Q&A with Jarno & Mike


By Karl & Toyota F1 Media
December 3 2004

OK, I admit they're a bit late, but here are the end-of-season interviews with Jarno Trulli and Mike Gascoyne after the season ended .

Q+A with Jarno Trulli




What have you been doing since the end-of-season Brazilian Grand Prix?
Since the final race of the season in Brazil, I've had some time off – which is always welcome after a hard year. I spent a few days in Pescara, then some time in Switzerland relaxing with my wife, family and friends, then a week in England. We now have three weeks of testing before the Christmas break, when I'll probably go back to Switzerland to see more friends, do some skiing and prepare for the new season.




What have you been testing so far this winter?
We don't have a hybrid car for the winter testing, but we have been working on small parts for the 2005 car in areas like the electronics. Apart from that I've been working on tests of the tyre casings in preparation for the longer runs they'll have to do next year.

You've still been running in this year's TF104B. What is it like to drive?
The TF104B is exceptionally easy to find out how to drive. It gives an honest response it still has the potential to be made quicker. When I got here I found a better car and team than I had anticipated. We just need to improve on the consistency and learn to get more out of the tyres.

Toyota's new TF105 is due on the track quite early. How does that affect preparations for 2005?
We think we'll be on the track with the TF105 early in January, and I fully support the idea of getting the new car out as soon as possible. With so many major rule changes it's important to get the car running early so we can concentrate on it and iron out problems before the first race.

How hard is it to have come to a team knowing that it has a long way to go to reach the front of the grid?
When I came to Toyota I wanted a challenge. This is a big challenge, but I know that there is potential to win with this team. That's why I'm here. Personally I was very satisfied with the job I did at my last team. When I arrived they were sixth in the constructors' championship and we were in second place when I left the team. It would be nice to do the same with this team. I won't say it's easy to step in a winning car and win races, but it's much more challenging and satisfying if you can join a team and help take it to the top.




Do you think Toyota has what it takes to make it towards the front?
Of course, to make the biggest step to the front of the field, the team needs good management – but that's exactly what I believe Toyota has. Toyota has the mentality to make it there – even if it takes time. It has the potential, so it's just a matter of having the right people and experience. So far I think Mike Gascoyne has done a good job to organise a new, young team. Now they also have experienced people in the team and experienced drivers who can give a lot of input to the team. Hopefully soon we will see some good results.

In your short time at the team can you sense that things are moving in the right direction?
In the short time that I have been a Toyota driver, I already have the impression that we are moving in the right direction, although we will not be able to confirm that until we get the new car. That means there is a lot of expectation for next year, although we're being careful not to raise those expectations too high.




Do you have particular targets for next season?
I would like to aim to try and score points at as many races as possible next season. Coming from the position we are in at the moment, it would be nice to take a step closer to the top teams. But I'm keeping my feet on the ground because I know from experience that progress takes time. With more experience, we will be able to set much higher expectations.

Q+A with Mike Gascoyne




With preparations for the 2005 world championship well underway at various test locations around Europe, Technical Director Chassis of Panasonic Toyota Racing, Mike Gascoyne, talks about what the team hopes to achieve from the winter test programme. The Englishman also discusses the 2005 Toyota driver line-up, changes to the technical regulations and the development of the new TF105 race car.




What is Panasonic Toyota Racing's winter testing programme?
The period in the run-up to the new season will be hectic for all teams, but even more so for Toyota because we have obviously got two new drivers – Ralf Schumacher and Jarno Trulli. The first test in Barcelona was mainly about getting both Ralf and Jarno fully settled into the team. Of course, we were able to bring Jarno into the race team for the Japanese and Brazilian Grands Prix, and it was beneficial to both parties for him to start work earlier than expected. I am sure that Ralf will get settled in just as quickly.



