Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
By Williams Racing
March 7 2022
| Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session |
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Formula One’s Official Pre-Season test gets underway between 10-11th March, as Bahrain International Circuit hosts a final three days of track time before the 2022 FIA Formula One World Championship gets underway the following week. Nicholas Latifi and Alex Albon will both return to the FW44 after a successful session in Barcelona, continuing to collect valuable data and further build upon their understanding of the new machinery. |
The Williams Racing driving schedule is due to be: |
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Dave Robson,
Head of Vehicle Performance: The main objective of the test this week is to
build on the learning from the track session in Barcelona and to start to
increase the performance of the car. We got a useful preview of the FW44 in
Barcelona and although the cars were only back in Grove for a few days
before being transported to Bahrain, we were able to do quite a lot of work
on them, which should help us to exploit the best performance this week. |
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Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Williams F1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/03/2022 10:19
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 07/03/2022 17:12
Quote:although the cars were only back in Grove for a few days before being transported to Bahrain, we were able to do quite a lot of work on them
Updates hopefouly
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2022 11:32
Not long to go now guys.
Loooking forward to our next big test which should show us if we are in the mix.
I think i perhaps spotted some areas on the other top 4 cars where they have maybe pinched extra millimetres of aero space and pushed the rules a little more than us.
So i should imagine our guys have spotted this and will try to do the same now..
Come on Williams.
Loooking forward to our next big test which should show us if we are in the mix.
I think i perhaps spotted some areas on the other top 4 cars where they have maybe pinched extra millimetres of aero space and pushed the rules a little more than us.
So i should imagine our guys have spotted this and will try to do the same now..
Come on Williams.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Me Amor (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2022 14:24
Have live streaming?
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2022 15:58
Quote:GPL
Not long to go now guys.
Loooking forward to our next big test which should show us if we are in the mix.
I think i perhaps spotted some areas on the other top 4 cars where they have maybe pinched extra millimetres of aero space and pushed the rules a little more than us.
So i should imagine our guys have spotted this and will try to do the same now..
Come on Williams.
Would love to see new things on the car but reading Capito's review of the first test, he says the time is too limited between 2 tests to go and explore other teams' ideas and see which one can help our own design philosophy so maybe we will have new bits but probably things that were under our own program since some times ago.
To bring ideas from other teams, specially when our car seems too different from other designs, it takes some time imo.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stu69 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2022 16:52
Quote:tomazyQuote:although the cars were only back in Grove for a few days before being transported to Bahrain, we were able to do quite a lot of work on them
Updates hopefouly
Check the oil, brake fluid, water and pumped the tyres up. Wash and valet! Job done! 😂
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2022 17:03
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: peterdebel (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2022 23:19
Quote:Me Amor
Have live streaming?
....Hmmm
Probably Skysports F1 channel....?
And...There are probably "Live Block" many sites, like ex.
[racingnews365.com]
Test: 10.00 - 19.00 Local time
means:
Thursday 10 March 07:00-16:00
Friday 11 March 07:00-16:00
Saturday 12 March 07:00-16:00
1. RACE Bahrain 18-20 March
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 09/03/2022 09:05
Are there any pics floating about today from the garages guys
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Me Amor (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 00:24
"suck my ball" is back! Welcome K-Mag
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 01:44
It'll be interesting to see how warmer conditions affect the bodywork. Might we see some oddly placed gills high up on the airbox or larger rear ducts or whatever.
I live in fantasy land and wish the team would just come out and effortlessly put in fast laps and become the biggest topic of the test.
Most likely they'll come out 7th or 8th fastest after the 3 days, with plenty of work to do.
We'll see.
I live in fantasy land and wish the team would just come out and effortlessly put in fast laps and become the biggest topic of the test.
Most likely they'll come out 7th or 8th fastest after the 3 days, with plenty of work to do.
We'll see.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 03:25
I know that the team had been updating the front wing in Barcelona so it will not surprise me that there will be more of the same in Bahrain.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 08:12
Discomfort for Albon
Alex Albon has been struggling with a heating problem in his Williams, resulting in a literal hot seat.
The British-Thai driver is back in the garage as the team look into the issue.
Alex Albon has been struggling with a heating problem in his Williams, resulting in a literal hot seat.
The British-Thai driver is back in the garage as the team look into the issue.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 08:31
Back on Track.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 08:32
Quote:GPL
Back on Track.
Better
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 08:55
Leaderboard
Leclerc, Ferrari, 1m35.953s, C4 - 18 laps
Perez, Red Bull, 1m36.581s, C2 prototype - 26
Vettel, Aston Martin, 1m36.637s, C2 - 17
Norris, McLaren, 1m37.580s, C4 - 8
Albon, Williams, 1m.37.794s, C2 prototype - 20
Ocon, Alpine, 1m37.852s, C2 prototype - 11
Zhou, Alfa Romeo, 1m38.675s, C3 - 25
Gasly, AlphaTauri, 1m40366.s, C4 - 19
Hamilton, Mercedes, 1m40.605s, C2 - 23
Leclerc, Ferrari, 1m35.953s, C4 - 18 laps
Perez, Red Bull, 1m36.581s, C2 prototype - 26
Vettel, Aston Martin, 1m36.637s, C2 - 17
Norris, McLaren, 1m37.580s, C4 - 8
Albon, Williams, 1m.37.794s, C2 prototype - 20
Ocon, Alpine, 1m37.852s, C2 prototype - 11
Zhou, Alfa Romeo, 1m38.675s, C3 - 25
Gasly, AlphaTauri, 1m40366.s, C4 - 19
Hamilton, Mercedes, 1m40.605s, C2 - 23
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Nuvolari (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 08:55
Williams: we can design a F1 car with very small sidepods!
Mercedes: hold my beer.
Mercedes: hold my beer.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 09:04
I see we have vent panels on our side pods today.
I think it was Tomazy who these panels could be used for this in hotter conditions.
I think it was Tomazy who these panels could be used for this in hotter conditions.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 09:34
Day one times
1. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m34.531s, C3, 33 laps
2. Perez (Red Bull) 1m36.247s, C2, 33 laps
3. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m36.365s, C3, 34 laps
4. Albon (Williams) 1m36.578s, C3, 29 laps
5. Vettel (Aston Martin), 1m36.637s, C2, 21 laps
6. Zhou (Alfa Romeo) 1m37.164s, C3, 33 laps
7. Ocon (Alpine) 1m37.198s, C2, 18 laps
8. Norris (McLaren) 1m37.580s, C4, 15 laps
9. Gasly (AlphaTauri) 1m39.266s, C2, 28 laps
1. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m34.531s, C3, 33 laps
2. Perez (Red Bull) 1m36.247s, C2, 33 laps
3. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m36.365s, C3, 34 laps
4. Albon (Williams) 1m36.578s, C3, 29 laps
5. Vettel (Aston Martin), 1m36.637s, C2, 21 laps
6. Zhou (Alfa Romeo) 1m37.164s, C3, 33 laps
7. Ocon (Alpine) 1m37.198s, C2, 18 laps
8. Norris (McLaren) 1m37.580s, C4, 15 laps
9. Gasly (AlphaTauri) 1m39.266s, C2, 28 laps
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:28
RedBull is furious - Mercedes has reportedly broken "the spirit of the rules" and some parts are illegal. They are ridiculous as always 
Good job Mercedes! 
Although, it's too radical for me and I don't like it.
Good job Mercedes! Although, it's too radical for me and I don't like it.Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Nuvolari (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:35
Formula1.com: Albon has just gone second on the C2 rubber, which is an impressive lap. Six tenths back from Leclerc, the Williams is looking pretty tidy at the moment.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Goxxy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:39
Motorsport unfortunately reports on C4 rubber
Quote:Up to second now leaps Alex Albon in the Williams, who is using the C4 soft rubber. It's a 1m35.217s for the Anglo-Thai driver.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Myvatn (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:39
From Motorsport.com, it says the lap was done on C4 (soft) tyres.
I also read that the car seems quite understeery, can someone confirm?
I also read that the car seems quite understeery, can someone confirm?
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Goxxy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:43
From Motorsport:
Quote:Albon improves again on the C4 rubber to a 1m35.070s with a fastest first sector time of anybody, but Leclerc remains on top as the only man so far to venture into the 1m34s. Vettel also improves to a 1m35.706s on the mediums but remains third.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:43
i would say a C4 if anything.
Not a chance C2.
Not a chance C2.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: WilliamsF1Fan (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:49
Autosport are reporting C4
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Myvatn (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:55
Good that the team is already seeking performance, Albon was on course to improve his S1 time before VSC was deployed.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 10:59
According to motorsport-magazin.com, Albon was on C4.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 11:07
C4 but it is nice to see us there
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 11:17
Yes a nice positive start to this 2nd test.
Regarding someone saying lots of understeer from the Williams today , i have read most
cars looking uncomfortable on track this morning maybe most cars carrying a lot of fuel onboardting getting the laps in.
Regarding someone saying lots of understeer from the Williams today , i have read most
cars looking uncomfortable on track this morning maybe most cars carrying a lot of fuel onboardting getting the laps in.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stuart L (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 12:16
I’m watching on sky. It was C4 red wall tyres that fastest laps were set on. Albon put C5’s on 10 minutes before lunch set a purple time in the first sector but then VSC was deployed so his qualifier run was disrupted.
