NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER


Spurrell: inspiration?
By Rokobilly
June 3 2026

It should be quite the occasion, the first of a (probable) double header against one of our oldest rivals.We have been fortunate enough to have seen some very special matches at The Rec in the last 12 months or so and this could be another.It will be billed as a Winner Takes It All scenario which is not quite true. Both teams will definitely play in the semi-finals, the only questions are where and against whom. The importance of this weekend lies in the fact that away semi-final wins are rare beasts. Since 2015, only Quins - in the ridiculous 2021 Bristanbul game - have managed it. And no team finishing third in the league have ever won the final.

After our defeat at Ashton Gate last Friday, the expectation was very simple. Two Bath v Leicester games await, the winner of the first match hosting the more important second. 

Exeter's win at Welford Road on Sunday changed the narrative. Leicester could now finish fourth should they lose and Exeter beat Saracens. Should that come to pass we would host Chiefs and Tigers would travel to Saints. 

Saints were the only one of the top three to win in Round 17 and even then were losing against Gloucester as the clock ticked towards the red. We were poor at Bristol and Leicester were very much second best at home. All three teams are stuttering as the finish line approaches and the momentum seems to lie with the chasing pack.

The concern is that Bath are stuttering more than the others. Our season has begun to look like a marathon runner who started brightly but has hit the wall with just a few miles to go. 

The emotional European knockout stages seem to have robbed us of energy and sharpness in the League. 

I had the opportunity to talk to someone close to the first team squad couple of weeks ago and was left with the feeling that the team are very focused on this week's game. Bristol mattered - derbies always matter - but Leicester was far and above the priority. There was a quiet, unspoken confidence that if we secured a home semi we would go on to win the whole thing.

We will see if the team can come with a renewed attitude, discipline and fluidity this weekend. We can be sure JVG will have been as meticulous in his preparation as ever.

Leicester’s key concern will be at 10. Having lost Handre Pollard after last year's final, they signed three unexpected names for this campaign in Searle, Bailey and O'Connor. 

Two of those, including Prem Player of the Season nominee Searle, are out injured and the third - Bailey - is now firmly established at 12. Young Charlie Titcombe took the shirt against Exeter but relied heavily on the outstanding Bailey who moved seamlessly between first and second receiver. Bath need to ensure we don't give Landy the same space and freedom this weekend. He can expect a few welcome back tackles from the Bath back row.

For all the intrigue of old mates Max v Landy in midfield, it will be the packs and the set piece that will definite the outcome. Our line out was (a little) better against Bristol than in recent weeks; Tigers' was uncharacteristically very poor against Exeter. 

The scrum will be well matched with old heads and canny operators on both sides. Let's hope we get a clean, fair, well officiated battle. It was interesting to hear Radio Leicester's commentators at the weekend suggest that the Tigers style of scrummaging seems to be 'marmite' to referees with some rewarding them frequently whilst others clearly see something illegal in their approach.

Talking of the officials, our penalty count needs to improve. At this stage of the season against a highly physical and capable team, back-to-back offence will give the Tigers maul ample opportunities to score. 

The selection debate is already well underway on a separate thread with the backs the main area of debate. Finn's fitness is the immediate concern with less than encouraging noises coming out of Farleigh House. It may be he is kept back again for the final. If that comes to pass, the task of securing that all important home semi will get a little more difficult than it already is.

Finally, the game will be an opportunity for the club and the city to honour Roger Spurrell who sadly passed away this week.

Roger played in many a battle against Leicester and we could do with a few Spurrell-esque performances this week. The team should lack for nothing in motivation and inspiration. 


 

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 11:05

Great Rokobilly, thanks

As you say -"summon the spirit of Spurrell to stiffen the sinews!"

A win over old rivals would be the most appropriate tribute. As you say, Tigers relied heavily on Orlando Bailey for midfield direction. If Finn is not fit I believe Ciaran Donoghue will want to shake off the rust of last Friday and show why he was edging ahead of Landy at Bath.

Should be a cracker, but we definitely need the crowd to engage. The Rec is often accused of seeming like a library on matchdays. Surely not when Tigers are in town?

COYB!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: theredseat (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 11:22

I think the point on the Tigers scrum is a good one, Rokobilly. Nicky Smith is a top player but he's not the most powerful loosehead. He seems to get success by finding ways to manipulate an advantage rather than over powering an oppponent and some referees are going to take against that if they think he's not straight or whatever. Similarities with Paul James to my eye.

Incidentally Smith and Beno are listed as the same weight online and I can't believe Beno doesn't have 5-10 kgs on him in reality.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: dr.bath1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 11:41

Great write up. And absolutely expecting a performance that Spurrell would be proud of.

Fascinating to see if TDT starts. The Bath Bomb has been downgraded of late, in part thanks to a few injuries and suspensions, and our ability to win games in the final quarter has really been neutralised. Interesting to see if JVG thinks we can risk holding Kepu, VW, TDT, Hill, Underhill, Barbeary back on the bench, despite the reputation of Smith, Heyes, Martin etc at the set piece. I'd go full Bomb. Seek parity for 50 minutes then introduce all 6 of them to get the crowd up for the final push also.

Exciting. Come on you Bath.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 12:17

Nicky Smith is a wily operator at the scrum. He is also often penalised for packing at an angle and for dropping the scrum/his bind.

Let us hope our players can expose his illegality - to blunt Tiger power and give us penalties and field position.

PG

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 12:18

Many thanks Rokobilly. How Tigers react to last week’s sloppy performance against a very good Exeter and who gets the 10 shirt will be key to our fortunes or lack thereof.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 12:30

Sounds like Finn could be a doubt

Quote:
JVG (somersetlive)
“If we just look at the facts. On the weekend of the 13th, we are playing a semi-final, and we want our best available team ready for then. We will take our time with it and make a decision whether he plays [against Leicester] or we hold him back another week.”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 12:55

Quote:
by
Sounds like Finn could be a doubt
Quote:
JVG (somersetlive)
“If we just look at the facts. On the weekend of the 13th, we are playing a semi-final, and we want our best available team ready for then. We will take our time with it and make a decision whether he plays [against Leicester] or we hold him back another week.”


Does doesn't it. Frankly I'm a bit bewildered. For consistency we should select Donoghue at 10 and bring back TDG at 15 but that leaves out Santi.

Surely Santi was bought for just this eventuality to drop in if Finn ever had a problem. Thing is though Santi has played 12 times at 15 and only 2 at 10 this season. Hardly a seamlessly bedded in fly half.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 13:09

If Finn isn't fit it has to be Santi at 10, I'd also leave out OL as he hasn't played anywhere near his capabilities this season.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: tigerburnie (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 13:10

Have a look at the Tigers replacement loosehead, Archie Van Der Flier, he will be better than Nicky, one to watch, came through our academy.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 13:17

Quote:
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Have a look at the Tigers replacement loosehead, Archie Van Der Flier, he will be better than Nicky, one to watch, came through our academy.

Yep, was very good recently, thought he had a good game against Sale.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Treble (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 13:35

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Bath strong favourites (again) for this home fixture. Our recent form doesn't give me much confidence, Tigers have been mixed too, brilliant v Saints, less so v Chiefs. Even though we are at home I think it's too close to call. Our recent discipline has been poor, too many cards for sure, poor decision making by individuals leading to penalties as well as putting ourselves under pressure with poor throws, knock ons etc. We haven't been firing for a while now but still hope we get the win...

