MORE OF THE SAME PLEASE: BATH V QUINS
Hill: return?
By Rokobilly
March 28 2025
Should this season end as all of us hope it does, there will undoubtedly be moments we remember with a smile—those key turning points that truly mattered. Small passages of play that gain significance as the season's narrative unfolds.One of those should be François van Wyk's try at The Stoop back in mid-October, before the clocks went back. With a quarter of the game to go, Quins led by 10 and looked in control. A du Toit try got us back within a score, but it was van Wyk's short-range drive in the left-hand corner with two minutes to go that sealed the points.
It was Game 5 of the league season—the difference between Bath being (if you'll forgive the American phrasing) 4-1 rather than 3-2. We went on to smash Sale a week later and entered the Autumn International break top of the table. Five months later, we are still there.
Van Wyk's try felt important at the time. It sealed a third away win from three, for one thing. More importantly, it suggested we could win the arm wrestles—the tight games when we weren’t at our best. None of our first four games had gone to the wire. Perhaps, we mused, the 24-25 vintage Bath had added a bit of extra steel.
Looking back, that first Quins game revealed a theme we've seen time and again this season—not least last Sunday against Gloucester: the 6-2 split and the Bath Bomb. At The Stoop, van Wyk, du Toit, Annett, Hill, and Ewan Richards all arrived on or around the critical hour mark to turn the tide. Quins may have started fastest, but our now-characteristic second-half dominance was already on show.
Quins will need no reminder of that second-half strength. Several of the players they are likely to field on Saturday were at The Rec for the Premiership Cup Quarter Final a month ago, where they were swept away after they had made another fast start. It will be interesting to see how they manage their 23 this time. Bath’s bench strength is no secret, and doubtless opposition coaches are plotting ways to counteract it.
Whatever their approach, Quins won’t lack motivation. Sitting fourth in the league, they are a win behind Tigers in third and just ahead of Glaws, Sale, and Sarries. The playoffs are very much within reach if they finish the season strongly. An impressive away win at Sarries last week was a great start to the run-in.
Quins also have the small matter of a European Champions Cup knockout tie at Saracens next week. Beating Leinster in Dublin is unlikely, but they will surely want to give themselves a shot. Will that impact their selection this week?
Whatever their selection strategy, I expect we'll see Marcus Smith back after a week in the sun. With every passing week, the opportunities to audition for Lions shirts decrease, and he will relish the chance to go head-to-head with Finn.
And what of Bath? More of the same, please.
It speaks volumes about our progress that a comfortable six-try beating of our oldest local rivals was described by many as "satisfactory but a little ring rusty post-Six Nations." Not long ago, we would have given anything just to beat Gloucester 3-0, let alone 42-26.
Another bonus-point win would put us very close to guaranteeing a Top 4 spot and within sight of the Top 2. To that end, I expect more rotation against Pau the following week and a full-strength team for Quins. A few tweaks, perhaps—Underhill and Hill to start? Butt in for Redpath? Sela on the bench instead of Stuart?
One thing I hope has been discussed this week is not giving Quins too much ball in broken play or off poor kicks. Like Bristol and Gloucester, they have the skill set to score from deep and rack up tries quickly. If we have an Achilles’ heel this year, it’s our ability to defend when teams cut loose and we lose our shape. Exhibit A: Bristol at The Rec. Exhibit B: the first half last Sunday.
Rugby, for all its laws, is a simple game at heart, and JVG’s power-based approach reflects that. If we play to our strengths and keep our discipline, we should be just fine.
Let’s hope for another one of those moments to look back on with a smile come season’s end.
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I expect there will be a tweak or two. Thomas du Toit looked a touch rueful after leaving the filed last Sunday so might be missing.
I wonder if Orlando Bailey is ready yet? Finn has to rest one of the next two games, so hopefully he is.
Otherwise, one or two back row rotations should suffice.
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I think we should play our absolute strongest team.......
We can rotate next week against Pau.......
Also we have Harlequin supporting friends coming to visit so a win would be very good!!!
Is tempting to go v strong again and then trust the squad to cover the absence of stuart and finn against pau.
