BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Staddon: to lead?
By PG Tips
October 28 2025
Bristol Bears are likely to have sore heads when they host Bath in the Prem Cup this Friday. On their first visit to the Rec since last season’s semi-final they suffered the same outcome last Saturday. Despite catching Bath cold early on, they succumbed to Bath’s power, discipline and a well-timed “bomb squad” refresh, this time to heavier defeat. Friday may be a different competition, but defeat will be fresh in their minds. As will the failure to get under Bath’s skin and van Graan’s comments about yellow cards. How will they react for the rematch?
Pat Lam will probably see this game as a chance to clear the hangover. His comments about his squad’s efforts after the match were complimentary but he also noted discipline as an area to improve. I suspect behind closed doors he could be more forthright, not wanting a repeat of Bears’ high penalty count from the Prem tie.
Last year for the home cup match Bristol went strong. A mix and match Bath selection held them to 21-21 at half time. After that the scoring was one way only, a Bailey hamstring injury disrupting Bath’s backs and Bristol making the most of their forward edge, winning 40-21. Now, with several injuries and a smaller squad, will Lam feel the need to field a front-line selection again?
He may demand a more disciplined approach but the gameplan is unlikely to vary much. In front of a home crowd Bristol will hope their chaos rugby can prevail this time, especially if Bath chose a development selection as they mostly did last season.
Bath too have their injuries to contend with, chief of them the absence of backup flyhalves Donoghue and Sam Harris. Will van Graan entrust the role to the young and inexperienced Linegar or convert a back from another position? Could De Glanville, who has had a few minutes at 10 already this season be the starter, with Linegar primed to come off the bench? Whoever gets the gig there is an argument for experience alongside which suggests Butt or perhaps Chris Harris at centre and Carr-Smith at scrum half.
Last season’s successful Cup run and eventual triumph brought Bath’s first silverware for 17 years and primed the ascent to triple glory. Having lost the opening round to Exeter Chiefs the coaching staff will know a win is essential to have any chance of similar progress in the tournament this year.
For all that I expect the lineup, which is to be coached by Ryan Davis, will mostly follow last year’s policy of game time for the wider squad. That suggests the likes of Spandler, Sela, Cuckson (to be recalled from loan) Staddon, Green, Cowan, Hennessy, Emmens and Offiah will feature, with maybe a senior forward or two to reinforce. With a few locks injured I doubt last year’s Captain Richards will be risked, but this may be the moment to ease Ted Hill back into action for twenty minutes or so. In Richards’ absence I would opt for Staddon as skipper, or perhaps Chris Harris.
At Ashton Gate Bears must be favourites. Bath though will want to show that their victory last year, fully using squad depth, was no fluke. I back them to play with intensity and verve. It could be quite some match!
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Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 08:30
I read the headline and thought PG you were commenting on the response on the Bears Board after Saturdays game!
I have to say I would like Bath to focus/concentrate on the Premiership and Europe.....and to really go for a development squad for the Premiership Cup. The Club will only benefit by giving younger players more game time.
It is their time to step forward and play up.
I have to say I would like Bath to focus/concentrate on the Premiership and Europe.....and to really go for a development squad for the Premiership Cup. The Club will only benefit by giving younger players more game time.
It is their time to step forward and play up.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 08:31
Sorry very rude of me I forgot to say Good Report!!!
I will follow your lead and get my reviews in a day or two earlier
I will follow your lead and get my reviews in a day or two earlier
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: nigewing (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 08:35
Isn’t Hennessy with Wales this week?
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 08:46
Well spotted Nige - he is!
BSJ - I think Bath will chose ( largely) a development selection. Their hand may be forced in one or two positions though where injuries and AI callups leave a paucity of choice.
PG
BSJ - I think Bath will chose ( largely) a development selection. Their hand may be forced in one or two positions though where injuries and AI callups leave a paucity of choice.
PG
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 08:57
That’s a very accurate summary PG. Personally I think that JvG will continue to use the Prem cup as a development resource as in the past reinforcing the side with a few senior players. What Bristol do is anyone’s guess but I somehow doubt he will risk key backs given his issues in the senior squad.
I suspect he might well follow the Bath Uni selection policy who have had a strong start to the season. That might indicate James Linegar at 10, Austin Emens and Tyler Offiah on the wings and Jack Woods at full back. Centres might be a tricky to pick but with Hennessy called up to the senior Wales squad I think Chris Harris might be the senior back as you mention above. One player who might be a surprise pick is Charlie Griffin who has been very strong at the outside centre position for the university. That would mean Chris Harris would be affected so perhaps that’s a pick for another time. The 12 spot for is an issue, Mojo is in the England squad, I doubt Redpath will be risked and it might be too soon for Jack Harrison that might need a fudge!
