as a crowd the better.

As for the match, it remind me of playing Trailfinders in the playoffs. But we had a better overall team then. Not good for Newcastle, let’s just hope the Red Bull rumours come to something for both their sake and the wider league. It also reflects even more badly on our performance in the earlier fixture, that may well be the difference between us getting the playoffs or not.

The boys overall did the job, to nitpick our scrum was poor until the second half replacements came on, that could also be a reflection of Newcastle’s lack of depth. Webber has been a net positive in the scrum this season and I don’t think we’ve always got the reward deserved but the last couple of matches we have struggled. Our injuries at prop taking their toll I think. Also some poor discipline throughout and a bit of suicidal defence again. We can’t afford any of these things v Saints next week to stand a chance, I imagine they’ll play close to a full team to make sure they don’t go into the final undercooked.

I don’t want to focus on negatives after a win of that size though. Our maul is the best in the league and showed it again, IVZs try was lovely, Earl with a classic 8s try and a nice centres try and JMG is a delight to watch. We were more clinical than v Gloucester where we were dominant, nice to see. Lots of positives to take in attack. I also liked Johnson and Bracken’s cameos, both have very aesthetically pleasing techniques if that makes sense, lovely passing and kicking from both.

Earl at centre was interesting in itself, not a new thing but I get the sense that we’re moving towards a squad of extremely versatile players. Next season in just the backs we’ll have Daly, Malins, Lozowski, Burke, Elliot, Hall, Cinti, Johnson and possibly Goode who can all play multiple positions with most able to step in at first receiver. Add that to more direct runners like Tompkins, Hartley, Spink and Segun and it’s potentially a very exciting and chaotic attack.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: ballie (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 08:15

Two bonus points wins against Saints and Bath unlikely I think.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: #wolfpack1 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 09:10

I don’t think we can read a huge amount into yesterday.

Newcastle were rubbish; I don’t think we were all that good. The IVZ try was nice, and I enjoyed Earl’s second because it highlights what we all like about Tobias - he makes mistakes and is wanting defensively, but he backs himself and has been a breath of fresh air.

Scrum a bit disappointing.

I we a bit disappointed Charlie only got 20 mins or so, as we’d well won the game by half time. Also a bit disappointed that being 40 odd points up, we’re still box kicking and mauling. If ever there was a time to try something it would have been yesterday.

Saying that, I was pleased to see Ben Earl in the centres yesterday - he threw a gorgeous missed pass off his left hand too. I really think it’s something we should take very seriously. Our centres have been found a bit wanting this season imo, and our backrow is a source of incredible depth. It could be a way of getting all our best players on the pitch at the same time.

I can’t see us getting the required result next week v Saints, but who knows. If we don’t get to the play offs it won’t be because we lost away at Saints - earlier results in the season (away Newcastle in particular) have tripped us up there.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 09:10

Was there any thought of delaying the kick-off given that it wasn’t a prime televised slot? Is 10 conversions a ground record for us? Great to see Ferguson and Louis striking it so well.
I did worry they could make it tight game around half time as they clearly had the upper hand at scrum time.
But they were a pale shadow of the team we played up there and you do worry if they feel they are facing oblivion.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 09:24

Well done to Falcons. Game despite probably spending half of our budget and they took their TBP well.

Also huge congratulations to Goode on his 400th. He's be a phenomenal player for the club and I hope he takes the opportunity to sign off this season and bank all those great memories.

It's a bit hard to judge a performance against that type of opposition but for me the first ten minutes was as well as I've seen us play in an age and would be a blueprint for me in how we should play.
Really quick ball from 9, both direct running and also great link play with offloading to keep the speed of game up. Quick ball wide when the chances came. The physicality of the maul and Burke looking super sharp at the line.

Some of the open play was a real joy to watch and whilst nothing came of it I loved the phase where JMG broke and then linked with McFarland.

Are we expecting either Riccioni or Carre back before the end of the season. They could well be the difference.
The front row had a hard day at the office v a very good Falcons front row. In the loose Mawi's carrying and breakdown work were very good and Clarey works very hard. The bench front row did well but against a subbed out Falcons one which was a big drop in quality.
Scrum is a real area of concern.

Burke looks increasingly composed and kicked beautifully considering his few misses were from out wide. Johnson too.

I found it interesting given many calls for Hartley, Spink, etc how well Tompkins played yet again and also how badly we miss Lozowski at 13. Whether Tompkins or Daly has played there our defence has been an issue.

Last word for the young players. Elliott is already a great talent and looks like he could be something very special. Hall with a few errors when he came on but also a huge prospect. Bracken not adding the same tempo he has previously but also a very solid game.

As said elsewhere if we miss out on Top4 it really won't be about the next two games against two very good teams but the 4 losses to Falcons, Chiefs and Quins (twice)
The Falcons and Quins away losses given the teams sent were particularly inexcusable and were a direct results of our lack of attacking ambition/limited attack. This game felt like a step forward in that regard although the quality of opposition has to be taken into account.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 10:21

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#wolfpack1
Saying that, I was pleased to see Ben Earl in the centres yesterday - he threw a gorgeous missed pass off his left hand too.

