TEAMS UP! Fizz Buzz? Bath v Wasps
Rokodoguni: strike?
By P G Tips
April 30 2019
Having failed to fizz in defeat at Sale, Bath must next silence Wasps buzz with victory at the Rec. Currently 7th place, Wasps have buzzed only in fits and starts this campaign, slumping to defeat at home last Saturday to Saracens. Both teams will be working out their chances of playoff and Champions Cup positions but while calculating, need to be alert so when their number comes up, they seize the moment. So whose head will be clearest and who will win on Saturday?
Experienced Fizzbuzzers know that what starts as a bit of fun can quickly turn to frustration, especially if concentration slips. When the game gets serious it is vital to number up as Wasps found to their cost last week. Lack of focus and precision in defence cost them two early tries. Then, having threatened a comeback with Sopoanga’s try from Simpson’s opportunism, lamely allowed Will Skelton to gallop through a gaping hole for Saracens’ third try. The visitors only had to kick their penalties in the second half to swat the home team aside.
As Bath also snatched defeat from the jaws of victory at Gloucester, followed by a limp, error strewn display of frustrated toil at Sale, the sides appear well matched – not just in table positions, but in fallibility. Wasps will be keen to recover their season with a late run to the top 4. Having won recently at Sandy Park and shown commendable enterprise at times against Saracens, they will feel they have the strike force to do it. However, their selection will be hampered by injury. In addition to long -term absentees Robson, Young, Willis and Campagnaro, they may have to do without both Launchbury and Gaskell in their second row. They will also be without the luckless Jimmy Gopperth who broke his thumb in Saturday’s match after months out. So it will be up to Sopoaga to prompt the counter attack talents of Daley, Marcus Watson and Leroux. Buzzing together they are capable of plenty of venom in attack.
Todd Blackadder has pleaded for Bath to ‘salvage some pride’ in their last two fixtures. Mathematically they can still scrape into the playoffs, although that seems unlikely unless there is a dramatic form reversal for several clubs. It would almost certainly require try bonus points, so Bath may find themselves calculating scores and counting every point in hope. A Champions Cup earning 6th place looks more realistic, but even that means winning against two traditionally pedigree sides fallen on hard times, who will be equally desperate to restore reputation.
Writing about the Sale v Bath match, former Bath great Stuart Barnes commented ‘Friday's fiasco was an embarrassment for the club game'. Today’s generation of players may not listen to him, but many Bath supporters, desperate for the sustained success of his era would dearly love to see the burning will to win that he and his teammates regularly displayed.
With Watson and Rokodoguni now fit, Bath too have the strike force to get the Rec buzzing. To do that will require the pack to dominate Wasps for the majority of the match –Ellis, Underhill and Mercer especially must sting their opponents repeatedly in tackle and at breakdown. They also need more fizz from halfback. Batty and Charteris are both recovereed from injury so more front five options are available than for a few weeks- with the exception of Nathan Catt, whose sciatic nerve trouble has returned, ruling him out of this weekend's action.
It is tempting to demand the players just “give it a lash”, forget the calculations and play from the heart in response to Blackadder’s call. Errors in execution though have been the team’s downfall in so many matches this season, so the priority has to be precision in taking chances and concentration in defence.
“Fizzing” is great to watch when it works, but to climb the table Bath will need to play the percentages and keep cool, not get drunk with the first success. If they don’t cut out the errors, the scoreboard can flip as quickly as the numbers in a game of fizz –buzz.
Possible Teams:
Bath:, Obano, Dunn, Lahiff, Attwood, Stooke, Ellis, Underhill, Mercer. Chudley (Capt.), Burns.Cokanasiga,Roberts, Joseph,Rokodoguni. Watson.
Replacements: v Rooyen, Walker, Perenise, Ewels, Reid. Cook, Priestland, McConnochie.
Wasps: Zhvania, Johnson (Capt), Brookes, Rowlands, Myall, Shields, Carr, Hughes. Simpson, Sopoaga. Bassett, Lovabalavu, Daley, Watson. Le Roux
Replacements: Cruse, McIntyre, Cooper-Woolley, Matthews, Morris, Hampson,Miller , de Jongh.
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2019:05:15:19:16:22 by P G Tips.
Prediction: 65 - 64 to Bath.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
Now corrected.
PG
I am expecting a tight game, mistakes a plenty and some nervous players and supporters. Top European rugby is the prize at hand, and a win for either of us would go a long way to getting that! Now just have to count down the work days!

