Great Expectations or Much Ado About Nothing? Xhaka MotM
By Merlion
October 24 2022
Arsenal missed a chance to create a breathing space between themselves and the following pack. If Arsenal fans are feeling a draw is a terrible result I wonder how Chelsea, Man U, Spurs or Liverpool fans feel this morning? Is it the beginning of the end leading to the November slump? Or just an October Blip and ever onwards? Also keep in mind that Arsenal have lost 3 out of last 5 games at St Marys, and did Wenger lose his head here when he as good as sacked an errant keeper after a poor performance by the team?
With this is mind can we agree with regular AT contributorMerlion that this is a turning point of some importance, or just a stutter in the best start to a season since 1903?
Enough from me. The Editor
Merlion’s view follows
Thanks to all Football Gods that there are only two league games against Chavs and Wolves in November. And then we are saved by the WC2022 break to allow time to recuperate and to work out all the shortcomings, correct them and rethink tactical formations during this 6-weeks “winter break” before the League restarts on 26 December.
Against Saints, the shortcomings of our players were exposed and as Mikel Arteta said, it is a good lesson learned which should see him correcting all those vulnerabilities on the training pitch for this week’s game against Nottingham Forest at home, who just beat Liverpool FC No disrespect to Forest, if we can’t beat them at home, why are we talking about being title contenders (Are we? Editor)?
Player Ratings
Ramsdale 6 – My worry is again his poor performance in 1-on-1 situations and poor reaction to go down quicker against those type of low-shot. Contrast that to the quick reaction of Turner against PSV hard low shot through a thicket of legs. The main worry is his tendency to dwell on the ball with Saints players charging into the box and seemed indecisive where to pass the ball. It is matter of time that Ramsdale will be punished for this kind of dwelling and misjudged the speed of the attacker (again).
Tomiyasu 5 – After pocketing Salah and Gakpo, he was having a nightmare at left flank, allowing Saints free run there and often caught out of position. Plus, there is disconnect amongst Tomi, Martinelli and Xhaka at the left flank, leaving Xhaka carrying the can alone to initiate attacks down left flank. It looked like against physical imposing team with a quick winger to press us immediately, all our left-side attacks broke down at left flank.
Gabriel 7 – He bailed out Saliba on a few occasions and was the calming influence on Saliba who was jittery and seemed short of confidence. A pillar in defence and we should not blame him for the goal when the entire midfield and Tomi went missing with Saints players slaloming through the middle like a hot knife through butter.
Saliba 5 – minus one point for that backward pass that Gabriel bailed him out. His inexperience is showing and he lost his imperious calmness when under pressure in all previous league games. Apparently, mental fatigue from too many intense games is catching up with him. He needed to be taken out of the firing line and needed downtime to recuperate.
Ben White 7 – One extra point for the assist. He played his heart out but his attacking plays are limited and he has no help to offer a Saka under pressure. Of course, Odegaard is mainly at fault for his disappearing act whenever Saka and White needed his support to create passing channels.
Odegaard 5#1 #2– What a woeful performance as our creative playmaker where the game passes him by without him demanding and seeing much of the ball as Xhaka’s. He disappeared utterly (including a disallowed goal?) and contented with playing safe backward passes instead of taking the game by the scruff of the neck and drive Arsenal forward with relentless attack. Suddenly, he did not offer any passing option for Saka, who was immediately surrounded by three Saints players, whenever he received the ball. Why we lost this game is simply:
#1 – Saka was neutralized as an attacking threat without Odegaard offering another right-side attacking threat, plus not bringing White more into an attacking position with his bye-line running.
#2 – Odegaard has no leadership and organizational ability as a Captain and just disappeared from the game. Captain Xhaka is the main driving force and the Leader on the pitch. He played virtually the entire game passing backwards all the time as his first instinctive move. That is not a no. 10 taking control of the game as a leader to drive the team forward.
Xhaka 8 – MOTM. One extra point for that goal. Without his experience, organizational ability and leadership to hold this bunch of bewildered players together, we will have lost this game. He is unbelievable as our main creative playmaker, dictate the plays, but cannot do more when the rest of his teammates losing virtually all 50:50 balls and unable to pass the ball, or string together 2 or 3 passes together, while under pressured.
Partey 5 – When he is bad, he is unbelievable bad. He was physically outplayed, passed badly and simply not in the game in the 2nd half. The midfield was missing with Saints clearly domineering in 2nd half attacking and winning virtually all 50:50 balls and 2nd balls at will. No doubt, we were playing with 10 men with Odegaard hiding.
