Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm


By Ivybridge Wolf
September 15 2024

With a whole bunch of draws for sides above us yesterday and another remarkable Everton defeat, there is an opportunity for Wolves to jump a few places this afternoon against unbeaten Newcastle United. That’s if we win, and we’ve only beaten The Toon twice since 2018/19 with an amazing 7 draws in a total of 12 fixtures. We could really do with that first league win of the season, by hook or by crook and get Molineux rocking again.

Johnstone will surely start in goal after a solid start v Forest with Sa on the bench. Sa won’t be happy with the situation, and I hope he fights for his place, nevertheless if he has lost his grip on the ‘number 1’ shirt I can’t see him hanging around. The bottom line is that Sa has been a good shot stopper but his distribution and composure with the ball at his feet often leads to many an unnecessary heart flutter!

Reports are that Lemina and Ait-Nouri both require late fitness tests prior to the game, fingers crossed that they are ready to go but at least Mosquera is fit after seizing up with cramp playing in Colombia’s 2-1 win v Argentina. Worth mentioning that Joao Gomes also played for Brazil, beaten by Paraguay 1-0. A bit of a shock.

O’Neil still needs to find the right formula in selection and formation. And like all sides, a bit of luck. It’s not been a terrific start, and despite a tough fixture opening, we need a win. Forest was a step in the right direction but in a week when discussion about the days of spending big is over, we could do with a boost. What a relief therefore that Wolves have launched a new ‘hyper violet’ (commonly known as  purple) 3rd strip described as "bold, rebellious and fearless" which represents Wolves' "fearless attitude and relentless pursuit of victory, both on and off the pitch”. So in effect, GON, the players and the fans have nothing to worry about or fear!!!

Okay, the stats aren’t great, the winless league run now extends to 13 (D3, L9) losing 5 of the last 6 at Molineux and GON has never beaten an Eddie Howe team. Conversely Howe has never won at Molineux. Quite a mixed bag of past fortunes. Newcastle currently hold a great scoring record, netting in 22 of their last 23 premier league games, however and luckily for us, Hwang nearly always scores v Toon with four goals from five appearances. Overall, we all know that they will provide Wolves with a test today but we are due a win ….. especially that August is now over.

The match is to be covered live by Sky and will be the last premier league match of the weekend. It’s 4.30pm kick off which means I will likely be down the Duke of Cornwall with the Ivybridge Wolves crowd cheering them on!

I hope we play well and give us all the opportunity to relish our first 3 points of the season. It’s time we beat Newcastle and with a more cohesive performance (and that slice of fortune I alluded to) I am sure that we can. Hopefully we can build on that decent away point at the City ground and expunge the memories of the last time out at Molineux!!

All the best, please leave your match comments in the thread below.

UTW!!

Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: Wolves (IP Logged)
Date: 15/09/2024 13:11

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Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: Lupy (IP Logged)
Date: 15/09/2024 13:17

Optimistic about this afternoon which I think will be a high scoring game. Fingers crossed we outscore them so looking forward to a 3_ 2 victory.

Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: Ivybridge Wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 15/09/2024 15:40

Team is out, no great surprises as Lemina and RAN deemed fit

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Subs: Jose Sa, Doherty, Bueno, Hwang, Rodrigo Gomes, Doyle, Sarabia, Borges, Goncalo Guedes.

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Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: essington wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 15/09/2024 18:45

Threw the game away second half.
2 long range efforts and the games over.
Unlucky with the deflection for their first goal but what the hell is doc doing for their second, he just stands there and there's no challenge and Barnes has a free hit, just pathetic.
He's not up to premier league football anymore that's for sure.
To much slow build up play and sideways football again.
Can't see where a win is going to come from if we keep gifting sloppy goals away.
Worrying times.

Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: Ivybridge Wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 15/09/2024 19:20

Your last sentence Essington is key and foremost in my mind. When will we get that first win? Villa away next week 😳

I genuinely feel a draw would been fair today but what is fair does not cut the mustard on the pitch. Pope made a few great saves as did Johnstone and we had our chances, as did they, but I was just as disappointed with Doc not getting a tackle into Barnes nut the finish was superb.

We retreated and lost the momentum in the lead up to the equaliser and I felt Newcastle deserved it for their persistence but the fortune they got off Dawsons head was gualing. Johnstone would have otherwise got it.

Overall I’m not convinced that we have the players at the back for a ‘back 4’ though I appreciate it gives us more bite up front. I can only hope that we address basic errors before Villa.

There were some good performances, Lemina, Dawson, Joao Gomes, but not enough to get us across the line.

Very disappointing. Very frustrating.