Quote:Optimist
On current form and general productivity Ruaridh would be first choice wing for me. Possibly even first back on the teamsheet.
+1
BATH supporter since 1975
Adopted players:
2015/6 Tom Homer
2016/7 Matt Banahan
2017/8 Jeff Williams
2018/9 Victor Delmas
2019/20 Semesa Rokoduguni
2020/21 Will Stuart
Quote:jayeatmanQuote:Optimist
On current form and general productivity Ruaridh would be first choice wing for me. Possibly even first back on the teamsheet.
+1
Crikey, did you really get Jeff Williams and Victor Delmas in the last 2 years? Is that a record for fewest games played by adopted players over the same period?! I think that you should be seeded next year and get to choose from a pool of actual first team players...
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
Quote:Optimist
On current form and general productivity Ruaridh would be first choice wing for me. Possibly even first back on the teamsheet.
Have to agree, as a decent 15 he can catch kick and is quick and elusive on his feet. I would like to see if he could hack it at 10. I know its a risk but who else has his skills and could play there if it all goes bang!

Quote:BathMatt53Quote:jayeatmanQuote:Optimist
On current form and general productivity Ruaridh would be first choice wing for me. Possibly even first back on the teamsheet.
+1
Crikey, did you really get Jeff Williams and Victor Delmas in the last 2 years? Is that a record for fewest games played by adopted players over the same period?! I think that you should be seeded next year and get to choose from a pool of actual first team players...
Yeah, but I got Banners the year before, so I'm cool.
What's happened to your beard?
Quote:shipwrecked
as a decent 15 he can catch kick and is quick and elusive on his feet. I would like to see if he could hack it at 10. I know its a risk but who else has his skills and could play there if it all goes bang!
I think asking McConnochie to play 10 is too much of a stretch, but it does tie in with a point I've made before. In this country, we automatically send the fast-twitch players out to the back 3. Your adoptee, Darren Atkins, played as a 10 at club and, I think, school. As soon as he went into the Academy he was pushed to wing/fullback, based on the fact that he was lightning quick. If Beauden Barrett were English, he'd be a wing or full-back. Darren ended up at 10 in a game last season (can't fully recall the circumstances) and gave a very good little cameo performance. As a wing, he's had his pace compromised by the need to bulk up. I think he's also suffering a bit at wing/15, because he seems uncomfortable with some of the heavy-duty physical aspects of those positions. I think he might have been a great, mercurial 10, with the pace to cause the defending back-row some real nightmares. Compare that to Priestland who has about half the pace of Harry Thacker.
Quote:Bath Supporter Jack
Is the picture of you?
What's happened to your beard?
Bruce didn't like it. Too scratchy I gather.
I think you are being very kind
Quote:OptimistQuote:shipwrecked
as a decent 15 he can catch kick and is quick and elusive on his feet. I would like to see if he could hack it at 10. I know its a risk but who else has his skills and could play there if it all goes bang!
I think asking McConnochie to play 10 is too much of a stretch, but it does tie in with a point I've made before. In this country, we automatically send the fast-twitch players out to the back 3. Your adoptee, Darren Atkins, played as a 10 at club and, I think, school. As soon as he went into the Academy he was pushed to wing/fullback, based on the fact that he was lightning quick. If Beauden Barrett were English, he'd be a wing or full-back. Darren ended up at 10 in a game last season (can't fully recall the circumstances) and gave a very good little cameo performance. As a wing, he's had his pace compromised by the need to bulk up. I think he's also suffering a bit at wing/15, because he seems uncomfortable with some of the heavy-duty physical aspects of those positions. I think he might have been a great, mercurial 10, with the pace to cause the defending back-row some real nightmares. Compare that to Priestland who has about half the pace of Harry Thacker.
Hadnt really thought about this but I think youre spot on! I believe Barrett started as a 15 for the All Black junior levels too. Just goes to show.
(Side note: given Thackers versatility Im surprised he hasnt had more of a chance with Eddies England, especially with the big Joe and Billy switch and Nowell being pseudo-considered at flanker)
Bath Rugby team to face Wasps
15. Anthony Watson
14. Joe Cokanasiga
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Jamie Roberts
11. Ruaridh McConnochie
10. Freddie Burns
9. Will Chudley
1. Beno Obano
2. Tom Dunn
3. Max Lahiff
4. Dave Attwood
5. Charlie Ewels (c)
6. Tom Ellis
7. Sam Underhill
8. Zach Mercer
Replacements
16. Ross Batty
17. Jacques van Rooyen
18. Sam Nixon
19. Levi Douglas
20. Elliott Stooke
21. Kahn Fotualii
22. Alex Davies
23. Max Wright
PG
14 Marcus Watson (27)
13 Juan de Jongh (47)
12 Gaby Lovobalavu (33)
11 Josh Bassett (103)
10 Rob Miller (100)
9 Joe Simpson (255)
1 Simon McIntyre (157)
2 Tom Cruse (61)
3 Kieran Brookes (16)
4 Joe Launchbury (138)
5 James Gaskell (107)
6 Brad Shields (13)
7 Nizaam Carr (35)
8 Nathan Hughes (123)
Replacements
16 Tommy Taylor (46)
17 Ben Harris (43)
18 Jake Cooper-Woolley (129)
19 Will Rowlands (74)
20 Ashley Johnson (185)
21 Craig Hampson (31)
22 Lima Sopoaga (23)
23 Ross Neal (11)
“This machine kills fascists”
Woody Guthrie's guitar.
It works both ways though, and I think it is wrong that Watson comes straight in for homer who I think has been playing well. (unless he is injured) If anyone should have been dropped from the back 3 on form it should have been jc. Also cook played OK when he was in the side and now is playing behind 2 players who I don't think have done much to justify their place.
I'm expecting an away win on Sunday, the wasps side looks strong to me with launchberry back and with a bit of an upturn in form recently. I cannot wait for this season to end (again)
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
A shame once more that Green hasn't come in as Chudley has definitely gone off the boil for me and Green deserves another shot now the season is very much over for us.
Come on you Bath!.............sigh...........