Something like:
Tdt, rmc, mojo, butt, muir, finn, spencer, beno, dunn, tdt, roux, ewels, reid, pepper, alfie
Bench: annett, van wyk, stuart, hill, underhill, coetzee, TCS, redpath
Quote:Not so sure about Du Toit at FB though...Charlieboa1
Something like:
Tdt, rmc, mojo, butt, muir, finn, spencer, beno, dunn, tdt, roux, ewels, reid, pepper, alfie
Bench: annett, van wyk, stuart, hill, underhill, coetzee, TCS, redpath
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Quote:Charlieboa1
Is tempting to go v strong again and then trust the squad to cover the absence of stuart and finn against pau.
Wouldn't disagree with that suggestion, but in doing so we will be pretty much giving away the chance of winning in Pau.
Quote:Which TylerQuote:Not so sure about Du Toit at FB though...Charlieboa1
Something like:
Tdt, rmc, mojo, butt, muir, finn, spencer, beno, dunn, tdt, roux, ewels, reid, pepper, alfie
Bench: annett, van wyk, stuart, hill, underhill, coetzee, TCS, redpath
But if you can sneak him into the team twice though...
Could he rumble in from 60 yds on a kick return?
Quote:OutsideBath
Wouldn't disagree with that suggestion, but in doing so we will be pretty much giving away the chance of winning in Pau.
I don't agree, Bath have enough quality players in multiple positions to be able to rotate / rest and still put out a team more than capable of holding its own. As long as they don't go as light as vs Treviso (who had some brilliant players such as Tommaso Menoncello and Malakai Fekitoa remember) they can compete with most teams in that little Euro comp.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
Quote:OutsideBathQuote:Charlieboa1
Is tempting to go v strong again and then trust the squad to cover the absence of stuart and finn against pau.
Wouldn't disagree with that suggestion, but in doing so we will be pretty much giving away the chance of winning in Pau.
I don't think we would just by resting stuart (which we have to if he plays tomorrow?) and finn?
I would do something like:
Tdg, big Joe, mojo, butt, muir, bailey, spencer, beno, dunn, tdt, malony, ewels, hill, underhill, alfie
Bench: van wyk, kepu, griffin, richards, bayliss, coetzee, TCS, redpath.
Defo think they would have a great chance over in france!
Not suggested a treviso level of change as genuinely think we have a shot at the treble!
Do we just go for pure power eg hill/underhill/ alfie
Bit more balance like hill/ pepper/ alfie
Or really try to counter their breakdown threat with our own with something like underhill or bayliss/pepper/ reid
I’d also give Stuart his rest this week so he can play in Pau and TdT can have that week off but not sure that’s the way things will work out.
Referee: Anthony Woodthorpe
Assistant Referees: James Clarke and Jonathan Healy
TMO: Dean Richards

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1 Beno Obano,
2 Tom Dunn,
3 Will Stuart,
4 Ross Molony,
5 Charlie Ewels,
6 Ted Hill,
7 Miles Reid,
8 Alfie Barbeary,
9 Ben Spencer ©,
10 Finn Russell,
11 Will Muir,
12 Cameron Redpath,
13 Max Ojomoh,
14 Joe Cokanasiga,
15 Tom de Glanville
Replacements:
16 Niall Annett,
17 Francois van Wyk,
18 Thomas du Toit,
19 Guy Pepper,
20 Sam Underhill,
21 Tom Carr-Smith,
22 Will Butt,
23 Jaco Coetzee
Crazy strong bench again.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
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Bath Rugby: 1 Beno Obano, 2 Tom Dunn, 3 Will Stuart, 4 Ross Molony, 5 Charlie Ewels, 6 Ted Hill, 7 Miles Reid, 8 Alfie Barbeary, 9 Ben Spencer ©, 10 Finn Russell, 11 Will Muir, 12 Cameron Redpath, 13 Max Ojomoh, 14 Joe Cokanasiga, 15 Tom de Glanville
Replacements: 16 Niall Annett, 17 Francois van Wyk, 18 Thomas du Toit, 19 Guy Pepper, 20 Sam Underhill, 21 Tom Carr-Smith, 22 Will Butt, 23 Jaco Coetzee
PG
15. Tyrone Green (87)
14. Rodrigo Isgro (8)
13. Oscar Beard (69)
12. Luke Northmore (77)
11. Nick David (67)
10. Marcus Smith (172)
9. Will Porter (38)
1. Fin Baxter (63)
2. Jack Walker (81)
3. Titi Lamositele (13)
4. Irne Herbst (61)
5. Stephan Lewies © (80)
6. Jack Kenningham (65)
7. Tom Lawday (88)
8. Chandler Cunningham-South (27)
IMPACT PLAYERS:
16. Sam Riley (65)
17. Jordan Els (44)
18. Wyn Jones (15)
19. Joe Launchbury (36)
20. George Hammond (76)
21. Lucas Schmid (7)
22. Danny Care (390)
23. Jamie Benson (17)
COYB!