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 14:38

Santi at 10, Deeg at 15 and Donoghue bench makes the most sense to me as he can cover both positions and fast legs in the last 15 will help. Santi at 10 probably means Mojo at 12 for creativity.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 15:33

This weekend's match official appointments:

Saturday 6 June

Bath Rugby v Leicester Tigers - 3:15pm, live on TNT Sports and ITV
Referee: Ian Tempest
ARs: Sara Cox & Jonathan Healy
TMO: Adam Leal


Exeter Chiefs v Saracens - 3:15pm, live on HBO Max
Referee: Karl Dickson
ARs: Luke Pearce & Jamie Leahy
TMO: Andrew Jackson

Gloucester Rugby v Newcastle Red Bulls - 3:15pm, live on HBO Max
Referee: Joe James
ARs: Jamie Parr & Wayne Falla
TMO: David Rose

Harlequins v Northampton Saints - 3:15pm, live on HBO Max
Referee: Craig Maxwell-Keys
ARs: Harry Walbaum & Hamish Grant
TMO: Hamish Smales

Sale Sharks v Bristol Bears - 3:15pm, live on HBO Max
Referee: Anthony Woodthorpe
ARs: Dan Jones & Gareth Holsgrove
TMO: Peter Allan

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 15:48

ITV have changed their live game to Exeter v Sarries according to social media

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Treble (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 16:04

Quote:
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ITV have changed their live game to Exeter v Sarries according to social media

Makes sense if so, more jeopardy in that match for the neutral fan

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BucksBBandW (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 16:56

Quote:
Rawce
Santi at 10, Deeg at 15 and Donoghue bench makes the most sense to me as he can cover both positions and fast legs in the last 15 will help. Santi at 10 probably means Mojo at 12 for creativity.

Completely agree, Santi's experience could be crucial. It just feels too important to risk CD's inexperience and potential on Saturday. Max and either Hennessy or Cam in the centres. What's the Leicester situation at FH at the moment?

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 18:14

Really enjoyed the report.

Feels like the headline is more appropriate than ever!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: dr.bath1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 18:40

Parling: “One of the 10s is closer than the others; the other 10 and Freddie, we will be lucky if we get them back before the season ends. Let’s just keep plugging away and see where we get to,” he said.

“One (10) still has some things to tick off before the weekend and one is definitely not playing.”


I'm guessing that it'll be 10 Bailey 12 Kata, which would make things even more interesting, especially if he lines up opposite Donoghue, the young upstart who (kind of) nicked his shirt!

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 19:02

Personally I’d stick to CD if Finn is out. Redpath in for OL. He’d have learned a lot last week, despite not really doing much wrong.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Old Bath Tub (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 19:25

Definitely Santi at 10 , Tom at 15 and CD on the bench if Finn not fit . (Sm128) IMHO
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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 19:34

Quote:
by
He’d have learned a lot last week, despite not really doing much wrong.

Not really the time for learning, that would have been vs Newcastle IMO. I'm on the Santi at 10 team given that he has played so many high pressure matches in that position (for Argentina). Agree CD on the bench is fine to cover 10 or 15. TDG at 15 for sure - literally a safe pair of hands.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 19:52

I know it’s a home game and we go strong because we want to maximise points but I’d have had CD at 10 vs Newcastle to help shake off the rust. I’d have said TdG 15 and Santi cover but wasn’t TdG out injured these last two games? Anyway, hindsight and all that.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/06/2026 22:01

No CD in the 23 against falcons continues to blow my mind.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: theredseat (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 08:29

Quote:
dr.bath1865
Parling: “One of the 10s is closer than the others; the other 10 and Freddie, we will be lucky if we get them back before the season ends. Let’s just keep plugging away and see where we get to,” he said.
“One (10) still has some things to tick off before the weekend and one is definitely not playing.”


I'm guessing that it'll be 10 Bailey 12 Kata, which would make things even more interesting, especially if he lines up opposite Donoghue, the young upstart who (kind of) nicked his shirt!

Bit of a pinch of salt but O'Driscoll made a comment after the Exeter game that he'd heard Searle was back in training so wonder if he's in the frame for Saturday

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Widcombe boy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:03

Quote:
Charlieboa1
No CD in the 23 against falcons continues to blow my mind.
I wonder if it was because of the pitch Charlie?

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:20

What do you mean Widcombe Boy?

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:28

Artificial pitch? Has he had joint issues?

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:29

I really can’t see the logic of selecting OL He will get back to top form but he needs a summer of recovery to do so. We have two excellent alternatives in Cam & Hennessy. I favour the latter at present.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Benisjammin (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:30

Wasn't the Newcastle game a home game though? The Rec isn't an artificial pitch.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:32

Precisely!

I was there and have to say the last 20 minutes felt a bit embarrassing.....however then the next week they go and bit Sale so I then felt a bit better for them(Sm108)

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Widcombe boy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:39

[quote Bath Supporter Jack]What do you mean Widcombe Boy?[/quot
Plastic pitch BSJ

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Widcombe boy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 09:42

Oops !🫣

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Barfboy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 12:06

Quote:
Rawce
Santi at 10, Deeg at 15 and Donoghue bench makes the most sense to me as he can cover both positions and fast legs in the last 15 will help. Santi at 10 probably means Mojo at 12 for creativity.

This.

Am sure Underhill will be instructed to tickle the ribs of OB2(?). Feels like we really need to target him to disrupt their attack, which is about as a big a compliment to the lad as I can pay him. Seems to have turned into the player Bath knew he could be.

Mentioned in another thread that their backline seems pretty small though, so Barbeary from the off running straight at 10 and 12 seems logical. Expect Kata to start to counter that threat though.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Old Bath Tub (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 13:41

Quote:
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Expect Kata to start to counter that threat though.

I heard he was good at cards ! (Sm100)

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 13:43

Quote:
Old Bath Tub
Quote:
Barfboy
Expect Kata to start to counter that threat though.

I heard he was good at cards ! (Sm100)

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 13:47

Isn't the team usually announced by now?

Holding on for Finn?

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: theredseat (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 13:52

Quote:
shipwrecked
Isn't the team usually announced by now?
Holding on for Finn?

MiddayFriday for a Saturday game.

Tigers board seems to suggest Woodward back at 12 is more likely than Kata

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Barfboy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 14:30

Quote:
theredseat
Quote:
shipwrecked
Isn't the team usually announced by now?
Holding on for Finn?

MiddayFriday for a Saturday game.

Tigers board seems to suggest Woodward back at 12 is more likely than Kata

Thanks for the tip off. Someone also noting they'll have consecutive 6-day turnarounds if they finish 4th and Saints their opponents will likely rotate heavily this weekend, so well rested.

Also that it was Ian Tempest responsible for Smith getting pinged on Sunday. Let's hope Spenny gets in his ear about that nice and early!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 16:05

My guess is we’ll see Bailey at 12

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Bath82 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 16:26

Take this with the usual pinch of salt, but a mate of mine who’s close to a few people in the Tigers camp reckons O’Connor will start on Saturday, just probably won’t last the full 80.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 16:31

It was actually part of the TNT commentary of the Exeter game

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 18:47

It’s a big risk if true!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 19:57

Feels like Bailey has nailed down the 12 shirt for Tigers.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 21:56

Quote:
hasta
Feels like Bailey has nailed down the 12 shirt for Tigers.

Question would be then is he better than Cam or Mojo? I like Landy and am pleased he has found a regular spot in the Prem but it was right for him move on, he wouldn't have dislodged any of our 10s or centres.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 22:13

Yes a good move all round and I’m really chuffed for him. Another Beechen boy doing well!

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 04/06/2026 22:45

Quote:
shipwrecked
Quote:
hasta
Feels like Bailey has nailed down the 12 shirt for Tigers.

Question would be then is he better than Cam or Mojo? I like Landy and am pleased he has found a regular spot in the Prem but it was right for him move on, he wouldn't have dislodged any of our 10s or centres.

No I agree it was right for him, Bath and Tigers for the move.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 07:00

Sadly it’s definitely been the right move for him - would have loved him to stay but the bloom in his career has been fantastic to view.

I still however think that we run Barbs down his channel and get Underhill/Pepper to hit him hard and he will fold. Disrupt him and get parity in the scrum and we win

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 07:43

Quote:
BathMatt53
Yes a good move all round and I’m really chuffed for him. Another Beechen Sixth Former doing well!