Anthony Davidson says Williams car looks right and could be the Alpha Taurus surprise this year.
Martin Brundle on a track walk said initially the Williams looked stable and planted. Then at another corner he inferred front and rear suspension weren’t in harmony.
Brundle said all cars are stable under braking (bigger tyres), all are understeery, and all cars have to be very gentle on the throttle picking up speed as they feather the ground effects in.
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Anthony Davidson says Williams car looks right and could be the Alpha Taurus surprise this year.
Martin Brundle on a track walk said initially the Williams looked stable and planted. Then at another corner he inferred front and rear suspension weren’t in harmony.
Brundle said all cars are stable under braking (bigger tyres), all are understeery, and all cars have to be very gentle on the throttle picking up speed as they feather the ground effects in.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 12:40
As usual so many contradictory statements coming from the supposed F1 experts.
May have been a C4 soft tyre run from Albon but he did finish 0.6s ahead of Vettel in third who was on the medium C3, which is a respectable margin. But the gap to Leclerc still shows that as far as the timings are concerned there is a question hanging over the performance.
But gets back to the usual issue of how much can you compare times. In testing not much.
May have been a C4 soft tyre run from Albon but he did finish 0.6s ahead of Vettel in third who was on the medium C3, which is a respectable margin. But the gap to Leclerc still shows that as far as the timings are concerned there is a question hanging over the performance.
But gets back to the usual issue of how much can you compare times. In testing not much.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 12:40
Albon back on track
13:35 Alex Albon has also joined the on-track action, with Bottas heading out for a second run
13:35 Alex Albon has also joined the on-track action, with Bottas heading out for a second run
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 13:25
Albon on soft tyre run.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Myvatn (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 13:53
I think the team is running the classic program of quali runs in the morning + race sim in the afternoon. Any idea of how the first stints from Albon look like?
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 14:08
AMUS:
7 minutes ago
A quick look at the top speeds: Perez and Gasly are the fastest at 326 km/h, followed by Albon at 325 km/h and Leclerc at 322 km/h. So the Ferrari can also do straight lines and not just curves.
7 minutes ago
A quick look at the top speeds: Perez and Gasly are the fastest at 326 km/h, followed by Albon at 325 km/h and Leclerc at 322 km/h. So the Ferrari can also do straight lines and not just curves.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 14:43
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 14:48
104 laps
15:41 Lance Stroll leaps up to P6, posting a 1m35.859s - both Aston drivers in the top six as it stands. Meanwhile, Alex Albon reported a steering issue, but that seems to be more problematic on his on-board. Williams will have to check the hydraulics out.
15:41 Lance Stroll leaps up to P6, posting a 1m35.859s - both Aston drivers in the top six as it stands. Meanwhile, Alex Albon reported a steering issue, but that seems to be more problematic on his on-board. Williams will have to check the hydraulics out.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 14:49
of corse, I come home to wach testing, and Williams hits troble, probably that is it for the day...
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Myvatn (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 14:51
Still looks like a very solid day, more than 100 laps and a good combination of time attack + long runs. Any idea of pace in the latter?
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 14:53
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 15:25
session most probably over for us? as just 35mins left
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 15:44
i don't think they're coming out again. And if they are, it's probably to verify they solved the issue, so I doubt we'll see any hot laps.
Good day. As always, it's difficult to gauge where everybody is. But signs are promising for some midfield running.
Good day. As always, it's difficult to gauge where everybody is. But signs are promising for some midfield running.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 15:46
lots of talking about AT as well. now topping the sheet with some quick runs
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 15:52
AT made its runs at the end of the day, when the track was rubberd in and the temps were lower than when Williams did its runs. Hope for a trosilec (trouble) free day tomorrow and some new parts in the car.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022:03:10:16:39:59 by tomazy.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 15:54
As little can be concluded from the days times still feel that overall it was an encouraging day for Williams.
Quickest time was 1m:33.902 with Albon 1.16s behind. From what I understand the quickest time was set on the C5 while Albon was on the C4. But not sure as to fuel and all those other factors like Albon set his time early in the day while the quickest time was set in what were more favourable conditions later in the day.
Bring on Day 2 and let's see what Latifi can do.
Quickest time was 1m:33.902 with Albon 1.16s behind. From what I understand the quickest time was set on the C5 while Albon was on the C4. But not sure as to fuel and all those other factors like Albon set his time early in the day while the quickest time was set in what were more favourable conditions later in the day.
Bring on Day 2 and let's see what Latifi can do.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 16:17
yes nice positive day
Alpha showed they are competitive once again.
I think we are doing ok slowly improving this new car at our own pace maybe.
still have a niggle we lack a little raw pace but seems ok otherwise.
No idea were we stand pecking order 7th ish going on time sheets.
Best part of the day is midday to mid afternoon fast times i think.
It would be a shame if this nicely designed car of ours lacked that little bit of that raw pace.
Only the team knows that.
Alpha showed they are competitive once again.
I think we are doing ok slowly improving this new car at our own pace maybe.
still have a niggle we lack a little raw pace but seems ok otherwise.
No idea were we stand pecking order 7th ish going on time sheets.
Best part of the day is midday to mid afternoon fast times i think.
It would be a shame if this nicely designed car of ours lacked that little bit of that raw pace.
Only the team knows that.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: MViper (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 16:31
Quote:tomazy
AT made its runs at the end of the day, when the track was rubberd in and the temps were lower than when Williams did its runs. Hope for a trosilec free day tomorrow and some new parts in the car.
FW44 je samo se za po njiv? :-))
I've found interesting that the mighty Merc "copied" Williams sidepod concept.
Williams Racing
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 16:38
A couple of quotes from other sites.
The Williams looks good - its on rails
104 laps and pretty quick on hard tires. I'm liking what I'm seeing here
The Williams looks good - its on rails
104 laps and pretty quick on hard tires. I'm liking what I'm seeing here
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 16:39
Quote:MViperQuote:tomazy
AT made its runs at the end of the day, when the track was rubberd in and the temps were lower than when Williams did its runs. Hope for a trosilec free day tomorrow and some new parts in the car.
FW44 je samo se za po njiv? :-))
I've found interesting that the mighty Merc "copied" Williams sidepod concept.
haha, @#$%& autocorrect, upam da ne bomo rabili trosilca in da FW44 ni gnoj haha
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 16:41
I saw the coverage for a bit. Most comments about the Williams were encouraging. Stable through corners and driveable to those watching trackside. Good comments on Albon too. Promising signs continue.
The Merc sidepods look inspired by some ancient aliens sh*t or something. Not graceful or elegant but certainly purposeful and extreme. Hard to copy as well, as most teams have all their radiators and cooling inside of the sidepods. But man, they're ugly AF.
That Ferrari looks comfortably fast, too. That'd be great for the sport, after such a long period of RBR and Mercedes dominance.
The Merc sidepods look inspired by some ancient aliens sh*t or something. Not graceful or elegant but certainly purposeful and extreme. Hard to copy as well, as most teams have all their radiators and cooling inside of the sidepods. But man, they're ugly AF.
That Ferrari looks comfortably fast, too. That'd be great for the sport, after such a long period of RBR and Mercedes dominance.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 17:04
Good to know.
So if the 44 is stable through the corners and driveable plus we had the third fastest speed traps up till lunch time anyway,then logically we should i hope be quite quick.
So if the 44 is stable through the corners and driveable plus we had the third fastest speed traps up till lunch time anyway,then logically we should i hope be quite quick.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 17:26
BAHRAIN TESTING DAY ONE - SPEED TRAP
Team Driver Engine Speed (KM/H)
Red Bull Perez Honda 326.2
AlphaTauri Gasly Honda 326.0
Williams Albon Mercedes 325.4
Ferrari Leclerc Ferrari 322.9
Alfa Romeo Zhou Ferrari 322.5
McLaren Norris Mercedes 322.3
Alpine Alonso Renault 322.1
Haas Fittipaldi Ferrari 319.2
Aston Martin Vettel Mercedes 318.3
Alfa Romeo Bottas Ferrari 317.1
Mercedes Hamilton Mercedes 317.0
Ferrari Sainz Ferrari 316.8
Alpine Ocon Renault 316.5
Aston Martin Stroll Mercedes 316.4
Mercedes Russell Mercedes 311.8
Team Driver Engine Speed (KM/H)
Red Bull Perez Honda 326.2
AlphaTauri Gasly Honda 326.0
Williams Albon Mercedes 325.4
Ferrari Leclerc Ferrari 322.9
Alfa Romeo Zhou Ferrari 322.5
McLaren Norris Mercedes 322.3
Alpine Alonso Renault 322.1
Haas Fittipaldi Ferrari 319.2
Aston Martin Vettel Mercedes 318.3
Alfa Romeo Bottas Ferrari 317.1
Mercedes Hamilton Mercedes 317.0
Ferrari Sainz Ferrari 316.8
Alpine Ocon Renault 316.5
Aston Martin Stroll Mercedes 316.4
Mercedes Russell Mercedes 311.8
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 18:00
Some pictures from today. Other than the gills I dont see much upgrades, maybe a baseline today and updates tomorrow. Also, we were running with closed sidepod hole most of the day.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: peterdebel (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 18:00
Quote:GPL
BAHRAIN TESTING DAY ONE - SPEED TRAP
Team Driver Engine Speed (KM/H)
Red Bull Perez Honda 326.2
AlphaTauri Gasly Honda 326.0
Williams Albon Mercedes 325.4
Ferrari Leclerc Ferrari 322.9
Alfa Romeo Zhou Ferrari 322.5
McLaren Norris Mercedes 322.3
Alpine Alonso Renault 322.1
Haas Fittipaldi Ferrari 319.2
Aston Martin Vettel Mercedes 318.3
Alfa Romeo Bottas Ferrari 317.1
Mercedes Hamilton Mercedes 317.0
Ferrari Sainz Ferrari 316.8
Alpine Ocon Renault 316.5
Aston Martin Stroll Mercedes 316.4
Mercedes Russell Mercedes 311.8
Hmm...No Williams cars..?