I actually think Richards might play and wonder if Staddon might be Joined in the back row by either Connor Treacey or Tom Cowan.
Tyler Offiah
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I suspect he might well follow the Bath Uni selection policy who have had a strong start to the season. That might indicate James Linegar at 10, Austin Emens and Tyler Offiah on the wings and Jack Woods at full back. Centres might be a tricky to pick but with Hennessy called up to the senior Wales squad I think Chris Harris might be the senior back as you mention above. One player who might be a surprise pick is Charlie Griffin who has been very strong at the outside centre position for the university. That would mean Chris Harris would be affected so perhaps that’s a pick for another time. The 12 spot for is an issue, Mojo is in the England squad, I doubt Redpath will be risked and it might be too soon for Jack Harrison that might need a fudge!
I actually think Richards might play and wonder if Staddon might be Joined in the back row by either Connor Treacey or Tom Cowan.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: Ali1969 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 09:14
Should be a spicy affair - I would imagine Will Butt and Chris Harris may be the preferred centre combination with TdG at fullback to give some much needed experience down the spine to what I would imagine will be a young inexperienced team entering a hostile atmosphere (especially given the reaction to the defeat on Saturday on their board) - Linegar to start at 10 for me.
Depending on how Charlie Ewels is recovering I would imagine will determine whether Ewan Richards is risked - otherwise I would expect a very forward thinking developmental 23.
On another note I see young Cuckson played a lot of minutes for Scarlets in South Africa - hopefully that experience will have helped in his development greatly.
Depending on how Charlie Ewels is recovering I would imagine will determine whether Ewan Richards is risked - otherwise I would expect a very forward thinking developmental 23.
On another note I see young Cuckson played a lot of minutes for Scarlets in South Africa - hopefully that experience will have helped in his development greatly.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 09:18
Of course Ali Will Butt, totally forgot about him and Arthur Green at 8.
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Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 10:19
Whichever young squad players are picked alongside a few more familiar faces in need of minutes, this game will only benefit their development (whatever the final score) and as such the club as a whole. Great opportunity for a few of them to put their hands up as others did last year. COYBaaaaath!
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Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 11:02
Very nice preview, I'd forgotten we played them in the cup last year as well, and that mention of Bailey's injury, can't help but think that may have been the sliding doors moment, as it opened the door for Donoghue to come in and usurp him in the squad. Ironically now Ciaran is out we'll have to see if young Linegar can do a similar job in stepping up to the plate.
In terms of selection, I'd like to see us sprinkle in a healthy amount of experience to go alongside the younger players, so something like:
Summerfield, Kepu, Verden
Jeanes, Richards
Cowan, Green, Staddon
TCS, Linegar
Butt, Harris
Offiah, Emens, Griffin
Spandler, Kirk, Sela, Bennett, Timmins, Treacy, Le Roux, Woods
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In terms of selection, I'd like to see us sprinkle in a healthy amount of experience to go alongside the younger players, so something like:
Summerfield, Kepu, Verden
Jeanes, Richards
Cowan, Green, Staddon
TCS, Linegar
Butt, Harris
Offiah, Emens, Griffin
Spandler, Kirk, Sela, Bennett, Timmins, Treacy, Le Roux, Woods
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Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 11:08
Have you got Griffin on the wing and Emens at 15 then?
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Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 11:20
Quote:shipwrecked
Have you got Griffin on the wing and Emens at 15 then?
Yep, always a tricky one how to format rugby lineups, I went for a "birds eye view" as opposed to in numerical order, so Green is at 8 and Emens is at 15.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: Francis Allen (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 11:28
With Dan Frost injured I can't see Kepu being risked.
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Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 11:33
Quote:boozeboozeboozeQuote:shipwrecked
Have you got Griffin on the wing and Emens at 15 then?
Yep, always a tricky one how to format rugby lineups, I went for a "birds eye view" as opposed to in numerical order, so Green is at 8 and Emens is at 15.
That’s close to spot on for me, though we have two very good 15s coming through in Jack Woods and now Sam Winters who is very quick and on try scoring form from the bench.
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 12:01
Quote:Francis Allen
With Dan Frost injured I can't see Kepu being risked.
