GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.


Richards: start?
By PG Tips
November 22 2022

Bath go west this weekend to meet Exeter in their final Premiership Rugby Cup Group A match. The demise of Worcester has deprived Bath of their 4th Pool fixture, but with 2 defeats and a negative points difference of 43, Bath cannot qualify for the next round. Interest therefore will centre on whether Bath can build on recent improvements in performance, clues in selection to upcoming Premiership and Challenge Cup matches and which players put their hands up to be chosen for those fixtures.  

This little loved tournament has been through several changes of format since its introduction in 2014, often confusing the fans. It is intended to give game time to younger players in Premiership squads. Many clubs therefore regard it as a development competition, although there are no rules governing player selection. To some clubs it may be the only chance of silverware, so is taken seriously. For others it is an opportunity for senior players returning from injury, or to blood promising Academy members. Bath’s approach to this match may well be governed by the 5 forthcoming December fixtures- 3 in the Premiership and 2 in the Challenge Cup. Given the club’s lengthy injury list, I expect a callow side, based largely on youth.

 

Johann van Graan has predicted “wholesale changes” stating that “There will be very little of the players involved against the Barbarians in the squad for Exeter….there is a 23 being prepared as a different group, there will be a different coaching group taking the side at the weekend.” With lock resources thinning fast Quinn Roux and Tom Ellis, both injured against the BaaBaas will probably sit this one out, but could there be a return for Will Spencer or Mike Williams who were targeting the end of November for comebacks? If not, Michael Etete, Ewan Richards and JJ Tonks are likely to be in the frame.

 

Another threadbare position is on the wing, so step forward Gabe Goss, Darren Atkins and maybe Sam Harris to cover the back three. The fly half slot should fall to Billy Searle (if he is still with us) or George Worboys, while a place may be found for the talented Jamie Shillcock.

 

Whatever the selection, the aim must be continuing to build momentum and confidence. Exeter is a tough place to play, in all senses, so the coaches will be looking for confirmation that their rebuild plan is on track. They will want to see 80 minutes of cohesion, guts and skill. And hoping for a respite from injuries.

 

Possible Bath Team:

Stanley, Doughty, Jonker, Etete, Richards, Staddon, Cowan, Tonks. Lock, Searle. Atkins, Wright, Hennessy, Goss. Harris.

Replacements: Kirk, Stewart, Verden, Williams. Merigan. Carr-Smith, Worboys. Shillcock.

 

 

 

GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
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Date: 22/11/2022 11:19

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Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: dcsh (IP Logged)
Date: 23/11/2022 14:10

Spare a thought for Exeter in the build up to this, they have a Premiership match the night before! While one wouldn’t expect any players to double up it will surely be a busy week for coaching and support staff.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 23/11/2022 16:34

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dcsh
....they have a Premiership match the night before!

Can we pleeeeease be the team in the mismatch that comes out with a 60-20 stuffing in our favour. I mean, we've seen plenty the other way round (albeit some of those scores have been when we've had a close-to-first-choice team out).

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: The Bear (IP Logged)
Date: 23/11/2022 17:17

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dcsh
Spare a thought for Exeter in the build up to this, they have a Premiership match the night before! While one wouldn’t expect any players to double up it will surely be a busy week for coaching and support staff.

That is insane. How can it be scheduled as such!?

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: charlieboa (IP Logged)
Date: 23/11/2022 19:15

Stanley, griffin, staddon, lock, harris not selected for the uni today.

Imagine we will see the majority of them in the 23 at the weekend

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 23/11/2022 20:26

Quote:
The Bear
Quote:
dcsh
Spare a thought for Exeter in the build up to this, they have a Premiership match the night before! While one wouldn’t expect any players to double up it will surely be a busy week for coaching and support staff.

That is insane. How can it be scheduled as such!?

Agreed, absolute shambles.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/11/2022 10:22

Agree its a bit odd but Quins played a decent team vs BaaBaas then a match the following day against Sale and had their International missing as well. The Prem cup is an A league game by another name so I don't really see that its a huge problem as long as all teams regard it in the same way - would they have played a different prem cup team if the game had been midweek instead?

Didn't Sarries also play on the Friday and Saturday (or Sunday) recently under the same circumstances?

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: B4thB4ck (IP Logged)
Date: 24/11/2022 10:46

I would accept the congestion more if this was say, March and we were emerging from a long, icy winter where several fixtures have been postponed. Disappointing to have this in November IMO.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: Mike the Taxi (IP Logged)
Date: 24/11/2022 13:24

Sarries - Schmarries! I remember. many moons ago, watching the rugby results being read out on Saturday evening TV, when the announcer read out the Bath result (a win), then, about ten teams down the list, doing a double-take on reading Bath (2nds?) result (another win)!

