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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:03:05:21:45:13 by Deadly Submarine.

Sorry to see him leave the club, but glad he's no longer the boss.

Glad to see him gone as manager, and will erase the existence of him as the gaffer and will instead remember him for the 18 years as physio, during which time he always made me smile.

A real gentleman in the game today and I will always have fond memories of Les, and just hope the club do not abandon him and get him a backroom job ASAP.

The reason I won't remember him as manager is quite simply so not to vilify his memory with the club.

Thanks Les, and thanks for all the shorts!!

he should be given a job behind the scenes ,for all the years he has been at the club ,johnson should keep him in the back room staff thats the least the man deservs ,as a manager i wanted him gone but as a member of the rovers staff he should be found a position ,

hey gary-youve spent the last few weeks saying some really strong things about les -now your saying he should be given a job behind the scenes-havent you realised that tranmere havent got any money and thats one of the reasons les got the job in the first place.how are they then gonna find the money to pay les as a staff member?-its no use now saying hes a good fella you should have considered that before saying the things you did-ifeel sAd that its ended like this but hes well qualified so im sure he will be fine-and like a lot of people have said the time when he was physio were good times and he can always hold his head up

Agreed. Some people today have really made me laugh with their u-turn in attitude.

if you read i said he was a hapless manager and he should go as manager ,like many fans we had enogh of him in that roll ,but i also said yes he was loyle to the club and will always say that ,he was stupid to take the job full time as manager he should have just been caretaker till end of that season then stand down that way he stays with the club ,or are you trying to get the fans slaging each other off ,your comments hold no water

PerSonally really sad to see Les go but it was the right decision given the run we were on and the stick he was getting.

I think it is patronising to say he should have been given a backroom role. I could easily see him managing a league two club in a few months. Or maybe physio at a higher level given hes got managerial experience. Don't think he'll be out of work too long at any rate.

Really sorry to see Les go but the right decision given the run we are on and the stick he was getting.

Please don't patronise him by saying he should have been given a back room role. He's well thought of in the game and could easily see him managing a league two club in a few months . Or maybe physio at a higher level given the experience he now has.

I can understand some of the stick he got in the last couple of games but not the tripe people were writing about him when we were doing ok.

I would never patronise him.This decision should have been taken a long time ago-so glad he's gone.

It had to happen as he couldnt get us out of the rut we were in, personally im not sad to see him go as he was taking us into league 2.

May have been a good servant to the club certainly as a physio but proved to be too negative as a manager and couldnt alter his tactics or formation.

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hey gary-youve spent the last few weeks saying some really strong things about les -now your saying he should be given a job behind the scenes-havent you realised that tranmere havent got any money and thats one of the reasons les got the job in the first place.how are they then gonna find the money to pay les as a staff member?-its no use now saying hes a good fella you should have considered that before saying the things you did-ifeel sAd that its ended like this but hes well qualified so im sure he will be fine-and like a lot of people have said the time when he was physio were good times and he can always hold his head up

great post

Well he's finally been sacked.

Maybe now we can concentrate on survival?

It will take a miraculous improvement to survive after todays clueless depressing debacle.

Thank god i could not take the @gony any more, so relieved, its been a long time coming.

Sorry i meant Agony.........

@gony was les so he has gone ,thank god now lets get a real manager or someone who knows what they are doing

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@gony was les so he has gone ,thank god now lets get a real manager or someone who knows what they are doing

Lorraine Rogers is taking over

I tweeted Ian Moore earlier (before this news) and asked him would he do it if asked. He wouldn't be my choice personaly, but his reply was

"No, but i'd work alongside a manager"

Following on from this, he confirmed that Ronnie WOULD come back. (again not my 1st choice but beggars cant be choosers).

So, A Moore father and son act could be possible, as it seems they are both willing!

Where did u hear this

dispite what has happened in the last 20 games he will always be a tranmere legend, i wish him the best of luck with his career

Wonder which one of the vultures that were sitting in the stands will Johnson call on to take over or will Kevin Summerfield and John McMahon take over as a double act till the end of season.

Has parry gone cas it doesnt say on the website

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Where did u hear this

Are you referring where did we hear Parry has gone, or where I heard Moore would be willing to come back.

If the latter, then Ian Moore himself said it following a question tweeted to him on Twitter.

Where did they hear parry has gone

gone nowhere

on sky sports news website they believe he has been sacked.

does anyone else think paul ince would make a good manager and then we could try to get Tom ince to play for us from blackpool for a short term or even long term period

No thanks! Paul Ince isn't the man we need!

I heard someone say Sammy McIlroy. I'd never thought of him before but would be a good shout!