Same here
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Posted by: Tlacey90 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 12:20
Noticed Max Pearce warming up as extra on Saturday and hasn't played for uni side for few weeks so expect him to be next in line at Hooker. Similar to Kepu Tom Carr-Smith is bench back up to Spencer so wonder if he'll be protected or start and Le Roux on bench.
Wonder for those on loan which is better them coming back to Bath for this or few weeks or remaining with Worcester who are playing on Friday & 15th November.
Wonder for those on loan which is better them coming back to Bath for this or few weeks or remaining with Worcester who are playing on Friday & 15th November.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 12:28
If push came to shove Jasper Spandler could be recalled as well. Max Pearce is also an option as you say.
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Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2025 12:57
I get what people are saying about risking players who are likely going to be involved when the league resumes, in an ideal world I'd pick a 23 that is made entirely of fringe players but still competitive, it's just a question of whether selecting so many players from the academy/Bath University could leave us exposed.
If we can get Spandler back to start then I'd be perfectly happy, he's always impressed when given a chance, Pearce could take the 16 shirt.
I hope Linegar gets another game at 10, but he would need to be surrounded by experience, so having Harris, Butt and TCS would help take the pressure off. If we want to protect TCS then I'd be happy for Le Roux to start, but again I'd want him with an experienced player at 10, of which there aren't really any obvious candidates.
Out of interest I did just have a look at how Emanuel and Davies are getting on at Cardiff, and it looks like neither have made an appearance thus far, wonder whether we might recall them from their loans for this block of fixtures, particularly as LH and scrum half are two positions where we're a little light on numbers.
If we can get Spandler back to start then I'd be perfectly happy, he's always impressed when given a chance, Pearce could take the 16 shirt.
I hope Linegar gets another game at 10, but he would need to be surrounded by experience, so having Harris, Butt and TCS would help take the pressure off. If we want to protect TCS then I'd be happy for Le Roux to start, but again I'd want him with an experienced player at 10, of which there aren't really any obvious candidates.
Out of interest I did just have a look at how Emanuel and Davies are getting on at Cardiff, and it looks like neither have made an appearance thus far, wonder whether we might recall them from their loans for this block of fixtures, particularly as LH and scrum half are two positions where we're a little light on numbers.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS?
Posted by: tigersimon (IP Logged)
Date: 29/10/2025 07:08
Yes there is a risk of injury in playing people in Competitive matches but injuries also happen in training.
Constantly training without games surely isn’t good for players MH, many of whom will see the International window and PRC as opportunities for game time!
TDG & Chris Harris included as leaders in the backs.
My XV
TdG
Offiah
C. Harris
Butt
Emens
Linegar
Le Roux
Summerfield
Kepu
Sela
Jeanes
Richards
Cowan
Green
Staddon
Worcester have fixtures on Friday evening and throughout November so if loan players are getting game time there development maybe be best at Sixways for the month or for another fortnight and recall for PRC R4 & R5. R5 will probably be used as a warm up for restart of Prem?
Two England A games during November so if Bath have been given a heads up on who might be involved this could factor into rest time versus selection!
Constantly training without games surely isn’t good for players MH, many of whom will see the International window and PRC as opportunities for game time!
TDG & Chris Harris included as leaders in the backs.
My XV
TdG
Offiah
C. Harris
Butt
Emens
Linegar
Le Roux
Summerfield
Kepu
Sela
Jeanes
Richards
Cowan
Green
Staddon
Worcester have fixtures on Friday evening and throughout November so if loan players are getting game time there development maybe be best at Sixways for the month or for another fortnight and recall for PRC R4 & R5. R5 will probably be used as a warm up for restart of Prem?
Two England A games during November so if Bath have been given a heads up on who might be involved this could factor into rest time versus selection!
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Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 29/10/2025 16:47
Emens
Offiah
Harris
Butt
Griffin
Linegar
Tcs
Kirk
Kepu
Sela
Jeanes/cuckson
Richards
Staddon
Cowan
Green
Bench: Pearce, summerfield, verden, bennett, treacey, timmins, le roux, woods
Offiah
Harris
Butt
Griffin
Linegar
Tcs
Kirk
Kepu
Sela
Jeanes/cuckson
Richards
Staddon
Cowan
Green
Bench: Pearce, summerfield, verden, bennett, treacey, timmins, le roux, woods
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Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 11:59
Teams up!