Should we be so worried, that Its hard to sleep tonight, or....?
I, myself was hoping for a reliable and not least FAST car and thought the aim was to push her to the maximum limit ?
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 18:06
Albons laptimes
2:03.573
2:07.505
2:03.633
1:37.794
2:05.332
1:38.951
2:11.449
1:42.363
2:06.114
1:40.145
1:42.291
1:41.217
1:43.738
1:41.218
2:02.471
1:36.578
2:04.582
2:01.949
1:40.737
2:05.936
1:40.094
1:40.925
1:40.993
1:41.085
2:04.846
1:36.616
2:13.979
2:05.814
1:37.002
2:05.448
1:39.564
1:40.051
1:41.392
1:40.587
1:58.364
1:35.217
2:04.561
1:35.070
2:02.915
2:03.326
2:19.344
1:41.133
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Greenmachine (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 18:06
Remember when side pods looked like this?
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 19:14
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 20:39
To my untrained eyes, we had less proposing issue compared to alot of teams.I know the fuel load can be a factor there but considering Alex was on high fuel load run and not using DRS, It was the worst case scenario I think.
Ferrari and specially AlphaTauri were horrible.Mercedes was the same through the morning session but improved as the time went by.
I think we were on par with RBR, somewhat more like Mclaren.
I don't know if they can go more aggressive with the ride height and gain some performance or maybe it's our design that prevents that much of proposing.
The car looked stable, we had less lockups compared to alot of teams but clearly we were more understeery than some midfield teams.
Ferrari and specially AlphaTauri were horrible.Mercedes was the same through the morning session but improved as the time went by.
I think we were on par with RBR, somewhat more like Mclaren.
I don't know if they can go more aggressive with the ride height and gain some performance or maybe it's our design that prevents that much of proposing.
The car looked stable, we had less lockups compared to alot of teams but clearly we were more understeery than some midfield teams.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Qv Corse (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2022 20:45
Great video of the floor Tomazy . 👌
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: peterdebel (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 05:29
Good Luck Today, Guy's.
Hope you make progress. Run everything right after schedule. And tick all the boxes.
Fingers Crossed!
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Hope you make progress. Run everything right after schedule. And tick all the boxes.
Fingers Crossed!
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 07:37
Cars already running Latifi still to go out but he is preparing [twitter.com]
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Me Amor (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 07:41
Until when should we have Latifi??? How much money he bring to us?
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 07:44
he is out it looks like he had a moment but today it is very gusty and lots of driver seems to be struggling.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 07:54
Albon made a comment about the wind after his running yesterday. Hope this is just a general thing and not Williams specific.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stuart L (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:09
They are changing the floor of Lattifi’s car, he went over the kerbs / ran wide earlier on.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:19
Hmm Lattifi.
I know it is windy today but pay peanuts??
I know it is windy today but pay peanuts??
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:23
Quote:Stuart L
They are changing the floor of Lattifi’s car, he went over the kerbs / ran wide earlier on.
Williams is the only team yet to set an outright lap time, with the mechanics carrying out a floor change in front of the TV cameras. Doubt the technical bosses will be happy with it on show but it is great for the rest of us.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:30
Was hoping we would have some new bits on the car today.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:30
I would 1000x rather have Laffite in Williams team than Latifi 
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:41
Alpine doing ok this morning.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:43
9 laps so far is currently using the c2 prototype tyre
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:44
Of corse my luck, I take a day off work to wach the testing today, and FW44 catches fire, so no testing for Williams for hours if not the end of the day today...
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:48
live-timing here:
[www.motorsport-total.com]
[www.motorsport-total.com]
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:51
video :
[twitter.com]
[twitter.com]
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:54
Quote:tomazy
Of corse my luck, I take a day off work to wach the testing today, and FW44 catches fire, so no testing for Williams for hours if not the end of the day today...
go back to work
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:55
AMUS:
Vettel had to interrupt his long run on the C3 tires because of the red flag.
Outlap - 1:39.8 - 1:44.1 - 1:40.7 - 1:41.2 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.7 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.5 - 1:42.4 - Inlap.
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Vettel had to interrupt his long run on the C3 tires because of the red flag.
Outlap - 1:39.8 - 1:44.1 - 1:40.7 - 1:41.2 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.7 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.5 - 1:42.4 - Inlap.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:57
09:44 Latifi and a marshal rush onto the scene with fire extinguishers - but it seems the flames burst a tyre. The Canadian takes a look at the rear end to see if everything's been put out properly.
09:43 There's a red flag, Latifi's rear brakes are VERY on fire at the moment.
09:43 There's a red flag, Latifi's rear brakes are VERY on fire at the moment.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 08:59
9:46
Fireman Latifi
Latifi gets out, but it's really burning now. Better get a fire extinguisher before it spreads to something more important than braking... a marshal comes along, wants to put it out and has to flee briefly when the overheated equipment literally explodes! Latifi found a better fire extinguisher, comes back and now puts it out himself.
09:52
Departure replays
The spin shows that the heat at the rear was so enormous that the suspension broke on both sides. That's why the car turned. And then the brake drum probably exploded when it was being extinguished. Lucky it didn't hit the marshal.
Terrible bad luck for Williams, again!
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Fireman Latifi
Latifi gets out, but it's really burning now. Better get a fire extinguisher before it spreads to something more important than braking... a marshal comes along, wants to put it out and has to flee briefly when the overheated equipment literally explodes! Latifi found a better fire extinguisher, comes back and now puts it out himself.
09:52
Departure replays
The spin shows that the heat at the rear was so enormous that the suspension broke on both sides. That's why the car turned. And then the brake drum probably exploded when it was being extinguished. Lucky it didn't hit the marshal.
Terrible bad luck for Williams, again!
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:03
Well this sucks.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:05
Albon rues 'compromised' session after Latifi fire
A man with a grandstand view of Latifi's mishap was his Williams teammate Alex Albon, who happened to be in the Sky F1 commentary booth at the time.
"Nicky will now have a compromised day, and that will eat into my time tomorrow," rued Albon, who is scheduled to hop into the FW44 for Saturday's session.
Sky F1's technical expert Sam Collins says Latifi's spin and fire was as a result of a brake failure, adding that he doesn't expect to see the car back on track today.
A man with a grandstand view of Latifi's mishap was his Williams teammate Alex Albon, who happened to be in the Sky F1 commentary booth at the time.
"Nicky will now have a compromised day, and that will eat into my time tomorrow," rued Albon, who is scheduled to hop into the FW44 for Saturday's session.
Sky F1's technical expert Sam Collins says Latifi's spin and fire was as a result of a brake failure, adding that he doesn't expect to see the car back on track today.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:15
Fridays are weekends here.
Was set to charge my f1 tv and start watching fully with all the times.
Now it looks like I better sleep most of the day.Not sure they will be back today.
Was set to charge my f1 tv and start watching fully with all the times.
Now it looks like I better sleep most of the day.Not sure they will be back today.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:19
should be back before the end of the day.
i say about 2 ish
i say about 2 ish
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Me Amor (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:21
Better fire now than next week. The positive is we re realy do testing.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:30
Following a fire on Nicholas’ car, the team will assess the damage and look to understand the cause of the issue prior to any further running.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:42
I guess spare parts will come into play and we know he was already on his second floor this morning.
So who knows.
Anyway what it is is what it is nothing we can do but get stuck in and carry on.
No use moaning about it.
TESTING.
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So who knows.
Anyway what it is is what it is nothing we can do but get stuck in and carry on
.
No use moaning about it.
TESTING.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:51
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 09:52
Someone has done a race simulation graph and it puts us 9th 2 seconds off the pace
What do we think about that?.
What do we think about that?.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 10:07
nonsense, this is probably a graph from last year GPL!! 
We have much better car this year.
I believe, we are fighting in middfield
We have much better car this year.
I believe, we are fighting in middfield
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 10:41
From initial investigations, it appears that the issue that caused the fire was quite minor, but became visibly quite dramatic.
It is not as severe as the video footage might suggest, but there is fire damage to the rear of the car that the team need to repair.
We’ll revise our running plan once we have assessed the repair work that needs to be carried out.
It is not as severe as the video footage might suggest, but there is fire damage to the rear of the car that the team need to repair.
We’ll revise our running plan once we have assessed the repair work that needs to be carried out.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mr Brooksy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 11:21
Geez I wish us Aussies got the testing feed! It sucks having to read about it the next morning as it is, let alone not being able to watch the morning session cause our country has 'unique' contracts that preclude testing broadcasts!