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
Bath by 13
Quins have predictably brought back their big guns, however as usual the strength of the benches may be a deciding factor.
On the front row battle, I do think there's an opportunity to go after Quins. Baxter is undoubtedly a talent, but I think he's been a tad overhyped, there have been a few occasions this season where he's gone up against seasoned scrummagers and been found out (hopefully Stuart has shared any intel from the England squad with TdT). Also Lamositele hasn't looked particularly solid at TH, I see him as a noticeable downgrade on Collier.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
Assistant Referees: James Clarke & Jonathan Healy
TMO: Dean Richards
Quote:theredseat
Wyn Jones having to cover tighthead is good news for us. Especially as Lamositele is hardly known for his conditioning.
Bath by 13
Good spot! That really does put even more importance on Lamositele to stay on the pitch, I wonder if Quins will put a running ban on him to preserve his energy (probably every prop's dream).
Looking back through the records I can see Jones' has played TH 7 times in his 197 career appearances, with his last being on 18th November 2023. Will be quite an ask to prop up the scrum (excuse the pun) against FvW.
Will Evans absence linked to the head knock last week or something different? Big bonus for us I think as absolute menace at the breakdown.
Two v good squads but backing us to sneak it by one score with the help of that fairly absurd bench.
It'll be interesting to see how JvG approaches Pau - no-one else should be needing a rest after just 3 matches on from the 6N period, then would we prefer a QF or a week on the beach?
If we get the win against Quins, I'd probably go strong against Pau, and then mix and match against Exeter and Newcastle, both of whom we've recently beaten, away, with our 2nd XV. Maybe not going with a full PRC 23, but certainly filtering in the regulars and ultra-talents from there.
If we lose to Quins tomorrow, then I'd be more inclined to go week in the Champ Cup, and make damned sure against Ex and Newc.
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Of note, if we beat Pau and Gloucester beat Montpellier, then as far as I know we will be at home against Gloucester as we are the higher ranked team.
Pau will fully rotate this weekend as they’re away to Toulouse so will be at full strength for the challenge cup. An under strength Bath is going to struggle.
Who plays instead of Finn at Pay given that Bailey won’t have played for quite a while?
Quote:Yep, I realised almost as soon I'd hit "post" after typing.Jonny Fantastic
The week after the Pau match is for the Euro Quarter finals, so if we beat Pau, we will play that weekend (12th/13th)
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There’s still a few players that can feature who haven’t played loads of rugby recently (Ewels, Roux, Pepper, Underhill, Bayliss, Ojomoh, Muir, TdG) so it doesn’t have to be a full bin juice line up.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Newcastle game has already been earmarked for rotation. We beat their full strength team up there without the big names so good chance for a few to get a weekend off (maybe two Challenge Cup dependent) ahead of that Bristol game
I'd have confidence sending Ewan Richards' Blue Black & White army to the south of France. Wonder if that is what JvG has planned? You hear a lot how every player in the squad knows when they're going to be playing long ahead of time, so maybe after the cup win, the young guys were told to focus solely on the Challenge Cup now. I'd be happy with a young XV with a stacked bench in France. Even if we went down fighting, what an experience, and then we can focus solely on the Prem.
Great squad for tomorrow. Back row depth is ridiculous and so nice to see Maloney and JCok back. Hopefully, our power game has too much for them and, as others have said, no Evans is a plus. I would box kick and chase like hell then run Barbeary, then Reid, then Hill, then Beno down the 10 channel for the first 50 minutes.
Any win will do but hopefully another week of Finn and Mojo in harmony should throw up some nice looking shapes, too.
