Tranmere Rovers v Charlton Athletic Match Discussion
By Deadly Submarine
February 17 2012
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Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
I'll take a draw IF we can hang on (famous last words).
Quote:@gony
excellent
I apologise @gony, however I reserve judgement until the end of the season, but yes agreed, great result and a controversial Charlton goal
Onwards and Upwards!
Charlton are not Real Madrid and we backed off too much in the 2nd half and invited them onto us. They probably deserved to win, certainly in chances created.
Still, we didn't lose I suppose.
Quote:six points off the relergation zoneRicci
Draws are no good to us. The gap to the bottom four has narrowed again and that is now 1 win in 18.
Charlton are not Real Madrid and we backed off too much in the 2nd half and invited them onto us. They probably deserved to win, certainly in chances created.
Still, we didn't lose I suppose.
or 6 points from 10th place ! well I'm happy with todays result
Quote:Ricci
Draws are no good to us. The gap to the bottom four has narrowed again and that is now 1 win in 18.
Charlton are not Real Madrid and we backed off too much in the 2nd half and invited them onto us. They probably deserved to win, certainly in chances created.
Still, we didn't lose I suppose.
A good result if we were not on the run we are on if Walsall win their game in hand we will be down to three points off the bottom four so really a win was what was needed today;Les puts on subs that were like for like that`s OK if we were winning but it does not change things ,OK perhaps players were getting to a point when they loose their legs but again we sat to deep when defending and why do they not leave some on the half way line when we are defending a corner it just leads to ball coming back at us when cleared,oh and why does Les still stick with McGurk as one of his main strike force but I am sorry to me McGurk chickens out to many times and fails to take his chances when given them,we need wins fast(a win I told is when your team scores more then the others)
Quote:Deadly Submarine
Disappointing to lose a lead but great result!
It could have been better if we'd tried to push forward more in the second half.Quite disappointing in some aspects-nothing like as good a performance as against Huddersfield.
Quote:Mal again
To those still moaning... Charlton's away record is W11, D3 L2. So 1-1 was a fine result.
Were you there?
Quote:does the fact that he may have been there or not alter the stats he states ???? and the Fact we held high flying Charlton to a draw ! credit where it is dueHoots MonQuote:Mal again
To those still moaning... Charlton's away record is W11, D3 L2. So 1-1 was a fine result.
Were you there?
We were the better team in the first half but they came out and got on top of us straight away in the 2nd half, we got pushed back too deep and were holding on for the point in the end.
1 win in 18 really is very worrying indeed and we really need to get a win or two soon as the pack are starting to close.
Quote:and again for the 2nd time how does thet alter the stats Mal printed ? to me it doesn;t so why are you picking on him !? when all he has done is support TRFC ! ??????????????????????????????Hoots Mon
If you were not there,you have no idea how we performed.Charlton did not perform like a top of the table team and were there for the taking.
He was trying to justify why it could be OK for some people to have a moan, and he's right. We sat well to deep.
A good point on the whole but could quite easily have been all three. Teams below starting to catch up now and we are in a rot. L2 bound, draw or not unless we start winning games back to back.

Quote:chat in black and whie miky@gonyQuote:does the fact that he may have been there or not alter the stats he states ???? and the Fact we held high flying Charlton to a draw ! credit where it is dueHoots MonQuote:Mal again
To those still moaning... Charlton's away record is W11, D3 L2. So 1-1 was a fine result.
Were you there?
I'm going to place a bet on us winning our next four in a row because I'm convinced we've turned a corner. Roll on Oldham.
P.S. I don't know what Charlton's no.5 took at half time. In the first half he looked like he'd never even seen a football before. In the second half he was initiating all of their attacks.
As for McGurk, McGurk whether he avoids tackles or not, scored 3 goals in 3 consecutive games and is the only striker in the squad this season, who has shown any ability to find a bit of consistency, so he must be favoured right now.
Injuries have to some extent cost the team some points, with all the chopping and changing and therefore more chopping and changing of fit players, might not be beneficial either.
Frankly if Mcgurk avoids challenges, then that's his decision, but if he goes for two many and gets crocked for a long time, it would seriously crimp the goal tallies the team gets and they aren't getting a tonne of goals this season, so McGurk may be looking at big Enoch's woes in the past 9-10 months and knowing he might be more likely to suffer similar problems, because he's not as big and solid as Enoch and probably couldn't take some of the knocks as much as he could.
However I'm just speculating, because on Adam knows exactly what goes on in his head, except when he tells other people that is.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
Quote:MalkinsNobblyKnees
I thought that was a good performance against an excellent team that had some misfiring players today. Down the spine of the team - Ash, Goody, Weir, Wallace, Welsh and Brunt - we were excellent. Down the flanks maybe the difference in class showed a little but we wont be playing anyone of Charlton's quality again this season.