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 11:26
Could not agree more Brooksy. I will be so happy when the contracts come to an end and I can use F1 TV.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stuart L (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 11:51
A lot of people I know use hesgoal.com to watch F1 and testing.
I couldn’t possibly advocate using illegal links but just saying I know some people do.
I couldn’t possibly advocate using illegal links but just saying I know some people do.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 11:57
Any update on how the repairs are going guys.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mr Brooksy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 12:44
Quote:Last I read, Fox just signed a new 5 year contract extension this year... So don't hold your breath mate. *Shakes head*Andrew Hooper
Could not agree more Brooksy. I will be so happy when the contracts come to an end and I can use F1 TV.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 13:14
I hoped the new team will be more vocal on media and social media to get connected with their fans.
Less than 3 hrs remaining and they say nothing.
Not if we will be back on track today or the test is ended for today.
Should be easier to make a connection as did Alfa or Alpine in last test.
Less than 3 hrs remaining and they say nothing.
Not if we will be back on track today or the test is ended for today.
Should be easier to make a connection as did Alfa or Alpine in last test.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Myvatn (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 13:22
They just tweeted that they will not resume running today.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GoWilliams! (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 13:23
They said 10 minutes ago on there twitter they wont be back out today.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 14:51
That is the first big mistake the team has made so far.
A third of your limited testing down the drain.
O well see what tomorrow brings.
Lets hope they make the call and give Albon the biggest share of the work tomorrow if possible as
i feel he is the cleverer of the 2 in helping develop the new car.
A third of your limited testing down the drain.
O well see what tomorrow brings.
Lets hope they make the call and give Albon the biggest share of the work tomorrow if possible as
i feel he is the cleverer of the 2 in helping develop the new car.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 16:50
lots of missed track time, but hopefully tomorrow the team can make up for it and learn from today's event
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 18:48
Quote:GPL
That is the first big mistake the team has made so far.
A third of your limited testing down the drain.
O well see what tomorrow brings.
Lets hope they make the call and give Albon the biggest share of the work tomorrow if possible as
i feel he is the cleverer of the 2 in helping develop the new car.
Infact Alex had a full day running yesterday.Missed not that much, maybe a few push laps.
They will give Nicky more track time if anything is going to change.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 21:08
Tomorrow will be a nice day for Williams. They will repair the car and put on all the go faster stuff. Then in the morning session Latifi will do 1h and 30 min setup running, than 30 min of quali simulations and then 1h 30 min race sim. His fastest lap will be low 1:32. All in all, he will do 101 laps.
In the PM seson, Albon will do the same, only diffirence would be less setup and more quali, his best time will be mid 1:31. then 10 mins before the end of the session he will do a run when he stops on the track becouse of lack of fuel. All in all, he will do 97 laps.
In the PM seson, Albon will do the same, only diffirence would be less setup and more quali, his best time will be mid 1:31. then 10 mins before the end of the session he will do a run when he stops on the track becouse of lack of fuel. All in all, he will do 97 laps.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mr Brooksy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2022 22:23
Quote:tomazy
Tomorrow will be a nice day for Williams. They will repair the car and put on all the go faster stuff. Then in the morning session Latifi will do 1h and 30 min setup running, than 30 min of quali simulations and then 1h 30 min race sim. His fastest lap will be low 1:32. All in all, he will do 101 laps.
In the PM seson, Albon will do the same, only diffirence would be less setup and more quali, his best time will be mid 1:31. then 10 mins before the end of the session he will do a run when he stops on the track becouse of lack of fuel. All in all, he will do 97 laps.
With an average race Sim of a low 1.38min on hard tyres...
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: redline (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 02:38
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: redline (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 03:03
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stuart L (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 08:15
I was sort of half listening to Alex Albon just now live on sky sports F1, it all sounds v good for Williams. Simple as that. He’s emphasising take opportunities early in the season…sounds like we are well set up.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 09:09
Quote:Stuart L
I was sort of half listening to Alex Albon just now live on sky sports F1, it all sounds v good for Williams. Simple as that. He’s emphasising take opportunities early in the season…sounds like we are well set up.
Hi Stu
Not really sure i am quite convinced JUST yet.
Reading between the lines when he says there is a good car in there but they have not been
able to find the key yet to uinlock the pace so to speak.
We have not seen any REAL turn of speed yet from the 44 and long run pace is very average again so far.
If the the Haas can do a 1:33 :2 we need a low 1:32 to convice me.
Show me the money.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 09:57
I must confess, looking at the times Latifi is doing curently, I am concerned of FW44 speed at the moment.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 09:58
AMUS, 45 minutes ago:
There are reports that Williams will also be allowed to test longer today after the team stopped a fire yesterday. One wonders why. In such a case, McLaren could also complain because they struggled with brake problems throughout the week. Or Alpine, who lost half a day in Barcelona because of a fire.
There are reports that Williams will also be allowed to test longer today after the team stopped a fire yesterday. One wonders why. In such a case, McLaren could also complain because they struggled with brake problems throughout the week. Or Alpine, who lost half a day in Barcelona because of a fire.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 10:11
Quote:Polemik
AMUS, 45 minutes ago:
There are reports that Williams will also be allowed to test longer today after the team stopped a fire yesterday. One wonders why. In such a case, McLaren could also complain because they struggled with brake problems throughout the week. Or Alpine, who lost half a day in Barcelona because of a fire.
Interesting.
I wonder if Williams have complained about how long it took for the Fire marshalls to arrive on the scene???
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 10:49
I don't know. But we'll see if Williams gets that extra time and if yes, if he uses it.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 10:54
someone just posted this.
The Williams doesn't look that good anymore to me. Quite slow on the race simulation and clearly struggling with the rear end.
And another post.
Latifi lapping some 8 tenths slower than Hamilton at the beginning of their second stints of their race sims.
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The Williams doesn't look that good anymore to me. Quite slow on the race simulation and clearly struggling with the rear end.
And another post.
Latifi lapping some 8 tenths slower than Hamilton at the beginning of their second stints of their race sims.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022:03:12:10:59:10 by GPL.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 10:54
AMUS, 9 minutes ago:
Latifi misbrakes in turn 10 and has to go off the track. The Williams rolls on the hardest C1 compound. Apparently it doesn't provide much grip.
Latifi misbrakes in turn 10 and has to go off the track. The Williams rolls on the hardest C1 compound. Apparently it doesn't provide much grip.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 10:58
AMUS, 33 minutes ago:
Gasly gets fresh tires. Here is his stint on the C1 tyre:
Outlap - 1:42.1 - 1:40.6 - 1:41.7 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.5 - 1:42.1 - 1:42.2 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.6 - 1:42.1 - 1:41.0 - 1:41.0 - 1:41.8 - 1:41.4 - 1:41.4 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.4 - 1:41.4. 1:42.2 - 1:42.4 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - Inlap
AMUS, 36 minutes ago:
Hamilton completes his race simulation before meeting Gasly. The final stint on the C1 tires:
Outlap - 1:39.4 - 1:39.5 - 1:39.7 - 1:39.1 - 1:40.2 - 1:39.9 - 1:39.6 - 1:39.5 - 1:39.6 - 1:40.1 - 1:39.9 - 1:40.1 - 1:39.8 - Inlap
Gasly gets fresh tires. Here is his stint on the C1 tyre:
Outlap - 1:42.1 - 1:40.6 - 1:41.7 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.5 - 1:42.1 - 1:42.2 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.6 - 1:42.1 - 1:41.0 - 1:41.0 - 1:41.8 - 1:41.4 - 1:41.4 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.4 - 1:41.4. 1:42.2 - 1:42.4 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - Inlap
AMUS, 36 minutes ago:
Hamilton completes his race simulation before meeting Gasly. The final stint on the C1 tires:
Outlap - 1:39.4 - 1:39.5 - 1:39.7 - 1:39.1 - 1:40.2 - 1:39.9 - 1:39.6 - 1:39.5 - 1:39.6 - 1:40.1 - 1:39.9 - 1:40.1 - 1:39.8 - Inlap
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 11:22
Don't get me wrong i have faith in the new leadership team and engineers back at Grove but what
i see at present is that they are not quite figured out this new car design and maybe tires, but i think and hope they will get to grips with it at some point druring the first half of the season.
I could be totally mistaken and they are running full tanks maybe.
This afternoon should give us a better idea when we see a few semi qualie runs i hope.
i see at present is that they are not quite figured out this new car design and maybe tires, but i think and hope they will get to grips with it at some point druring the first half of the season.
I could be totally mistaken and they are running full tanks maybe.
This afternoon should give us a better idea when we see a few semi qualie runs i hope.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Polemik (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 12:03
AMUS, 15 minutes ago:
Hamilton on the comparison with the Bahrain tests in 2021, when things didn't go well for Mercedes either: "It feels very different now than last year. I think we're not that well positioned. The challenges are much greater now. It can't be solved in a week. I'm told we still have a lot of lap time to find."
AMUS, 21 minutes ago:
Hamilton on the status of development at Mercedes: "We still have a few problems to work through. We're definitely not the fastest car at the moment. Ferrari looks the best. Red Bull is probably behind them, then we or McLaren. But we're definitely not ahead. "
Norris on McLaren's brake problems: "Of course it wasn't ideal here. Our mileage is very limited. Above all, we had to do without the long runs with a lot of fuel. So we're not particularly confident about the first race."
