No Vote Councillors
Who Said No To Progress?
By Rod Lyon
May 16 2012
Rod's Look at the no vote councillors, their wards and their majoritys at the last election
Following the disappointing vote at the Full Council on Tuesday 15th May,
I have looked at the details of the ‘No’ vote Councillors, giving the wards which they represent, their political allegiance and the size of their majority at the last election.
Keep these details for next May
| Councillor | Ward | Party | Majority |
| Biggs | Camborne West | Con | 181 |
| Biscoe | Truro Moresk | Ind | 356 |
| Brewer | Wadebridge East | Ind | 145 |
| Chappel | Falmouth Penwerris | Ind | 56 |
| Curnow | St Stephen | Ind | 460 |
| Dolphin | Flexbury & Poughill | Lib Dem | 12 |
| Duffin | Mount Hawke & Portreath | Lib Dem | 101 |
| Dyer | Chacewater & Kenwyn | Con | 518 |
| Eddowes | Redruth Central | Con | 8 |
| Egerton | Probus | Ind | 63 |
| Ellis | Menheniot | Con | 313 |
| Evans | Falmouth Gyllingvase | Con | 279 |
| Ferguson | Truro Trehaverne | Con | 6 |
| Fitter | Colan & Mawgan | Con | 250 |
| Gisbourne | St Endellion | Con | 210 |
| Goodenough | Camelford | Con | 119 |
| Greenslade | St Dennis | Ind | 545 |
| Hannaford | Looe West & Lansallos | Lib Dem | 42 |
| Harding | Newlyn & Mousehole | Con | 598 |
| Haycock | Helston Central | Ind | 272 |
| Heywood | Newquay Treviglas | Ind | 28 |
| Holley | Saltash Pill | Ind | 198 |
| Hughes | Tywardreath | Lib Dem | 323 |
| Kerridge | Bodmin West | Lib Dem | 333 |
| Lambshead | Newquay Tretherras | Con | 340 |
| Lugg | St Teath | Ind | 445 |
| Lyne | St Keverne & Meneage | Ind | 16 |
| Maddern | St Buryan | Con | 260 |
| Mann | Wadebridge West | Con | 439 |
| Mutton | Mevagissey | Con | 151 |
| Nicholas | Marazion | Con | 137 |
| Nolan | Truro Boscawen | Lib Dem | 423 |
| Oxenham | St Austell Bay | Lib Dem | 15 |
| Parsons D | Bude North & Stratton | Lib Dem | 563 |
| Parsons P | Altarnun | Con | 80 |
| Pearce | Bude South | Lib Dem | 376 |
| Penhaligon | Lelant & Carbis Bay | Con | 318 |
| Polmounter | Mount Charles | Lib Dem | 18 |
| Powell | Liskeard North | Con | 100 |
| Pugh | Pelynt | Con | 173 |
| Rogerson | Bodmin Central | Lib Dem | 232 |
| Rowe | Penwithick | Lib Dem | 78 |
| Rushworth | Padstow | Con | 273 |
| Saunby | Falmouth Trescobeas | Ind | 269 |
| Schofield | Liskeard Central | Lib Dem | 131 |
| Shakerly | Lostwithiel | Con | 121 |
| Sheppard | Carn Brea North | Con | 118 |
| Stewart | St Austell Gover | Con | 53 |
| Symons | St Ives South | Con | 200 |
| Tanner | St Ives North | Con | 24 |
| Teverson | St Mewan | Lib Dem | 38 |
| Tucker | Poundstock | Con | 45 |
| Turner | St Ives | Lib Dem | 36 |
| Watson | St Cleer | Lib Dem | 189 |
| Williams M | Troon & Beacon | Con | 41 |
Abstentions
Burden, Currie, Double, Harvey, Ridgers, Robertson and Toms (Although these are members of the Cabinet, they could vote, but chose not to.)
Pat Harvey could vote I suppose as she is Lady Chairman.
Baily (Ludgvan) although stating that she was a Pirates’ season ticket holder, was allowed to speak and vote, chose not to speak but did vote in favour.
Lewarne (Penzance East) was there for part of the debate, but had to leave the chamber before the vote.
No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Unofficial Pirates (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 15:19
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Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: godolphinpirate (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 15:27
Is Fiona Ferguson supposed to be on this excellent list as well?
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Darkside (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 15:33
from the main list Ferguson voted against
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Barv Du (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 16:24
Sorry Ladies and Gents - In my rush I read two lines together. Ferguson should be on there in place of Evans for Truro Trehaverne. What I must have done is to read 'Evans' off the list, and then slipped a line and put in FF's details.
I will have to look up Evans' details and report or get Geoff to replace this list with a fresh one.
I have also been advised on a couple of other points. I was under the impression as stated that the Cabinet members could not vote. This is not the case, they did not want to.
I also said that Irene Baily of Ludgvan did not speak and did not vote. She was in fact allowed to speak and vote, chose not to speak, but did vote 'for'.
I will have to look up Evans' details and report or get Geoff to replace this list with a fresh one.
I have also been advised on a couple of other points. I was under the impression as stated that the Cabinet members could not vote. This is not the case, they did not want to.
I also said that Irene Baily of Ludgvan did not speak and did not vote. She was in fact allowed to speak and vote, chose not to speak, but did vote 'for'.
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Black Pig (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 16:31
Seven con's there with small double figure majoritys could easily be removed put an INDEPENDENT in to those and it would more than likely change the result ,and remember it si a good financial crack to take a seat .
Harding (Former pirates player (well sort of)will take a lot of shifting with close on 600 maj )
Harding (Former pirates player (well sort of)will take a lot of shifting with close on 600 maj )
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Brian T (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 16:36
How many are Cornish ?