He's ready a product of Thomas Hardy School Dorchester and Dorchester RFC.
He only went to BC for 6th form as part of the Bath Academy set up

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 07:48

Quote:
Dorset Boy
Quote:
BathMatt53
Yes a good move all round and I’m really chuffed for him. Another Beechen Sixth Former doing well!

He's ready a product of Thomas Hardy School Dorchester and Dorchester RFC.
He only went to BC for 6th form as part of the Bath Academy set up

Fair enough DB, wrist duly slapped! Didn't Ethan Staddon and a couple of others also come through Dorchester RFC?

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 08:07

Pretty sure staddon was Dorchester yep.

V pleased for Orlando, will always maintain we mismanaged him badly (know others disagree).

Agree we are well covered at 12. One argument that could be made was to have kept landy to cover 10/12/15, don't sign santi..... spend the big salary differential on a lock. Hard to turn down the opp of signing someone as good as santi I guess- think they didn't foresee how well and quickly donoghue would kick on.

Imagine all options were investigated.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 08:54

Quote:
BathMatt53
Quote:
Dorset Boy
Quote:
BathMatt53
Yes a good move all round and I’m really chuffed for him. Another Beechen Sixth Former doing well!

He's ready a product of Thomas Hardy School Dorchester and Dorchester RFC.
He only went to BC for 6th form as part of the Bath Academy set up

Fair enough DB, wrist duly slapped! Didn't Ethan Staddon and a couple of others also come through Dorchester RFC?

Staddon and John Stewart all part of the same age group team at Dorchester.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: A.M 180 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 09:08

Quote:
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Agree we are well covered at 12. One argument that could be made was to have kept landy to cover 10/12/15, don't sign santi..... spend the big salary differential on a lock. Hard to turn down the opp of signing someone as good as santi I guess- think they didn't foresee how well and quickly donoghue would kick on.
I could be misremembering what happened last season, but it feels like it might have been quite late (mutual) decision to let him leave? Parling was quite a late appointment if memory serves me

I thought Orlando looked his best ever in a Bath shirt at times last year, particularly when not at 10. I guess the club maybe saw that as well, and the stocks at 12 and 15 and came to the fair decision

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 09:17

Quote:
A.M 180
Quote:
Charlieboa1



Agree we are well covered at 12. One argument that could be made was to have kept landy to cover 10/12/15, don't sign santi..... spend the big salary differential on a lock. Hard to turn down the opp of signing someone as good as santi I guess- think they didn't foresee how well and quickly donoghue would kick on.
I could be misremembering what happened last season, but it feels like it might have been quite late (mutual) decision to let him leave? Parling was quite a late appointment if memory serves me

I thought Orlando looked his best ever in a Bath shirt at times last year, particularly when not at 10. I guess the club maybe saw that as well, and the stocks at 12 and 15 and came to the fair decision

Landy also got injured just as the Prem Cup started during the 6N - and then Donaghue got his opportunity and didn't look back. He had really unlucky timing.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Ali1969 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 09:17

It is always great to see local lads doing well, but I think it is hard to argue especially with Orlando that for whatever reason it did not happen for him, he just failed to kick on and nail down a starting berth despite being given so many opportunities others did not have. Sometimes for no reason it just doesn't work - Freddie Burns comes to mind for me.

At the end of the day I really like Orlando but IMHO he is not better than Cam R, Max O, Ollie L, Will B or Louis H and he certainly is not in the same postcode at present to Finn or Santi C (even though we have yet to see his best), that is not to say he may in time elevate himself towards that status who knows.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: dr.bath1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 09:31

I think that some players just get unlucky with the timing of their careers (or parts of their careers).

Some of the 03 Eng players weren't world class but they were fortunate to be play in an era with Johnson, Dallaglio, Wilkinson, Robinson etc and top coaches. Bailey suffered, and it didn't work out with us, because he reached first XV rugby age at a time when the club was in a complete mess in the Hooper era. Donoghue has emerged into a rock solid structure, surrounded by confident players and coaches. They seem like similar quality players (although with different skills sets) but on different trajectories with Bath because of their surroundings. Just timing. Like for all of us! We could have been born in the Middle Ages lol!

Interestingly I saw a stat about how Orlando has made more dominant tackles than any other 12 in the Prem. So whilst I like the idea of running Alfie down his channel, it might not work as his defence is actually pretty strong. More interestingly I think is their decision to stick with Titcombe (or a fit again fly half) at 10 and Landy at 12 or move Landy. With my BB&W specs on, I hope they move him to 10 as I think Leicester's strength as been Landy and Wand creating space for Radwan and OHC. Move him, and bring in Kata, and you maybe have a better 10 on the field for them, but that cohesion drops. So our best tactic is hoping OConnor is still out, Parling blinks, Landy goes to 10 and their wingers get much less space.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 09:38

Quote:
Dorset Boy
John Stewart all part of the same age group team at Dorchester.

The contrast between Landy's development at Tigers with that of John Stewart is pretty stark - the latter having played a total of 251 mins, mostly at Cambridge who finished rock bottom where he played a few times as sub.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 09:42

Quote:
BathMatt53
Quote:
Dorset Boy
John Stewart all part of the same age group team at Dorchester.

The contrast between Landy's development at Tigers with that of John Stewart is pretty stark - the latter having played a total of 251 mins, mostly at Cambridge who finished rock bottom where he played a few times as sub.

John Stewart seemed to be trapped as a hooker who had difficulty hitting the target, great around the pitch and I seem to remember he played flanker at one point. A hooker who can't do the nuts and bolts will always struggle.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 11:00

Quote:
shipwrecked
John Stewart seemed to be trapped as a hooker who had difficulty hitting the target

It does seem to be a Bath theme which would seem to suggest that its more than the darts of the hooker that are to blame...

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 11:23

Quote:
BathMatt53
Quote:
shipwrecked
John Stewart seemed to be trapped as a hooker who had difficulty hitting the target

It does seem to be a Bath theme which would seem to suggest that its more than the darts of the hooker that are to blame...

Its a strange one isn't it, watching uni rugby Spandler, Kepu, Pearce didn't seem to have a problem and they won more than their share of lineouts. Has to be practice doesn't it. Jamie George doesn't have a problem. Throwing video.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 11:58

Team up. Carreras at 10.

Bath Rugby: 1 Beno Obano, 2 Kepueli Tuipulotu, 3 Thomas du Toit, 4 Ted Hill, 5 Charlie Ewels, 6 Josh Bayliss, 7 Sam Underhill, 8 Alfie Barbeary, 9 Ben Spencer (c), 10 Santi Carreras, 11 Henry Arundell, 12 Max Ojomoh, 13 Ollie Lawrence, 14 Joe Cokanasiga, 15 Tom de Glanville

Replacements: 16 Dan Frost, 17 Francois van Wyk, 18 Vilikesa Sela, 19 Ross Molony, 20 Ewan Richards, 21 Tom Carr-Smith, 22 Cameron Redpath, 23 Miles Reid

Unavailable for selection are Jaco Coetzee, Tom Cowan, Harvey Cuckson, Tom Dunn, Sam Harris, Louie Hennessey, Will Muir, Guy Pepper, Quinn Roux, Finn Russell and Will Stuart.