So, several teams have serious problems - Mercedes and Alpine have big problems with bouncing (porpoising), McLaren with brakes, Haas with fuel/oil system, etc.
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Hamilton on the comparison with the Bahrain tests in 2021, when things didn't go well for Mercedes either: "It feels very different now than last year. I think we're not that well positioned. The challenges are much greater now. It can't be solved in a week. I'm told we still have a lot of lap time to find."
AMUS, 21 minutes ago:
Hamilton on the status of development at Mercedes: "We still have a few problems to work through. We're definitely not the fastest car at the moment. Ferrari looks the best. Red Bull is probably behind them, then we or McLaren. But we're definitely not ahead. "
Norris on McLaren's brake problems: "Of course it wasn't ideal here. Our mileage is very limited. Above all, we had to do without the long runs with a lot of fuel. So we're not particularly confident about the first race."
So, several teams have serious problems - Mercedes and Alpine have big problems with bouncing (porpoising), McLaren with brakes, Haas with fuel/oil system, etc.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 12:21
Are we running yet this afternoon. Good number of laps this morning
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 12:22
Albon just gone out.
Time to see how we stack up.
Time to see how we stack up.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 12:25
13:22
Albon is also out on track and TV replays catch something fly off the rear-right section of his Williams. He only completes an installation lap and pits again.
Albon is also out on track and TV replays catch something fly off the rear-right section of his Williams. He only completes an installation lap and pits again.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mr Brooksy (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 12:28
Quote:GPL
someone just posted this.
The Williams doesn't look that good anymore to me. Quite slow on the race simulation and clearly struggling with the rear end.
And another post.
Latifi lapping some 8 tenths slower than Hamilton at the beginning of their second stints of their race sims.
Geez, that sounds pretty bad... Just as I go to bed. Great. Maybe the damage to the rear yesterday is causing issues today...
Hopefully we see Alex pump in some qualifying runs to help us get a feel for where we might be in the pecking order!
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 12:30
Hope they can.Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
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Date: 12/03/2022 12:33
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 13:28
What do you make of this then????
Red Bull Team Principal Christian Horner says it's impossible to predict which team will be on top at next week's season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix.
With teams running different tyre compounds, fuel loads and engine modes as they go through a range of programmes, pre-season testing is a notoriously inconsistent barometer of outright competitiveness.
However, Horner did namecheck a few teams that had caught his eye on track in Sakhir.
"I think the one consistent thing you see is every time the Ferrari is on track, it looks competitive," Horner told F1 TV.
"The McLaren, when it's running, [also] looks competitive. Mercedes, I think, haven't shown their hand yet, and the car looks a bit of a handful to drive.
"But then there's surprises, like the Williams pace on the long run looks quite competitive, so
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Red Bull Team Principal Christian Horner says it's impossible to predict which team will be on top at next week's season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix.
With teams running different tyre compounds, fuel loads and engine modes as they go through a range of programmes, pre-season testing is a notoriously inconsistent barometer of outright competitiveness.
However, Horner did namecheck a few teams that had caught his eye on track in Sakhir.
"I think the one consistent thing you see is every time the Ferrari is on track, it looks competitive," Horner told F1 TV.
"The McLaren, when it's running, [also] looks competitive. Mercedes, I think, haven't shown their hand yet, and the car looks a bit of a handful to drive.
"But then there's surprises, like the Williams pace on the long run looks quite competitive, so
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GoWilliams! (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 14:00
Latifi back in the car now.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 14:19
From another forum
So, for me the current idea of the standings is as follows:
1 Ferrari
2 Red Bull
3 Alpha Tauri/Mercedes
5 McLaren/Alpine/Williams
8 Aston Martin
9 Haas/Alfa Romeo
All based upon gut feeling and the current runs done over the past days.
So, for me the current idea of the standings is as follows:
1 Ferrari
2 Red Bull
3 Alpha Tauri/Mercedes
5 McLaren/Alpine/Williams
8 Aston Martin
9 Haas/Alfa Romeo
All based upon gut feeling and the current runs done over the past days.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: williams4284 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 14:46
Mercedes 3rd / 4th - that's a big call
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:15
Nice amount of laps today for the last hour
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:26
I think Williams are struggling today, despite the amount of laps. Having some trouble at hairpin and car doesn't look too stable... After watching 2-3 hours of the live feed and seeing the Alfa, Alpha and Haas I fear we're not that far up the order. They've stepped it up today. The commentary crew are speculating it may be the slowest car out there.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:35
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“Latifi will get the afternoon and in between just after lunch,” said Capito. “Alex will get like a qualifying session, because he hasn’t done that, so then they’ll end up about the same number of laps.”
Capito fears that the loss of tyre testing time due to the fire could affect the team’s performance during the early phase of the season.
“Because we didn’t do the tyre test at the end of last year, that hurts us quite a lot,” Capito explained. “I think it will have an impact on the performance of the first races, having lost one sixth of the testing.
“It’s quite a lot to do and today we’ll try to get lots of data. There’s five different tyre compounds you have to go through and get all the data for that. And that’s quite tricky as we didn’t have any information about the tyres and the wheels before. I am sure it’s quite a disadvantage and I think it comes out that it has been a disadvantage.”
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This is very concerning... Albon's quali run doesn't seem strong at all... And having lost that day of tyre testing seems quite impactful now.
“Latifi will get the afternoon and in between just after lunch,” said Capito. “Alex will get like a qualifying session, because he hasn’t done that, so then they’ll end up about the same number of laps.”
Capito fears that the loss of tyre testing time due to the fire could affect the team’s performance during the early phase of the season.
“Because we didn’t do the tyre test at the end of last year, that hurts us quite a lot,” Capito explained. “I think it will have an impact on the performance of the first races, having lost one sixth of the testing.
“It’s quite a lot to do and today we’ll try to get lots of data. There’s five different tyre compounds you have to go through and get all the data for that. And that’s quite tricky as we didn’t have any information about the tyres and the wheels before. I am sure it’s quite a disadvantage and I think it comes out that it has been a disadvantage.”
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This is very concerning... Albon's quali run doesn't seem strong at all... And having lost that day of tyre testing seems quite impactful now.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:42
No quick runs? From our end?
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:50
Latifi is just going in and out of the pit lane. Maybe practicing starts. who knows at this point.
A worrying end to testing!
A worrying end to testing!
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Ozzy Osbone (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:51
Hmm. Not the perfect start. Let's see.
I think VER will own this year unless merc can find something and soon.
I think VER will own this year unless merc can find something and soon.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:55
Strange way to end these tests
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:57
Yes... that RBR looks incredibly fast. On rails.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Ozzy Osbone (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 15:58
Brundle puts us slowest with Haas. Meh.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Ozzy Osbone (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 16:01
Getting hard to follow this team these days. We can't just keep changing all the staff and coming out with a dud car. I hope that things are different in a week. Meh.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 16:06
I'm intrigued why all of the sudden we're seconds behind the next-fastest car. Car was locking up everywhere so there might be some problems. I mean, it's very weird seeing all teams do their fast laps at the end and Willliams sticking to practice starts!
I sincerely hope the team was trying to rescue whatever they could today with a compromised car, because if they weren't... wow. Could be a long season.
EDIT- just saw their times were on C3. But then again so was Bottas', Schumacher's and Norris's. What gives? I'm confused.
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I sincerely hope the team was trying to rescue whatever they could today with a compromised car, because if they weren't... wow. Could be a long season.
EDIT- just saw their times were on C3. But then again so was Bottas', Schumacher's and Norris's. What gives? I'm confused.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: atheonr (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 16:15
You guys are overreacting way too much. It's clear that the team didn't focus on doing glory runs etc. When Albon did his fastest time he was lapping within 2 tenths of Vettel and both were on C3 tyres. Even today Horner said that we were looking competitive in long runs, so just chill a bit.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stu69 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 16:25
Recon we will be better come race day. Turn the PU up etc. if not sell the team to VW and put it out of its misery!
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Gwanni (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 17:03
Lots of laps on board. That is the most important. The team will take the data and hopefully we will be in a good shape in a week's time
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Anderis (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 18:20
Quote:I'm not quite onboard with this statement. In today's low attrition Formula1 there's little use of having a slow but reliable car. So the most important thing for me is how fast our car is fundamentally, not how many laps we have managed. Having done 50 more or fewer testing laps means very litle over a season compared to how good the car design is fundamentally. I wouldn't mind a troubled day and relatively few laps if all the analysis pointed towards us having great pace.Gwanni
Lots of laps on board. That is the most important.
Interestingly, most of people on Autosport seem to have us as the slowest team ATM after today.
I have no opinion because I've seen too little data.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: boro1986willliamsf1 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 19:50
Quote:AnderisQuote:I'm not quite onboard with this statement. In today's low attrition Formula1 there's little use of having a slow but reliable car. So the most important thing for me is how fast our car is fundamentally, not how many laps we have managed. Having done 50 more or fewer testing laps means very litle over a season compared to how good the car design is fundamentally. I wouldn't mind a troubled day and relatively few laps if all the analysis pointed towards us having great pace.Gwanni
Lots of laps on board. That is the most important.
Interestingly, most of people on Autosport seem to have us as the slowest team ATM after today.
I have no opinion because I've seen too little data.
