Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
By Total Tranmere
March 18 2010
Throughout the season we provide you with a platform to discuss each and every Rovers match whether it be the build-up to kick-off or post match analysis so here we bring you the Match Discussion Thread for Friday evening's Coca-Cola League One match at home to Hartlepool Utd as Tranmere look move further away from the relegation zone.......
Friday 19th March - Coca Cola League One
Tranmere R v Hartlepool Utd
Kick-Off 7.45pm at Prenton Park
For those fans who can't make some of the Rovers games this season, particularly the high number of costly and time consuming southern away games, we at Total Tranmere will be providing a Match Discussion Thread on the Site for every Rovers game.
The thread will allow you to discuss everything from the pre-match build up and starting line-up to the game it as it progresses and the post-match anaylsis.
Where possible, Total Tranmere staff will post up the starting line-up and substitutes on the thread as soon as it is made known at the game.
Tranmere of course host relegation rivals Hartlepool Utd in Coca-Cola League One on Friday evening in what is another vital game for Rovers, so if you're not going to the game why not join in the banter right here while the game is going on.
Maybe if you have a friend or family member texting you from the game you can post their views here for others to see as the game progresses.
You could also use this thread to discuss other interesting scores throughout the league as well as discussing this game afterwards if you have been along to the game.
What you discuss below is up to you but hopefully it can all be focused on one thread to make it easier for everyone to use.
Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: Total Tranmere (IP Logged)
Date: 18/03/2010 21:42
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Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: Matthew the rover (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 11:06
Definitely going for the win tonight to us, 2-1 I think, though looking at their shocking away form we could well win by more and do some good for our goal difference!
Personally, I'd change the team from the Bristol Rovers draw. Being controversial, I'd drop McLaren and McCready, drop Ash back to centre-back and bring Mahon and Edds into midfield.
Personally, I'd change the team from the Bristol Rovers draw. Being controversial, I'd drop McLaren and McCready, drop Ash back to centre-back and bring Mahon and Edds into midfield.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 13:00
I would do exactly the same Matt although McCready looked alright on Saturday to be fair.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: Matthew the rover (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 13:03
Yeah from the sounds of it he did well and it would be harsh to drop him, but I think we need to pick our best team and sadly he's only on the substitutes bench as far as I'm concerned.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: mini_andy (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 13:31
im going for a sneeky 2-1 win to us too 
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: Mikey (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 17:00
Nah keep McCready in. Clean sheet last week so as little disturbance as possible to the back five for me though obviously Cressa will start.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: Matthew the rover (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 19:17
No Ian Thomas-Moore. Big miss!
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: Ricci (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 22:21
That was an absolute disgrace, there are no excuses for that sort of performance. No urgency, no passion, no creativity, nothing at all. I am disgusted that we could put in a performance like that in such an important game.
As for Les, his substitutions were awful, shuker hasn't had a good game for about two years yet he comes on instead of Mahon, why? Gornell starting instead of Sordell, why Les? He hasn't got it. We just don't look like scoring at all, Bas isn't match fit, Curran is Curran, tries hard and thats it. Ultra defensive midfield with no creativity, no surprise we have scored one goal in 3 games.
With Brighton away, Norwich at home and then Swindon away in our next three games I am struggling to find hope of survival. It is likely that we will be in the bottom four after those games and that could be it. Of course the result was not ideal but what hurt me most tonight was the performance, which was the worst I have seen this season.
I am worried, very worried.
As for Les, his substitutions were awful, shuker hasn't had a good game for about two years yet he comes on instead of Mahon, why? Gornell starting instead of Sordell, why Les? He hasn't got it. We just don't look like scoring at all, Bas isn't match fit, Curran is Curran, tries hard and thats it. Ultra defensive midfield with no creativity, no surprise we have scored one goal in 3 games.
With Brighton away, Norwich at home and then Swindon away in our next three games I am struggling to find hope of survival. It is likely that we will be in the bottom four after those games and that could be it. Of course the result was not ideal but what hurt me most tonight was the performance, which was the worst I have seen this season.
I am worried, very worried.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: whinfrey (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 22:22
abysmal,gutless, pathetic, shameful. Tactically inept. Lucky to get a point against a team thats lost their last nine away games.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 22:41
Shuker changed the game when he came on although it couldn't have got much worse.
Savage = Hoof and its no coincidence that since he came back our performances, especially tonight and at home to Leeds have seen more hoof than ever before.
Not a criticism of Bas himself (who I agree still looks unfit but can panic defences at times) but all we seem to do when he plays is hoof it.
Tonight was a terrible performance and people can say that yes we can still pick up points against Wycombe, Exeter and Stockport but will we?
Already this season we have lost at home to struggling Oldham and Stockport and away at Exeter although a home win over Southampton counters those thoughts.
We could be back in the relegation zone tomorrow night which psychologically is not ideal ahead of a number of important games.
Savage = Hoof and its no coincidence that since he came back our performances, especially tonight and at home to Leeds have seen more hoof than ever before.
Not a criticism of Bas himself (who I agree still looks unfit but can panic defences at times) but all we seem to do when he plays is hoof it.
Tonight was a terrible performance and people can say that yes we can still pick up points against Wycombe, Exeter and Stockport but will we?
Already this season we have lost at home to struggling Oldham and Stockport and away at Exeter although a home win over Southampton counters those thoughts.
We could be back in the relegation zone tomorrow night which psychologically is not ideal ahead of a number of important games.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 23:04
just like and of season match nout to win or lose ! well done to all that put their hands in their pockets and wore a Daff and especially to the Cadets that turned out to collect
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: tranmerepete (IP Logged)
Date: 19/03/2010 23:30
I just don't know what to say really shocking and beyond worse game i seen even at sunday leauge level for a long time. Friday night FRIDAY NIGHT JOKE. Not stong enough like i said. So weak, clueless, shamefull, garbage,i cant say how i feel casuse the site will not let me.