PG

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: theredseat (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 11:58

Bath Rugby: 1 Beno Obano, 2 Kepueli Tuipulotu, 3 Thomas du Toit, 4 Ted Hill, 5 Charlie Ewels, 6 Josh Bayliss, 7 Sam Underhill, 8 Alfie Barbeary, 9 Ben Spencer (c), 10 Santi Carreras, 11 Henry Arundell, 12 Max Ojomoh, 13 Ollie Lawrence, 14 Joe Cokanasiga, 15 Tom de Glanville

Replacements: 16 Dan Frost, 17 Francois van Wyk, 18 Vilikesa Sela, 19 Ross Molony, 20 Ewan Richards, 21 Tom Carr-Smith, 22 Cameron Redpath, 23 Miles Reid



15. George Pearson (13)
14. Adam Radwan (31)
13. Will Wand (38)
12. Orlando Bailey (26)
11. Gabriel Hamer-Webb (14)
10. James O’Connor (12)
9. Jack van Poortvliet (112)
1. Nicky Smith (44)
2. Jamie Blamire (24)
3. Joe Heyes (181)
4. Cameron Henderson (84)
5. Ollie Chessum © (84)
6. Hanro Liebenberg (150)
7. Tommy Reffell (155)
8. Olly Cracknell (84)

Replacements
16. Charlie Clare (147)
17. Archie van der Flier (24)
18. Will Hurd (77)
19. George Martin (78)
20. Hamish Watson (5)
21. Charlie Bemand (8)
22. Solomone Kata (56)
23. Izaia Perese (29)

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: theredseat (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:00

Wondered if Pepper was injured given how early he went off at Bristol. Hopefully nothing serious but we're well stocked there. Real shame Hennessey is done for the season as well

Strange looking bench for Leicester. A pair of 12s and a scrum half due to make his first Prem appearance

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:01

Hennessy needs shoulder operation - result of an injury sustained in Bordeaux - a match that has made a costly dent in our season.

Not sure what is the matter with Pepper.

PG

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:02

I think that just goes to show that it's how a hooker deals with the pressure rather than the ability to chuck a rugby ball that matters. A recently retired Prem hooker talked me through the process quite recently - stressing how hard it is to go from the mayhem and high heart-rate of flying round the pitch one minute, to the still-small-moment-of-calm that is required to process a sometimes complex call and calmly hit the target the next. Left me with my head spinning!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Ayerzawannabe (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:04

Quote:
theredseat
Wondered if Pepper was injured given how early he went off at Bristol. Hopefully nothing serious but we're well stocked there. Real shame Hennessey is done for the season as well
Strange looking bench for Leicester. A pair of 12s and a scrum half due to make his first Prem appearance

Perese is a 13
Wand covers wing

I will say Bemand is a class prospect

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: dr.bath1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:07

Injuries mounting just when we could have done without them! But hey ho- still a strong squad and hoping Pepper and Russell will be back next week, as we'll need them wherever we end up playing! They seem to have either dropped or lost to injury Whiteley, Moro (good news for us) and OHC. Looks like Henderson is picked to go after our line out, so Kepu and Ewels will have to be on the money.

Fascinating match up at 10 between two international class 15s playing 10. Box office stuff at the Rec and I've got a good feeling that home advantage will see us through in a high scoring game. Allez Bath!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Barfboy (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:08

Struggling to separate those 2 teams in any meaningful way. Going to be an absolute humdinger! Can't wait.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: theredseat (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:14

Their team annoucement isn't clear on unavailability so assume Moro and OHC are injured. Think our backrow has the edge with them missing Moro and Ilione. If you limit Reffell's turnover chances I think he's quite limited outside of that so asks a lot of others which could help us.

Should be a tight one but have to have faith in us on our own patch

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:16

I have to say my one concern is Lawrence who seems well off the pace but without Hennessey who we could really do with we have to rely on him & Cam. I imagine it will be a highly attritional encounter. Not over confident based on recent form.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:28

Really like the look of that that team but as ever it (obviously) depends on their mental preparedness. Happy to see Carreras at 10, him and OL need to show their best form, they are certainly capable.

Shame about Hennessey, Harvey Cuckson and Sam Harris have already left Bath I think (Exeter certainly announced that SH was with immediate effect) so not surprised they are unavailable...

Looks like rain for the match which is a shame.

COYB!!

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Ali1969 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:34

Wise move IMHO in relation to Russell - it is more important he is fully fit for next week no matter where it is - potentially Pepper and anyone else carrying an injury - from what I have heard Russell, Roux, Dunn and unbelievably Bernard VDL all should be fit for next week.

We know what we are going to have tomorrow, we need to front up as a 23 - the bench needs to make an impact - Thomas DT starting is obviously to tie Nicky Smith down like he did with Genge.

Let us go down to the Rec and make some noise - Cheer our boys home - Weather looking wet and breezy.

COYB.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:37

Santi could really play down a marker as to why he was bought over to Bath - show us what he can do at 10!

Good looking team, same with Tigers too be fair. Should be a cracking game!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:40

Going to need that home advantage! Think Tigers look slightly stronger on paper personally.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Shadders (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 12:57

Quote:
by
Going to need that home advantage! Think Tigers look slightly stronger on paper personally.

Come on By... in the backs they have two players we clearly decided to let go (rightly or wrongly) and for me only Radwan I'd swap in to our team (Wand close, but OL is going to step it up on Sat)

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 13:20

Orlando being let go is an assumption - he may have sought a move when he realised that Donoghue's rise and Carreras' signing stacked the odds against regular starts.

He was about to get an A cap when injured, so I expect he is ambitious to push on.

PG

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 13:22

The whole team needs to move up a gear and lay down a serious challenge to the rest of the top 4 tomorrow - I really hope we do!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: makeitagem (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 13:24

Discipline will be crucial tomorrow, can't remember the last time we kept 15 on the pitch for 80 minutes.

Crowd need to be the 16th man tomorrow.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 13:48

I know both teams have had wobbles in recent games but I worry Tigers have the edge mentally. The lure of turning us over to get a home SF will be a significant driver. We need to be at our best for the next 2/3 games. If we believe we can blow any team away on our day, then now is the time to bring it out of the cupboard.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER
Posted by: Susanne (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 13:58

Quote:
Optimist
I think that just goes to show that it's how a hooker deals with the pressure rather than the ability to chuck a rugby ball that matters. A recently retired Prem hooker talked me through the process quite recently - stressing how hard it is to go from the mayhem and high heart-rate of flying round the pitch one minute, to the still-small-moment-of-calm that is required to process a sometimes complex call and calmly hit the target the next. Left me with my head spinning!

Thanks Opti, that's a really interesting perspective and we should keep it on speed dial 'ere when the criticism is peaking!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Old Bath Tub (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 14:41

Quote:
P G Tips
Hennessy needs shoulder operation - result of an injury sustained in Bordeaux - a match that has made a costly dent in our season.
Not sure what is the matter with Pepper.

PG

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: by (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 14:54

I think Tiger's have the best defence in the league according the stats shown last weekend, they also appear to be up there with best scrum and line out - both sides of the ball.

Bath defensively have been OK (3rd in the infographic if I recall). However a large part of that is down to territory being at the forefront of our game plan and without Finn we do seem to struggle to find space in the backfield as easily.

Set piece has been pretty poor all season I'd say, particularly the line out. Down to constant rotation of the team maybe?

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 14:59

Hmm, that looks a bit like a Tiger Bomb comparing the benches

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 15:13

Our defence and lineout were appalling last week.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 15:17

Quote:
Shadders
Quote:
by
Going to need that home advantage! Think Tigers look slightly stronger on paper personally.

Come on By... in the backs they have two players we clearly decided to let go (rightly or wrongly) and for me only Radwan I'd swap in to our team (Wand close, but OL is going to step it up on Sat)

Who would you have Radwan over, particularly considering we have the Horse waiting in the wings.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Barfboy (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 15:23

Quote:
makeitagem
Discipline will be crucial tomorrow, can't remember the last time we kept 15 on the pitch for 80 minutes.
Crowd need to be the 16th man tomorrow.

10 yellows this season but only Quins and Tigers are in single figures. Tigers also lowest penalty count in the league.

They are also well clear of any other team when it comes to kicking penalties (20 vs our 6) so you're right - need to be squeaky clean tomorrow or they will take the points whenever possible it seems.

Strangely, Northampton have worst discipline in the PREM - highest yellows (14) and most penalties conceded too. Didn't expect that.



