Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
By Deadly Submarine
October 22 2010
Tranmere Rovers travel to fellow strugglers Walsall on Saturday afternoon in nPower League One, so for all the latest news and match updates, and all the pre, during and post-match discussion, don't forget to check out our Match Discussion thread............
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Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
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Date: 22/10/2010 11:08
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Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 09:19
On the Prediction League I've gone for 2-0 to Walsall but I'm hopeful of a better result than that today.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Matthew the rover (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 14:01
Just put half time draw/full time draw down as my bet, 7/2 are the odds. I think there's a good chance we'll get something from today and I think the squad will be beginning to get a lot more confident on a whole due to the amount of players coming back from injury
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: bigmart (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 14:12
lts hope so matt as lose this we ar up the creek and pj wont pay for a new paddle
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 15:37
gerrin 0 - 1 up c'mon Rovers gerin t them
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 16:28
Enochs in the second ! Enoch, ITM and Dale up front away from home !!! "never changes formation" someking the mick about "attacking formations" .......... may be a quiet night on here with nothing to winge about or critisise !
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 16:37
ITM thanks to Dale ! excellent
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Matthew the rover (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 16:44
It'll be very quiet @gony. This thread will have nowhere near as many comments as last weeks one
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: MikeH (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 16:54
just look what happens when mclaren doesn't darken the pitch
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Matthew the rover (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 16:54
4-1 WIN. I am nearly speechless! Cannot believe it! First time we've scored four or more away from home for nearly six years, since the 5-1 win over Wrexham on January 15th 2005. Absolutely stunning result. We've hammered them. This shows just what we can do with a fully fit squad...and we're not even fully fit yet. Give Les a break guys, now ITM and Labs are back, we could be a force - and that with Ash and Broomes to come (plus Mahon and McGurk)
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: MARK-TRFC (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 17:05
Wow! how i enjoyed listening live from my uni halls!
first comment on here in a while admist the negativety, but heres something for us to smile about.
Labadie and welsh were outstanding according merseyside, look what happens when mclaren doesnt play, hope les learns from this.
glad to see itm back and on the score sheet, hope he can push on now and add a few more.
well done to all the lads!
a great day, lets make it a great weekend with a good draw tomorrow!
first comment on here in a while admist the negativety, but heres something for us to smile about.
Labadie and welsh were outstanding according merseyside, look what happens when mclaren doesnt play, hope les learns from this.
glad to see itm back and on the score sheet, hope he can push on now and add a few more.
well done to all the lads!
a great day, lets make it a great weekend with a good draw tomorrow!
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: bigmart (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 17:26
an amazing result not one i saw coming and to score 4 goals away is incredible, lets hope we can build on it in the league now and beat mk dons next saturday.
Although we are still in the bottom 4 things certainly look better now, a week is a long time in football eh.
Although we are still in the bottom 4 things certainly look better now, a week is a long time in football eh.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Mikey (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 17:30
Hopefully the end of McLaren unless injuries hit us again.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: iagoapcen (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 17:45
just please please even though he's a nice bloke, good pro etc who does loads of community work for the club with kids, i don't doubt his character or good will but mclaren can't be in the team ahead of blanchard. amen
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: bigmart (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 17:50
i would agree that we cant go back to mclaren lets hope les thinks that as well.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 18:44
Well now Moore is back and hopefully Broomes at least maybe on the bench, (I thought he'd be on it this week possibly), the added experience in the match day squad, might permit Les to feel as if McClaren is not per requirements anymore.
I wanted McClaren to be a bit more talismanic this season and look deserving of selction, but I do feel now he is detrimental and needs to be sidelined.
I'm a bit bummed that Leyton Orient drew and Brentford won.
Though it looks like there's 7 league places for grabs next week, which won't happen of course, but it does improve Tranmeres chances of getting out of the bottom 4 if they beat Dons.
I was a little concerned seeing Walsall's form since that Devaney guy arrived on loan, as I thought it might make the match and the expectation of the result, (considering the Legaue cup win), a lot harder.
Great win and now Tranmere need to kick on from this.
I wanted McClaren to be a bit more talismanic this season and look deserving of selction, but I do feel now he is detrimental and needs to be sidelined.
I'm a bit bummed that Leyton Orient drew and Brentford won.
Though it looks like there's 7 league places for grabs next week, which won't happen of course, but it does improve Tranmeres chances of getting out of the bottom 4 if they beat Dons.
I was a little concerned seeing Walsall's form since that Devaney guy arrived on loan, as I thought it might make the match and the expectation of the result, (considering the Legaue cup win), a lot harder.
