Tranmere Rovers v Brentford Match Discussion

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:10:01:21:49:17 by Deadly Submarine.

Tricky game against what i think will be a big physical side 2 1 home win

I think our pace will be to much for Brentford. As Bigmart says they r a physical side and my only worry is they may try and muscle us out of it leading to yellow cards or worse. However score first and hopefully another three points, 3-1.

I still can't believe Gillingham are top of league 2 with 22 points, but the goal difference isn't as good. I thought Tranmere were the best team in the 4 divisions at the moment.

However win tomorrow and they could and I think Tranmere can win, assuming Shaleum Logan doesn't decide to have a little nibble at Cass or Akpro and put them on the physios bench

He wasn't always the most well disciplined player Tranmere had that season.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Well its my first Tranmere game for a while, job wise and Tranmere with John Barnes kinda lost me my visits down in recent times. A no brainer, my own team Falkirk are away to Cowdenbeath and Tranmere playing Brentford, whom my mate supports and has been giving me stick with the Bees finishing above us recently, that an our ex forward Farid plays for Brentford too. He was a true hero for us last season, work rate amazing and superb in the air. Im hoping and praying we keep him quiet, perhaps I can have a shout at him to put him off...

8.44am train awaits me and really up for it.......

We are not a big physical side. We are the Barcelona of the lower leagues!!

just back in from the game and the annoying thing was conceding the goal right at the death. i thought we played too much football in our own half and didn,t put them under enough pressure. maybe it,ll stop us getting carried away with ourselves. not many plus points apart from williams 1st half save & ackpo,s great goal.thought williams,gibson were the best today but thompson was terrible i,d even start with Mcgurk, hopefully today was a one off as wev,e got some tough games ahead of us.

I thought that there were quite a few positives to take from today. Brentford are a good side - as BigBee said above they are not a big side but they do play in a physical way, in as much as they are tough tackling and don't give the opposition any time on the ball. However, as was the case in our last three home games, despite conceding a lot of posession im the first half our defence snuffed out pretty much everything they threw at us (even though to be fair we only got to half time level thanks to a fantastic OFW save). In the second half when we started to get hold of the ball and started to attack we created a lot of decent chances and a couple of great chances.
The goal from JLAA was pure brilliance and he was a real threat whenever he got the ball in a wide position. It seems that the less dangerous his position is when he gets the ball the more likely is that he'll threaten the opposition defence.
Definitely don't agree with the above comment on Thompson. While I wouldn't say he put in a great performance he had to put in a defensive shift today and did that well.
To me the main negatives were Ash's passing (again) and the fact that a few key players looked off their games for long stretches today. In the case of Ash's passing it's something that everyone knows about so I don't know why we insisted on giving him the ball time after time (does he zing 60 yard precision passes around in training?). Again though, nothing wrong with his actual devending. With regards to performance levels dropping, that's 13 games already this season with a more or less unchanged side so maybe we have to start looking at changing things up a bit.
All in all though a creditable, if ultimately heart-breaking draw.

Firstly I thought Brentford deserved their point BUT I thought they were and extremely average side.

I say that because the way we played today, a decent side in our League would have punished and beaten us Brentford didn't seem capable of taking advantage until we gifted them the late goal by switching off.

Apparently Rosler has said that they gifted us a goal but theirs was certainly one.

Also it's gutting that Douglas scored as I felt another, stronger referee would have sent him off ten minutes earlier for the challenge on Thompson for which he got only a yellow card.

Still as we were at the top with Stevenage and Notts County drawing too so into Scunthorpe to get back to winning ways. I'm not too disheartened tonight.

Heart breaking, but based on our very poor first half performance probably all we deserved. Why do we only want to play 2nd half football?!! keeps on happening!

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I say that because the way we played today, a decent side in our League would have punished and beaten us

I don't think that's a valid assumption. Just like Coventry, Brentford packed their midfield and forced us into errors but that meant that they only had two guys isolated up front. If they'd had more bodies in attack they wouldn't have forced us into giving the ball away as much. No team in this division is good in all areas!