UTW

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Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: essington wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 15/09/2024 20:04

Hope you are right about a win at villa ivy but I can't see it really, we just can't keep a clean sheet.
Yes it was a great strike from Barnes but Doc has to do much better than that especially with his experience.
Barnes has always been a thorn in our side even when he was at Leicester, i feared the worst when I saw him coming out for the 2nd half.
On the plus side andre looks a player.
Got a feeling it will get worse before it gets better.
Let's hope it does get better.
1 win in the last 14 games doesn't usually bode well for managers, not saying he should go but we need a result to boost flagging confidence.



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Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: Risca TM (IP Logged)
Date: 16/09/2024 08:12

"We knew the run of fixtures was tough but today’s performance and how far we pushed a Newcastle side who were in the Champions League last season … there was a lot of good in that. I see a team that stuck together, produced an awful lot of quality and went toe-to-toe with a team who are going to be higher up the league than us.”

I think this is a pretty pathetic outlook from O'Neil. Newcastle have not been playing well, and this was a game when we had a great chance to get our first win. How can a manager approach a match with that attitude? Also he looked clueless in how and when to use his substitutes proactively.

From the beginning I've had the feeling that O'Neil is out of his depth and waiting to be found out. The season so far (and the tail end of last season) has not eased my concerns.

Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: An angry wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 16/09/2024 23:11

Managers don't really matter, can anyone name a manager since Stan Cullis managing wolves that wouldn't have had threads like this if the internet existed at the time? It isn't a coincidence EVERY single manager is sh*t at wolves, it's a club that has limited investment and always has done ( for around the last 70 years). If Fosun were investing, everyone would be back to chanting about super Gaz - it was only 6 months ago people on here were delighted he had signed a new contract. It's all a circus in reality. Even if O Neil is sacked, a new manager will come in and get the likely manager bounce of a new guy coming in only for the same comments this time next year about Moyes etc needing to be sacked.

If we get relegated, is it a disaster where the club is just aiming to avoid relegation and go for a good run in a cup. It's as fcking dull as ditch water! I think the only person apart from me not delighted O Neil signed a new contract was Risca, everyone else was taken in by the new manager bounce. Even under Nuno many were saying he had been " found out" in his latter days, we hardly scored any goals and he made some dreadful signings such as Silva and Cutrone. It isn't a coincidence every wolves manager is dreadful, the club has simply reached it's ceiling of financial power and has nowhere else to go.

Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: An angry wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 16/09/2024 23:13

Regarding Nuno I honestly believe if he had been appointed in the Morgan era before at least some investment from Fosun he would have been sacked fairly quickly with us still stuck in the championship. We got promoted due to having portugese internationals in the team playing in the championship, not some great manager.

Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: Ivybridge Wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 17/09/2024 09:21

Welcome back Angry, there'ss till time to enter the prediction league ...... with your acumen, any difference will be made up in a few weeks!

I think managers do make a difference, a decent manager can determine how any team functions any any walk of life e.g. in the office, for football etc. It's getting the best out of people and setting the right tone. But I do agree that the overall strategic approach from the board and owners sets the scene for success and yes, Fosun don't appear as committed as they once were and there are the issues of footballing financial shakles which favour certain clubs over others. So much for competition. Nothing we have said before.

I think we were unlucky to lose against Newcastle TBH, but didn't deserve to win either. I have always supported the appointment of GON, noting the belt tightening at Wolves, but even I now worry where the next point is coming from. Perhaps we'll surprise a few at Villa Park. We need that win

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Re: Match Thread: Wolves v Newcastle United 15.09.24 KO 4.30pm
Posted by: An angry wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2024 01:02

Cheers Ivy, not really back just commenting on the manager situation. If managers made a difference, they wouldn't all keep being sacked from every club in every league in the world. The typical manager goes to a club, gets a reaction from players as a new face with an upturn in results and then eventually results sour meaning he gets sacked with the whole sorry cycle repeated ad- infinitum. The only exception are managers with huge budgets at clubs like Liverpool, city who simply spend hundreds of millions on world class players where tactics become mainly irrelevant- it's just flat out attack with class players to blow teams away. Pep and Klopp wouldn't do any better at wolves than GON or any other stooge we have had here in living memory. Ultimately the wage budgets almost always correlate with league position.. we're one of the lowest spenders on wages in the league so will never be at the top end of it no matter who comes in.

We all know what will happen, GON will get sacked at some point ( the 4 year contract is ridiculous and awful decision making from Fosun), someone like Moyes will come in, results will pick up and eventually we will sink back to our level which is 12th- 20th with Moyes /whoever sacked and endless repetition. One of the reasons I stopped watching it all - it's tedious and bloody boring. Fosun must be fairly stupid if they think GON is tactically astute, he is very young for a manager, nothing on his cv and unlikely to command respect of the players. Although managers aren't that important compared to budgets, I do think a more respected manager would get slightly better results but we will never win or get close to winning anything realistically so it's all p*ssing in the wind. I'd like to see sky go bust and the whole thing come crumbling down going back to an era of times gone by without the ridiculous money in football.

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