Bath Rugby Starting XV: 1 Scott Kirk, 2 Kepueli Tuipulotu, 3 Vilikesa Sela, 4 Will Jeanes, 5 Ewan Richards ©, 6 Arthur Green, 7 Ethan Staddon, 8 Alfie Barbeary, 9 Neil le Roux, 10 Tom de Glanville, 11 Charlie Griffin, 12 Will Butt, 13 Chris Harris, 14 Tyler Offiah, 15 Jack Woods
Replacements: 16 Jasper Spandler, 17 Mikey Summerfield, 18 Kieran Verden, 19 Harvey Cuckson, 20 George Timmins, 21 Ieuan Davies, 22 James Linegar, 23 Sam Winters
A bit stronger than I was expecting to be honest
Bath Rugby Starting XV: 1 Scott Kirk, 2 Kepueli Tuipulotu, 3 Vilikesa Sela, 4 Will Jeanes, 5 Ewan Richards ©, 6 Arthur Green, 7 Ethan Staddon, 8 Alfie Barbeary, 9 Neil le Roux, 10 Tom de Glanville, 11 Charlie Griffin, 12 Will Butt, 13 Chris Harris, 14 Tyler Offiah, 15 Jack Woods
Replacements: 16 Jasper Spandler, 17 Mikey Summerfield, 18 Kieran Verden, 19 Harvey Cuckson, 20 George Timmins, 21 Ieuan Davies, 22 James Linegar, 23 Sam Winters
A bit stronger than I was expecting to be honest
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Posted by: Tlacey90 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 12:00
Bristol Bears team to face Bath Rugby in the PREM Rugby Cup on Friday night (7.45pm KO):
15. Mat Protheroe (34 apps), 14. Josh Carrington (6 apps), 13. Jack Bates (55 apps), 12. Victor Worsnip (debut), 11. Aidan Boshoff (6 apps), 10. Raff Weston (debut), 9. Sam Wolstenholme (c) (9 apps); 1. Sam Grahamslaw (17 apps), 2. Tomas Gwilliam (7 apps), 3. Jimmy Halliwell (13 apps), 4. Paddy Pearce (15 apps), 5. Joe Owen (15 apps), 6. Luka Ivanishvili (3 apps), 7. Kofi Cripps (5 apps), 8. Benjamin Grondona (26 apps).
System players: 16. Gabriel Oghre (49 apps), 17. Louie Trevett (4 apps), 18. Lovejoy Chawatama (12 apps), 19. Steele Barker (5 apps), 20. Kenzie Jenkins (5 apps), 21. Ellis Bevan (debut), 22. Evan Morris (1 app), 23. Benjamin Elizalde (21 apps).
15. Mat Protheroe (34 apps), 14. Josh Carrington (6 apps), 13. Jack Bates (55 apps), 12. Victor Worsnip (debut), 11. Aidan Boshoff (6 apps), 10. Raff Weston (debut), 9. Sam Wolstenholme (c) (9 apps); 1. Sam Grahamslaw (17 apps), 2. Tomas Gwilliam (7 apps), 3. Jimmy Halliwell (13 apps), 4. Paddy Pearce (15 apps), 5. Joe Owen (15 apps), 6. Luka Ivanishvili (3 apps), 7. Kofi Cripps (5 apps), 8. Benjamin Grondona (26 apps).
System players: 16. Gabriel Oghre (49 apps), 17. Louie Trevett (4 apps), 18. Lovejoy Chawatama (12 apps), 19. Steele Barker (5 apps), 20. Kenzie Jenkins (5 apps), 21. Ellis Bevan (debut), 22. Evan Morris (1 app), 23. Benjamin Elizalde (21 apps).
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Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 12:01
And Bristol's selection:
15. Mat Protheroe (34 apps), 14. Josh Carrington (6 apps), 13. Jack Bates (55 apps), 12. Victor Worsnip (debut), 11. Aidan Boshoff (6 apps), 10. Raff Weston (debut), 9. Sam Wolstenholme (c) (9 apps); 1. Sam Grahamslaw (17 apps), 2. Tomas Gwilliam (7 apps), 3. Jimmy Halliwell (13 apps), 4. Paddy Pearce (15 apps), 5. Joe Owen (15 apps), 6. Luka Ivanishvili (3 apps), 7. Kofi Cripps (5 apps), 8. Benjamin Grondona (26 apps).