I'm going to place a bet on us winning our next four in a row because I'm convinced we've turned a corner. Roll on Oldham.
P.S. I don't know what Charlton's no.5 took at half time. In the first half he looked like he'd never even seen a football before. In the second half he was initiating all of their attacks.
Save your money.
1 win in 18 no wins in 9 this year and 8 wins in the league all season is dismal to put it mildly.
Quote:Mal Again
I will try again. Before the game, and regardless as to whether anyone attended, there was just over 76% chance Charlton would win, just under 12% chance they would draw and same for a loss. The actual result, totally disregarding performance or who was watching was far less likely than a loss against Charlton. That makes it a good result.
We've drawn 1-1 against Charlton on the last 4 or 5 occasions we've played them. What are the odds of that o mathematical genius? I'd work it out myself but,in the words of a maths teacher at the school I used to go to many years ago, who got stuck trying to show us how to do the homework that nobody could fathom out'Huh,I would if I could but I can't so I shan't.''
What also were the odds of six teams below us all winning?
As I said yesterday-we stuck when we should have twisted. We played safe when we should have gone for it.
Quote:bigmart
Walsall play Scunthrope at home on tuesday, a home win and we are 3 points off the bottom 4
Walsall play Scunthorpe away on Tuesday not at home but a win for Walsall would still result in the gap only being THREE POINTS *LES* now it`s time to start to be panicky because the other day you stated we were not in the drop zone so we had nothing to worry about,Les that door getting nearer we need wins and fast.
Well done boys, we will be start winning games shortly!
Quote:are you saying your happy with the way things arte then i win in 18 games ,if your happy then good luck to you but i wonder if you will be happy when we are going to crew accrington barnet and other such wonderfull games next year ,i dont think so ,so yes a good result but its another 2 home points dropped and another day nearer league to ,,,be happy mateSFP White in Exile
I thought that Charlton were going win easily but the way we played in the 1st half should have yielded the goals we needed to have won the game. 2nd half we defended to deep and allowed them to get into the game. A draw was deserved against a team who top the league.
Well done boys, we will be start winning games shortly!
Quote:Mal Again
I'll try for a third time to propose that.... it was a good result.
For the third time 'we stuck when we should have twisted'-it could have been a better result.
Quote:ste24yearsafan
This was a result that most of us would have been grateful for before kick off, I for one was expecting us to loose. The next two games are the one to judge on, if we win them both (which I don't think we will) then we are probably okay. if we loose them both action (Surely) would be taken to address the concern. I suspect we will get at least two points which will leave us as we are now.
I suspect if we only get two points from the next two games this will have us on 36pts.so given the next two/three games have been played the bottom could look like this.
Plyd Pts
31 Scunthorpe 37 two wins
33 Tranmere 36 two draws
33 Yeovil 36 one win
34 Exeter 36 one win
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33 Walsall 34 two wins(3 games)
33 Rochdale 30 one win
34 Wycombe 29 one win
33 Chesterfield 28 one draw
This would result in Tranmere being grouped with 36 pts and only goal difference keeping us from being 20th in the league and only two points above Walsall in 21st position if we could get one win out of the next two it would put us on 37pts same as Scunthorpe but even this would still leave us only 3pts ahead of Walsall . I know it`s a bit if and may be but if the results go like my predictions the next period of two/three games with in the group shown will be crucial so by the evening of Saturday 3rd of March we will know what will have to be done during the rest of the games.Scunthorpe seem to have the best hand given they have played less games.
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Quote:sincethesummerof69
very good performance against the team running away with the league and we should have won......but no.....wait....oh yes here it comes.....moan, groan, Les blaH BLAH BLAH, relegation blah blah, doomed blah blah, boring blah blah, theyre not Real Madrid blah blah.... if I was a player logging on I would be wondering why I bother. The same whingers would still have a go if we had won 6-0. One result blah blah, still in trouble blah blah, Les was lucky blah blah........... Prozac anyone?
Same could be said of people who have their head in the sand. The wins will come blah blah, we played well blah blah, I have faith in Les and the team blah blah I also can't believe somebody is talking about percentages. Each game is different. If we all looked at percentage scenarios for every football match, what would be the point in going?
Apologies!
I seem to recall he was nowhere, when they won the first 2 games this season for the first time in a long time; nowhere when they won 3 in a row, but suddenly Tranmere lose to Cheltenham in the cup and he slunk on here with some vitriol and has skulked here ever since, sticking the boot in at anyone and anything at Tranmere
.Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
I reserve the right to say what I want as long as I am not offensive. It is total frustration in what is in front of me.
I have not singled anyone out for criticism (except Les) and not spouted vitriol against anyone.
And your message against me? Vitriol?



