Bath's foreign legion


Not a Lion.
By PG Tips
August 18 2013

Seeing the contribution in today’s match by players from beyond these shores: Perenise, Koster, Houston, Fa’osiliva got me thinking . Over the past 15 years many “overseas” players have graced our team: all adding their special something to an increasingly diverse heritage. Some were here for a mere blink of an eye as injury cover, others played a major role in successes (Frederico Mendez & Dan Lyle of the 1998 Heineken Cup triumph come to mind). Yet more became crowd favourites for their character and demeanour (Ignacio Fernandes- Lobbe, David Bory) or for specific incidents. Among the latter I recall Justin Harrison’s “Bambi & back to the fray” moment, Joe Maddock’s St George’s Day hat trick, Butch James’s last gasp winning try against Leicester. And- who can forget, Premiership survival thanks to Elvis Seviali’i? If memory serves me well, players from 12 different nations have turned out in BBW over the last 15 years, developing a tradition that goes back to German international Peter Heindorff in the 1960s.

If I am correct, we have played nationals of 12 countries in the professional era. These are: France, Italy, Romania, New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, Argentina, Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, United States & Zimbabwe. Perhaps my memory lets me down, but I cannot recall any from Canada, Poland, Russia, Spain or Portugal- where I know other Premiership clubs have sourced talent.

So: I am sure other posters have their favourites – both moments and players. I would like to suggest that we select a team of players from the last 15 years who played for Bath, but would not be eligible for British Lions selection (oops: should be British & Irish Lions: buck up, PG!). I will give you my selected team below:

1. Filise (Tonga) 2. Mendez (Argentina) 3. Perenise (Samoa) 4. Fernandez-Lobbe (Argentina) 5. Harrison (Australia) 6. Watson (S Africa) 7. Louw (S Africa) 8. Lyle (USA) 9. Claassens (S Africa) 10. James (S Africa) 11. Seviali’I (Samoa) 12. Fleck (S Africa) 13. Berne Australia 14. Maddock ( N Zealand) 15. Tsimba (Zimbabwe) Bench: Galasso, Dixon, Ion, H Louw, Salvi, Preston, Fuimaono Sapolu, Bory Harsh on Jonny Fa'amatuainu, Isaac Feau'nati, Warwick Waugh & Julian Gardner? What about Isaac Feau'nati, Hentie Martens, Nicky Little or Frikkie Welsh? What about our current group of Argentine internationals?

Perhaps you would like to contribute your XV & subs? Mine has used players from 8 countries: I ask that you chose from no fewer than 6 to make for an interesting mix.

Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Comeonmylovers.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 09:37

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Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: exbathballboy (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 12:37

What about Willie Numan?

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 12:47

Johnny F lining up Molly Malone for his first visit back to the Rec also stands out.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Robbinho (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 13:44

Have you combined Julian Salvi and Angus Gardner? Jon Preston was another import we didn't perhaps see the best off due to injury.

And who can forget Kevin Dalzell, Heinrich Kok or Dan Dorsey? Most of us, I guess!

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Bri (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 13:47

Graham Dawe

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 16:38

Nice try Bri

(Sm6)

but last time I looked, Cornwall (Vic Roberts, Richard Sharp, Phil Vickery) were eligible for the Lions!

PG

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: johnnyf (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 17:16

What a fscinating post PG Tips.
You are to be commended for your ingenuity and I admire your choice of team.
Will have to give this further thought!

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Robbinho (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 17:56

German Llanes!

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: TCM2007 (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2013 20:38

Isn't Dan Lyle eligible for the Lions by residency?

Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Mr Frivolous (IP Logged)
Date: 19/08/2013 16:17

Impressive list PG, not many left to remember, I know this is nitpicking even by this forum's standard but is the Gardner you refer to the same as Angus Gardiner (Exc Crusaders)?

Top post PG!

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 19/08/2013 17:17

GB it is!

Angus Gardner it is (I think Oz had a Julian gardner of a previous vintage: showing my age!).

Have you a team to offer?

PG

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Ladyboy (IP Logged)
Date: 20/08/2013 09:20

IIRC Angus Gardner played for England A a couple of times which would have made him Lions eligible... great player.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Mr Frivolous (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 12:47

You havent left many out PG! Despite your guidence on a minimum of six it got me thinking to how few nations I could use, the answer is 4 courtesy of the boks. Even using our Kiwi friends still get to four nations as unstuck at Hooker

Bit worried about the bench half backs!

1 Guinazu (Arg)
2 Mendez (Arg)
3 Orlandi (Arg)
4 Lobbe (Arg)
5 Llanes (Arg)
6 Flo (SA)
7 Salvi (Aus)
8 Watson (SA)
9 Classy (SA)
10 Butch (SA)
11 Human (SA)
12 Flecky (SA)
13 Frikke (SA)
14 Carraro (Aus)
15 Agulla (Arg)

16 P Dixon (Zim)
17 H Kok (SA)
18 Lorne Ward (SA)
19 N Koster (SA)
20 H Louw (SA)
21 M Malone (Aus)
22 H Martens (SA)

Also am sad enough to have trawled through the back programs as I was sure we must have had an Italian only to find two!

Ramiro Pez & Pietro Travagali

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: gaz909 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 13:48

I'd forgotten about Willie Human, what a great name to have on the back of your shirt?

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 14:15

Mark Gabey was an Aussie, wasn't he? But with an English wife so had a UK passport. Incidentally, he was at the Bris match on Saturday.

Of course we had US Eagles lock John Van Der Giessen briefly last year too.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Never In Doubt (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 15:28

Most random must be Tim Brasher (Aussie Rugby League International) who had retired was in Europe for a skiing holiday. I think he was offered a contract in League and in between was World Cup cover for us.

He looked knackered (both from inuries and lack of fitness) most of the time but wouldn't give an inch and tackled like a maniac.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: dr.bath1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 15:47

Tim Brasher... Great shout. I remember watching him when we played away at Wasps. He did well. As you say, tackled hard. I don't think he let us down at all during his few appearences.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Mike the Taxi (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 15:48

Graham Dawe always played like he was from another planet!

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: grubbyhat1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 16:07

Hugh Perret?
Here

I do not remember him, did he ever play?

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Ladyboy (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2013 16:23

Salesi Finau... whose hands (or lack thereof) arguably cost us a place in the Heienken Cup final in 2006.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Nomad_Wasp (IP Logged)
Date: 23/08/2013 15:26

Elvis has cropped up at Twyford Avenue, apparently been training with us as backline cover.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Nerdish Obsessive (IP Logged)
Date: 24/08/2013 19:33

Shaun Berne, what a player!.

Berneeeeee!.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: exbathballboy (IP Logged)
Date: 28/08/2013 22:20

David Bory and Joe Maddock were the outstanding wingers when I was ballboying then for Bath. They could create something out of nothing. Frikkie Welsh was close to that to.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: @Hydor18 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/08/2013 22:33

Warwick Waugh. 7ft of utter rubbish.

Re: Bath's foreign legion
Posted by: Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/08/2013 08:36

Quote:
Golds_Glee_Club
Warwick Waugh. 7ft of utter rubbish.

Not even redeemed by his fruit cakes being inexplicably sold in the club shop?

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