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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Marjo20 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 15:57

Must say I'm a big fan of the team picked! TDG will just be that bit safer at 15 and Santi can take the reins of the attack at 10. He has always looked better when he is the focal point of the attack (as does any player).
The thing that concerns me a touch is their pack as it seems a little beefier than ours. I suppose that's expected with no Dunn, Roux and Pepper but I still have faith that Underhill will make some (legal) tackling dents

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Shadders (IP Logged)
Date: 05/06/2026 21:49

Quote:
Bath Hammer
Quote:
Shadders
Quote:
by
Going to need that home advantage! Think Tigers look slightly stronger on paper personally.

Come on By... in the backs they have two players we clearly decided to let go (rightly or wrongly) and for me only Radwan I'd swap in to our team (Wand close, but OL is going to step it up on Sat)

Who would you have Radwan over, particularly considering we have the Horse waiting in the wings.

Henry on recent form, but not too much in it - hopefully he can prove me wrong. A few too many defensive errors from HA and doesn’t look quite as engaged as at the start of the season.

Fair point on Landy PG…

We should have enough though and I like Miles coming off the bench - both making an impact and covering a lot of ground in defense when oppo might be chasing the game

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 00:10

This is a huge game. If we lose we are unlikely to turn it round away from home & that will be our season & effectively our era at an end after just one Premiership title. I know we did pretty well against BB but we threw everything into that game & losing was a huge blow mentally. We then lose to two local rivals & had a patchy game against Newcastle. The backline failed to function & our discipline has evaporated. I’ll be hugely relieved if we get over the line.



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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 05:58

Hopefully the crowd can play a big part.

Think in this run of 1 win in 5 we haven't lost at home?

Sure the boys will be v pleased to be back at yhe rec.

Like the squad, minimal changes and will be a little refresh aswell next week no doubt with dunn and roux back ( and hopefully pepper and finn)

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BeatsWorking (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 08:38

Can't wait. Hope the rain stays away and love that the stakes are so high. Some interesting narratives waiting to be written too...

Can Ollie rediscover his form just in time? Can Kepu really nail down that no.2 jersey? Can Santi showcase his international form and class? Will this be TdT's final game at the Rec?

Bring it on!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 08:41

Can Ollie rediscover his form just in time? Yes
Can Kepu really nail down that no.2 jersey? Yes
Can Santi showcase his international form and class? Yes
Will this be TdT's final game at the Rec? No
Bring it on! Agreed!

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 08:47

Someone on Facebook saying Finn started running yesterday with no reaction, will train all next week to be ready for the Semi.

Rings true with that JvG said.

Such a luxury to bring Santi in as replacement, I can only really think of Saints as team able to lose their first choice 10 and bring in such a high class replacement.

Discipline will be so important today, got to keep 14 on the field. Weather horrible so potentially lots of scrums, TdT has got to keep Nicky Smith honest, hopefully Sir makes sure he’s straight and not his usual 90 degree job.

Nervous for this one, don’t really want to be driving to Northampton or Leicester next weekend!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 08:58

Rob - we need to keep 15 on the field, not the 14 in your post!

Fingers crossed Nicky Smith isn't allowed to scrum at his usual 90 degrees

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 09:04

Looks like the weather is going to play a big factor in the result which is a shame. Fingers crossed for not too many lineouts.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 09:10

Sounds a bit salty but the reffing of nicky smith at Welford Rd was fairly bizarre and was massively important- totally destabilised us.

Fair play to smith , he is excellent and experienced enough to know when he is going to get a free pass off the officials and take full advantage. Big loss for Tigers and a big gain for sale.

He was against stuart most of that game. I think tdt can handle him even at 90 degrees if needed.

Tbf we were poor all round that day, really bad performance! Need to be a lot better today cos Leicester are much better now.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 09:14

Just seen the ref is Tempest which means there’s no chance of a flowing and entertaining game and little chance Bath go the whole game with 15 on the pitch. IMO clearly the worst ref in the PL.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 09:45

Maybe someone has already pointed it out but I have noticed that our match is now on HBO. Interesting that they have 2 players displayed who are not playing!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 10:08

Quote:
Dorset Boy
Rob - we need to keep 15 on the field, not the 14 in your post!
Fingers crossed Nicky Smith isn't allowed to scrum at his usual 90 degrees

Freudian slip strikes again!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Susanne (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 12:38

Raining hard in Bath so, even if it wasn't already, it's a game for the forwards!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 12:40

Quote:
Susanne
Raining hard in Bath so, even if it wasn't already, it's a game for the forwards!

Yes not ideal for Bath considering that our forwards would suit a dry track. Tigers will be happy.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:00

Very tight by the sounds of it.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:00

Frustrating - JvP blatant forward pass missed, Bath then penalised. Tigers go to corner and score during the blackout. TMO should have told Tempo about the pass.

2 missed conversions by Bath crucial at the moment in a very even game.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:01

Weather a big equaliser thus far. Scrums messy and ball a bar of soap.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:03

Got so in to my pre-match routine to calm myself down I missed the first five minutes!

Close close game so far. TdT has Nicky Smith on toast thank goodness.

We have the power game to win this, we just need to play sensible rugby from here on out.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:05

Tense and messy

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:08

TNT coverage pretty poor

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Marjo20 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:13

Huge second half. They’ve moved Bailey to 10. Let’s hope that Santi can put on a clinic to show why we signed him

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Mike the Taxi (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:27

Tri/Try time tor TdT!!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:30

Can someone explain why Leicester haven’t even been warned for a YC yet?

’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:45

Be quite good if we catch the ball

’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Marjo20 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:49

De Glanville has been absolutely phenomenal. His consistency at 15 is so important for us defensively!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 16:56

We are making some really poor decisions- just need to kick the leather off the ball and we’re playing phases and turning it over

’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Pulteneyfan (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:00

Fair play to Tigers ...they played superbly today. That pack is very impressive with Ilione to come back

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:00

Hard. To. Beat.

TdG played himself into the starting XV for me.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Mike the Taxi (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:00

Phew!! There is a god!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:02

Get in boys - think we deserved the rub of the green given Tigers should have been yellow carded

’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Blues (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:04

Well done lads.

Chiefs are going to be tough.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:04

Quote:
hasta
Hard. To. Beat.
TdG played himself into the starting XV for me.

Agreed and makes sense that Santi covers off bench. He played well at 10 - issues lie in midfield and surely Ollie needs a rest

’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:04

Quote:
Toast and Marmite
Get in boys - think we deserved the rub of the green given Tigers should have been yellow carded

Don’t understand how Tigers can give 5+ penalties in the 22 and not get a warning because we score the tries, and 3 penalties for us is a yellow.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Blues (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:05

Fancy Tigers to beat Saints.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Blues (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:05

Quote:
BathRob
Quote:
Toast and Marmite
Get in boys - think we deserved the rub of the green given Tigers should have been yellow carded

Don’t understand how Tigers can give 5+ penalties in the 22 and not get a warning because we score the tries, and 3 penalties for us is a yellow.

Without a warning too!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:06

That. Was. A. Fight.

An absolute dogfight. And we came through it!

TdG magnificent, Spencer ran the show. TdT put everything out there.

Fantastic win - those boys did incredible.

And now Exeter at home, not sure how I feel about that!?

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:08

Some big guns to come back to add to the grit those boys showed today

’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:08

Horrible game, will take the result

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Marjo20 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:11

Chiefs at the Rec. Some big guns in Roux, Dunn and I really hope Pepper to come back in! With Russell back at the helm I think we will edge this one.
Underhill and Ted Hill were both fantastic today also!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Benisjammin (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:15

TdG could have been man of the match if TdT handing out in an 11/10 performance. Top from both of them and enough from everyone else just. When can I buy a ticket for next week?! 😁

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:15

First, apart from not warning Tigers for so many offences in their 22, and missing the clear forward pass in the build up to Tigers try on HT, I thought Tempest had the best game I have seen from him for years.