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP.
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 25/11/2022 12:08

Team's Up! This is a nice group:

Bath Rugby: 15 Sam Harris, 14 Gabe Goss, 13 Max Wright, 12 Piers Francis, 11 Darren Atkins, 10 George Worboys, 9 Tom Carr-Smith; 1 Archie Stanley, 2 Tom Doughty, 3 Kieran Verden, 4 Dave Attwood, 5 Ewan Richards, 6 JJ Tonks, 7 Ethan Staddon, 8 Wesley White.

Impact players: 16 John Stewart, 17 Arthur Cordwell, 18 Archie Griffin, 19 Michael Etete, 20 Will Spencer, 21 Murdoch Lock, 22 Jordan Venter, 23 Nahum Merigan.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/11/2022 12:12

Good to see a few of the lads back, e.g. Jordan Venter, Will Spencer, Piers Francis

Exeter Chiefs

15 Facundo Cordero
14 Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
13 Zack Wimbush
12 Tom Wyatt
11 Arthur Relton
10 Iwan Jenkins
9 Tom Cairns
8 Greg Fisilau
7 Aidon Davis
6 Rus Tuima
5 Joe Bailey
4 Alfie Bell
3 Josh Iosefa-Scott
2 Jack Innard
1 James Kenny

16 Max Norey
17 Danny Southworth
18 Matt Johnson
19 Cory Teague
20 Santiago Grondona
21 Orson James
22 Shea Cornish
23 Frankie Nowell

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Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: dr.bath1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/11/2022 12:20

With a few returning from injury, we’re showing a bit of depth all of a sudden.

It’s nice to see the likes of Verden, Cordwell, Richards, Staddon, C-S, Worboys, Goss on a team sheet and think of them as more than just Academy prospects. Each have some decent first team experience, not 18 but 20-23yo, now just need to play and push on. Testament to the hard work the Academy have done over recent years to create that conveyer belt of talent .

Think for once in this competition Exeter look the greener, so it’d be lovely to get a confidence boosting win away at Sandy Park. Attwood the perfect captain for such a jaunt.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: charlieboa (IP Logged)
Date: 25/11/2022 13:42

Like that squad- think it could have enough for a win hopefully

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 15:42

Getting humped so far judging by the score.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 15:44

Try Bath

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 15:45

HT 20-10 we play with a gale force behind us!

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 15:53

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CoochieCoo
HT 20-10 we play with a gale force behind us!

According to the Chron, it’s a “gail”.
Wonder which lady that refers to?

PG

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 15:53

Richards scored the try with the clock in red!

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:07

Try Bath Harris 20-15 conversion to come

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:07

20-17 conv good

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:20

YC for Bath Wesley White

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:24

Try Exe 25-17

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:38

Try Bath 25-22

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:39

25-22 conversion not made

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:43

3 mins to go

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:48

FT 25-22 we made too many mistakes and bad decisions.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 16:49

Shame, but can't give teams a 17 point lead in those conditions.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 17:22

Not an important competition, but we had some winning momentum which has now been lost.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 18:26

We should have won that with the team we put out...

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: charlieboa (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2022 19:46

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by
We should have won that with the team we put out...

Agree.

Sounded really poor game management and basics second half based on radio commentary.

No matter what the oppositons schedule and who we put out we just seem unable to win these games.

Hugely frustrating and disappointing- raises question marks over our depth and I think jvg may be quite brutal over the coming months as to who he retains

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: Exeforever (IP Logged)
Date: 27/11/2022 09:58

Don’t be too hard on your players, the weather was bad in the first half when you were playing against the wind and atrocious in the second half with horizontal rain. This made handling well nigh impossible and negated most of the wind advantage in the second half. It could easily have gone either way and as an Exeter supporter I was more relieved than exultant at the final whistle.

I don’t know enough about your squad to evaluate your performance but our side was largely Academy standard with a few experienced players returning from injury; at most 5 of them have seen any first squad action.

Kudos to the Bath supporters who defied the weather forecast to make the trip and could be heard a couple of times in the second half.

Re: GO WEST. EXETER v BATH. PREMIERSHIP RUGBY CUP. TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 29/11/2022 21:34

I managed to watch the replay on the premiership rugby site earlier. Alfie Bell looks like one hell of a prospect, great signing. Fisilau stood out to at 8.

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