Martinelli 5 – His regular huff and puff performance, easily shunted safely to the bye-lines with little goal threat. And there is no team-play and inter-passing amongst Tomi, Martinelli, Xhaka and Jesus at left flank, with each player more or less functioning as a silo, easily defended no scoring threat throughout the 2nd half. Time to rest him a she seemed physically and mentally fatigue and just lacked that early season “oomph” to terrorize Saints’ defence.
Jesus 5 – He was simply outmuscled and outfought by that quick and gigantic Saints CB. Now you understand why Pep sold this inconsistent and misfiring striker to Arsenal to make room for Haaland. He will not make it into Brazil WC2022 squad if he continues to squander chances upon chances for the next 4 or 5 games he should be playing. Apparently, he is not that clinical striker even at Man City (He now has 100 goals in 250 Premiership games. Ed).
Saka 6 – One extra point for that backheel to White. This game showed he got much to learn and his football intelligence is not at that elite level of great players. Great players like Pele and Maradona have that peripheral vision and tactical awareness that glimpse quickly on the evolving tactical situation on the pitch and instinctive selected the correct pass or the technical skills to beat 3-man press to dribble or pass the ball. He was poor in his decision-making, attempting to dribble pass a 3-man press all the time, and just not smart enough to beat the press and pass the ball more. Plus, it is no help that a missing Odegaard is not there to offer passing option, a decoy to draw off defenders, and to take charge as no. 10 to see more of the ball and create forward plays. He must improve in these areas
Substitutions:
Mikel Arteta did not learn from his OT defeat with questionable substitutions in Vieira on, and taking White off, albeit I concur that Nketiah and Tierney immediately transformed our attacking impetus. White offered more of an attacking threat down the right flank rather than Tomi. Defensively, Tomi was having an off-day with Saints players running passed him.
Nketiah 6 – In hindsight, he should have replaced Jesus at start of 2nd half. Jesus did not relish physical battle with a giant CB, but Nketiah did, and thrived on all those physical battles, taking and giving as much as he got. Arteta should start him against Nottingham Forest, giving Jesus a breather for the Chelski battle, as we need a physical player like Nketiah to attack those physical Nottingham Forest players.
Tierney 6 – A breath of fresh air down the left flank with a visible attacking threat down there in the few minutes he played than Tomi there. In hindsight, Tierney is the correct player to start against Saints instead of Tomi, who was having an off-day, maybe due to fatigue?
Vieira 0 – He was woeful and not ready to play against a physical team like Saints. He was disposed off in the first 30:50 ball and continued being robbed of the ball so lightweight he was. Arteta made an appalling mistake (like that OT daft 3 substitutes) where even Partey was losing the physical battle in midfield, and he threw in a raw youngster who was all at sea and just not in the game. Again, it is a 10-man Arsenal team desperately trying to find the winner.
Mikel Arteta 5 – Woeful and simply did not have the tactical nous to change the game in the 2nd half, persisting with the “same old same old” possession-based slow-passing football without any forward impetus to attack a compact Saints Low Block that read his tactics like a book to close off all passing channels and identified Saka as the main attacking threat and just use a 3-man block to instantly press him whenever he receives the ball in their half.
He was not ruthless enough to take off Jesus and Odegaard at start of 2nd half. Nketiah should replace Martinelli immediately with Nketiah as the front man to occupy Saints CB who was man marking Jesus. Lokonga should come in to replace Odegaard to help out Partey to battle it out in midfield. We were losing the midfield battle after the 25th minute in the 1st half.
Lesson learned and the test for Mikel Arteta is how to bounce back.
All title contenders will have a setback. But the test is how a team will bounce back from a setback and goes on an unbeaten run of 10 to 12 games, stringing at least 6 to 8 consecutive wins.
Arteta must instill more fight in his team against physical teams like Saints.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022:10:27:11:24:21 by Padre Pio.
We have been poor last 2 or 3 games.
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
If we donโt buy in 2 or 3 in the Jan window, we will struggle in the 2nd half of the season.
Our glorious start to the season was a revelation that no one and i repeat, no one, for-told.
I reckon a fresh Arsenal was going to smash Saints this past weekend, but if MA keeps using only part of his squad, in an effort to maintain a high standard on field, our squads depth will bring a down-turn in our momentum.
Again I point out the average squad age is 24yrs and no club maintains a seasons momentum with that age demographic. You donโt need to know anything about football, to appreciate this fact.
