22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
By Matt Sadler
December 16 2018
Well that was brutal. We got what we deserved. We're bad enough defensively with an actual defence, let alone a bodged together one. Awful, awful performance.
Ratings:
Leno - 5. Did make some saves. Don't think he could've done much more with the first two goals but he's had a shocker on their third.
Lichtsteiner - 5. Looked a bit better when he switched to right back, but didn't impress me.
Koscielny - 3. Culpable for all three Southampton goals, all pretty basic errors as well. Way too soon for him to be playing at this level after a big layoff.
Xhaka - 5. Amazingly not our worst defender today.
Bellerin - 5. Meh.
Torreira - 6. Not as impressive as he has been.
Guendouzi - 5. Mixed bag.
Monreal - 6. Good assist. That Valery looks good.
Mkhitaryan - 6. Scored twice.
Aubameyang - 5. Should have scored a couple.
Iwobi - 4. Played a part in Mkhi's first, otherwise rubbish.
Subs:
Lacazette - 6. We looked better going forward when he came on.
Ozil - 5. Not impressed.
Maitland-Niles - N/A. Not on long.
22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: Arsenal Times (IP Logged)
Date: 16/12/2018 17:47
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Re: 22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: CazOnARola (IP Logged)
Date: 17/12/2018 03:20
This game should be a lesson to guendouzi. One of his worst games since he has come in. I can understand why emery tried xhaka, cause we did not have someone to bring the ball out from the back. Wenger would have played monreal who s better at it, but I'm not sure if emery knows that. Monreal also is amazingly good at judging the flight of the ball, kep batshuayi in his pocket as an emergency CB.
He should have gone with monreal and kos at CB and played Kolasinac in a back 4 and gone for it to score goals,along xhaka and Torreira to sit more
He should have gone with monreal and kos at CB and played Kolasinac in a back 4 and gone for it to score goals,along xhaka and Torreira to sit more
Re: 22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: Gunnersingh1 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/12/2018 11:58
Exactly Caz. We should have played an attacking team and gone for it.
I can't believe how defensive Emery is some times.
If Laca; Ramsey and Ozil all started that game I doubt we'd have lost that game.
How Iwobi and Mkhitryan are starting is beyond me.
I can't believe how defensive Emery is some times.
If Laca; Ramsey and Ozil all started that game I doubt we'd have lost that game.
How Iwobi and Mkhitryan are starting is beyond me.
Re: 22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: mapleleafgooner (IP Logged)
Date: 17/12/2018 13:36
I am not going to be too critical of Emery as this is the first defeat in like 4 months. Quite an achievement for any manager and especially for one who is new to the club and inherited a large part of the current team. He has done very well. One defeat isn't going to tarnish his work so far. Plus he appears to be a fast learner and a pragmatic coach who is not held back by some footballing ideals he needs to fulfill.
Re: 22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: hahanice (IP Logged)
Date: 17/12/2018 15:28
I mentioned in the match the that I thought ozil was a waste, and that taking off q player who at least wants to try and beat his man and drive forward for a player who wants to hide was crazy. I think we give him a pass because he's ozil. Like how name alone is worth 2 assists.
This is a perfect example.
Iwobi didn't play great but wasn't shocking, and had a huge part in our first goal. Gets a 4.
Ozil didn't play great but I guess you could say wasn't shocking, but pretty much caused their winner. Gets a 5.
Wish people wouldn't be so biased
This is a perfect example.
Iwobi didn't play great but wasn't shocking, and had a huge part in our first goal. Gets a 4.
Ozil didn't play great but I guess you could say wasn't shocking, but pretty much caused their winner. Gets a 5.
Wish people wouldn't be so biased
Re: 22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: MattySadler (IP Logged)
Date: 17/12/2018 15:57
Quote:hahanice
I mentioned in the match the that I thought ozil was a waste, and that taking off q player who at least wants to try and beat his man and drive forward for a player who wants to hide was crazy. I think we give him a pass because he's ozil. Like how name alone is worth 2 assists.
This is a perfect example.
Iwobi didn't play great but wasn't shocking, and had a huge part in our first goal. Gets a 4.
Ozil didn't play great but I guess you could say wasn't shocking, but pretty much caused their winner. Gets a 5.
Wish people wouldn't be so biased
I thought Iwobi had a really bad day at the office personally. The pass to Monreal for Mkhi's goal was literally the only positive I found in his performance.
Despite this, however, if it'd been me I'd have had Guendouzi off for Ozil, not Iwobi.
I've seen people on Twitter trying to defend Ozil, saying despite only being on the pitch for 20 minutes he created however many chances. I can only recall seeing him running a couple of times. Really bothers me he is on so much money.
Re: 22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/12/2018 23:55
If my auntie has balls …
We can said that if Aubameyang had taken one of those 3 clear scoring chances …
For the life of me, I can only see one redeeming feature why Iwobi is a starter is just his work rate is better than Ozil and Ramsey.
Other that than, Iwobi is just a waste of space.
"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” Saint Thomas Aquinas
We can said that if Aubameyang had taken one of those 3 clear scoring chances …
For the life of me, I can only see one redeeming feature why Iwobi is a starter is just his work rate is better than Ozil and Ramsey.
Other that than, Iwobi is just a waste of space.
"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” Saint Thomas Aquinas
Re: 22 And Out - Player ratings v Saints
Posted by: litmus (IP Logged)
Date: 18/12/2018 17:16
Iwobi has very poor decision making. You can see when he gets the ball in advanced positions, he panics. You can see his "panicking" clearly, and always unsure of what to do next. The thing is decision making is mostly innate, some people are excellent at it, their brain moves in super speed making time seemingly slow down, like that movie "Wanted" with James McAvoy amd Angelina Jolie when everything around them seemingly becomes slow motion under pressure.
People like Henry and Bergkamp weren't Ronaldinho or Messi-like skilful, but their game were super enhanced by their excellent decision making, vision and technique. that's why they get so many assists besides goals. And more importantly, that's why we were so good as a team back then.
Can you teach Iwobi this decision making? I am not sure.
Anyway, Emery got it all wrong with the personnel and system on Sunday. He must have had his reasons, but he didn't get it right. Can't totally blame him though, the many injuries forced him into that particular selection and tactic.
People like Henry and Bergkamp weren't Ronaldinho or Messi-like skilful, but their game were super enhanced by their excellent decision making, vision and technique. that's why they get so many assists besides goals. And more importantly, that's why we were so good as a team back then.
Can you teach Iwobi this decision making? I am not sure.
Anyway, Emery got it all wrong with the personnel and system on Sunday. He must have had his reasons, but he didn't get it right. Can't totally blame him though, the many injuries forced him into that particular selection and tactic.
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