A little disappointed with today. I felt Brentford came for a point: they packed the midfield and looked to close us down as quickly as possible. They frustrated us and didn't give us much space. Unfortunately, we didn't really know how to combat that, and the game only really opened up when they went 4-4-2 and JLAA scored an excellent goal.

I did however think Zoum was absolutely superb (does he ever lose a header?) whilst Gibson was again a rock at the back. Fonners had a solid game too; a terrific save keeping it at 0-0 in the first half and did well coming for crosses too.

We are still three points clear at the top of the league which is great, though it'll be interesting to see how we react to conceding such a late goal on Tuesday. We haven't really suffered a blow like that in the league yet.

Scunthorpe can be a bit of a bogie team for us, but with our strike force we can definitely beat them. Hopefully Wallace will be fit.

I'm a bit knarked about the concession. I'd have been more able to take it, if it had happend 20-30 minutes sooner and Tranmere had time to respond, especially as Notts county once again stole a draw from defeat after Akpro scored the gap was going to be 6 points which would have been a good thing to have when their game comes up soon, in case they steal it, but still top and the back 5 playing brilliantly and I still maintain Fon is potentially the best keeper in this league.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

I think that a point was about the right result from the performances but the manner in which it came was a bit disappointing.
I thought Brentford were very clever and got their tactics spot on in the first half. Whenever Wallace or Robbo got anywhere near the ball, they had two or three players on them and nullified the threat. The 451 they played was extremely effective and we just couldn't get anything going. What we needed to do was get it wide more, but we didn't and for me it was the perfect game for Bell Baggie as Thomson just doesn't seem to want to take players on.

For me the game changed when they made their substitution, went from a 451 to a 442 and suddenly we got the room we desperately needed in the middle and started to control the game. It was no coincidence that we scored soon after and it looked like we would go on and win the game. We needed a second which didn't come, had it then so would the three points. The defending was awful for their goal, it was like the old Tranmere rearing it's ugly head and we need to work hard on defending in training.

What I would take from todays game is for Ronnie to learn and try and come up with a solution to get round teams packing out the midfield and stopping our key players. I think teams will look at their performance today and see it as the only way to get anything out of us which is a worry if we can';t figure a way round it.

I cant disagree with many points above, this is my first live view of current Tranmere since Pre John Barnes.....I thot we were hanging in there in first half altho Bees were better team and it was more one way traffic in 2nd half in our favour up until last 10 mins or so.

Draw was probably fair result but you dont wanna say or hear that....

My main thots.....I thot Robbo was superb, My team Falkirk are going thro this fancy formation ala Barcelona of 4-2-3-1 and of such but I have shouted Ronnie Moores 4-4-2.....Im not a great believer on lower competitions being won on fancy dan formations but heyho, tis refreshing to see its not caught on. Robbo tho does seem to have a license to wander, Im guessing that its why he has come up trumps in scoring. He also seems to be enjoying his game and also looking fitter than I have seen him previously.

Cassidy also is a lot taller than I thot he was, doesnt really cut it in the air tho but on today, it looks like a full season at Tranmere will do him the world of good, dont think he is quite ready for step up, a season here would probably build him up for starting slot next season

Gibson was outstanding, different aspect with defenders and on todays showing Gibson is ready but again I hope a season long loan would benefit us and the player long term.....

Ive watched Williams make many a great save via tv but his save in first half was outstanding and over these couple of seasons he has proved he is up there with some of the Tranmere greats between the sticks

Wallace was poor today, too many bad passes tho never hid, Zoom was superb, he seems the kinda player if you had 10 of him.....feck it 11 then you would be there or thereabouts come May, allround natural....

I fairly enjoyed today, my own team Falkirk are going thro somewhat bad period with a stubborn defensive approach, we have a top 3 budger in our league.....Tranmere Im guessing have a lower 10 budget, which shows a manager can make best with what he's got

Anyway Im wittering on, had great day out, 3pts wouldve made it a little sweeter but its great to be back to my English home an looking to see when I can do either an away or home trip......

I often think a team like Falkirk are a bit too good for that league, but can't seem to find that ability to step up the next level and sustain a good run of seasons, but obviously that will be down to finances in some respects.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.