The team are behind on the knowledge of the new tyres and wheels you forget that we never tested them so the last 6 days of testing we are now finding out about them other teams had already the knowledge the team also stated last year it will take time to gather the information on tyres and this is a long term turn around they don't expect to see instant results maybe in the next 2 years but I'm ever the optimist and hope through out the season we will fight on merit for points
100% Williams
WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS We HAVE A TEAM To Support
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stuart L (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 21:24
Best news toda
Y was Christian Hornets comments about our race pace. Everything else I’d ignore. Simply put there’s a man in the know giving us positive feedback.
Y was Christian Hornets comments about our race pace. Everything else I’d ignore. Simply put there’s a man in the know giving us positive feedback.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Myvatn (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 22:19
I think it is a bit concerning that Capito referred to "qualifying simulations" being done today. If so, ultimate pace was really bad. Hopefully it is a question of finding the right setup rather than outright lack of pace from the car, but still not the kind of results we all would have liked to see.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2022 23:52
I'm always kind of optimistic after testing but today was just weird. I can't muffle the alarm bells.
Scenario 1: The had a different program and didn't actually do any quick laps (despite the boss saying they'd do just that). Frustrating because it shows the team is in disarray.
Scenario 2: They tried the quick laps and ended up literally seconds off the pace of the next-closest competitor. Frustrating for obvious reasons.
So I find the hypothesis that the team didn't try any performance runs today utterly absurd. It's absurd if true and absurd if false. It's a lose-lose equation. I can't fathom how anyone can find comfort in that explanation.
Scenario 1: The had a different program and didn't actually do any quick laps (despite the boss saying they'd do just that). Frustrating because it shows the team is in disarray.
Scenario 2: They tried the quick laps and ended up literally seconds off the pace of the next-closest competitor. Frustrating for obvious reasons.
So I find the hypothesis that the team didn't try any performance runs today utterly absurd. It's absurd if true and absurd if false. It's a lose-lose equation. I can't fathom how anyone can find comfort in that explanation.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Myvatn (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 00:12
Yeah, if you take lap times at face value it almost looks like in 2019. Hopefully that’s not the case, and the team is just not yet able to fully express the FW44 potential.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Anderis (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 00:41
Quote:A pretty good summary. Capito said that they would do qualifying work with Albon today so the only options are:j-s
I'm always kind of optimistic after testing but today was just weird. I can't muffle the alarm bells.
Scenario 1: The had a different program and didn't actually do any quick laps (despite the boss saying they'd do just that). Frustrating because it shows the team is in disarray.
Scenario 2: They tried the quick laps and ended up literally seconds off the pace of the next-closest competitor. Frustrating for obvious reasons.
So I find the hypothesis that the team didn't try any performance runs today utterly absurd. It's absurd if true and absurd if false. It's a lose-lose equation. I can't fathom how anyone can find comfort in that explanation.
1. our qualifying pace was horrible
2. we had to run compromised equipment due to yesterday's incident
3. we're so much behind schedule that we had to make last minute changes to the program and we're the only team unable to make a qualifying run today
Neither of the 3 can be taken as positive.
The only glimpse of hope is that when I compared Albon long run pace from day 1 to Mercedes long run pace from day 2, it seemed to look pretty good and that Albon's day 1 time was already better than his day 3 time, despite the fact that his fastest lap had to be aborted due to a red flag.
But yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if we're P19 and P20 on the grid next week, unfortunately.
And don't forget Haas replaced Mazepin with Magnussen, that will make quite some difference in the context of fighting whichever team they're close to.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 01:03
Indeed Anderis.
I was particularly shocked about Alfa Romeo's pace with Bottas behind the wheel. If that were a Williams I'd be over the moon, honestly. That lap with C3 rubber is very good.
The Haas looked very competent. At least it didn't look like a backmarker.
The Williams looked dreadful. Granted, they'd only show it when it locked wheels and not when it was doing purple times, ahem, so who knows.
We'll see. Bad 2 days of testing. Surely just a hiccup in the long term plan of getting back to relevancy.
I was particularly shocked about Alfa Romeo's pace with Bottas behind the wheel. If that were a Williams I'd be over the moon, honestly. That lap with C3 rubber is very good.
The Haas looked very competent. At least it didn't look like a backmarker.
The Williams looked dreadful. Granted, they'd only show it when it locked wheels and not when it was doing purple times, ahem, so who knows.
We'll see. Bad 2 days of testing. Surely just a hiccup in the long term plan of getting back to relevancy.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
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Date: 13/03/2022 01:08
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
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Date: 13/03/2022 01:11
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
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Date: 13/03/2022 01:14
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 03:23
Back from karting so I did not get to closely follow the last day of F1 testing. But based on what I have read today sort of not sure how to view Williams Bahrain test. Pace to still somewhat off but who knows when it comes to test sessions.
I am going to have to wait until the actual race next weekend before I can honestly comment on where we stand in the early stages of the season.
But I do worry when I read comments like this from Capito in regard to the impact that the lack of tyre testing not just in the test sessions but also on the post 2021 season Pirelli test has had:
“Because we didn’t do the tyre test at the end of last year, that hurts us quite a lot. I think it will have an impact on the performance of the first races, having lost one sixth of the testing.
“It’s quite a lot to do and today we’ll try to get lots of data. There’s five different tyre compounds you have to go through and get all the data for that. And that’s quite tricky as we didn’t have any information about the tyres and the wheels before. I am sure it’s quite a disadvantage and I think it comes out that it has been a disadvantage.”
But on the flip side you see comments from Albon who seems genuinely positive about the FW44.
But overall I can understand some peoples reservations about where we stand just prior to the season start. Time will test. But please don't let my initial feelings towards the FW44 and 2022 prospects be some false dawn.
I am going to have to wait until the actual race next weekend before I can honestly comment on where we stand in the early stages of the season.
But I do worry when I read comments like this from Capito in regard to the impact that the lack of tyre testing not just in the test sessions but also on the post 2021 season Pirelli test has had:
“Because we didn’t do the tyre test at the end of last year, that hurts us quite a lot. I think it will have an impact on the performance of the first races, having lost one sixth of the testing.
“It’s quite a lot to do and today we’ll try to get lots of data. There’s five different tyre compounds you have to go through and get all the data for that. And that’s quite tricky as we didn’t have any information about the tyres and the wheels before. I am sure it’s quite a disadvantage and I think it comes out that it has been a disadvantage.”
But on the flip side you see comments from Albon who seems genuinely positive about the FW44.
But overall I can understand some peoples reservations about where we stand just prior to the season start. Time will test. But please don't let my initial feelings towards the FW44 and 2022 prospects be some false dawn.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 08:45
The team have made it clear they are struggling to understand the tyres and its my guess that they may not yet be switching on or getting the best from the softest compound tyres in quali trim. I'm not certain but williams tyre issues are backed up by Albon making a joke that latifis flaming breaks were an attempt to solve low rear tyre temperatures. This might explain the large discrepancy between christian horner singling them out for good long stint pace, and others comparing outright single laptime. It seemed to be a theme last year that red bull worked their tyres harder to extract more tyre temp and performance over a single lap relative to Mercedes before suffering worse tyre deg in the race.
Id take race pace over quali pace any day, esp given the feedback that its probably going to be easier to race this year. Albon knows how to overtake.
Id take race pace over quali pace any day, esp given the feedback that its probably going to be easier to race this year. Albon knows how to overtake.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 09:08
It may be a lot harder to get temperature into the rear tyres on low fuel than high fuel as there is less load going through them.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: peterdebel (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 10:17
Hmmm....
Skysports also think we are botton 3 in the pecking order, with Alfa and Haas.
*SiGH*
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Skysports also think we are botton 3 in the pecking order, with Alfa and Haas.
*SiGH*
[www.skysports.com]
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 10:54
Morning Guys.
First and foremost i would like to say that i still have 100% confidence in the new leasership at Williams ,owners and design team and engineers ..
I now think at long last we have a bunch of some very clever people at the Williams helm and they will do us proud over the coming years.
I think yesterday Williams altered there pre planned schedule after losing all of Tuesday one 1/3 rd
of there test time here at Bahrain, and concentrated solely on the new wheels and tire learming/data gathering..
I think the only reason they put Albon in the car for 18 laps was maybe to check the car after it,s major fire damage and maybe test a setup change before Lattifi started his all day tire data gathering session.
It has now been confirmed we are behind the curve regarding understanding the new size wheel and tires and that could take us up till mid season to get a full handle on but this will not stop further development of the new package just slow it down to some degree whilst we learn..
The new car looks the part and with the Merc engine and Gearbox we should have one of the best
power and drive packages under the hood.
We have had quite a few contradictory statements from our drivers, pundits,comentators ex F1 drivers and Christian Horner on how the 44 is performing, ranging from good potencial to last in the pecking order. to running on rails and solid to awfull and then very decent long run pace, so who knows yet.
Keep the faith it could tough for a while longer yet but i am sure we will be rewarded at some stage before this new season is over.
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First and foremost i would like to say that i still have 100% confidence in the new leasership at Williams ,owners and design team and engineers ..
I now think at long last we have a bunch of some very clever people at the Williams helm and they will do us proud over the coming years.
I think yesterday Williams altered there pre planned schedule after losing all of Tuesday one 1/3 rd
of there test time here at Bahrain, and concentrated solely on the new wheels and tire learming/data gathering..
