Harlequins v Saracens Report


Aerial battle lost again
By saracensfan62
October 13 2025

Not an easy one to have to write up. After a positive feast of rugby over the weekend (Northampton v Leicester, Bath v Gloucester and Bristol v Exeter), this match was the pick of the lot. A fiery encounter which has produced some corkers over the last few years. Harlequins were able to field pretty much a full strength starting team with Marcus Smith returning to the squad for the first time this season, admittedly having to field a much weaker bench than they would like to with numerous injuries and Sarries could do much the same with Ben Earl, Lucio Cinti and JMG returning to the matchday 23. The Stoop was stomping and chomping at the bit for a derby match – SW London v N London. Prior to the match kicking off, you could already sense the excitement and tension in the air. This one has become quite a big game for Harlequins over the years, maybe due to that 2024 Showdown when they had their pants pulled down by a ruthless Saracens attack and got thrashed by 50+. No doubt that Quins fans would take every delight in any Saracens error or mistake, and vice-versa. What an entertaining match this one would be.

Kick Off and 1st Half

And so we kicked off, Saracens seemingly playing into the glaring sun (more on this later…) and the game couldn’t really have got off to a worse start. Nick Tompkins having to come off 7 minutes in with a HIA. Inexplicably the coaching team went for a 6/2 split (why oh why do we keep shooting ourselves in the foot) so this meant Brandon Jackson had to come on and Cinti switch into the 13 role, but we didn’t have any specialist centre cover on the bench. Every single time we adopt the 6/2 split, a back always gets injured early on and we end up having to shuffle everyone around. Murphy’s Law, I believe that is called.
Quins took immediate advantage of our misfortunes and scored thanks to a neat little move from Marcus Smith, dancing his way past Burke and had the momentum to get over the line despite a good tackle from Riccioni. Conversion was nailed and it was already 7-0 with only 10 minutes played. What followed was a game of kick-tennis and territory game that ended with a almost-schoolboy dropped ball from, no other than Owen Farrell. Whether it was nerves or the sunlight that got the better of him, I don’t know. This gifted Quins a handy tactical position from the scrum and they could launch an attack on the sarries line. Luckily our much improved maul defence managed to salvage the situation and we could clear our lines. Huge sigh of relief. Saracens did get some pressure in the Harlequins 22 thanks to great breakdown work from Tom Willis (is there anything that man cannot do?!) but after a poor decision to kick to the corner instead of taking the 3, we came away with sweet nothing.

Saracens have always been a team who could pull off some absolute first phase brilliance. We are known for it. Be it off the scrum or lineout, we do produce some stunning tries or moves straight from the set piece, and today was no exception. Top players always bounce back following a mistake or mishap, and that is exactly what Owen Farrell did. On 26 minutes following a scrum, Faz produced an excellent swivel, the deception lines from Burke and Jackson were lovely and this left Cinti to run a hard line and cut straight through the Quins midfield like a hot knife through butter. The switch pass from him to Burke was perfection and he could outpace Tyrone Green and run under the posts. 7-7 and game on. Straight from the restart there were some heated exchanges, with Willis thundering into Cunningham-South (battle of the titans) and the former knocking-on, gifting Quins a scrum on our 22 line. Following some handbags and a small scuffle, the decision was overturned and Saracens were awarded a penalty. Seems Quins had started the scuffle, so we couldn’t complain! A few minutes after, Quins thought they had a 2nd try from a Saracens scrum that had gone wrong, as Marcus Smith dotted down under the posts. However the ball had squirted out the tunnel after Van-Zyl had fed it in, so the scrum should’ve actually been reset. Very poor call from the touch judge, can’t really blame the referee as he was on the other side but the touch judge really should’ve done better. From the reset scrum, we collapsed it and Quins had a simple penalty. 3 points and a 10-7 lead at half time for Harlequins courtesy of Marcus Smith. We could perhaps thank our lucky stars we weren’t further behind, the scoreline was not an accurate reflection of the game so far.