Our defence was magnificent all day.
What a player the Tank is - any side would miss him.
Our lineout was better than Tiger's today.
Scrums a mess both ways as probably expected.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:18

Well played Bath, TDT what a player!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Benisjammin (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:20

Quote:
Stopsy
Well played Bath, TDT what a player!

Absolutely! We will miss him. Tigers were fierce today - massive respect for that effort!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Mini Maximus (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:20

Credit to Tigers, who made us really fight for that win.

I am so relieved we don't have to play them again next week. As I've said here a few times, I just don't like the psychology of that at all.

Somehow we need to find some form over the next two weeks. Right now we are relying on a handful of key players to get us through these games and we just aren't clicking as a team at all

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:21

Quote:
Dorset Boy
First, apart from not warning Tigers for so many offences in their 22, and missing the clear forward pass in the build up to Tigers try on HT, I thought Tempest had the best game I have seen from him for years .

Yeah - I think the officiating as a whole was good, but that lack of consistency around warnings and YCs is infuriating

’’Paint the whole world with a rainbow”

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:21

Quote:
Dorset Boy
First, apart from not warning Tigers for so many offences in their 22, and missing the clear forward pass in the build up to Tigers try on HT, I thought Tempest had the best game I have seen from him for years.
Our defence was magnificent all day.
What a player the Tank is - any side would miss him.
Our lineout was better than Tiger's today.
Scrums a mess both ways as probably expected.

Might have been Tempest’s best game but he was still awful and should not have been in charge of such a high profile game. Sara Cox should have been in charge instead.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Blues (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:23

Thank you TDT.

Irreplaceable.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:26

…and yet if you go on the Tigers board Tempest had a BB&W shirt on. Fans in one-eyed view of ref shocker. I think that Tigers will give Saints a tough match next Friday evening.

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Pulteneyfan (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:27

As usual the refereeing wasn't the decider. It almost never is in rugby and we shouldn't go down that dark alley.
Tigers were superb. Bath defence excellent and TDeG always in the right place putting out fires.
I think this Exeter side are very good, but with our returning players, I'm optimistic for next week - I'd be very surprised if they can deliver 3 weeks on the trot



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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Pulteneyfan (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:32

My big ask for next week...or more realistically next season, is how we get more out of that Bath back line? I dont remember a single line break today ...given the talent we've got, that just doesnt feel right.
On paper, I'd argue Spencer, Russell, Lawrence/Redpath, Ojomoh, Cockanasiga, Arundell, TDG ...that is as potent as any in the league ...but on the grass, we just dont seem to pose the attacking threat I'd hope for.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:35

Quote:
BathMatt53
…and yet if you go on the Tigers board Tempest had a BB&W shirt on. Fans in one-eyed view of ref shocker. I think that Tigers will give Saints a tough match next Friday evening.

It’s not a one eyed view BM, he missed blatant things for both teams so I guess it evened itself out, but he’s just not good enough at this level. The yellow card at the end was an absolute joke of a decision in terms of lack of consistency.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:40

It’s a good point PulteneyFan but today was a horrible day to play flowing champagne rugby. On that Twickenham pitch I’d fancy us to get purring.

Real grit shown from those guys today. We’ve got Dunn, Roux, Pepper, and Finn to come back but those 23 today did their job which makes JvGs job even harder.

Shout for Miles as well, picked from the base of several crumbling scrums and punched holes to enable us a clean exit.

TdG was everywhere today, catching that wet ball on the run shows why he should start next week.

Thought Santi was efficient as well.

All round fantastic effort against a dangerous Tigers side.

Who do we want more in the final? Do a year double against Tigers or revenge against Saints?

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Widcombe boy (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:44

Nerves shattered. A proper derby game from two old foes.
If we can get to the final I have a feeling if will be against Tigers .
Brutal game As others have said , TdG was superb as he has been all season. TDT Superted, and the back row were all superb

Widcombe Garçon



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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Rokobilly (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:45

Big shift from the whole squad. Tigers would have been delighted with the conditions and we fronted up very well. I was less impressed with Tempest than some here (although watching live from a fixed position makes it very hard to judge accurately).

I did think there was no way the Leicester jackaler who won the penalty that set up the final attack was supporting his weight.

It was a day to front up and get over the line. TDT and TDG both immense.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: theredseat (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:47

Let’s just enjoy every minute of TdT. An argument he’s the best to pull on the shirt most of us have ever seen. Whatever else happens from here let’s make the most of it

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Treble (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:49

Quote:
OutsideBath
Quote:
BathMatt53
…and yet if you go on the Tigers board Tempest had a BB&W shirt on. Fans in one-eyed view of ref shocker. I think that Tigers will give Saints a tough match next Friday evening.

It’s not a one eyed view BM, he missed blatant things for both teams so I guess it evened itself out, but he’s just not good enough at this level. The yellow card at the end was an absolute joke of a decision in terms of lack of consistency.

I thought Tempest was poor today. The conditions didn't help either side but we seemed to be reffed out of the scrum and the breakdown. The JoCo YC was laughable given Tigers behaviour in their 22 as we banged on the try line in the 1st half. Tigers v smart slowing our ball down and playing us w/out the ball around the fringes. Glad we got over the line but we need to be better out wide. Onwards we go

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:52

Quote:
theredseat
Let’s just enjoy every minute of TdT. An argument he’s the best to pull on the shirt most of us have ever seen. Whatever else happens from here let’s make the most of it

He is certainly a marvel of evolution. To be able to put in that amount of effort around the pitch and in the set piece when about 140kgs is superhuman.

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:57

Thought Tempest and his team were pretty good

I don't understand the "blatant forward pass" as it certainly wasn't blatant to me and Bath players didn't seem to be in arms about it

And can't deny we should have been in YC territory at the end. Only questions are around whether we were given a warning or not or even should we have seeded to have a warning?

Scrums were effed appropriately in my view and can't think of any other big decisions that were missed or wrong

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 17:58

Treble I disagree about the scrum comment - TdT dominated and the ones that went against were very obvious on tv.

Not sure he got everything right, but largely Tempo seemed about right.

Would have preferred Sara Cox though, she seems to have a much more natural rapport with the players and the game seems to flow more when she’s in charge

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Treble (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 18:03

Quote:
BathRob
Treble I disagree about the scrum comment - TdT dominated and the ones that went against were very obvious on tv.
Not sure he got everything right, but largely Tempo seemed about right.

Would have preferred Sara Cox though, she seems to have a much more natural rapport with the players and the game seems to flow more when she’s in charge

I was watching live at the Rec w/out the benefit of studio analysis but the Bath supporters around me were just as baffled and incensed about some of his decisions. It's all over now but I hope we don't have him again in the middle or the TMO truck for Chiefs and the final IF we get there...

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Dorset Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 18:06

Quote:
gaz59
Thought Tempest and his team were pretty good
I don't understand the "blatant forward pass" as it certainly wasn't blatant to me and Bath players didn't seem to be in arms about it

And can't deny we should have been in YC territory at the end. Only questions are around whether we were given a warning or not or even should we have seeded to have a warning?

Scrums were effed appropriately in my view and can't think of any other big decisions that were missed or wrong

Receiving player in front, hands were forward, it was blatant.
Anyway, the officials missed it.
We still hung on to win.

Oh, and TdT is a big play acting cheat according to one Tigers poster.



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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: tigerburnie (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 18:23

[quote Dorset Boy][quote gaz59]
Oh, and TdT is a big play acting cheat according to one Tigers poster.[/quote]

I thought that was in a props job description, at least it was when I played in the front row..............

Well played you lads, good luck next week.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Susanne (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 18:26

Quote:
BathRob
Treble I disagree about the scrum comment - TdT dominated and the ones that went against were very obvious on tv.
Not sure he got everything right, but largely Tempo seemed about right.