I think the only reason they put Albon in the car for 18 laps was maybe to check the car after it,s major fire damage and maybe test a setup change before Lattifi started his all day tire data gathering session.
It has now been confirmed we are behind the curve regarding understanding the new size wheel and tires and that could take us up till mid season to get a full handle on but this will not stop further development of the new package just slow it down to some degree whilst we learn..
The new car looks the part and with the Merc engine and Gearbox we should have one of the best
power and drive packages under the hood.
We have had quite a few contradictory statements from our drivers, pundits,comentators ex F1 drivers and Christian Horner on how the 44 is performing, ranging from good potencial to last in the pecking order. to running on rails and solid to awfull and then very decent long run pace, so who knows yet.
Keep the faith it could tough for a while longer yet but i am sure we will be rewarded at some stage before this new season is over.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: AlanJones (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 11:41
I still think Williams is solid in the midfield pack.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 11:44
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 12:50
My guess as things stand right now: in the fight to get into q2 but probably out in q1. In the fight to get p10 in the race. But the pecking order will change rapidly as team understands their package and as each team introduces crucial updates.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: boro1986willliamsf1 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 16:54
Quote:I would take that 👍AlanJones
I still think Williams is solid in the midfield pack.
100% Williams
WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS We HAVE A TEAM To Support
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Ozzy Osbone (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2022 23:49
Me too. That would be awesome to be at least fighting for Q3 every time and a good chance of points or a lucky podium. Start of the fight back at last.
Or as said, flog it as there is little point.
Or as said, flog it as there is little point.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: redline (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 05:35
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 10:00
With all the changes made back at Grove new leaders ,designers updated equipment and processes
Plus the amount of study and time and old lessons learnt from the recent Williams duds,i will not
allow myself to believe we have made the same mistake again.
So they may not be in the position they had hoped for at this stage just yet but they will dig deep
and pull together and slowly start to release the full potential of this new car soon.
It would not be logical to keep making the same old mistakes year after year, these are very clever people who have designed bold car.
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Plus the amount of study and time and old lessons learnt from the recent Williams duds,i will not
allow myself to believe we have made the same mistake again.
So they may not be in the position they had hoped for at this stage just yet but they will dig deep
and pull together and slowly start to release the full potential of this new car soon.
It would not be logical to keep making the same old mistakes year after year, these are very clever people who have designed bold car.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stuart L (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 11:12
I just think Christian Horners word’s hold the most weight. He said Williams could spring a surprise based on long run pace.
Let’s be honest, the journalists / technical commentators don’t have the data and analysts of the major teams. When a team principle says Williams could be the surprise of the year I take that comment on board.
In no way does that infer we are in the bottom two teams, it infers we are midfield in my opinion.
I’ve felt Albon has looked confident in all his interviews too.
Let’s be honest, the journalists / technical commentators don’t have the data and analysts of the major teams. When a team principle says Williams could be the surprise of the year I take that comment on board.
In no way does that infer we are in the bottom two teams, it infers we are midfield in my opinion.
I’ve felt Albon has looked confident in all his interviews too.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 14:51
I think you are cherrypicking comments made offhand by a biased competitor. You are aware that Horner has one of his employees driving for our team?
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 14:52
I'm not saying he's completely wrong. I just don't think he's a realiable source at this point.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 15:02
I know we missed the new wheel and tire test with a mule car ,but Pirelli have provided us with all
the relevant data from that test for our engineers to work with.
So we have not been totally blind and guessing with the new dimentions and effects.
We should be in the ball park at least.
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the relevant data from that test for our engineers to work with.
So we have not been totally blind and guessing with the new dimentions and effects.
We should be in the ball park at least.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 15:18
I think hope that unless our car was lighting up the timing screens not many of the rival teams would bother checking our performance to closely..
Seems like only really the last 2 days of testing we got written off by almost everyone ,so who knows.
If we have issues with the tire temp is that not a case of redesigning some of the suspension
which if necessary we can afford to do now.
I would say chassis and hardware location is fine because the balance is good so they tell us.
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Seems like only really the last 2 days of testing we got written off by almost everyone ,so who knows.
If we have issues with the tire temp is that not a case of redesigning some of the suspension
which if necessary we can afford to do now.
I would say chassis and hardware location is fine because the balance is good so they tell us.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stuart L (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 15:58
Quote:j-s
I'm not saying he's completely wrong. I just don't think he's a realiable source at this point.
I’d just say it’s great to have stuff to talk through with fellow Williams fans. 4 days till we have a better idea where we are…long runs on Friday I’d assume
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 17:23
All the other teams forums putting us 9th or last now.
I have one thing to say.
I will not fall into despair.
Come on Williams.
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I have one thing to say.
I will not fall into despair.
Come on Williams.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: boro1986willliamsf1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 17:52
Haas for me did glory runs ,Alfa Unknown, Aston seem to struggle, McLaren seem to be struggling in Bahrain so who knows roll on next Sunday
100% Williams
WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS We HAVE A TEAM To Support
100% Williams
WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS We HAVE A TEAM To Support
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 14/03/2022 18:06
I'm no engineer, but based on what engineers have said in the past, to switch on tyres can be as simple as a different set up, but sometimes may need some aero or suspension changes. It's a fairly common problem.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: redline (IP Logged)
Date: 15/03/2022 02:37
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Stu69 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/03/2022 07:09
It is pretty clear we are not top 10 and more like bottom 5 which is mega disappointing but having said that the testing fire ruined our program. Lots of work to do to recover. (Yet again!)
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 15/03/2022 08:25
Yes agreed bottom 5 as we start of the new season but that is were we was expected to be if we can finish the season 7th that is the target 6th is a bridge to far this season with only maybe one decent driver.
If at some stage this season we can see promise/pace emerging from this new car and Albon able to capitalise on it then fine.
I do not expect much from Lattif to be honest all due respect.
Again we just need to see pace from this new car and not focus to much on finishing positions and points on the board. at this stage
Our new leaders and designers have a lot to learn about F1 Racing but rest assured
they will do what ever it takes to achieve that as quick as possible,if something is not working
they will not hesitate to recify / replace/ it / them in the blink of an eye unlike the old pondering Williams leaders.
Lets see how far the new leaders/designers can push us up the grid this year.
The very best finishing place achievable fo us this season realistically is 6th MAX.
Just to remind everyone it will take years for Williams to challange for championships
we have to be very patient but the process has begun.
Lets Go Racing.
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If at some stage this season we can see promise/pace emerging from this new car and Albon able to capitalise on it then fine.
I do not expect much from Lattif to be honest all due respect.
Again we just need to see pace from this new car and not focus to much on finishing positions and points on the board. at this stage
Our new leaders and designers have a lot to learn about F1 Racing but rest assured
they will do what ever it takes to achieve that as quick as possible,if something is not working
they will not hesitate to recify / replace/ it / them in the blink of an eye unlike the old pondering Williams leaders.
Lets see how far the new leaders/designers can push us up the grid this year.
The very best finishing place achievable fo us this season realistically is 6th MAX.
Just to remind everyone it will take years for Williams to challange for championships
we have to be very patient but the process has begun.
Lets Go Racing.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Anderis (IP Logged)
Date: 15/03/2022 12:18
I've made a small analysis of long run pace from the Bahrain tests and it really doesn't look good for Williams. We've had the worst long run pace by a margin.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 15/03/2022 12:49
Hmm ok.
Not sure What Horner is seeing then.
But from all the other bits of info we have about our car you could be right, i am sad to say.
But we will get there i am sure.
Cheers.
Not sure What Horner is seeing then.
But from all the other bits of info we have about our car you could be right, i am sad to say.
But we will get there i am sure.
Cheers.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Anderis (IP Logged)
Date: 15/03/2022 16:35
More conclusions from my analysis if anyone is interested:
- Red Bull looks the strongest team
- Mercedes have not mastered their Bahrain's package, yet
- Aston Martin fly a bit under the radar, they seem to have strong pace
My analysis might be very inaccurate because I just settled for some very rough estimates to save myself work and was happy with having a very general idea instead of running a detailed analysis.
- Red Bull looks the strongest team
- Mercedes have not mastered their Bahrain's package, yet
- Aston Martin fly a bit under the radar, they seem to have strong pace
My analysis might be very inaccurate because I just settled for some very rough estimates to save myself work and was happy with having a very general idea instead of running a detailed analysis.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 16/03/2022 09:08
Considering they brought no visible updates to the Bahrain test it,s quite possible we might
have a decent size revision for the first or second race.
have a decent size revision for the first or second race.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Steven (IP Logged)
Date: 16/03/2022 17:54
After Barcelona I had Williams down for top 5. After Bahrain back end of the top 10.
Some are saying this is 2019 all over again but I don't think that is the case. Back then we had severe panic coming from the team, leaks suggesting the car was inherently bad with press releases giving excuses for what was to come. That hasn't been the case this year at all but the headline times just never came.
Is this down to sandbagging and just not revealing the true pace or did the lack of a mule car really set us back a test or two?
I have looked at some of the numbers and I cannot decipher whether we are going to qualifying around the top ten or P18-P20 as I don't think we have shown our hand just yet.
The FW44 is a beauty, surely it can't be a dog of a car???
Some are saying this is 2019 all over again but I don't think that is the case. Back then we had severe panic coming from the team, leaks suggesting the car was inherently bad with press releases giving excuses for what was to come. That hasn't been the case this year at all but the headline times just never came.