2nd Half

Once again things could not have gone any worse from the kick off. Just 35 seconds in, there was perhaps miscommunication in the Saracens backfield and Fergus Burke couldn’t regather a high ball. It fell neatly at the feet of Tyrone Green who hacked through and could regather and score under the posts. 17-7 and the game now in danger of slipping away from Sarries. Harlequins were pulling out a very Saracens-esque performance (ie Wolfpack defence circa 2013/2014) and were shutting us down at every single opportunity. Front row substitutions came on for both teams, which didn’t really improve the situation at scrumtime for us. Increduously from our perspective, it took until the 62nd minute to bring on the likes of Olamide Sodeke, Harry Wilson and Juan-Martin Gonzalez who would’ve been exactly what we needed so much earlier in the game. It took until the 64th minute or so to finally breach the Quins defence. A nice out-the-back move from Farrell allowed Max Malins to find a whole and he exploited it well, offloading to Brandon Jackson. Following a couple of phases, Owen Farrell produced a pinpoint kick to find an unmarked Ben Earl on the wing who could dot down untouched. 17-14 and we were right back in the game.

Regrettably despite consistent pressure we couldn’t find a way through to either get 3 or 5 points and following another awful attempt at a regather, we were penalised just outside the 22 for an offside offense. Marcus Smith notched the 3 pointer on 81 minutes and the game was done. 20-14 to Harlequins the final score and we were lucky to even take 1 point from this one.

Breakdown and Review

Aerial Battle – simply dominated by Harlequins. Max Malins had a terrible game with respect to the high ball, to be frank he couldn’t catch a cold let alone a ball in that match. Isgro and Murley were everywhere and the Quins tactic of high balls and challenging our back 3 worked a treat for them. We will have to fix this ASAP ahead of next weekend’s game against Sale who have the best aerial back 3 in the Premiership by quite a long way. Brandon Jackson looked good when he came on, but we missed players like Tobias Elliott and Roti Segun who are more explosive and can break tackles for fun.

Scrum – I think we were very unlucky with this area. The referee seemed to take an instant dislike to our front row and penalised wherever he could. I will say this only goes up to a certain point, we should’ve been a lot smarter in our scrummaging. This seems to have been an issue for the season now, the quality of our front row is simply not good enough.

Lineout – not much to say on this, we miss Maro. Simple as. Lineout will fix itself once Maro is back.

Half-Backs – needless to say, Fergus Burke had a day to forget, as did IvZ. Bringing on Charlie Bracken on 79 minutes was an insulting as it was stupid. I think Burke should be starting at 10 with Charlie Bracken inside him and Farrell an option off the bench as he can cover 10, 12 or even 13 if needs be. If the centres can stay fit for longer than a couple of weeks at a time, that would be really helpful which leads nicely onto my final point…

Injuries and Match Fitness – a topic which I think has been playing on many of our minds of late. What on earth is going on with our injury list at the minute? Half the squad seem to be carrying niggles/injuries or are unavailable. Currently for centre options we have:

-            Olly Hartley – injured.

-            Sam Spink – injured (all the time, it seems.)

-            Alex Lozowski – injured.

-            Nick Tompkins – mandatory standdown due to positive HIA sustained v Quins.

-            Cameron Hutchinson – short-term injury cover, don’t even know if he’s fit or not.

-            Elliot Daly – injured.

-            Lucio Cinti – fit.

-            Owen Farrell - fit

That list speaks for itself. I admit the last 3 are utility backs but for such a key position we have very limited depth now.

I admit this report has been more of a rant, but it’s getting infuriating to see us making the same mistakes week in week out and not learning. I only hope we can up the ante fast ahead of the Sale game and Maro’s return to training and matches will help.

Harlequins v Saracens Report
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Date: 13/10/2025 11:56

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Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: saracensfan62 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/10/2025 12:33

As you can probably tell by the tone of my report, I was highly unimpressed by the performance that some of the players put in on Sunday. What should be happening in theory is not translating to practice. Isiekwe is a crucial option at the lineout and excellent all round the field, plus he has some of the best hands in the squad. Tizard however just seems to have gone into a shell.
Understandably Andy O-C struggled. Starting him for this game was a bold move, and it didn't pay off. I cannot imagine how difficult that must've been for him to return to the ground a year after (pretty much to the day) where he sustained that horrific injury. I think Sodeke at lock and Isiekwe at 6 would've been a better move.
Oh well lots to learn from ahead of the Sale game.

Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 13/10/2025 20:13

Thanks James - report much better than the performance!
Onward and upward as they say!

Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 13/10/2025 20:26

Don’t think the scrum was that bad, we may have been one down on the penalty count and the lineouts were pretty even.
Burke was good ball in hand. We struggle against committed physical teams without a powerful 6, Earl and AOC are pretty similar and it puts too much onus on Willis.

Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: tigersimon (IP Logged)
Date: 14/10/2025 08:08

Nice read.

I do agree bringing Charlie Bracken on at that point in the game was insulting.