System players: 16. Gabriel Oghre (49 apps), 17. Louie Trevett (4 apps), 18. Lovejoy Chawatama (12 apps), 19. Steele Barker (5 apps), 20. Kenzie Jenkins (5 apps), 21. Ellis Bevan (debut), 22. Evan Morris (1 app), 23. Benjamin Elizalde (21 apps).
The return of Raff Weston, wonder if he'll play with a point to prove.
Otherwise quite a few players I've never heard of, but some decent firepower to bring off the bench.
15. Mat Protheroe (34 apps), 14. Josh Carrington (6 apps), 13. Jack Bates (55 apps), 12. Victor Worsnip (debut), 11. Aidan Boshoff (6 apps), 10. Raff Weston (debut), 9. Sam Wolstenholme (c) (9 apps); 1. Sam Grahamslaw (17 apps), 2. Tomas Gwilliam (7 apps), 3. Jimmy Halliwell (13 apps), 4. Paddy Pearce (15 apps), 5. Joe Owen (15 apps), 6. Luka Ivanishvili (3 apps), 7. Kofi Cripps (5 apps), 8. Benjamin Grondona (26 apps).
System players: 16. Gabriel Oghre (49 apps), 17. Louie Trevett (4 apps), 18. Lovejoy Chawatama (12 apps), 19. Steele Barker (5 apps), 20. Kenzie Jenkins (5 apps), 21. Ellis Bevan (debut), 22. Evan Morris (1 app), 23. Benjamin Elizalde (21 apps).
The return of Raff Weston, wonder if he'll play with a point to prove.
Otherwise quite a few players I've never heard of, but some decent firepower to bring off the bench.
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Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 12:07
Quote:boozeboozebooze
And Bristol's selection:
15. Mat Protheroe (34 apps), 14. Josh Carrington (6 apps), 13. Jack Bates (55 apps), 12. Victor Worsnip (debut), 11. Aidan Boshoff (6 apps), 10. Raff Weston (debut), 9. Sam Wolstenholme (c) (9 apps); 1. Sam Grahamslaw (17 apps), 2. Tomas Gwilliam (7 apps), 3. Jimmy Halliwell (13 apps), 4. Paddy Pearce (15 apps), 5. Joe Owen (15 apps), 6. Luka Ivanishvili (3 apps), 7. Kofi Cripps (5 apps), 8. Benjamin Grondona (26 apps).
System players: 16. Gabriel Oghre (49 apps), 17. Louie Trevett (4 apps), 18. Lovejoy Chawatama (12 apps), 19. Steele Barker (5 apps), 20. Kenzie Jenkins (5 apps), 21. Ellis Bevan (debut), 22. Evan Morris (1 app), 23. Benjamin Elizalde (21 apps).
The return of Raff Weston, wonder if he'll play with a point to prove.
Otherwise quite a few players I've never heard of, but some decent firepower to bring off the bench.
Raff Weston will certainly get some stick! I think he had some injury issues but is a decent goal kicker.
TdG at 10, is he goal kicking as well? Kepu and Billy must be a scary prospect for the Bristol front row.
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Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 12:22
Quote:shipwrecked
Raff Weston will certainly get some stick! I think he had some injury issues but is a decent goal kicker.
TdG at 10, is he goal kicking as well? Kepu and Billy must be a scary prospect for the Bristol front row.
Woods apparently can play fly half as well, so you'd think he would be another kicking option. Le Roux might also be capable of stepping in if needed.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS? TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: jayeatman (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 12:43
I expected to see Austin Emens & Thompson Cowan. Injured?
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Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS? TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: Tlacey90 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 12:56
Emens was named at fullback for the University of Bath match on Wednesday night against Loughborough which they lost 43-26. It was only him, Alfie Griffin & Alex Ridgeway from Bath in team and he seems to have played more on wing for them with Winters or Woods at fullback. Cowan has been playing for Rams rather than Champ but hasn't been in the team last few weeks so may have an injury.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS? TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 14:38
Quote:jayeatman
I expected to see Austin Emens & Thompson Cowan. Injured?
Yeah agreed on both fronts.
Cowan has actually looked very lively when given a chance, not bad for our 11th(?) choice back rower.
Interesting that Emens has gone from getting several starts in the 1st team last year, to battling it out in the university team again. Have to say I've never been totally convinced by him, now that we've added Arundell and Carreras (and Offiah, Griffin and Woods with another year under their belts) he looks to have fallen significantly down the pecking order.
Re: BEARS WITH SORE HEADS? TEAM'S UP!
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 14:54
Bath team stronger but not by much. Hope it'll be a good match. Anyone know if you can watch from home?
