Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
By Deadly Submarine
February 1 2011
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Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Total Tranmere (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 12:54
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Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: iagoapcen (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 19:27
goodison in! les really is an aldo when it comes to misleading "oh he's miles away/defo out" pre-match press conferences lol
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 22:17
well not a bad result afainst a good side ! clear that Kay Warner and Mc C need time,and may be Goody not fit! they will gel better
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Mike-trfc (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 22:23
Remember Wednesday night reserves away vs st Helens town. At Ashton fc.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Mikey (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 22:23
Point isn't good enough considering the circumstances. We tried to defend for 60 minutes, ridiculous.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Eddie Bishop (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:08
Agreed. Cannot sit that deep. Enoch cannot be expected to close down their whole back four on his own. The bloke was clearly knackered and needed some help.
Just dissapointing to see us with 8 players in a line on the edge of our area, and letting them on to us. Some of them must be marking space rather than a man. Seems to have happened the last three home matches
Mind you we Taylor or Jennings could have both made it two nil but fluffed the chances.
Just dissapointing to see us with 8 players in a line on the edge of our area, and letting them on to us. Some of them must be marking space rather than a man. Seems to have happened the last three home matches
Mind you we Taylor or Jennings could have both made it two nil but fluffed the chances.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:13
Agree with the last two posts fully.
Out of interest did the equaliser come directly from the needless and petty free-kick that Robinson gave away in front of our dugout?
Out of interest did the equaliser come directly from the needless and petty free-kick that Robinson gave away in front of our dugout?
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Mikey (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:17
Which came about from an abysmal piece of refereeing and linesmaning because it was an absolutely blaitent TRFC throw in.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:21
Doesn't excuse the pointlessness of what he did though regardless of what went before!
I don't know if the goal did come directly from that like.
I don't know if the goal did come directly from that like.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:35
I'd imagine Akpro could have reason to be pleased with himself, knowing the time it took to process his booking and the subsequant time to get the game restarted, could have added up to more than the extra time neded to sneak that goal, because with a free flowing last 14-15 minutes, Tranmere might have just been safe for the 3 points.
There must be some way to stop Labadie getting so many darn bookings as well, because it may sometimes cost the team points, when he's suspended and I think his inexcusable sending off behaviour some weeks back, is an extension of the behaviour that causes him to get booked.
I know players will get booked, but I do think he's getting more than is acceptable and he's a good player, so surely he can find a way to slightly refine his game, without turning him into a standoff player that sometimes bottles things, because he's under 21, so this shouldn't be one of those things where he'll never change and he'll be like Robbie Savage and Lee Bowyer were 10 years ago, he should be able to develop a more tough but fair attitude to certain circumstances.
I'm still trying to come to terms with what transpired, but overall the team by and large did well and there's enough evidence for me, to think, that Tranmere will rise up the table, especially when teams like Swindon and Plymouth and potentially Bristol Rovers continue to suffer.
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There must be some way to stop Labadie getting so many darn bookings as well, because it may sometimes cost the team points, when he's suspended and I think his inexcusable sending off behaviour some weeks back, is an extension of the behaviour that causes him to get booked.
I know players will get booked, but I do think he's getting more than is acceptable and he's a good player, so surely he can find a way to slightly refine his game, without turning him into a standoff player that sometimes bottles things, because he's under 21, so this shouldn't be one of those things where he'll never change and he'll be like Robbie Savage and Lee Bowyer were 10 years ago, he should be able to develop a more tough but fair attitude to certain circumstances.
I'm still trying to come to terms with what transpired, but overall the team by and large did well and there's enough evidence for me, to think, that Tranmere will rise up the table, especially when teams like Swindon and Plymouth and potentially Bristol Rovers continue to suffer.
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Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:37
But I suppose you could say the same about the time Dale Jennings took to come off when subbed as well Matt?
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: PeteTRFC (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:51
I agree about us sitting back and trying to defend our lead. Granted it worked against Southampton, but against Walsall & Rochdale (which lets be fair are neither the best teams in the league) we concede late goals and lose 4 points. Who decides to sit so deep. No-one on the halfway line for their corners which means there is no outlet. You could see what was going to happen
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Snider (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2011 23:59
Why is Les Parry still in the job we need to move the club forwards and get rid.He has zero tactical knowledge and allows his players to sit back whilst the opposition attack all the time.He needs to movitate the players to work as a unit and keep their shape not leave gaps so players can just walk through on goal, ive seen better west cheshire sides who would hammer the rovers.
we are always on the back foot at home trying to defend no need at all for this! playing 1 striker alone up front at home is a joke he should play 4 4 2 like the olden days and make Prenton park a fortress again!!
Will parry sort it out??i guess not!!
we are always on the back foot at home trying to defend no need at all for this! playing 1 striker alone up front at home is a joke he should play 4 4 2 like the olden days and make Prenton park a fortress again!!
Will parry sort it out??i guess not!!
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: mattyj (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 08:33
I came away from the match last night angry which was frustrating because we had played so well.
I don't understand why we sit back so much and invite pressure. At corners we never leave anyone up so if we do get the ball clear, there's no one to ease the pressure. Its something that desperately needs to be worked on because its cost up 4 points and we can't afford to lose anymore.
On the other hand, our finishing was woeful at times. Enoch seems lacking in confidence and it showed last night and ash should just pass it to someone who can hit it because his finishing was truely dreadful. truth is we should have been home and dry with the amount of wasted chances. Seems we have solved one problem in creating them, now we need to sort out converting them.
On a side note, I thought rochdale were the best side I've seen this season.