Great win and now Tranmere need to kick on from this.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: BELMONT (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 20:31
Great win
but as they say one swallow does not make a summer
(I know winter coming up)but let`s see if we can kick off from here with a win against MKD 
and climb out of the bottom four and up the table but we need the same effort in the next few league games and a settled
squad with Ash Taylor Marlon Broomes Adam McGurk added to
the squad in the coming weeks glad to see Joss Labadie and ITM back and Blanchard in for McLaren(not the player he was at this moment) but it is back to back league wins we need(around 33
on the trot
would do) but any way a good run would be a change might be good to rest Showunmi
on Tuesday and perhaps one or two more but would give ITM a run against Stockport be nice to beat them but at this time league wins are priority not Johnson`s cup thingy
so come on you whites keep shooting
from all parts of the pitch and we might score four again if we do not take pot shoots we do not score and for weeks since the start of the season thats been lacking.
but as they say one swallow does not make a summer (I know winter coming up)but let`s see if we can kick off from here with a win against MKD and climb out of the bottom four and up the table but we need the same effort in the next few league games and a settled
squad with Ash Taylor Marlon Broomes Adam McGurk added to
the squad in the coming weeks glad to see Joss Labadie and ITM back and Blanchard in for McLaren(not the player he was at this moment) but it is back to back league wins we need(around 33
on the trot would do) but any way a good run would be a change might be good to rest Showunmi
on Tuesday and perhaps one or two more but would give ITM a run against Stockport be nice to beat them but at this time league wins are priority not Johnson`s cup thingy
so come on you whites keep shootingfrom all parts of the pitch and we might score four again if we do not take pot shoots we do not score and for weeks since the start of the season thats been lacking.Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 21:48
The difference today? Hard to say really.
Walsall were absolutely shocking throughout and probably as bad if not worse than a lot of teams we have played this season.....
..however that should not detract from arguably the best defensive display Rovers have put on this season as well as an assured and hard working attacking display led by the Ian Thomas-Moore of old - he was fantastic throughout.
Having defended Moore in the past on here, even I have had to admit in the past few weeks that he has looked lost and uninterested but after hearing in the week that his problems were behind him it more than showed today as he tracked back to help the defence, chased down lost causes and added that 'spark' to the attack.
Assisted by the best performance Joss Labadie has put in this season by far and a blistering second half (but quiet first half) showing from Dale Jennings the result was never really in doubt.
A word too for a lot of people's Man of the Match after the game Max Blanchard whose job in front of the back four was effective to say the least whilst Scott Wootton showed his higher level ability today both on and off the ball.
One key factor about today's game was just after Walsall scored to make it 2-1. At that point the way we have played in recent games we could have panicked and let Walsall come onto us but instead we attacked them from the restart and had two great chances to increase the lead and that was a key factor.
Not getting carried away given the quality of the opposition in particular but a massively important win and a good performance all round!!
Walsall were absolutely shocking throughout and probably as bad if not worse than a lot of teams we have played this season.....
..however that should not detract from arguably the best defensive display Rovers have put on this season as well as an assured and hard working attacking display led by the Ian Thomas-Moore of old - he was fantastic throughout.
Having defended Moore in the past on here, even I have had to admit in the past few weeks that he has looked lost and uninterested but after hearing in the week that his problems were behind him it more than showed today as he tracked back to help the defence, chased down lost causes and added that 'spark' to the attack.
Assisted by the best performance Joss Labadie has put in this season by far and a blistering second half (but quiet first half) showing from Dale Jennings the result was never really in doubt.
A word too for a lot of people's Man of the Match after the game Max Blanchard whose job in front of the back four was effective to say the least whilst Scott Wootton showed his higher level ability today both on and off the ball.
One key factor about today's game was just after Walsall scored to make it 2-1. At that point the way we have played in recent games we could have panicked and let Walsall come onto us but instead we attacked them from the restart and had two great chances to increase the lead and that was a key factor.
Not getting carried away given the quality of the opposition in particular but a massively important win and a good performance all round!!
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 22:29
Where all the negative posters by the way?
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Prenton oldpup (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 22:37
What a difference a week makes in football!! After last weeks rubbish showing today everyone worked their socks off for each other. Like I said after last weeks match that we missed joss Labadie and the know how of ITM. Well today we got both and both showed their class in a good team performance. Even our Goalkeeper Gulacsi who took some undeserved criticism last week had an excellent game. Lets hope the team turns up in the same frame of mind next week against MK Dons.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: PeteTRFC (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 22:51
unbelievable. i too never saw that coming. lets hope we can carry that performance into the next game, and get a bit of consistency
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2010 22:53
They may not have been good today Walsall, but in fairness since Devaney joined them, their form had picked up and they could have been bouyed by that, especially as the game was on their ground.
It alwqays looked like a different proposition to the cup game, but the form is now important. Tranmere cannot ride on the back of one performance.
They now average 1 goal a fame and roughly 1.5 goals a game conceded, so the concession level is not all that bad overall and hopefully now the goal scoring rate can perk up a bit.