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Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 15:32
by
Not in TV I think.
Offy match centre: [www.bathrugby.com]
shows it is on BBC Radio Bristol plus updates on Offy x.
PG
Not in TV I think.
Offy match centre: [www.bathrugby.com]
shows it is on BBC Radio Bristol plus updates on Offy x.
PG
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 15:33
Quote:by
Bath team stronger but not by much. Hope it'll be a good match. Anyone know if you can watch from home?
Mostly senior acad with a couple of more experienced guys in need of minutes - perfect (and in the spirit).
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Posted by: ROLLO (IP Logged)
Date: 30/10/2025 15:44
Good luck to Jeanes, Summerfield, Spandler and Cuckson, now all Wuss old boys 
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Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 07:57
I get the term Replacements obviously. I can live with Impact players but wth is System Players for the Briz bench?
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Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 08:23
Love that 23.
Bit stronger than I expected with the loanee's back which I think is the right decision.
Imagine tdg may goalkick but as others have mentioned le.roux is a goalkicker.
As per other comments it will be great for the young lads to have someone like chris harris in the team
Such a shame donoghue is injured- perfect chance for him to get used to playing 10 and managing games. Hopefully linegar will get a bit of game time in this tournament.
Ewan richards barmy army is back- some of my fave games last season were u18s uni and prem cup!
Bit stronger than I expected with the loanee's back which I think is the right decision.
Imagine tdg may goalkick but as others have mentioned le.roux is a goalkicker.
As per other comments it will be great for the young lads to have someone like chris harris in the team
Such a shame donoghue is injured- perfect chance for him to get used to playing 10 and managing games. Hopefully linegar will get a bit of game time in this tournament.
Ewan richards barmy army is back- some of my fave games last season were u18s uni and prem cup!
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Posted by: Barfboy (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 10:58
Had hoped to watch this one on the box. Anyone know the logic behind TNT not showing either of the Prem Cup games tonight? No other rugby on and not showing any domestic men's game this weekend it seems.
TV issues aside, strong team and good to see us taking the same approach as last season.
TV issues aside, strong team and good to see us taking the same approach as last season.
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Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 11:10
Quote:Barfboy
Had hoped to watch this one on the box. Anyone know the logic behind TNT not showing either of the Prem Cup games tonight? No other rugby on and not showing any domestic men's game this weekend it seems.
TV issues aside, strong team and good to see us taking the same approach as last season.
Does seem like such an odd decision, almost like the organisers are admitting defeat on not being able to garner interest in the games.
Broadcasting the games on TV obviously costs money, so they need to be fairly confident that they'll get decent viewing numbers to justify that expense. The fact that there has been no obvious attempt to drum up interest in the competition means only the die hard fans are likely to tune in.
If they were actually trying to be smart about it they could try and tie it in with the general bump in interest there is in the sport during the Autumn internationals. Schedule the games either side of the England match, then you could sell the PRC games as the appetiser/dessert to the main course of the game at Twickenham. Given everything is on the same broadcaster for the first time it really wouldn't be that hard to cross-promote these matches.
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Posted by: nick holder (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 11:43
I am sure I have seen somewhere TNT are showing highlights of this weekends round of matches, but can't find anything on any of the channels. It does seem a bit strange given they have the broadcast rights.
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Posted by: Never In Doubt (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 12:41
TNT are showing 3 Autumn Internationals on Saturday and Sarrries v Quins womens on Sunday. I doubt the PREM cup hols much interest on top.
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Posted by: Shadders (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 18:58
It would with those on (h)ere. Ruining my Friday night! Radio Bristol it will have to be….
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:00
Sounds like Kepu tearing them up. Him and Sela with the Bath scores so far.
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:12
Alfie limping off isn’t good.
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Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:18
Quote:BathMatt53
Alfie limping off isn’t good.
Sounds like it came after he made an interception and was at full tilt, fingers crossed it's not too serious.
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Posted by: Francis Allen (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:26
Radio Bristol commentary dire. No idea whose doing what. Nice half time lead the only consolation.
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:27
Yes, with Jeanes scoring all 3 tries are from the young lads.
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Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:47
28-5 now, with Griffin the latest scorer
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Posted by: BucksBBandW (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:55
Quote:Yes, seems a bit pro-Bris, like they've forgotten that they're also providing the Bath coverage. Clearly the 3rd XV commentary team for the Cup.Francis Allen
Radio Bristol commentary dire. No idea whose doing what. Nice half time lead the only consolation.