Since the end of WW1, 1919, when the FA restarted its 4 tier football league, with Arsenal fc in the 1st div, thereโs only ever been one club to have never been relegated from Div 1/ EPL.
Arsenal fc
Letโs keep making history
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
you rest any of our first team you severely weaken the team automatically to a poor team.
They canโt even play the way we want to play because they aren't good enough.
Example,
rest a forward for Nketiah and where poor.
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
Quote:Boston Gooner
Truth is,
you rest any of our first team you severely weaken the team automatically to a poor team.
They canโt even play the way we want to play because they aren't good enough.
Example,
rest a forward for Nketiah and where poor.
Iโm hearing your point Boston, but we havenโt even tried to rotate, this season.
Itโs been the same stating XI the whole season, pretty much and the only time we have rotated the squad, it was because of injury issues, rather than pure rotation.
MA has just said, โ I canโt change the whole XI every other game, but thatโs not what Iโm suggesting either.
There has to be a situation where subs are making an impact off the bench, but the subs arenโt getting enough game-time, to make the impact required.
And in at least 2 EL games, when the subs have made that difference, itโs been the EPL starters who have done it.
Weโve played about 13 or 14 games so far this season and Jesus has played a part in 12 or 13 of those, which canโt continue.
Since the end of WW1, 1919, when the FA restarted its 4 tier football league, with Arsenal fc in the 1st div, thereโs only ever been one club to have never been relegated from Div 1/ EPL.
Arsenal fc
Letโs keep making history
Since the end of WW1, 1919, when the FA restarted its 4 tier football league, with Arsenal fc in the 1st div, thereโs only ever been one club to have never been relegated from Div 1/ EPL.
Arsenal fc
Letโs keep making history
The players coming in are simply not good enough.
And if player can't manage 12 or 13 games we really are in a bad way.
They might as well not go to the World Cup then.
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
Quote:Boston Gooner
[/b]We rest 2 or more players, we lose games.
The players coming in are simply not good enough. [b]
And if player can't manage 12 or 13 games we really are in a bad way.
They might as well not go to the World Cup then.
Youโre probably right mate, but we havenโt done it this yet this season, so we canโt be 100% on your prediction.
12 or 13 games out of 14 or 15 played is being over-played, because by the end of the season Jesus will have to be involved in 50+ matches. Too many for a team with a 24yr age demographic.
Since the end of WW1, 1919, when the FA restarted its 4 tier football league, with Arsenal fc in the 1st div, thereโs only ever been one club to have never been relegated from Div 1/ EPL.
Arsenal fc
Letโs keep making history
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022:10:27:09:13:59 by weedz.
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
Quote:Padre Pio
He said top world class players play 70games a season
We ought to sign some then, quickly ๐๐๐
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
Yes the players are tired, but we are also more predictable without zinchenko.
Both zinchenko and white double as midfielders along side xhaka with only Gabriel and Saliba behind them against weaker teams.
Also the movement and inter change between xhaka, zinchenko and Martinelli in terms of who is LW, B2B , CM was absolutely a nightmare to mark for the poor teams.
Remember i said the the left side is so powerful that Saka will not get many opportunities as his job will be to hug the touch line to spread play while we attack from the left
Well zinchenko has been injured for a while, and surprise surprise we are attacking more using Ben white which gives Saka more opportunities to cut inside, but this also makes us more predictable.
When zinchenko returns, the teams won't know which wing have we decided to create more overloads.
Yes players are tired and we have nothing on the bench, but when it comes to cutting edge in the final third, like cancelo or several City players, zinchenko is absolutely next level against weaker teams and we missing him badly.
We can always use Tomi in matches like Liverpool, but we need zinchenko for the likes of Southampton, Leeds, PSV etc
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"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
He is so inconsistent. He can't handle high tempo games. We need to look for a better player.
Quote:Gunnersingh1
Partey cost us the game. He had ample chances to play easy through balls but bottled it. He even hold up his hands acknowledging that.
He is so inconsistent. He can't handle high tempo games. We need to look for a better player.
We need to look for better Players.
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
We are a long way from the top 3 spots and it will start showing by January.
We do however have the best togetherness but that alone isn't enough.
Quote:Padre Pio
He said top world class players play 70games a season
Jesus said he's ready to play 70 games.
And he's not even world class ๐๐๐
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
Quote:Merlion96
It's October Blip.
And the rest.
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
With this newfound confidence and a spring in their steps after Forest win, this team is ready for the Battle of Stamford Bridge.
But first, there is a little matter of beating FC Zurich to have a clear sky against Chelski.
"๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐. ๐๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ, ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ด."