Would have preferred Sara Cox though, she seems to have a much more natural rapport with the players and the game seems to flow more when she’s in charge

A lot of that was Sara Cox today! You could hear all the officials on Reflink and she was giving Tempest a lot of useful insight. I don't know enough about the game to give a knowledgeable comment about a ref, but it is noticeable that Tempest tends to go quiet on his "say what you see" commentary when things are getting a bit messy or confused and he apparently doesn't really know what he saw!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 18:27

[quote tigerburnie][quote Dorset Boy][quote gaz59]
Oh, and TdT is a big play acting cheat according to one Tigers poster.[/quote]

I thought that was in a props job description, at least it was when I played in the front row..............

Well played you lads, good luck next week.[/quote]

Thanks TB, your lads were excellent in horrible conditions. Best of luck on Friday night and hopefully see you at HQ for the sequel.

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Wynners (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 18:39

View from the East stand - watching Leicester warm up yoi could see they were very up for it and their line speed was key to their game plan today. They were also very deliberately slowing down rucks and disrupting Spencer’s ball. A lot of the time that looked marginal at best but once Tempest had let them play that way they obviously kept it up. So often they were going off feet or were ahead of the back foot.

Effort was great and credit to the whole squad for seeing that one out - thought Leicester played well. Agree TDT and TDG standouts for us, but also thought Kepu, Ted, Sam, Josh all very good.

What’s strange about watching Bath recently is we seem to be consistently in control of games but not of the scoreboard. We should have been two scores ahead pretty much all through the game. But well done Bath to get the job done.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 19:33

Felt to me like there wasn’t much more than a ref decision here and there between the teams. Certainly never felt comfortable. You could barely tell which was the attacking back-line on our put-in, so flat were we lined up, so there was never the remotest intention of running it. Maybe we shaded the aerial battle, with Spencer’s phenomenal height and accuracy and Joe’s excellence. Boy could we do with an Itoje type lineout operator who just has the knack of nicking a crucial ball.

Despite the limitations of that performance, I feel like it will put the Bordeaux hangover to bed and get us back on track.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Mini Maximus (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 19:41

Glad we have Exeter in the play-offs and not a second Tigers game, but we didn't fire a a shot at them a few weeks back so we need to be orders of magnitude better next week to reach the final. Having Finn back feels hugely important, did anyone hear an update on his calf injury?

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 19:53

Thought Bailey managing to hit the post to give us the win (didn't really matter I know) was a clever bit of disguise, still a Bath lad at heart. winking smiley

Home draw is just critical isn't it.

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Tyler Offiah

Opinion is based on assumptions, whereas fact is based on observation or research.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 19:55

Quote:
Mini Maximus
Glad we have Exeter in the play-offs and not a second Tigers game, but we didn't fire a a shot at them a few weeks back so we need to be orders of magnitude better next week to reach the final. Having Finn back feels hugely important, did anyone hear an update on his calf injury?

He warmed up with the team - and someone on facebook noted he ran for the first time on Thursday/Friday with no reaction so plans to train this week coming as normal.

Says to me he’s back for next weekend

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: dcsh (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 20:06

Got my ticket for the Semi!! COYB!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: P G Tips (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 20:29

Quote:
Susanne
Quote:
BathRob
Treble I disagree about the scrum comment - TdT dominated and the ones that went against were very obvious on tv.
Not sure he got everything right, but largely Tempo seemed about right.

Would have preferred Sara Cox though, she seems to have a much more natural rapport with the players and the game seems to flow more when she’s in charge

A lot of that was Sara Cox today! You could hear all the officials on Reflink and she was giving Tempest a lot of useful insight. I don't know enough about the game to give a knowledgeable comment about a ref, but it is noticeable that Tempest tends to go quiet on his "say what you see" commentary when things are getting a bit messy or confused and he apparently doesn't really know what he saw!


Watching at the Rec, without benefit of Reflink it was notable that he blew late for a number of offences that happened right in front of him, suggesting that "a word in his ear" persuaded him to act. That adds to the feeling that he was missing some infringements that should have been obvious.

While I agree that referee error seldom changes the result of a game, I still question why, after 7? 9? penalties against Tigers on their line just prior to the head contact on TdT, there was neither warning nor card, yet 3 Bath offences in the last few minutes did bring a yellow.

We are told not to expect perfection from officials, but to ask for consistency - fair enough, I agree. So, let's have that consistency.

PG



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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Susanne (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 21:27

Big Joe's yellow card - you could hear Tempest telling Tiggers he was going to put us on a warning, but offered them the chance to go quickly. Naturally they chose that, so they knew we were on a warning but we didn't.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 21:56

It hasn’t affected the end result which is good but yes, all seems a bit odd - but then never mind because we won!

Fingers crossed for no injuries, was worried about Barbs after that knee shot but he seemed to run it off.

Wonder if JvG will be temped to start Sela next week given TdTs mammoth shift today

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 22:16

Quote:
BathRob
Wonder if JvG will be temped to start Sela next week given TdTs mammoth shift today

Do you seriously think he could keep TdT out of the semi final? I think Tom is on a mission to go out with a bang!

https://i.ibb.co/YTDNDCdd/Tyler-Offiah-185.jpg

Tyler Offiah

Opinion is based on assumptions, whereas fact is based on observation or research.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Treble (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 22:30

Quote:
shipwrecked
Quote:
BathRob
Wonder if JvG will be temped to start Sela next week given TdTs mammoth shift today

Do you seriously think he could keep TdT out of the semi final? I think Tom is on a mission to go out with a bang!

TdT is putting in big shifts now for the team but was used sparingly through the season, he starts every time if fit for me and we are a better side for it. He'll be gone soon and Sela will get plenty of minutes next season

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 23:12

Quote:
shipwrecked
Thought Bailey managing to hit the post to give us the win (didn't really matter I know) was a clever bit of disguise, still a Bath lad at heart. winking smiley

It reminded me of all the ones he missed whilst with us.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 06/06/2026 23:17

It could have gone either way as I had expected but I’m delighted we gained the home S/F We will have home advantage & vital players back but we need to improve significantly on today’s showing to beat this much Improved Exeter team.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: joethefanatic (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 05:45

Just watched the game in a hotel room at LAX. I still find it mindboggling that I can stream hd tv on a phone line! One for the purists except the purists would have recognized the quality that was on show in those conditions. That was a peach of an old fashioned arm wrestle and you wouldn't bet against it being the final. Nice to see OB2 playing so well even if it was in the wrong shirt and very small margins between the teams except for

My MotM (by a country mile) - TdT. We are going to miss him.

A word for the ref. Tempo is getting better and better.

I love Santi to bits but i really hope Finn is fit for the semi...

... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu



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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 06:54

Not a relaxing watch but I thought we were decent value for the win.

There will always be decisions by officials I disagree with but thought they had a good game. Agree with DB that jvp pass was clearly forward in build up to a try and would put that one on the tmo rather than tempo) . agree with comments about inconsistency on yellows. All in all that isn't much to moan about in 80 mins of rugby though so well done ro them.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 07:01

Tdt was immense and agree he has been v well managed so let's get what can from him for the next 1/2 games.

A word for kepu- looked the part I thought. 1 wonky lineout called? In terrible conditions against a top class defensive lineout operator I thought he was v good and his work around the park is never in question.

Ollie lawrence looks a bit shot to me. Getting hooked after that knock on won't be great for his confidence. Shane hennessey not fit but do think there is now a good argument for cam/ mojo pairing.

V glad beno took the advice of our friend A20 and learnt how to scrummage. Hopefully just cramp at the end of a massive effort.

Leic were v dogged and have a decent chance against saints - rarely going to be out of games with that front 5 and mental toughness. Ilione back playing aswell now.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 07:08

According to the Tigers board Ilione went off after 10 mins in the England u20s game with a shoulder injury.