2024/25 adoptee: Guy Pepper
Quote:theredseat
so it doesn’t have to be a full bin juice line up.
Agree with Dr Bath, unlike some clubs, I'm not sure that Bath actually have 'bin juice'. Pretty much everyone will have experienced good game time of some description.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
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Whatever their equivalent of a sponge and a dab of Deep Heat is - it's pretty darn effective at getting players off the physio table and back on the pitch.
But I recall when teams are winning they have less injuries....or perhaps players admit to less...
Quote:Optimist
I think our '16th player' this year is our Head of S&C.
Whatever their equivalent of a sponge and a dab of Deep Heat is - it's pretty darn effective at getting players off the physio table and back on the pitch.


Tom de Glanville - Adopted player 2024-5
Their backline always worries me though. Let's hope they're starved of the ball because it's a talented set of players for sure.
March 2025
O Lawrence, S Harris... A N Other?
March 2024
CHRIS CLOETE, TOM DE GLANVILLE, JOSH MCNALLY, GJ VAN VELZE
March 2023
Alfie Barbeary, Joe Cokanasiga, Jaco Coetzee, Piers Francis, Will Stuart and Sam Underhill, , Gabriel Hamer-Webb, Ted Hill, Quinn Roux
March 2022* note also Underhill and Faletau returned from injury for this game!
Unavailable due to injury, loan or international duty: Tom Ellis, Cameron Redpath, Juan Schoeman, Beno Obano, Anthony Watson, Ruaridh McConnochie, Tom Dunn, Johannes Jonker, Tian Schoeman, Gabriel Hamer-Webb, Ethan Staddon, Josh McNally, Miles Reid, Will Muir, Darren Atkins, Kieran Verden, Max Green, Nathan Hughes, Charlie Ewels and Will Stuart.
2024/25 adoptee: Guy Pepper
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Tom de Glanville - Adopted player 2024-5
Quote:Bath Supporter Jack
No Dombrandt?
Dombrandt has a thigh injury. And Will Evans is still following the HIA protocol.
BB
March 2025
…Bailey, Sela
He left us and went to Sale and Saracens and is now head of rugby at Sutton Valence School in Kent a Saracens affiliated school.....
Quote:Bath Supporter Jack
As a matter of interest Tom Ellis, appears above in the excellent analysis produced by Dr.Bath1865 in the injured players for 2022.
He left us and went to Sale and Saracens and is now head of rugby at Sutton Valence School in Kent a Saracens affiliated school.....
Completely off topic but does this mean he's now jacked in playing? Can't see mention of him anywhere. We were neighbours for a while and always enjoyed talking to him. Really nice lad and at one time (c. 2019) seemed like he'd get an England call up.
Quote:Brown BottleQuote:Bath Supporter Jack
No Dombrandt?
Dombrandt has a thigh injury. And Will Evans is still following the HIA protocol.
Not making me any less confused about why he was allowed to stay on the pitch last week......
Quote:Charlieboa1Quote:Brown BottleQuote:Bath Supporter Jack
No Dombrandt?
Dombrandt has a thigh injury. And Will Evans is still following the HIA protocol.
Not making me any less confused about why he was allowed to stay on the pitch last week......
Presumably the mouth guard detector didn't indicate anything, although his head did seem to whip back.
BB
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Quote:in part, that he moving the same direction as Coka, rather than coming forward.Toast and Marmite
Super try but not sure how on earth they found any mitigation there.
In larger part, sympathy
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’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
I thought live that Spencer should have queried it, but with the replay, there's no other defenders in place, and 2m out, it's a walk in.
Nailed on PT.
And as I type, TBP is scored straight off the restart

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’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
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’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Northmores was an excellent try from excellent play, not a reflection on the defence, for me.
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’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Quote:Which Tyler
Asleep or with 2 very important defenders injured?
Northmores was an excellent try from excellent play, not a reflection on the defence, for me.
TBF didn’t notice Ewells down initially.
Seems to have revived us anyway. Hoping we can start crumbling their scrum when our subs come on.
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
They'll be expecting to have some fun in there
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What’s annoying is they are going through gaps that should not be there
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
How good a player could Ojomoh become
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
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Bath (shoulda already) put 50 on 4th place Quins => ???