Parry`s match report on the Rovers web site the only thing he say`s he will not jump ship while theirs a job still to do will only go if pushed,no mention of any pushing yet so he still in command of the ship only when the club announces that he has been sacked can we take it he has gone so for now Les is still
the Manager,

a ship with or without a rudder ?

I mentioned Sammy Mc the other day. His playing achievements include the World Cup, domestic Trophies and also managing Morecambe to promotion and Macclesfield to 2 straight promotions.

Available managers like Curbishley and McClaren don't have that kind of C.V and Morecambe can't have been spending large wages beasue it cost them a tonne to build the globe.

Right now, Ronnie back would be fine with me, with possibly Ian as player assistant, or Goodison on a trial basis, or Mcilroy.

Ones I don't want are Allen or Ince. I saw Ince smoking once, hardly a good rolemodel for fitness and he has done poorly since he went ot Blackburn and acheived nothing, plus his diloyalty ot Macclesfield and MK Dons the first time are non-starters for me, as he could get Tranmere to a position like 10th place, then beetle off to a Championship side.

As for Martin I like players who cheat Allen, he can go and kiss my kerby butt.

Alhough I'd welcome pretty much anyone.

Good luck to Les in his future though, as whatever people thought of his tenure, he never encouraegd footballing malpractices and never came across as a person with a nasty streak like Ferguson does.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Jimmy Harvey or Mickey Mellon for me.

Ince did well at MK Dons the first time round and ive played against his younger son, he has coached young players so his aspects are the youth

Matt loads of respect for all your cool well balanced posts ! oft assessing our fanances ! or lack of ! do you honnestly think your in the right ball park ?

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Jimmy Harvey or Mickey Mellon for me.

Harvey for me, but I doubt he'd come under Johnson.

Mickey Mellon WONT come here - 100%

is andy quail on twitter ? and news ?

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I tweeted Ian Moore earlier (before this news) and asked him would he do it if asked. He wouldn't be my choice personaly, but his reply was
"No, but i'd work alongside a manager"

Following on from this, he confirmed that Ronnie WOULD come back. (again not my 1st choice but beggars cant be choosers).

So, A Moore father and son act could be possible, as it seems they are both willing!

I don't want any previous managers to come back particularly the one you mention.

Agony, yes I do. Mcilroy has playing and managing credentials many can't match and financially are Morcambe Crawley Town?

Nope, they're a well run, sensible financed club, but they're not big cheeses that could get £800,000 for a player, I'm certain of that and McIlroy wouldn't have bene paid handsomely, not whilst the new ground was being financed. Now that club has not had to siphen off investment, it may turn out to be the case that the club could increase what it spends on player wages and a managers salary, but it still won't make them Crawley Town.

The guy in charge of Crawley is clearly well heeled, but Morecambe wouldn't be in a position to match that spending now, but that's irrelevant, as to whether they could ever find such a way to do that in the near future or not, as McIlroy was recruited as manager before the financing of the ground and the build had been finished and when you look at his background in management, he's never managed clubs that could pay a kings ransom, so he should be affordable.

Any manager is a risk as is any player you sign. Football is always a risky sport like many others, but someone like McIlroy has plenty of upsides, that many don't.

I looked on the LMA website before and out of the obviously unnafordable jobless managers, like Cubishley and Hoddle, the ones who might be affordable that I saw had been let go of league 1, 2 and conference clubs, some of which have not managed for 4+ years, which is not ver confidence building for me personally.

As a side not another couple of people aside from Allen and Ince I wouldn't want are Dave Penny, as I think he's poor and John Beck as he's been had up in the past at Lincoln and Cambridge for disrepute charges.

Lincoln I believe was financial irregularites, for which from memory he got sacked and Cambridge for amongst other things employing tactics like encouraging diving and giving ballboys hot towels but encouragin the ball to only be wiped for his playes not opposition players, which is gamemanship of sorts.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

how many applied after barnes and Mc ????? why did they none of them get it ? why did it fall to the physio Matt !? what do you think ?@

no post match interview from les. Rumours he dident get the team bus home. looks like hes gone. but cant find any where that can confirmed this.

Nothing personal Les but I really hope this is true.

hehas gone just got a call its on sky sports ,he was sacked after the game

its on the sky website now. that they believe he has been sacked

I eventually found it and it looks like it's true. Given the way things were going and him still being there, I actually was shocked, as I half expected it to be a case of Johnson reviewing things at the end of the season.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Not a thing on the Rover`s web site only Les`s match report and he has not chucked it in and will not unless pushed so he`s still there at the helm have to wait till we see it`s official

since when did our website give any up to date news!

If proved to be true, then at least it gives us time to get the points to stay up

Get deadly sub as next boss

How about Eric Nixon as boss knows club inside out asked him on Twiter would he consider rovers job if asked his words were "be a fool not to " could do a lot worse.