FLAP
Quote:gaz59
Their bench is seriously better than ours. If we are not 15 + points up with 15 to go it will be a very tough watch and even that might not be enough
I don't agree with the first sentence. The second is taken as read no matter who we have on the field.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
16. Ross Batty v Taylor
17. Jacques van Rooyen v Harris
18. Sam Nixon v Cooper Woolley
19. Levi Douglas v Rowlands
20. Elliott Stooke v Johnson
21. Kahn Fotualii v Hampson
22. Alex Davies v Sopoanga
23. Max Wright v Neal
I'd take Wasps' Taylor, Harris, Cooper-Woolley, Rowlands and Sopoanga easily over ours. Kahn, depends which year turns up. I rate Max Wright but Neal is 6' 5" and no slouch centre. The only clear winner we have is Stooke but even then Johnson is not a bad back row bench option
Quote:gaz59
Really Bath Matt?
16. Ross Batty v Taylor
17. Jacques van Rooyen v Harris
18. Sam Nixon v Cooper Woolley
19. Levi Douglas v Rowlands
20. Elliott Stooke v Johnson
21. Kahn Fotualii v Hampson
22. Alex Davies v Sopoanga
23. Max Wright v Neal
I'd take Wasps' Taylor, Harris, Cooper-Woolley, Rowlands and Sopoanga easily over ours. Kahn, depends which year turns up. I rate Max Wright but Neal is 6' 5" and no slouch centre. The only clear winner we have is Stooke but even then Johnson is not a bad back row bench option
Oh hold on I was looknig at PGTs list:
Replacements: v Rooyen, Walker, Perenise, Ewels, Reid. Cook, Priestland, McConnochie.
Yes now I actually look at the actual bench, theirs is better

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Adopted Player 2018/19 Ross Batty
Adopted Player 2019/20 Jack Davies
Adopted Player 2020/21 Cam Redpath
Adopted Player 2021/22 Darren Atkins
Adopted Player 2022/23 Gabriel Hamer-Webb
Adopted Player 2023/24 Tom Carr-Smith
Adopted Player 2024/25 Max Ojomoh
"AN OUNCE OF ACTION IS WORTH A TON OF THEORY"
FRIEDRICH ENGELS
Just don't like the mstch ups on the bench to be confident it will be us. We need a performance over 80+ minutes that we haven't yet seen this season but it is there somewhere
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Doesn't that compromise the bench picks as well?

Quote:Old Bath Tub
My prediction, Bath by 8, 4 point win and nothing for the Wasps !
Got part of it right !

Adopted Player 2018/19 Ross Batty
Adopted Player 2019/20 Jack Davies
Adopted Player 2020/21 Cam Redpath
Adopted Player 2021/22 Darren Atkins
Adopted Player 2022/23 Gabriel Hamer-Webb
Adopted Player 2023/24 Tom Carr-Smith
Adopted Player 2024/25 Max Ojomoh
"AN OUNCE OF ACTION IS WORTH A TON OF THEORY"
FRIEDRICH ENGELS

Quote:shipwrecked
Except the bench Gaz, the subs looked pretty good to me!
Gaskell's injury I reckon helped us but dead right our bench played well above expectations and like Zach said way above last week
Douglas especially looked good