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’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Quote:Which Tyler
Bristol out 50 on 9th placed Exeter => Bristol are invincible, well never beat them
Bath (shoulda already) put 50 on 4th place Quins => ???
Is anyone actually saying they’re invincible and we can’t beat them? I think it’s more the case that for whatever reason we struggle against them more than others.
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Quote:last week, not quite. But the hyperbole a couple of months ago annoyed meToast and MarmiteQuote:Which Tyler
Bristol out 50 on 9th placed Exeter => Bristol are invincible, well never beat them
Bath (shoulda already) put 50 on 4th place Quins => ???
Is anyone actually saying they’re invincible and we can’t beat them? I think it’s more the case that for whatever reason we struggle against them more than others.
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Quote:hasta
Honestly, this ref has given us absolutely nothing at the breakdown. And we've butchered at least two tries. And the lineout has been poor (particularly Annett). It's a very weird time to be a bath fan 😁
Quins constantly in at the side, couple of times at least crawling on deck - yeah underwhelming but probably equally poor for both sides.
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Quote:Which Tyler
200 up for points difference
Wow!!!
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Bit concerned about Ewels’ ribs. Also, anyone else see Herbst (him again) hit Dunny off the ball, potentially high, in the second half? Looked horrible and wasn’t looked at.
2024/25 adoptee: Guy Pepper
The most startling sight of the whole game was Mojo at full chat for 60 meters and JC4 just cruising alongside him giving him a running commentary!
My MotM - Mojo. Not for his attack but for his defence. The Quins back line just couldn't get around him and so stalled when they should have had us in trouble. That kind of thing is what's going to win us silverware.
... IMHO, of course.
Now in Honolulu
Thought our ruck speed was outstanding early on and Russell and Spencer had cracking games. Ojomoh, Muir and Dunn all stand outs as well.
Agree with the other comment about the breakdown. Ref didn’t seem keen to reward jackalling at all today and was constantly saying there was no clear release or that the player was on the body not the ball. Rare to see the breakdown reffed that way these days.
Absolutely no right to be on that support line today as a prop mind you
Agree about the jackals not being rewards today.
Also missed a monster forward pass that eventually led to the baby faced assassin's try.
Quote:theredseat
A word for van Wyk as well. It felt a bit of an uninspiring pick when we arrived if I’m honest but he’s been absolutely rock solid in everything he’s done since he got here and his work rate is really good.
Absolutely no right to be on that support line today as a prop mind you
I was thinking similar thoughts, arrived as 3rd choice from Tigers (?) but is much improved here. Fair play to him. Thought TdG worthy of motm today, rock solid all afternoon with good carries and breaks going forward. A chip off the old block. I can't see anyone in the Prem beating us atm....
Adopted players: 24/25 J Bayliss; [24] O Lawrence; [23] J Cokanasiga; [22] M Green; [21] A Watson; [20] T Faletau; [19] M V Vuuren; [18] T Faletau; [17] D Denton; [16] H. Agulla; [15] L Houston; [14] W Spencer; [13] F. Louw
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My mind's been going places without me lately - Bushfire The B52's
Quote:Dorset Boy
I think a lot were sceptical about the Van Wyk signing but he has been really excellent for us
100%. In JvG we trust.
I think Dunn mentioned that this season is the first in his 14 at Bath that the coaching team is the same as last. Helps the stars like Finn to build the structures, but must help the likes of VV to slot in from the bench/wider squad and take their game to the next level.
Thought Reid was huge today too. Richard Hill esque in his industry.
2024/25 adoptee: Guy Pepper
Quote:Toga
Do Bath fans ever wonder how on earth the club affords it or are you just enjoying the ride until the SCD catches up with the paperwork?
How current many internationals do we have?
How many Lions will we have?
How many players are academy graduates?
2024/25 adoptee: Guy Pepper
Quote:Toga
Do Bath fans ever wonder how on earth the club affords it or are you just enjoying the ride until the SCD catches up with the paperwork?
We afford it because Bruce Craig has lots of money and is happy to spend it on the club. There’s also income from ticket sales, merchandise, various sponsorships and commercial agreements that sort of thing.
Happy to help.