What about Dave Challinor? He's doing a great job as manager of AFC Fylde, top of the league apparently!

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How about Eric Nixon as boss knows club inside out asked him on Twiter would he consider rovers job if asked his words were "be a fool not to " could do a lot worse.

No thanks. Lets look at this logically. The only managers that have had success here are those that had experience...

John King (Lower league experience - highly successful)
John Aldridge (No experience - generally unsuccessful)
Dave Watson (No experience - abysmal)
Bryan Little (Experienced - Had a few good seasons)
Ray Mathias (Experienced - Didn't do too badly)
Ronnie Moore (Experienced - Did well with little resources)
John Barnes (No experience - Terrible)
Les Parry (No experience - Terrible)

Tells its own story, we need someone who ISNT embarking on their first managerial job. We need a hungry experienced manager who will see Tranmere as a step UP not a first foot on the ladder. We should be looking at managers from League 2 / non-league with a bit of a pedigree, in my opinion.

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since when did our website give any up to date news!
If proved to be true, then at least it gives us time to get the points to stay up

It`s difficult to say if Les has gone yet as his match report
is on the Rovers web site if he was sacked after the match as stated on Sky would you be bothered to write a match report
for the official site I dam sure I would not write it if I was sacked so until it`s on the Rovers site or any other outlet I would take it Les is still in charge only time will tell if we still see him in the dug out on Tuesday.

If we do,it will make what is likely to be a feisty unpleasant atmosphere against Notts County even more toxic and poisonous.And if we play like we did against Chesterfield,we'll get stuffed.

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pedro84
How about Eric Nixon as boss knows club inside out asked him on Twiter would he consider rovers job if asked his words were "be a fool not to " could do a lot worse.

No thanks. Lets look at this logically. The only managers that have had success here are those that had experience...

John King (Lower league experience - highly successful)
John Aldridge (No experience - generally unsuccessful)
Dave Watson (No experience - abysmal)
Bryan Little (Experienced - Had a few good seasons)
Ray Mathias (Experienced - Didn't do too badly)
Ronnie Moore (Experienced - Did well with little resources)
John Barnes (No experience - Terrible)
Les Parry (No experience - Terrible)

Tells its own story, we need someone who ISNT embarking on their first managerial job. We need a hungry experienced manager who will see Tranmere as a step UP not a first foot on the ladder. We should be looking at managers from League 2 / non-league with a bit of a pedigree, in my opinion.

We need somebody new who's not managed here before.Don't necessarily agree with your hungry experienced manager comment either.

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pedro84
How about Eric Nixon as boss knows club inside out asked him on Twiter would he consider rovers job if asked his words were "be a fool not to " could do a lot worse.

No thanks. Lets look at this logically. The only managers that have had success here are those that had experience...

John King (Lower league experience - highly successful)
John Aldridge (No experience - generally unsuccessful)
Dave Watson (No experience - abysmal)
Bryan Little (Experienced - Had a few good seasons)
Ray Mathias (Experienced - Didn't do too badly)
Ronnie Moore (Experienced - Did well with little resources)
John Barnes (No experience - Terrible)
Les Parry (No experience - Terrible)

Tells its own story, we need someone who ISNT embarking on their first managerial job. We need a hungry experienced manager who will see Tranmere as a step UP not a first foot on the ladder. We should be looking at managers from League 2 / non-league with a bit of a pedigree, in my opinion.

We need somebody new who's not managed here before.Don't necessarily agree with your hungry experienced manager comment either.

Thats exactly what i've just said. I wasn't calling for an ex manager to come back! I just don't think we should be a guinea pig for someone who wants to play football manager.

does anyone know for sure has he been sacked ,as its not been confirmed yet ,god i do hope he has been sacked

Well he didn't train the players today john mc and dave t done it

Nobody likes to see anyone get the sack and rovers supporters must give him credit for keeping them up after john Barnes tried his pass and move style which might have worked in a higher league but not in ours. Les did his best and has this season been allowed a fair crack of the whip before being sacked. So thanks Les and bring in the new one asp with the hope that it is not to late to help keep us up. What we need now is for everyone to show their support more than ever to the team. Come on Rovers

@SarahMulkerrins

BBC Late Kick Off understands that Les Parry has been sacked by Tranmere Rovers & that more details will emerge this afternoon.

On SSN TV yellow ticker now.

Seems that whether he goes or is still in charge will have to wait until an official announcement if nothing comes out with in the next 24hrs you can take it Les will be in that dug out on Tuesday

Belmont, hes been sacked.

danny holmes on twitter has confirmed les has been sacked

Why not a consortium of this forum's contributors who appear to know everything about the failure of Les's tactics and formation !