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: mattyj (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2010 06:56
I had to wait till this morning to comment because i was so dissapointed with last night, it was depressing me.
I said it after the Leeds game that I didn't think we were good enough and last night proved we aren't. I don't really know where to start because the majority of the team were pathetic to say the least. I would like to single out Cresswell who for me had a good game but the rest forget about it.
Can somebody please explain to me why he picks Paul McLaren week in week out. He is absolutely useless and has actually cost us in the last 2 home games. First against leeds for the penalty and being caught in possession and then that miss last night. He is way out of his depth and i think it would be best if we just paid him off at the end of the season and let him go. He isn't the only one but at least most of the other dross will be out of contract at the end of the season.
Deadly Submarine is right about Savage, but what I can't understand is that it's not his strength and surely Parry knows that so why do it. The game last night was crying out for a bit of creativity so why did Mahon remain on the bench. The last few games when he has come on, he has created something and his passing is far superior to anyone else on the team.
The truth is that we are simply not good enough. We have players who aren't good enough and who don't care about the club, a physio as manager who is trying his best, a chairman who obviously doesn't give a **** and a depleting fanbase. I'm sorry top be so bleak, but it's hard to be positive after that last night. I think were going down and to be honest we deserve to.
I said it after the Leeds game that I didn't think we were good enough and last night proved we aren't. I don't really know where to start because the majority of the team were pathetic to say the least. I would like to single out Cresswell who for me had a good game but the rest forget about it.
Can somebody please explain to me why he picks Paul McLaren week in week out. He is absolutely useless and has actually cost us in the last 2 home games. First against leeds for the penalty and being caught in possession and then that miss last night. He is way out of his depth and i think it would be best if we just paid him off at the end of the season and let him go. He isn't the only one but at least most of the other dross will be out of contract at the end of the season.
Deadly Submarine is right about Savage, but what I can't understand is that it's not his strength and surely Parry knows that so why do it. The game last night was crying out for a bit of creativity so why did Mahon remain on the bench. The last few games when he has come on, he has created something and his passing is far superior to anyone else on the team.
The truth is that we are simply not good enough. We have players who aren't good enough and who don't care about the club, a physio as manager who is trying his best, a chairman who obviously doesn't give a **** and a depleting fanbase. I'm sorry top be so bleak, but it's hard to be positive after that last night. I think were going down and to be honest we deserve to.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2010 07:16
well Accy Stanley, Rochdale, c'terfield, Crewe, Port Vale, Mac'field, Nots county, Hereford, bradford, Morecome, Rotherham, Bury, Well some time ago I looked at the league below, and settled that if we go down we'll have some great fixtures again, less long journies, more visiting regularly, better atmosphere, will we lose many more fans ? only real down side I think is the loss of the Leeds Norwich and S'ton bringing cash paying customers................... oh and a real chance at chasing promotion next year, ok ok m just saying I don't think it's too bleak an option
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: jonrob (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2010 08:08
Shades of the past only we'll have South teams in Div1 and North in Div2
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: SWA (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2010 10:34
If we go down we are in serious danger of doing a Chester or a Wrexham.
Les must not be manager next season - he's our physio. The fact our physio is our manager symbolises what a pathetic season this has been.
Les has done well to pick up the pieces from Dumb and Dumber but he's not a manager and he isn't willing to make decisions - lack of substitutions, Curran playing every week, persisting with Broomes over McCready for so long etc.
If we stay up it will go down to the last game of the season, we don't have the ability to pull ourselves away with a string of wins.
Les must not be manager next season - he's our physio. The fact our physio is our manager symbolises what a pathetic season this has been.
Les has done well to pick up the pieces from Dumb and Dumber but he's not a manager and he isn't willing to make decisions - lack of substitutions, Curran playing every week, persisting with Broomes over McCready for so long etc.
If we stay up it will go down to the last game of the season, we don't have the ability to pull ourselves away with a string of wins.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2010 12:37
The reality is that if Les cannot pick our best team for each match situation from players he knows what chance of him making the right choices in the transfer marker. He has done a sound job considering his limitations and most of our problems stem from P.J insane decisions close season. Exacerbated by not finding a manager
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: Ricci (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2010 12:48
Totally agree with Mattyj, Mahon needs to be playing, Mclaren is a joke. This 433 needs to be ditched when we are playing the likes of Hartlepool at home, it should be 442 and we should be going at teams. Play 433 away, not at home.
The reason last night was so annoying was the apparent lack of effort, nobody playing for the shirt, no urgency. I just can't see us gettint the required wins, we may scrape a few nil nil's but that won't be enough. in my opinion we have to win one of Norwich or Brighton, and I can't see it all.
The reason last night was so annoying was the apparent lack of effort, nobody playing for the shirt, no urgency. I just can't see us gettint the required wins, we may scrape a few nil nil's but that won't be enough. in my opinion we have to win one of Norwich or Brighton, and I can't see it all.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Hartlepool Utd Match Discussion
Posted by: bigmart (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2010 13:52
before last nights game i thought we would win and we would just about be safe now i really cant see it.
We were truly awful the system we play is not getting the best out of a limited squad.There seemed no pride passion effort and most of all ability last nite a very worrying time at the moment as league 2 beckons.
We were truly awful the system we play is not getting the best out of a limited squad.There seemed no pride passion effort and most of all ability last nite a very worrying time at the moment as league 2 beckons.
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