Quote:Dorset BoyQuote:Toga
Do Bath fans ever wonder how on earth the club affords it or are you just enjoying the ride until the SCD catches up with the paperwork?
How current many internationals do we have? Loads
How many Lions will we have? Yes
How many players are academy graduates? 3 maybe?
Quote:TogaQuote:Dorset BoyQuote:Toga
Do Bath fans ever wonder how on earth the club affords it or are you just enjoying the ride until the SCD catches up with the paperwork?
How current many internationals do we have? Loads
How many Lions will we have? Yes
How many players are academy graduates? 3 maybe?
Keep it going Toga, I for one enjoy the taste of salty tears.
’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”
Quote:Yes.Toga
Do Bath fans ever wonder how on earth the club affords it or are you just enjoying the ride until the SCD catches up with the paperwork?
But then we look at the squad, and the squads of other teams, and realise that it's really no more expensive than 4-5 others.
We then compare it to cheating-era Saracens, and realise that it's far cheaper than that squad.
Beyond that, we are aware that the Salary cap comissioner was given far more teeth, and far more communication with teams post-2020, and feel reassured that there's nothing nefarious going on.
And finally, we are aware that the Prem winners submit their accounts to a forensic audit, and that as a club hoping/expecting to win the Prem, that our accounts will stand up to a forensic audit.
And we realise that these complaints against us are founded on jealousy, and nothing to do with the cost of our squad.
So feel free to take your tears elsewhere
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Quote:Which TylerQuote:Yes.Toga
Do Bath fans ever wonder how on earth the club affords it or are you just enjoying the ride until the SCD catches up with the paperwork?
But then we look at the squad, and the squads of other teams, and realise that it's really no more expensive than 4-5 others.
We then compare it to cheating-era Saracens, and realise that it's far cheaper than that squad.
Beyond that, we are aware that the Salary cap comissioner was given far more teeth, and far more communication with teams post-2020, and feel reassured that there's nothing nefarious going on.
And finally, we are aware that the Prem winners submit their accounts to a forensic audit, and that as a club hoping/expecting to win the Prem, that our accounts will stand up to a forensic audit.
And we realise that these complaints against us are founded on jealousy, and nothing to do with the cost of our squad.
So feel free to take your tears elsewhere
Let us hope your hubris is rewarded. 👍🏻
2024/25 adoptee: Guy Pepper
Quote:Good maths, well done.Toga
How many Lions will we have? Yes
It's largely a tale of an extremely well run club with an attention to detail whose owner is prepared to support financially in every allowed way.
Is that ross kemp docu good? And what channel is it on? Genuine question, not pts scoring..... a lot of water has passed under the bridge!
Thought we butchered some v v good chances- not a good habit to get into when tougher challenges await
Get a bit frustrated with cam- can be v hot headed giving daft pens away (not yest tbf) , leaping out of defensive line for a miracle play, and dropped a sitter. Only being harsh as he could be world class but I would actually play butt and mojo at mo personally.
Lineout fell apart- seemed ok when ewels went off? Was more when annett came on for dunn?
Positives- too many to list, we are a v v good rugby team and have a squad with great depth!
We could put ourselves in a position where we are able to manage the squad leading into the knock out stages of prem (and maybe latter stages of Europe if we get through next week)
There was a post match interview with Mojo where he said he was travelling reserve for the final last year and 'that cannot happen again'. Loved the attitude.
Only disappointment was Quins getting a LBP they didn’t deserve and the ref who was so inconsistent.
Interesting, how I feel at the Rec this season, for the first 70 minutes of a match, is enjoyment of course, but also abject fear that we’re not going to reach our potential. Almost more pressure watching and knowing we should win well than watching and expecting us to knock on everything after 3 phases and get trounced.
2024/25 adoptee: Guy Pepper
As you say brings a different type of pressure- never relaxing watching your team but certainly prefer this to 3/4 yrs ago!
The backline is really starting to purr now, having Will and Joe back on the wings just adds a whole new threat out wide, and Max seems to be knitting the strike plays together beautifully.