At least Tranmere have kept clean sheets this season. Though ironically Walsall's goal kept their goal diference higher than Tranmere's, (-7 as opposed to -8 for Tranmere), which would have bene the other way round, if they'd failed to score the goal, or if Macken had signed for Tranmere and couldn't score for them
It alwqays looked like a different proposition to the cup game, but the form is now important. Tranmere cannot ride on the back of one performance.
They now average 1 goal a fame and roughly 1.5 goals a game conceded, so the concession level is not all that bad overall and hopefully now the goal scoring rate can perk up a bit.
At least Tranmere have kept clean sheets this season. Though ironically Walsall's goal kept their goal diference higher than Tranmere's, (-7 as opposed to -8 for Tranmere), which would have bene the other way round, if they'd failed to score the goal, or if Macken had signed for Tranmere and couldn't score for them
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: mallorcapete (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2010 13:17
dont forget we are all rovers fans ,hoping fot the best,lets hope this is the start,lets go for it v stockport,and then mk wimbledon 3 wins on the trot come on rovers we are all with you
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2010 16:19
What we need now is to try to get 2 wins in a row. Will this result encourage Parry to be more attacking when away
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: tranmerepete (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2010 19:50
Still third from bottom woohoo good win but lets see if we can carry on.......................
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2010 19:54
malorcapete yeah we are all Rovers fans but we don't all see 'support' in the same way ! I am sick of certain posters who seem determined to find anything negative to post about the team they 'Support'
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Matty_1985 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2010 09:13
Where are all the moaning a**es that wanted Les gone last week???
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2010 12:52
I'm not saying that this one win changes things from a whole perspective (which is what those negative people will argue), but it annoys me that there is no appearance from those people to say anything positive at all after a win - especially a win of this size.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: tranmerepete (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2010 17:34
Im one 100 per cent a Tranmere fan. But i don't have to like the way we have been playing under Les. Good win but lets see what next maybe he can prove to me he can do well so far i have not seen it..................
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2010 20:44
I agree some will not alwyas view Les in the way he hope to be viewed but some of the overall nagativity is dumb.
The critics like their little kick Les in the balls moments, then they just slither off like Skinks, back under a rock, when they know they'll take some grief for it, they can't deal with.
If they don't like things that much, they should all stump up a collective total of around £250,000-£500,000+ a season, of their own money, to help Les buy better players and get better results.
The critics like their little kick Les in the balls moments, then they just slither off like Skinks, back under a rock, when they know they'll take some grief for it, they can't deal with.
If they don't like things that much, they should all stump up a collective total of around £250,000-£500,000+ a season, of their own money, to help Les buy better players and get better results
.Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: supersaddler (IP Logged)
Date: 26/10/2010 00:49
Quote:Deadly Submarine
The difference today? Hard to say really.
Walsall were absolutely shocking throughout
no change there then, :/
One key factor about today's game was just after Walsall scored to make it 2-1. At that point the way we have played in recent games we could have panicked and let Walsall come onto us
don't be silly
but instead we attacked them from the restart and had two great chances to increase the lead and that was a key factor.
Not getting carried away given the quality of the opposition or lack of :/
in particular but a massively important win and a good performance all round!!
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: supersaddler (IP Logged)
Date: 26/10/2010 00:52
Quote:Matt34
At least Tranmere have kept clean sheets this season.[b][/b] can we swap keepers pleasssssseeeeeeee......
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: Ricci (IP Logged)
Date: 26/10/2010 14:06
Before any one says whay I haven't posted after a win etc etc, I have been away from home since the game. Also if you look I posted straight after the Bristol victory.
Does the Walsall result change my views on les? Not at all, I still think he is stubborn in his ways, the football is dreadful and he is just not a manager. Doesen't mean to say I am not delighted at the result from saturday.
Would Mclaren have played if he was fit? Maybe, no coincidence he didn't and we won. The acid test is winning back to back league games. If we get battered at home to Mk next week is everyone going to say"oh but it doesen't matter because we won last week".
The fact is we are still in the bottom three. We need to put a run together so we can climb away from danger. One win every now and then isn't enough. Just because I dislike Les it doesen't mean I want us to lose, which I think some posters do which is just ridiculous.
Does the Walsall result change my views on les? Not at all, I still think he is stubborn in his ways, the football is dreadful and he is just not a manager. Doesen't mean to say I am not delighted at the result from saturday.
Would Mclaren have played if he was fit? Maybe, no coincidence he didn't and we won. The acid test is winning back to back league games. If we get battered at home to Mk next week is everyone going to say"oh but it doesen't matter because we won last week".
The fact is we are still in the bottom three. We need to put a run together so we can climb away from danger. One win every now and then isn't enough. Just because I dislike Les it doesen't mean I want us to lose, which I think some posters do which is just ridiculous.
Re: Walsall v Tranmere Rovers Match Discussion
Posted by: dr.death (IP Logged)
Date: 26/10/2010 19:43
Funniest moment from Saturday was everyone shouting Brian at the goalie when his name was brain made me giggle
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