That was right in front of my seat, an absolute seed!

Echoing others I thought Burke and Johnson’s kicking was great. Particularly from the former in the first half against three wind. Glad to see that’s coming along.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 10:30

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I found it interesting given many calls for Hartley, Spink, etc how well Tompkins played yet again and also how badly we miss Lozowski at 13. Whether Tompkins or Daly has played there our defence has been an issue

Good point, Tompkins has been on one since the six nations, he’s a particular menace at the breakdown at the moment. Loz’s defence is excellent as you say and Saints have proved you don’t need monsters in midfield to create a great attack. They have very different style and calibre half backs though so I still think we’d benefit from the bigger options there sometimes.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: Teacher-peter (retired) (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 11:47

Beginning to see why Sarries liked Burke. He has a smooth kicking style, decent tackling and is quite speedy. He does not yet control the other players, and perhaps he will not, but I'll be watching.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: #wolfpack1 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 13:23

I’ve hardly been the most glass half full fan this season, but I don’t really get the criticism Ferg has come in for. I think it’s been a bit unfair and premature.

In many places we’ve not been the “team in transition” that everyone pretends — saw a amusing quote from Joe Shaw saying yesterday was a “relatively new squad” ; same breath … brilliant for Goodey to achieve 400 games for the club… - but Fergus is new and is a player that deserves time to grow into his new role.

He’s got a nice running game when we make it work for him. There is a player in there - the challenge is to find a way to play to allow him to thrive I.e. quicker ball inside, a “get out” centre outside, and a general shape that helps him find space.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 15:55

If you look at how long it's taken 10's to settle in at other clubs Burke's integration is quite remarkable and a huge credit to him and the club.

A few early kicking woes aside I'd genuinely struggle to think of a game where he has looked anything but composed. There have been times he's struggled to make an impact but that's been much more about how we've been playing. Kicking most of the ball from 9 limits what your 10 can do.

I also think his defence is incredible. He defends his channel well but is also good at chasing down line-breakers. He seems to hit quite hard too and not in a "here comes a red" Farrell way.

I agree that he'd benefit from a direct option in the centres and that could be Cinti but the reality is if we play at pace against a resetting defence "big ball carriers" are less vital. They're at a premium when you continuously attack from static ball.

Re: Saracens v Newcastle Falcons Preview
Date: 11/05/2025 17:17

Looking to next Saturday our season will likely hinge on how many players Saints want to protect for their CC final the following weekend.
They fielded a junior side today at Exeter for that reason. I doubt that they will want to risk injury to key players so I’m looking forward to their team announcement.

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Posted by: OTsarrie (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 17:57

Just chipping in on Fergus , I think he is a player of real ability , both as a running 10 and as a really solid defender . Yesterday he kicked beautifully in windy conditions ( as did Louis when he came on ). He may need a bit of a confidence boost before he truly runs the game , but I am sure the club is giving him time to develop. Faz was such a dominant personality that he was always going to be a difficult act to follow , but in my view in the circumstances Fergus is doing very well so far …

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 20:23

Absolutely agree re Fergus, he is a class player with great basic ball skills as you would expect from a New Zealander - opponents keep running down his channel and he tackles every time. I think next season he will start to run games - correct, we need to get the game plan and service right for him to do that. IVZ was better yesterday and his box kicking used the wind well. It was lovely to see his try as we ran it from our own 22 through maybe 4 pairs of hands, so we can do it.

Well done to Falcons - only their second TBP of the season, although with all due respect our defence should’ve been better. Apparently, they were caught up int he traffic and arrived just before 2pm, so considering that they did OK - must be very demoralising for the players and fans. I do hope this Redbull thing comes off, they will invest heavily and hopefully they can hang on to the talent they are nurturing - will be great for the Prem to have a strong force in the North East.

I think Saints will field some first team players, but I cannot see them using all - but will be their last home game of the season prior to the Euro final and they will want to show the fans something and gain some momentum for the following Sat.

Quins did us a favour yesterday and it is Bris v Sale next Fri weekend. Hopefully Daly back to FB, bring Hartley back to 12 and give Angus a start on the other wing if Roti ruled out. Means nothing if we don’t have quick ball and a strong set piece.

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Posted by: AP (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2025 22:30

Fergus is the real deal and Louie shows promise. We need to build the team around them. They are not in the same mould as Faz, but the game has moved on from his style.

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Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2025 06:56

Fergus is completely different to Faz, I hate to say it but Danny Car was right (must wash my mouth out) there are similarities to Beauden Barrett in his game. I think that Johnson has some similarities though, he likes to take the ball flat to the line and fizz passes around.

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Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2025 11:56

Being so reliant on Farrell was always a double-edged sword and I am glad we've moved away from it. Even Maro isn't indispensable in the way Farrell seemed in my view.

My feeling is he doesn't need bedding in he needs to be handed the reigns and asked what he needs. I fully believe that we already have the players to get the best out of him.
The weekend reminded us that Van-Zyl can play at pace and is a threat in his own right. It's interesting that speed of ball stats don't look great but most of that is counted for from setting up box-kicks.
In game the service was between excellent and adequate.

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