I don't understand why we sit back so much and invite pressure. At corners we never leave anyone up so if we do get the ball clear, there's no one to ease the pressure. Its something that desperately needs to be worked on because its cost up 4 points and we can't afford to lose anymore.
On the other hand, our finishing was woeful at times. Enoch seems lacking in confidence and it showed last night and ash should just pass it to someone who can hit it because his finishing was truely dreadful. truth is we should have been home and dry with the amount of wasted chances. Seems we have solved one problem in creating them, now we need to sort out converting them.
On a side note, I thought rochdale were the best side I've seen this season.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 10:28
The lack of fire power is why Moore will be missed. At the end of the season late leads conceded could cost us dearly.
The sit back approach must be down to Parry.Attacking may bring arisk but one win and one defeat would against Rochdale and Walsall would still be a better return. So often tring to defend 3 points results in just one
The sit back approach must be down to Parry.Attacking may bring arisk but one win and one defeat would against Rochdale and Walsall would still be a better return. So often tring to defend 3 points results in just one
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Mikey (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 10:35
ITM has scored 3 goals from open play, Enoch has hit the net more times than him from open play.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Matthew the rover (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 12:27
The players cost us the win, not Les. Ash Taylor really should have had a hatrick, he missed THREE clear cut chances, whilst Dale should never have missed that chance in the second half.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: ronnie barmy army (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 13:36
no the goal never come from the free kick gave away in there half it came from the other side of the pitch minuites later and if remember rightly it was throw in for us after gud hold up play by robbo which ref didnt give.thought he look dangerous when eva he got ball which is very limited in way we play.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Ricci (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 14:13
I am furious with what happened. Dale was awful, never ran at his man, gave the ball away. I don't want to be too harsh on him though because he has won us games single hadnedly.
We have the better chances but you have to say on balance of play a draw was fair. They controlled the game to be honest, our chances came from their defensive mistakes.
We have the better chances but you have to say on balance of play a draw was fair. They controlled the game to be honest, our chances came from their defensive mistakes.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: BELMONT (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 14:28
Not good enough
most of the second half defending 
to deep again pumping balls up the field only for it to come back time after time and the longer it went on the more chance that the inevitable would happen and in the end it did another two points gone and we can not afford to go on like that when those around us like Yeovil are picking up three and we slip back into below the trap door
. Years ago we had teams that leaked goals but what ever we let in be it one or two it did not matter we had firepower and we would still win because we would put away more goals than the opposition we lost that last night(so to speak I know we drew)not because we let in a soft goal but because of the fact can not score.
most of the second half defending to deep again pumping balls up the field only for it to come back time after time and the longer it went on the more chance that the inevitable would happen and in the end it did another two points gone and we can not afford to go on like that when those around us like Yeovil are picking up three and we slip back into below the trap door. Years ago we had teams that leaked goals but what ever we let in be it one or two it did not matter we had firepower and we would still win because we would put away more goals than the opposition we lost that last night(so to speak I know we drew)not because we let in a soft goal but because of the fact can not score.Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: SoBtB (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 16:28
Rather drop two points to Rochdale than anyone else. Good North-Western side.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: BELMONT (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 19:15
Quote:I know giving away two points may be a charitable thing to do even to North Western side like Rochdale even if you have a soft spot for them but our survival is worth more than giving them the points were getting to the point of beingSoBtB
Rather drop two points to Rochdale than anyone else. Good North-Western side.
down stream with out a paddle
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: @gony (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 20:22
one defeat in six games after getting beaten 3 or 4 on the trot......................
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 21:39
Good call on that. That's actually a 50% total from 6 games.
By my past reckoning, 55% of total possible points for a season, would be enough to make the playoffs, so currently in the last 6 games, the team is achieving not far off that.
It's just a case of sustaining it and not having players fluff chances or throw games away like they did at Walsall.
Rochdale were a bit lucky, but Tranmere had enough chances and some playes need to address their use of footballing nous when in or around the goal.
By my past reckoning, 55% of total possible points for a season, would be enough to make the playoffs, so currently in the last 6 games, the team is achieving not far off that.
It's just a case of sustaining it and not having players fluff chances or throw games away like they did at Walsall.
Rochdale were a bit lucky, but Tranmere had enough chances and some playes need to address their use of footballing nous when in or around the goal.
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: bigmart (IP Logged)
Date: 02/02/2011 21:47
Or 2 wins in the last 10 games
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: tranmerepete (IP Logged)
Date: 03/02/2011 18:48
Or one spot off the drop zone...................
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Every ball is a white ball............TRFC
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 04/02/2011 13:14
Spot on.The raelity is that dropping points in games that could have been won has put us in the relegation fight and will keep us there.March looks areally tough month and if we cannot pull clear in Feb I think that we will be in deep trouble
Re: Tranmere Rovers v Rochdale Match Discussion
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/02/2011 20:09
Other teams however will continue to suffer.
Bristol Rovers have inadequate form, Swindon and Plymouth are suffering without good players, whereas Tranmere have bolstered since December and not lost any players to bigger clubs, except Moore going and he mostly scored penalties and set up one goal, so despite his great service to the club, he wasn't highly instrumental this season in results.
I think there would have been others who could have stepped up to the spot in his absence.
Unless Sheffield Wednesday turn their form around, they're going to slide as well. Substandard for a high spending club.
Bristol Rovers have inadequate form, Swindon and Plymouth are suffering without good players, whereas Tranmere have bolstered since December and not lost any players to bigger clubs, except Moore going and he mostly scored penalties and set up one goal, so despite his great service to the club, he wasn't highly instrumental this season in results.
I think there would have been others who could have stepped up to the spot in his absence.
Unless Sheffield Wednesday turn their form around, they're going to slide as well. Substandard for a high spending club.
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