Is this down to sandbagging and just not revealing the true pace or did the lack of a mule car really set us back a test or two?
I have looked at some of the numbers and I cannot decipher whether we are going to qualifying around the top ten or P18-P20 as I don't think we have shown our hand just yet.
The FW44 is a beauty, surely it can't be a dog of a car???
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 16/03/2022 19:08
Williams has absolutely no reason whatsoever to sandbag. I makes no sense. I think we got all the team could muster. Could be a tough year. Or maybe not. Who knows.
I'll say it again. Whoever builds a car that is responsive to updates will fare better this season. Hope that applies to Williams.
I'll say it again. Whoever builds a car that is responsive to updates will fare better this season. Hope that applies to Williams.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Anderis (IP Logged)
Date: 16/03/2022 19:22
Quote:What I did was to look for the slowest but consistent and legit long stint for each team.Steven
After Barcelona I had Williams down for top 5. After Bahrain back end of the top 10.
Some are saying this is 2019 all over again but I don't think that is the case. Back then we had severe panic coming from the team, leaks suggesting the car was inherently bad with press releases giving excuses for what was to come. That hasn't been the case this year at all but the headline times just never came.
Is this down to sandbagging and just not revealing the true pace or did the lack of a mule car really set us back a test or two?
I have looked at some of the numbers and I cannot decipher whether we are going to qualifying around the top ten or P18-P20 as I don't think we have shown our hand just yet.
The idea was that every team would surely run with a full tank at some point (probably a lot of race simulations on the last day) so my best chance was to find that full tank run for every team and compare.
Unfortunately, Williams had a lot of laps in the 1:43's, sometimes even in 1:44's. Most of the teams would never have that slow of a stint ever. Even Bottas would keep his slowest runs in the 1:42's or below (Zhou tended to be MUCH slower than him, though). Red Bull would rarely exceed 1:39's and Aston Martin 1:40's.
I would mostly look at the day 3 but knowing what had happened to Williams, I also took a look at what happened on day 1 and Albon was still significantly slower than Bottas for example on his long runs.
Of course there could be other explanations but it doesn't look promising for Williams.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 16/03/2022 20:25
I have read and listened to so many views and opinions on the pace of the 44 and never have i been so confused on were we stand.
But if a car can light up the timing screens you usually get a glimpse at some point were as with the 44 we have not seen anything at all to indicate that.
But these new guys should be able to design a decent car.
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But if a car can light up the timing screens you usually get a glimpse at some point were as with the 44 we have not seen anything at all to indicate that.
But these new guys should be able to design a decent car.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Steven (IP Logged)
Date: 16/03/2022 21:00
Red Bull did a 9 lap stint in the low 38s on day 3. If Williams did representative laptimes in the 43s and 44s then that would suggest we are 5-6 seconds a lap slower than what we expect to be the fastest car out there. That would also mean the car is significantly slower than the diabolical FW42 of 2019 but nothing out there tells me it's anywhere near that bad.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: redline (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2022 05:01
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Me Amor (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2022 06:37
sadly - so many f1 website, no one excited to talk about fw44😒🙄😴
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2022 09:13
We need some work to do as honestly there is a lot of lap time that we can get in this car just by having a better balance but its hard to know is it the tyres, is it the car, the stiffness of the car.
This worries me the most from Albon.
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This worries me the most from Albon.
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: SB308 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2022 14:15
Bad news guys.
"Jost Capito does not have too high hopes for the start of the 2022 racing year."
"Everything is different in Formula 1 in 2022 – including the tyres. While the other teams tested the new tires last year and were thus able to gather valuable knowledge about the rubber, Williams lacks all this information because: When the decision had to be made in 2020 whether to drive 2021 extra kilometers with the new tires would be decided against at the time, still under the old team management and before the team was sold. To save costs!
"We're going into the first race to learn a lot more," says Capito. "We have to learn an awful lot about the tyres, that's the most important thing for us." It is clear that Williams has "a very big disadvantage due to the lack of tire data". Bitter! So the motto is: learn, learn, learn instead of scoring, scoring, scoring.
[www.rtl.de]
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"Jost Capito does not have too high hopes for the start of the 2022 racing year."
"Everything is different in Formula 1 in 2022 – including the tyres. While the other teams tested the new tires last year and were thus able to gather valuable knowledge about the rubber, Williams lacks all this information because: When the decision had to be made in 2020 whether to drive 2021 extra kilometers with the new tires would be decided against at the time, still under the old team management and before the team was sold. To save costs!
"We're going into the first race to learn a lot more," says Capito. "We have to learn an awful lot about the tyres, that's the most important thing for us." It is clear that Williams has "a very big disadvantage due to the lack of tire data". Bitter! So the motto is: learn, learn, learn instead of scoring, scoring, scoring.
[www.rtl.de]
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2022 17:46
That,s it then at least we know for sure now.
We start at the back on the back foot with lots to learn sounds like quite a bit to change on the car.
Lets see how fast we can learn and bring updates.
We start at the back on the back foot with lots to learn sounds like quite a bit to change on the car.
Lets see how fast we can learn and bring updates.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Damon96 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2022 18:14
This bit isn’t in quotes
Bitter! So the motto is: learn, learn, learn instead of scoring, scoring, scoring
So I’m not sure if they are really his words, unless someone speaks German and can directly translate the video.
Still don’t understand the lack of mule car, even after they bought the team they had 15 months to develop one, would it have really not been possible to sort one?
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Bitter! So the motto is: learn, learn, learn instead of scoring, scoring, scoring
So I’m not sure if they are really his words, unless someone speaks German and can directly translate the video.
Still don’t understand the lack of mule car, even after they bought the team they had 15 months to develop one, would it have really not been possible to sort one?
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2022 23:43
Old news, he said that through the bahrain test.Even without his words, the writting was on the wall when we were the only team to not participate in those tests.You can't miss a valuable test and get away with it.
The only positivity in this interview for me is that after near 17 yrs we have an absolute straight forward talking boss.No bullshit PR like Claire who pretended everything is under control even before '19 season.
The last time I can remember someone being honest about our position was the start of 2005, Patrick explaining situations and lowering the expectations of our drivers line up.
You make a car with aero, mechanical stuff, pu, electronics, gearbox and stuff and all of the are used by 4 shoes which are the tyres.That's vital.so there should be a big potential to be locked up only with understanding them better and then going for development on mechanical and aero updates.As far as I'm aware, every other 9 teams brought something between 2 tests.All of them...We didn't, so it's clear we have not fully understood the car and what it needs to add performance.
We can have a night and day season when they manage to overcome these issues.
The only positivity in this interview for me is that after near 17 yrs we have an absolute straight forward talking boss.No bullshit PR like Claire who pretended everything is under control even before '19 season.
The last time I can remember someone being honest about our position was the start of 2005, Patrick explaining situations and lowering the expectations of our drivers line up.
You make a car with aero, mechanical stuff, pu, electronics, gearbox and stuff and all of the are used by 4 shoes which are the tyres.That's vital.so there should be a big potential to be locked up only with understanding them better and then going for development on mechanical and aero updates.As far as I'm aware, every other 9 teams brought something between 2 tests.All of them...We didn't, so it's clear we have not fully understood the car and what it needs to add performance.
We can have a night and day season when they manage to overcome these issues.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Ozzy Osbone (IP Logged)
Date: 18/03/2022 02:39
Yeah, I think let's reserve judgement for a few races at least. Get some serious miles on the car in different surfaces and temperatures. Tyres are so crucial to get right and we are no doubt on the back foot but to me the car looks good so that will be our first task.
We need to see this is as a new beginning and have a little patience. We have seen flashes of promise for the last few years but probably didn't have the right people to push through and get to the next level, then the next.
We need to see this is as a new beginning and have a little patience. We have seen flashes of promise for the last few years but probably didn't have the right people to push through and get to the next level, then the next.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: redline (IP Logged)
Date: 18/03/2022 02:55
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: redline (IP Logged)
Date: 18/03/2022 03:05
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Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: Ozzy Osbone (IP Logged)
Date: 18/03/2022 05:40
Haas above AT? Wow.
I think RBR, Merc, Ferrari, Mclaren, Alpine, AT, Aston, Williams, AR, Haas.
I think RBR, Merc, Ferrari, Mclaren, Alpine, AT, Aston, Williams, AR, Haas.
Re: Williams Racing Bahrain 2022 Pre-Season Track Session
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 18/03/2022 07:43
Quote:redline
In the latest Formula 1 gossip column, Haas team boss Guenther Steiner thinks the wide sidepod design has ‘greater potential’ as opposed to Mercedes and Williams’ slimmer concepts.
We had it in the wind tunnel last July, and we already noticed there that it gives advantages in slow corners. But as an overall package, we saw greater potential in wide sidepods.”
Andy Shovelin, engineer at Mercedes gave a good interview where he was asked about his confidence over whether Mercedes had taken the best route with the sidepods. His answer was admirable, saying that when you are struggling, you are never 100% confident you have the best solution and they were open minded but that making a sidepod bigger doesn't require any major internal repackaging. Their problem seems to be how to solve porpoising without removing bits of floor and slowing the car down, and like williams seem to give themselves 5 or 6 races to learn and fix it. He said the key thing was not to panic.
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