Does having two new race drivers affect the team's approach for 2005?
Having the new drivers will not particularly affect the way we work. We have got a lot of Michelin tyre testing to do because of the change in the tyre regulations which requires us to run on the same tyres for a whole race, so we are running revised casings in preparation for next year. We also have a lot of engine mileage to do – with the increased mileage required over two race weekends, we need to make sure next year's engine is reliable. So Olivier (Panis) has also been testing at Paul Ricard, putting a lot of miles on the engine and working on next year's electronics. We won't be running a hybrid car, so the new rear end will run for the first time when we run the new car.

When can we expect to see the new TF105?
The TF105 is being finished at the moment, and it should be ready before Christmas. That means that we will be available to run it as soon as the Christmas and New Year test ban has been lifted in January. Although we are introducing the TF105 comparatively early, there will be significant development on it before the first race of the season. We will have a totally new aerodynamic package in Melbourne, but we want to run the new car as soon as possible in order to get it reliable for the Australian Grand Prix. There is a lot of work to be done on the new car, but we will also be running the TF104B for a lot of the tyre work in the run-up to the opening race.

Why did Panasonic Toyota Racing opt for Jarno Trulli and Ralf Schumacher?
Both Ralf and Jarno are proven race winners and I think they are both very quick. Jarno is exceptional over one lap, but in his career he has struggled for consistency in races. However, in the first half of 2004 he did an excellent job before relationships deteriorated for him at Renault. For his first win at Monaco, he had pole, was quickest in practically every session and led every lap of the race. That is quite an achievement!



What about Ralf?
Ralf is also very quick and he's won several races in his career. Again, there is perhaps some evidence of a lack of consistency down the years. On some weekends he seems to dominate his team-mate and is just unbelievable. At some of the races he has won in the past he has seemed to dominate the entire weekend, but at other times he seems not to be at that level. So I think both Ralf and Jarno are drivers who need to be in the right frame of mind to perform consistently, and a lot of that has to do with having the right team and the right environment around them. We have got to make sure that we give them a car with which they can do their best, and that we create the environment where they can do that consistently.



What feedback are you expecting from Jarno and Ralf?
Obviously both Jarno and Ralf can compare the strengths and weaknesses of our package with the cars they've driven in the past. We pretty much know where our car is weak in terms of its aerodynamics, but the drivers can also give input into that. They can also really help the motivation of the whole team in Cologne. At the race track, they need to work professionally with the engineers and mechanics to make sure we get the best not just out of the car but out of the whole operation over a race or test.



With four drivers on board who raced in 2004, Toyota has an impressive driver line-up overall. How crucial is that to next year?
The fact that Jarno and Ralf are supported by two highly experienced guys like Olivier and Ricardo (Zonta) is extremely important. With Olivier staying on as test and reserve driver and Ricardo as the driver of the third car at grands prix, I think Panasonic Toyota Racing has the most experienced line-up of all the teams. It means we've got two race drivers absolutely at the top of their game, proven race winners, and we have got unparalleled experience in the test drivers with Olivier and Ricardo. That's a pretty impressive line-up, especially for a team that finished eighth in the championship, and it should give the whole team a lot of confidence.

The FIA has introduced a number of rule changes for the 2005 season. How have they affected the design of the TF105?
There are changes in each of the key technical areas for next season, aimed at reducing the performance of F1 cars. On the chassis side, the changes are mostly aerodynamic. We have to raise the front wing, move the rear wing forwards and limit the maximum height of the diffuser - all of which means we should lose a reasonable amount of downforce without losing any drag. On the initial running we lost 25 percent of the car's downforce, but obviously we're working in the wind tunnel to gain as much of that back as possible.

To what extent did the late confirmation of 2005 regulations affect the development of the TF105?
To be honest, the late implementation of technical changes for 2005 has not been too much of a hindrance to us. The FIA put forward some suggestions and there was a process we had to go through in order for them to impose them. But really from August we were assuming that the regulations we were working to were accurate, and that's what actually happened. The changes probably affected us more in terms of this past season's car, rather than the TF105. When we introduced the TF104B we aimed to keep working on that until the end of the year, but because of the rule change we chose not to, and we purely concentrated on the TF105. That meant we didn't really get significant development on the 104B, so certainly that hurt us toward the end of last year. But that decision will help us for next year.