Tom de Glanville - Adopted player 2024-5
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Posted by: Mike the Taxi (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 20:57
Does this competition give bonus points for tries?
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Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:01
Griffin has a second, now 35-12
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Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:01
Bath pulling away now at 12-42. Latest a maul try by Kepu.
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Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:03
Bristol with own maul try. 19-42.
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Posted by: Susanne (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:04
Live text commentary in the Chron is pretty helpful
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:10
As an aside, I wonder what Orlando Bailey is thinking playing in young Tigers team up at Newcastle? Sounds like a pretty horrible match.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
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Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:12
Butt gets try No 7. Now 19-49. TdG off, Linegar on.
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:14
Sounds like a real thumping in the end, like the 1st 15 game last week it sounds like Bears have offered very little. 3 wins for Bath vs Bristol in 3 weeks across the various comps, great work lads.
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Posted by: Francis Allen (IP Logged)
Date: 31/10/2025 21:32
A very satisfying result, I'm regretting my decision not to go to the game. Listening to Mr Derrick of Radio Bristol was very frustrating.
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Posted by: boozeboozebooze (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 07:12
Just seen on Alfie's socials that he went to a Halloween party after the game last night (with TdG and Ross Moloney as the 3 from The Hangover), hopefully a sign that the Bath medical team didn't feel the need to send him off for immediate scans/put him on crutches.
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Posted by: A.M 180 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 08:39
I'm not sure a nuclear apocalypse would stop Alfie finding the party
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Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 09:56
Kepu and Billy Sela show exceptional ball handling skills (3times) in that clip, thanks.
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 10:15
Alfie looks like a rampaging grizzly bear at that start of that clip!
The Bristol board appears to be denying that the game actually occurred.
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The Bristol board appears to be denying that the game actually occurred.
[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]
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Posted by: WasBBWBaaBaa (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 10:31
Quote - "The Bristol board appears to be denying that the game actually occurred."
All very quiet there.... Having said that, I have seen a few comments from Bath supporters about Bristol that disappointed me! Don't give me the "they started it" line!
All very quiet there.... Having said that, I have seen a few comments from Bath supporters about Bristol that disappointed me! Don't give me the "they started it" line!
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Posted by: Widcombe boy (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 11:02
Quote:WasBBWBaaBaa
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1969625640484543
Wow that is some try!!!
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Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 11:04
Quote:🤣A.M 180
I'm not sure a nuclear apocalypse would stop Alfie finding the party
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Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 11:10
Good interplay, handling, delayed passes, etc. in that try. Also it sounds like TDG was excellent off the tee even out wide and I’m less worried that we have him and Mojo and Redpath who can cover 10 at a push. On top of Russell/Donoghue/Carreras/Linegar, that’s a lot of resilience.
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Posted by: Mike the Taxi (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 13:38
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Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 01/11/2025 18:30
I am really looking forward to the next Premiership Cup game at home.
The "Junior Barmy Army" is looking good.
The "Junior Barmy Army" is looking good.
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Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 00:50
Quote:hasta
Highlights: [youtu.be]
(legitimately Bath Uni vs Exeter Uni had better coverage than this. Joke competition.)
That's not a criticism those highlights is it? More the lack of coverage by TNT and the organisers I assume. Is Charlie Griffin a Will Butt clone?
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Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 09:43
Quote:shipwreckedQuote:hasta
Highlights: [youtu.be]
(legitimately Bath Uni vs Exeter Uni had better coverage than this. Joke competition.)
That's not a criticism those highlights is it? More the lack of coverage by TNT and the organisers I assume. Is Charlie Griffin a Will Butt clone?
It's mostly a criticism of the competition and their tendering of TV coverage, do TNT even have the rights? Given they've got the Autumn Internationals I don't blame them for not caring about this, but why not try and get them somewhere else.
In terms of this specific coverage, the audio was pretty ropey and the analysis worse (and more biased) than Bath Uni Vs Ex Uni with Kept.
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Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 10:09
Quote:hasta
In terms of this specific coverage, the audio was pretty ropey and the analysis worse (and more biased) than Bath Uni Vs Ex Uni with Kept.
These are the guys that do the University BUCS streaming, they do it on a budget and from a single scaffold tower. They have there own style I agree but usually get player form one of the clubs in co-commentary. Kepu has done it and was excellent. That might be a bit harsh.
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Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 10:22
It was mostly a comment on the audio quality. Which was bad.
