Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective


By Boris Mellor
October 4 2010

Watching Arsenal play Chelsea is as predictable as watching Tweety Pie cartoons,when the music starts you know that however hard the cat tries the pesky Canary wins, its in the script. However, Wenger and his team are like innocent youngsters watching the cartoon cat for the first time, certain that logic determines that the cat, or in Arsenal's case, the allegedly more skilful team, will win.

Yet in spite of all the pin-point passing and having more possession it’s the opposition that wins. Wenger could leave his post match comments on a permanent loop as he bemoans the failure to take chances is rued yet again. It’s true that Arsenal aren’t bullied out of these games, Chelsea don’t have to bully Arsenal. Chelsea watch Arsenal miss chance after chance knowing that the glass chinned defence of the Gunners will eventually crack. They rope the dope, and it works every time.

Even with Fabregas and RvP playing, Arsenal’s firepower finds it hard to break down Chelsea’s defence. Without them it is an even more daunting task, once again the team is exposed as lacking in the striker department when playing quality opposition.

Wenger says that Chelsea will drop points, very true, the only problem is that when Chelsea last dropped points so did Arsenal, and even worse,  at home.

 Perspective

Of course it’s too early to say that this match will settle the league, but Wenger said before the game it would tell us something about the strength of his team. However, a comparison of Arsenal’s record over the last three games with the other three CL challengers might tell us a little more. The Gunners have 1 point out of nine, Manchester United have 5 out of 9, Chelsea have 6 out of 9, and Spurs 6 out of 9.

In the same period Chelsea conceded 1 goal, Spurs 3 goals, Manchester United 4, and Arsenal 6. True, it’s only a snapshot, and it’s a snapshot of a time when all teams in the CL dropped points. Unfortunately Arsenal dropped far points more than the rest.

Wenger talks about the possibility of benefitting when his rivals drop points, the only team to have benefited, so far, is Manchester City.

Of course if Arsenal play like they did at Stamford Bridge against lesser teams than Chelsea then they will win games, but that poses the question what is a lesser team? After all even Man U struggle against the Sunderlands, and Birminghams these days. If you can’t beat any of the super league of Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd then you must consistently beat those below you.

With international breaks still to come, and away games after CL fixtures beating “lesser teams” may not prove to be as simple as saying it.

Its early days, but my feeling is that this squad will struggle to stay in the top four unless it is strengthened in January with at least a 25 goal a year striker, and a top class keeper. The one plus about the match against Chelsea is that Wilshere proved to be a great talent against the toughest opposition.

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Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Arsenal Times (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 11:21

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Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: carlos puyol's barnet (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 12:16

At last somebody else agrees that top 4 might not be so easy this year - as for WENGER strengthening - Are there more total unknowns in France that he can snap up in the Jan window?

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Bergmars (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 12:36

The most pressing thing is to get Cesc fit,without him we look a lesser team.Its frightening to think he will in all probability be gone by this time next year.
Said in another post box to box we look world beaters but then we struggle to score when chances are thin on the ground,and we all know we will concede.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 14:14

it was Cescs goal scoring that was missed most

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Lewis_198four (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 15:18

Chelsea play like Boltonburn when they are against us.

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Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 15:54

But with skilled players

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 17:12

Strikers a problem too, they couldnt finish the chances they had

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: SaltnPeppah (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 18:04

Of course, we'll struggle to stay in the top four. ManCity, ManUtd and Chelsea will almost certainly take the top 3 spots. That leaves Arsenal battling for fourth spot with an inconsistent but dangerous Spurs.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 18:12

The midfield wasn't anything great, at least I didn't see them anything great except some age old mid field mazing and lost the ball in Chelsea 20 yards, Ramires and Essien was doing just enough by tackling at the right time and giving the ball to Chelsea highline. Without Anelka 1 to 1 miss against Fabianski and Cole or Ramires fraction offside the scoreline would've been far from decent 2-0.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Bergmars (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 19:43

But we had good chances to score ourselves.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2010 20:37

it's good to be back after such a busy time which hasn't ended though!!!

when i saw the line up i thought we would loose by 4 goals...wenger should face it...even if you beat a dead horse, it's dead and can't do anything...

wenger really amazes me... even if we scored from the chances we created could we have with stood a chelsea onslaught.

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Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Bergmars (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2010 06:22

He can hardly say we cannot score and defend like drains can he,we can roll over the likes of Braga,but when we face teams who can stand up to us we crumble.

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2010 14:07

Quote:
Bergmars
But we had good chances to score ourselves.

Sure, every game, we had good chances to score.
The question is:
SInce the last 2 seasons, why can't we score?

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: FAB #4 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2010 12:08

Why on earth is everyone talking of Arsene should get a top class goalkeeper, top class striker, blah blah? Who the hell are these top classes and where on these damned hole are they? Do you have any idea what it will take to get Iker from Real?

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2010 13:17

30+ mil will get a quality striker.
30+ mil will get a quality goalie.

And why is out total wage bill is only 22-mil behind CITEH?

WHat sort of rubbish we are having in the team with a wage bill that is only 22-mil less than CITEH....with even Adebayor on 170,000 pw and Yaya on 220,000 pw?

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How can our wage bill be only £22million lower that City’s when we have no big earners?
So it’s official, our wage bill is only £22mil lower that Man City’s, how can that be? They are a team of big name stars, Ade for instance went there on £180k a week and YaYa on £200k a week, almost their whole squad was bought, they have too many players and we have kids and a wage structure. So how on earth can we only be that much short of what they pay???

Now I’d like the know-alls with the figures to tell me how that’s possible. Someone asked what the £55mil in other expenses were, I think it was a way around paying people like me a dividend, it’s why Gazidas and Wenger are happy to win @#$%& all, if I’m wrong, perhaps Arsenal can enlighten us today.

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Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2010 18:09

This wage bill question long time ago I raised and the answer I get from probably Eduardo is that's our total wage bill and not just the players wage bill..I find the answer is reasonable, see if you look at Arsenal's setup that's probably the biggest in the world..the club, academy, training facilities, stadium they are unparallel and Chel$ki, Citeh or even Manur or probably not even Barcelona isn't close to us in terms of head counts required to run the show..so if you add up

1) Footballers wage bill + non footballers wage bill, then probably 2nd component will be the one of the highest in the world for Arsenal.
That justifies the high wage bill for Arsenal..

Re: Chelsea Rope Arsenal Dopes Yet Again: Perspective
Posted by: BIGSNOOP (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2010 15:46

Quote:
Merlion96
30+ mil will get a quality striker.
30+ mil will get a quality goalie.

And why is out total wage bill is only 22-mil behind CITEH?

WHat sort of rubbish we are having in the team with a wage bill that is only 22-mil less than CITEH....with even Adebayor on 170,000 pw and Yaya on 220,000 pw?

********************************************************
How can our wage bill be only £22million lower that City’s when we have no big earners?
So it’s official, our wage bill is only £22mil lower that Man City’s, how can that be? They are a team of big name stars, Ade for instance went there on £180k a week and YaYa on £200k a week, almost their whole squad was bought, they have too many players and we have kids and a wage structure. So how on earth can we only be that much short of what they pay???

Now I’d like the know-alls with the figures to tell me how that’s possible. Someone asked what the £55mil in other expenses were, I think it was a way around paying people like me a dividend, it’s why Gazidas and Wenger are happy to win @#$%& all, if I’m wrong, perhaps Arsenal can enlighten us today.

[le-grove.co.uk]

The argument that why our wage bill is only £22million less than Man City despite Man City doing aboslutely F All in a tread which has "Prespective" in its title ....Priceless(Sm160)

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