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: 1908 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 17:26
What's that got to do with it,Brian T?
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: BertSolomon (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 18:53
Quote:Barv Du
I have also been advised on a couple of other points. I was under the impression as stated that the Cabinet members could not vote. This is not the case, they did not want to.
If anyone is interested, this blog post does a good job of explaining this:
http://www.cllrandrewwallis.co.uk/
Cliff notes, 6 abstained, 2 voted for, 1 voted against.
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Spike's Miaow (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 18:56
Evans is Mayor of Falmouth - just been sworn in for the tenth (and last?) time. He represents me in Falmouth, Gyllyngvase. No email address, snail mail on its way!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:05:16:18:58:35 by Spike's Miaow.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:05:16:18:58:35 by Spike's Miaow.
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: teepee (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 19:56
I cant understand why the members of the County Cabinet cannot vote. Surely members of the Cabinet at Westminster vote when the Division Bell rings.
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: insiderpirate (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 22:25
Councillor Roger Harding (Chairman of the Community Network Town and Parish Forum) said, “As Councillors we are committed to listening an responding to what local people have to say. As such it is critical that we continue to talk to our colleagues in the towns and parishes to ensure that we all have the opportunity to
discuss local issues that are important to our communities”
You did have a majority of 598 we wonder what you get next time
discuss local issues that are important to our communities”
You did have a majority of 598 we wonder what you get next time
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: insiderpirate (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2012 22:38
[www.cornwall-online.co.uk]
Councillor Harding the local one denies all a place to watch sport and entertainment.
Well when one has a pad like this one can afford to travel lol
In touch with locals my pasty out of touch with reality more like
Councillor Harding the local one denies all a place to watch sport and entertainment.
Well when one has a pad like this one can afford to travel lol
In touch with locals my pasty out of touch with reality more like
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: BertSolomon (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2012 02:47
Quote:teepee
I cant understand why the members of the County Cabinet cannot vote. Surely members of the Cabinet at Westminster vote when the Division Bell rings.
As per my post above, they were told that (in this instance) they could - 3 did! Read Cllr. Wallace's blog!
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Brian T (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2012 08:19
1908 for the simple reason, how many of the councillors come from other parts of England who come down for a easy life and do not want thing's to change. We also know a lot of Cornish do not like change. It would be nice to know how many Cornish voted for the S4C, and how many not Cornish voted for.
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Al Kernow (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2012 15:29
And Ferguson only scraped into power with a majority of 6 - not exactly a mandate.
Easy to unseat next time round!!
Quite a few more No Votes are very vulnerable. Majorities below:-
6 Ferguson
8 Eddowes
12 Dolphin
15 Oxenham
16 Lyne
18 Polmounter
24 Tanner
28 Heywood
36 Turner
38 Teverson
41 Williams M
42 Hannaford
45 Tucker
Easy to unseat next time round!!
Quite a few more No Votes are very vulnerable. Majorities below:-
6 Ferguson
8 Eddowes
12 Dolphin
15 Oxenham
16 Lyne
18 Polmounter
24 Tanner
28 Heywood
36 Turner
38 Teverson
41 Williams M
42 Hannaford
45 Tucker
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: kernewek (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2012 15:38
So Teverson managed to find his way to vote,shocking attendance record...
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: 1spy (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2012 18:57
Lord Teverson may have a poor attendance record but still picks up £12,000 plus expenses a year funded by Cornish Taxpayers.Nice little earner!!
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: w0ll (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2012 20:11
Sure it was him and not a puppet?
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: kernewek (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2012 09:10
Ah but the daily attendance allowance at the House of Lords is far better..check his attendance there...
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: Jan Knuckey (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2012 19:13
Here's a breakdown of how the parties voted. The end column shows the percentage of each party that voted FOR the stadium:
[www.trelawnysarmy.org.uk]
I am NOT trying to make a party-political point but, based on this information and the importance of getting a stadium, I know which party I'll be voting for next May.
[www.trelawnysarmy.org.uk]
I am NOT trying to make a party-political point but, based on this information and the importance of getting a stadium, I know which party I'll be voting for next May.
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: cornishbob (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2012 20:23
Thanks Jan, it goes to show that the voting was political all along, as we knew it would be. There was very little if any thought given to the actual topic and its consequence to the economy of Cornwall. The statement early on that to vote for the Stadium would be political suicide seems to have had effect and made cowards of just about all of the Conservative/Lib-Dem councillors. I know which way I shall be voting at the next local elections, and it ain't either of the two mentioned.
Re: No Vote Councillors
Posted by: 1spy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2012 22:30
Unfortunately as far as the Conservative Party is concerned it was not about the Stadium for Cornwall. It was about the power struggle for Leadership of the party in Cornwall. Alec Robertson was "FOR" and Fiona Ferguson was "AGAINST" the Stadium project and she won with a big majority.
After next May elections Fiona could be the leader running Cornwall or sooner do not forget she is meeting with Pickles next week to try a delay the Langarth Developement. No Langarth no land to build the Stadium on.Perhaps she has taken over from Roberson already behind the scenes!We shall know on the 21st of June when Pickles makes the decision on supporting housing and jobs or returning Cornwall back to the dark times.
After next May elections Fiona could be the leader running Cornwall or sooner do not forget she is meeting with Pickles next week to try a delay the Langarth Developement. No Langarth no land to build the Stadium on.Perhaps she has taken over from Roberson already behind the scenes!We shall know on the 21st of June when Pickles makes the decision on supporting housing and jobs or returning Cornwall back to the dark times.
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