Bring it on !

It is now on the Liverpool Echo site after a meeting with Peter Johnson this morning he was given the sack this morning he wanted to carry on and try to bring it round but he was given no more time by Peter Johnson so has now gone.

Been told that John McMahon has also gone.

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Been told that John McMahon has also gone.

If thats the case thats interesting. Are they clearing the decks for someone to bring his whole backroom in?

Didn't Scumbag Allen wanna bring his backroom in last time and thats what made him walk away?

Hmmmm

yes your right journeyman ,he wanted all his old team with him,so he did not take the job ,the bookies make him fav ,there not usualy wrong ,to me looks like allen ,the team better preper for early morning swims in the mersey

for me it is personal, i,m glad yo've gone les parry.i just cant believe it took johnson so long.it should have been at the end of last season.youre formations and tactict were a defensive boring nightmare that never worked.9-0-1.maybe now he's gone we can play the right way.like under JOHNNY KING

Rochdale game was the start of his downfall with his like for like subs, never learnt from that game

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for me it is personal, i,m glad yo've gone les parry.i just cant believe it took johnson so long.it should have been at the end of last season.youre formations and tactict were a defensive boring nightmare that never worked.9-0-1.maybe now he's gone we can play the right way.like under JOHNNY KING

I think the quality of the strikers the midfield and the rest of the make up of the teams under John King were poles apart from the players we have now perhaps only two or three odd that play now would fit into John King squads, I would find a place for Ian Goodison(in the team) Fon Williams(inthe squad)
and Andy Robinson(when fully fit)and Devananey(in the squad on bench replacement for Nevin/Morrisey) but hope fully a new man at the helm will have a new game plan and turn things round and quickly as we need the points around fifty+ to save us from the drop so that`s around five wins and odd draw here and there depending how we get the 16pts we need as for the next three home games we need at least six pts from the nine.

Also Les never had coaching badges, but he claimed to have worked under a lot of previous managers, managers who never used the tactics he used, so why did he use such tactics anyway?

You look at what people like Ronnie Moore did with 2 up front, so why the heck would you play 1 up and 1 dropping off?

I still suspect John McMahon brought the tactical knowledge from Liverpool and fed it to Les, because it was never the standard 4-5-1, so I can't understand where Les got the idea for it, as last season it wasn't quite the same and most of this seasons squad was playing at the end of last season when some games were 3-4 goal hauls and the loss of so many goals so far, is not purely down to losing Jennings, because Akins hardly stepped up that much and Tiryaki hasn't put someone like Morrow in the shade.

He just got it wrong and here is some proof of him going backwards.

Lateef's loan spells.

2010–2011 → Tranmere Rovers (loan) 16 (5)
2012 → Tranmere Rovers (loan) 4 (0)

A marginal offside this season, but Lateef ended up with a non-existant average, but why nail some good games like Leyton Orient and Exeter at the end of last season, changing the setup and getting I think +9 goal difference from 7 games and then choosing to go with something less successful this season, when you've got players like Holmes, Buchanan, Raven and Fon Williams, instead of Warner, Kay and Bakayogo, so your back 5 has not gotten worse but even better.

The perfect excuse to explore more attacking options. The team since Fons return, is on a goal a game average for concessions, pretty much as it was before he got injured, so if that's not confidence building enough to play a more attacking game what is?

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

The 4-5-1 was down to les as thats the formation he used virtually for all of his time in charge.

The formation was all down to Les. He had the say on all the tactics.

McMahon and Summerfield were instructed what tactics to coach by Les, and they did that. They certainly didn't choose them though!

think john mac is gone as the new manager will do some coaching as well.....like what happened under RM etc... manager and assistant. we only really had an extra coach under les.

In truth Les should never have been manager.He was the cheap
option after the Barnes/McAteer expensive debacle.
Far too nice for the cut and thrust of Div 1 football and I
never really understood some of his tactics particularly
when we went one down ,as often happened.
I do hope that he stays with Rovers in some capacity because
he is a genuine club man and can still help the club.
We need someone with a bit of edge.Mad Dog Allen would be
a very interesting and different choice.
Very clever of Chelsea to hide the sacking of AVB on the
day Les is sacked.

Eric Nixon has said he is going to apply for the job

not watched many games due to funds or lack of ! but like Saturday, I have watched 10 rovers players struggle to get the ball up fron in to attacking possitione ! why so many think 9 could do better amazes me !
so many experts ! get your applications in with your CVs, you think it so easy !
remember more than once Danny H making terrible passes ! he is B'head Rovers through and through ! felt for him yeasterday ! it's just not that easy !!! and if you want to prove it is ! apply for the job !

Now we know it's Roonie and John NMc remains as well.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.