6:2 and Murphy’s law - with versatility in Faz, Cinti, Tomkins, Malins, Burke and even Earl is it such a bad thing in theory? Obviously in practice with Tomkins going off early it didn’t work out!

Lineout - IMO JG is a far better lineout thrower than TD.

Scrum - Time to play Street or Tuimauga on the TH?

Thoughts on using Wilson in the Row and Odekeke at 6?
To me it should be the other way round!

Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: #wolfpack1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/10/2025 09:07

I’m as keen as anyone to see more of Charlie this season, but his very very late appearance was an inevitability once NT went off after about 5 mins. We had to keep a back in reserve in case another one went down.

I agree that VZs box kicking was very problematic for us at the weekend, but leaving him on and keeping Charlie warming the bench was the only course of action.

I know the coaches love our 4-8 options and want to cram as many into a match day squad as possible, but I’m afraid the 6-2 split has worked against us every single time. They’re going to have to start leaving someone out to get another back on the bench. In any event, it’s not like we ever get any benefit from the extra forward - we don’t seem to be able to increase our physicality at the back of games. There is no benefit to the 6-2 split for us. Please stop it

Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: tigersimon (IP Logged)
Date: 14/10/2025 09:49

Wolfpack,

Yes understand CB had to be held back because of NT’s early exit.

But it was pointless sending him on in the 80th minute!

Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: TommyKentish (IP Logged)
Date: 14/10/2025 10:52

Quote:
tigersimon
Nice read.
I do agree bringing Charlie Bracken on at that point in the game was insulting.

6:2 and Murphy’s law - with versatility in Faz, Cinti, Tomkins, Malins, Burke and even Earl is it such a bad thing in theory? Obviously in practice with Tomkins going off early it didn’t work out!

Lineout - IMO JG is a far better lineout thrower than TD.

Scrum - Time to play Street or Tuimauga on the TH?

Thoughts on using Wilson in the Row and Odekeke at 6?
To me it should be the other way round!

Wilson has consistently been picked in the row over both Isiekwe and Sodeke, he must be a mean scrummager! Other than that I can’t imagine their roles change much whether they’re played at lock/6.

Tuimauga got a beating in the scrum against Fischetti in the PRC and since been unavailable. Fischetti incidentally hasn’t looked great in the scrum when I’ve watched him since then. Street was injured but I do hope he’s back soon, Riccioni needs more back up.

JG is a better lineout thrower but he did miss a couple when he came on but either way JG is one of the best lineout throwers (if not the best) in the world. Dan will get better with more minutes.

Re: Harlequins v Saracens Report
Posted by: PaulHerox (IP Logged)
Date: 15/10/2025 11:55

I think it is an excellent report and if anything you did well to rant so little.

The first 25 minutes and much of that half was a reversion to the mean of slowed down ruck ball and kicking it away which is infuriating after the first two games.
Quins came with a good game plan (the same one they've used for the last two games against us so we obviously had planned for ...) and executed brilliantly helped by a few of our players having possibly the worst games of their careers but we just had no answers on field.

The reality is the first two games probably flattered us and whilst Quins played really well the brutal truth is they really didn't have to do much to beat us. That is concerning.
I'm not sure I'm seeing the quick fixes that some others do. Maro alone won't magically sort the lineout nor Daly improve the situation at FullBack although that was undoubtedly one of the worst games I have ever seen Malins play.
Having centres back might help but we're not talking about the return of Brad Barritt but a few players who have never really done it for us and are potential more than delivery right now.

One negative that almost gives me hope is that of the back three at least two; Malins and Bracken are ordinarily very good under the highball and whilst I don't understand why all three had such poor games there, weather? pressure? I don't think weakness there is likely to be a feature of our team going forward.

I'm sure I miss lots of the intricacies of the front row but to me the Baxter/Riccioni "battle" just looked like a really great competition. I agree 100% with the above that we simply have to start limiting Riccioni's minutes even if Street isn't available. Back Clarey and accept that those extra minutes Riccioni doesn't play are an investment in him not being absolutely knackered or broken come half way through the season.

The potential issue of being so reliant on Willis and the limited wat we use him has been obvious since last season. He's an incredible totemic figure but our reliance on him is a problem.
There are obvious solutions to mitigate this but we seem to prefer using him as Billy 2.0.

No idea what we will do for Sale but I think I'd like to see Wilson starting again. I'm not sure the coaches would start Itoje at 6 anymore but might that be an option.
I certainly hope that the back three are ready for what will come their way with Ford feeding Roebuck, Carpenter and Reed.

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