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Charlieboa1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 07:42

Quote:
BathMatt53
According to the Tigers board Ilione went off after 10 mins in the England u20s game with a shoulder injury.

Ouch, that's a shame. Poor bloke can't catch a break. Fingers crossed it's nothing serious.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 08:49

Class Tigerburnie

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: tigerburnie (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 11:58

Quote:
Bath Supporter Jack
Class Tigerburnie

That's a first lol..............................

When I played we did our damndest to win/intimidate/occasionally stretch the laws of the games, but
we respected the man(or woman these days) with the whistle, without them the game is rubbish(I know I played in a game for our old vets team with no ref, it was a farce).
We looked for our opposite number in the bar afterwards and bought him a pint, I find some of the pontificating afterwards a tad embarrassing if I'm honest.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP! & Player Ratings
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Date: 07/06/2026 14:01


Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP! & Player Ratings
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 14:34

Quote:
Mike the Taxi
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/other-sport/bath-rugby-player-ratings-leicester-11002538

There’s no way, in my view, that Ollie Lawrence should have been given a 7

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 15:17

Surely those scores are AI? Max Olower than the rest of the backs? TDG only a 7? A TH porp dominates in the scrum and gets 3 tries and it’s not a 10?

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 15:21

Quote:
tigerburnie
I find some of the pontificating afterwards a tad embarrassing if I'm honest.

Agreed, it’s never a great idea to be posting directly after a match with one’s blood up and having consumed a skinful! I always used to leave it until the Monday to post after a match but I’m older and more chilled / sanguine these days…more important issues in the world than a game a rugby (much as I enjoy watching one).

[24/25 adoptee: Francois van Wyk]

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: The Bear (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 16:02

Quote:
BathMatt53
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tigerburnie
I find some of the pontificating afterwards a tad embarrassing if I'm honest.

Agreed, it’s never a great idea to be posting directly after a match with one’s blood up and having consumed a skinful! I always used to leave it until the Monday to post after a match but I’m older and more chilled / sanguine these days…more important issues in the world than a game a rugby (much as I enjoy watching one).

But Rugby Union wants incidents and refereeing to generate engagement.

It's why we spend more time watching replays of potential head collisions than of the actual trys scored. It's why Healey's commentary has pivoted from pointing out player errors to pointing out player infringements.

How many articles are written and forum posts generated based on the perceived performance of a referee?

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 16:20

Far too many, which is partly to blame for the shortage of referees at grass roots level.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP! & Player Ratings
Posted by: Toast and Marmite (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 18:41

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Bath Hammer
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Mike the Taxi
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/other-sport/bath-rugby-player-ratings-leicester-11002538

There’s no way, in my view, that Ollie Lawrence should have been given a 7

DG only got 7 - ludicrous

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 20:16

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Dorset Boy
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gaz59
Thought Tempest and his team were pretty good
I don't understand the "blatant forward pass" as it certainly wasn't blatant to me and Bath players didn't seem to be in arms about it

And can't deny we should have been in YC territory at the end. Only questions are around whether we were given a warning or not or even should we have seeded to have a warning?

Scrums were effed appropriately in my view and can't think of any other big decisions that were missed or wrong

Receiving player in front, hands were forward, it was blatant.
Anyway, the officials missed it.
We still hung on to win.

Fair do, will watch again

And yep, we were hanging on weren't we. I must admit I struggle to get this commentator narrative that no other side scores as often as we do from 22 entries. There were several in second half when just a 3 pointer would have given us valuable breathing space

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 20:36

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shipwrecked
Thought Bailey managing to hit the post to give us the win (didn't really matter I know) was a clever bit of disguise, still a Bath lad at heart. winking smiley

Was still in Bath Sunday lunchtime having lunch with TdG amongst others - nice to see.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 23:10

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gaz59
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Dorset Boy
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gaz59
Thought Tempest and his team were pretty good
I don't understand the "blatant forward pass" as it certainly wasn't blatant to me and Bath players didn't seem to be in arms about it

And can't deny we should have been in YC territory at the end. Only questions are around whether we were given a warning or not or even should we have seeded to have a warning?

Scrums were effed appropriately in my view a
nd can't think of any other big decisions that were missed or wrong

Receiving player in front, hands were forward, it was blatant.
Anyway, the officials missed it.
We still hung on to win.

Fair do, will watch again

And yep, we were hanging on weren't we. I must admit I struggle to get this commentator narrative that no other side scores as often as we do from 22 entries. There were several in second half when just a 3 pointer would have given us valuable breathing space

So, think you must mean the JvP pass and yep definitely was slightly but clearly forward from TV angle

But that wasn't the angle Tempest had, should have been picked up by TMO in my view. It's a reffing team these days

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 23:16

Gonna fess up on ere. I really had Carreras down as first choice 15 but on Saturday's evidence golly molly am I so happy TdG didn't go to Exeter

Don't get me wrong, I thought Santi had a very good game at 10 apart from one poor conversion attempt but TdG was brilliant

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Widcombe boy (IP Logged)
Date: 07/06/2026 23:35

Agrée Gaz he was incredible. In fairness I can’t remember him having a bad game.

Widcombe Garçon

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 00:25

Quote:
gaz59
Gonna fess up on ere. I really had Carreras down as first choice 15 but on Saturday's evidence golly molly am I so happy TdG didn't go to Exeter

+ 1

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 01:16

Santi just doesn’t seem willing to run it back unless it’s very broken field, whereas Tom will run it back and pick a ‘target’ area where forwards can get to him quickly to secure the breakdown even though that invariably means taking a bit of a clattering.

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathRob (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 07:16

Think TdG cemented himself as the starter for the Senis and Final - Harsh in Carreras who hasn’t done anything wrong per se, but he just makes everyone look a little more fluid.

Same opinion on Cam at 12. Sometimes you need those glue players

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Old Bath Tub (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 09:30

Quote:
shipwrecked
Thought Bailey managing to hit the post to give us the win (didn't really matter I know) was a clever bit of disguise, still a Bath lad at heart. winking smiley
Home draw is just critical isn't it.


After watching the replay on TV i had the view that he didn't want to celebrate his try ether!

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 11:09

Yes I noted that Old Bath Tub

He was always a good player....just in Bath at the wrong time

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: SJS (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 12:26

Quote:
Bath Supporter Jack
Yes I noted that Old Bath Tub
He was always a good player....just in Bath at the wrong time

I think it was a case of getting an injury at the wrong time, just as Donoghue started to find form.

Really pleased Bailey is thriving at Tigers though!

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 12:51

Bailey really did have a great game. That 50:22 kick in first half was class and his pen kick to 5m from our line in second half was excellent

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 12:57

A couple of big encouraging takeaways for us

Our power and teamwork to get TdT over the line 3 times against such a strong, dogged Leicester defence

The organisation and strength in our defensive maul equally impressive

But my other big note is seeing Ojomoh's tackling and all round defensive work. This was supposedly a stat that he is weak on compared to his rivals for the England 12 shirt but he was seriously impressive in that area

Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 13:02

Quote:
gaz59
Bailey really did have a great game. That 50:22 kick in first half was class and his pen kick to 5m from our line in second half was excellent

The one from Kepu was very nearly even better!

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 08/06/2026 13:38

Quote:
BathMatt53
Quote:
gaz59
Bailey really did have a great game. That 50:22 kick in first half was class and his pen kick to 5m from our line in second half was excellent

The one from Kepu was very nearly even better!

Beginning to become a signature move that from Kepu, break out then kick deep.

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Re: NOW OR NEVER: BATH V LEICESTER. TEAM UP!
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/06/2026 09:50

Quote:
BathMatt53
Quote:
gaz59
Bailey really did have a great game. That 50:22 kick in first half was class and his pen kick to 5m from our line in second half was excellent

The one from Kepu was very nearly even better!

It really was so close to being Prem kick of the season

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