With all the talk about England's search for centres, I was interested to watch how Beard/Northmore got on, as both have been talked up by some as potential options for the national team. I have to say I wasn't overly impressed, there was obviously the totally butchered try by Northmore, but I thought defensively they were all over the shop. Of course some credit has to go to Bath's attack, which was looking slick all afternoon, but there were several occasions where they seemed to just let our backs eat up the metres. With Atikinson going well for Gloucester as well I wonder if the pecking order for the Argentina tour is shifting.
Quote:boozeboozebooze
With Atikinson going well for Gloucester as well I wonder if the pecking order for the Argentina tour is shifting.
Yes, I agree See Atkinson was impressive for Glaws on both fronts, If we are looking for 12s I think Will Ring at Exeter has promise and might well duo better when Hawkins leaves. Lost track of Hartley at Sarries, I thought he was developing OK but off the radar now.

Quote:Charlieboa1
Some minor gripes from me:
Thought we butchered some v v good chances- not a good habit to get into when tougher challenges await
Get a bit frustrated with cam- can be v hot headed giving daft pens away (not yest tbf) , leaping out of defensive line for a miracle play, and dropped a sitter. Only being harsh as he could be world class but I would actually play butt and mojo at mo personally.
Agree with this, We make incisive breaks and then throw them away with a bit of white line fever rather than wait for support. TDG has also been guilty of this in the last two games. The pressure with be on next season as Carreras just seems a perfect link in that respect.
Also too many of our last passes are forward (Joe C) so that line pressure just disappears.

I don’t think he’ll make it to international level, but he’s certainly going to be a stalwart club player for a long time.
Sure competition with santi, harris etc will push him to new heights hopefully.
I think TdG has come into his own this year because he knows he's not going to be dropped straight away if he makes a mistake. That confidence has really brought him on this year; and hopefully sees him in good stead for JvG to rotate the back 3 the same way he rotates the front row, backrow and centres.
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I dunno man, if my club was so synonymous with egregious cheating that Ross Kemp made a documentary about it, I'd be tempted to keep my head down.
Can I please point out that Toga is a Saracens fan.
He hates Quins and regularly trolls on our board.
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I dunno man, if my club was so synonymous with egregious cheating that Ross Kemp made a documentary about it, I'd be tempted to keep my head down.
Can I please point out that Toga is a Saracens fan.
He hates Quins and regularly trolls on our board.
My apologies.
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I dunno man, if my club was so synonymous with egregious cheating that Ross Kemp made a documentary about it, I'd be tempted to keep my head down.
Can I please point out that Toga is a Saracens fan.
He hates Quins and regularly trolls on our board.
My apologies.
No problem. Quite amusing, though, being trolled about the salary cap by a Sarries fan.

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Happy to see Horse get motm, however both TdG and Alfie were both up there with him.
Hard to point to performace of the day, I thought that every single player made a positive contribution - the try by VW off the break from Butt emphasising that 1-23 are all on the same page.
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Good to see him back.
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I thought Joe C had a very good game. Try apart, he got involved more in midfield, defended well and made a strong contribution in the air. His handling also seemed more secure.
Good to see him back.
PG
I started off by typing who I thought had a good game then realised that i had basically typed in the names of all the team...
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I thought Joe C had a very good game. Try apart, he got involved more in midfield, defended well and made a strong contribution in the air. His handling also seemed more secure.
Good to see him back.
PG
Probably has a career as a drill sergeant in him after his playing days. Didn't let Max slack off at all on that interception.
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I appreciate they are subjective, but the score for Barbeary is ludicrous and based on someone who thinks a back row is only having a good game if they get 5+ metres over the gain line every carry.
In reality those punishing smaller gains at the start of the match end up being creating the holes at the end and are just as important.
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I appreciate they are subjective, but the score for Barbeary is ludicrous and based on someone who thinks a back row is only having a good game if they get 5+ metres over the gain line every carry.
In reality those punishing smaller gains at the start of the match end up being creating the holes at the end and are just as important.
Agree and think the score for Redpath is equally harsh. Just based on uncharacteristic error. Big tho it was, I thought the rest of his game was sound
Good job we still humped Quins......
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Just seen that Isgro was cited and has received a 3 match ban, the yellow he was given being upgraded to a red.
Good job we still humped Quins......
Yes and this inconsistency is the biggest issue at the moment with the head contact protocols IMO
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Basically I think that if it was in the 60th minute rather than the 3rd it would have been a red.
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