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Posted by: Francis Allen (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 11:59
It's not a joke competition in my opinion, it has it's faults, e.g. Championship clubs barred and TNT coverage but it's great to see our academy players in action representing Bath, the club managed it very well last season within the spirit of the competition and the players clearly have enjoyed it and stepped up. I miss the old A league but this is a good alternative.
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Posted by: dcsh (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 12:00
Quote:I looked for highlights in the Premiership website yesterday and was met with a questionnaire about if I would like them to stream Prem Cup matches, so I would guess coverage is up in the air and they are working out if they can be bothered to do it… Frankly a couple of cameras that are also used for the TMO and a single commentator would be sufficient.hastaQuote:shipwreckedQuote:hasta
Highlights: [youtu.be]
(legitimately Bath Uni vs Exeter Uni had better coverage than this. Joke competition.)
That's not a criticism those highlights is it? More the lack of coverage by TNT and the organisers I assume. Is Charlie Griffin a Will Butt clone?
It's mostly a criticism of the competition and their tendering of TV coverage, do TNT even have the rights? Given they've got the Autumn Internationals I don't blame them for not caring about this, but why not try and get them somewhere else.
In terms of this specific coverage, the audio was pretty ropey and the analysis worse (and more biased) than Bath Uni Vs Ex Uni with Kept.
Edit: Just watched the highlights and heard them say there was no TMO…
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Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 19:52
Looks like we need to win both last 2 with at least 1 try bonus to qualify and even that might not be enough
Getting zip from first game was unfortunate
Getting zip from first game was unfortunate
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Posted by: BathMan in Oxford (IP Logged)
Date: 02/11/2025 20:02
I think there are both home and away games against each opponent in the group stages so there are still 6 rounds to play.
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Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2025 08:11
Quote:BathMan in Oxford
I think there are both home and away games against each opponent in the group stages so there are still 6 rounds to play.
Thanks, hadn't understood that
Going to make for some interesting selections if more injuries
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Posted by: Barfboy (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2025 10:02
Quote:gaz59Quote:BathMan in Oxford
I think there are both home and away games against each opponent in the group stages so there are still 6 rounds to play.
Thanks, hadn't understood that
Going to make for some interesting selections if more injuries
So we play some teams in the league at least 4 times a season now? Possibly 5 and maybe even 6 if you meet in Europe. Wouldn't it be good if we could mix it up? Y'know, with teams from, say, another English league?
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Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2025 10:11
Quote:BarfboyQuote:gaz59Quote:BathMan in Oxford
I think there are both home and away games against each opponent in the group stages so there are still 6 rounds to play.
Thanks, hadn't understood that
Going to make for some interesting selections if more injuries
So we play some teams in the league at least 4 times a season now? Possibly 5 and maybe even 6 if you meet in Europe. Wouldn't it be good if we could mix it up? Y'know, with teams from, say, another English league?
Perhaps we could include clubs from the Championship (Champ), that might work!
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Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2025 12:17
Far too radical Shippie!
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Posted by: dcsh (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2025 17:21
Quote:It was the Championship Clubs what withdrew from the Premiership Cup. I’m not sure what they thought they were achieving with that protest apart from removing several opportunities to get big crowds to see them play top level teams… It feels like long term they might have been better sucking up the feeling that they weren’t equal partners in the competitions development and celebrated the added expose it gave them.shipwreckedQuote:BarfboyQuote:gaz59Quote:BathMan in Oxford
I think there are both home and away games against each opponent in the group stages so there are still 6 rounds to play.
Thanks, hadn't understood that
Going to make for some interesting selections if more injuries
So we play some teams in the league at least 4 times a season now? Possibly 5 and maybe even 6 if you meet in Europe. Wouldn't it be good if we could mix it up? Y'know, with teams from, say, another English league?
Perhaps we could include clubs from the Championship (Champ), that might work!
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Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2025 20:07
Whatever the reason it was a real shame I enjoyed their involvement.
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Posted by: jayeatman (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2025 12:24
Quote:Barfboy
So we play some teams in the league at least 4 times a season now? Possibly 5 and maybe even 6 if you meet in Europe. Wouldn't it be good if we could mix it up? Y'know, with teams from, say, another English league?
100%!
We played Bristol 5 times last season. (W2 L3)
In theory you could play a team 7 times:
PREM 2
Prem Cup 2
Euro knockouts 1
Prem SF or F
Prem Cup SF or F
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Posted by: Woodpecker (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2025 12:25
Id forgotten they were in it!
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