Council Approves Plans for Ingleborough and Woodchurch

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Fantastic news

Good news indeed and the kind of progressive thinking this area will benefit form.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

i dont no if this is huge new because we still need to find a buyer hopefully that wont take to long, once we find a buyer i think it will be great for the club

I suppose there will be a right of appeal against the decision, so I'm not getting too happy just yet

Great News!

Good news, but sure the saga isn't over. How could the council not approve a scheme that:
1. Will provide new affordable housing in an central urban setting.
2. Will provide employment, revenue and taxes at no cost to the council.
3. Will produce first class sporting facilities available for all in place of the rather run down Woodchurch facilites.
4. Will help to secure the future of one of the borough's highest profile businesses, possibly creating a flagship project of social ownership.

Put a questionnaire out like this and you'd struggle to find too many people who didn't think it was a good idea.

Except people, some of whom, when asked online about their knowledge and patronage of the memorial, before and / or after the original Ingleborough announcement, wouldn't disclose such things.

When you have that kind of argument harming opposition, you should expect a more likely yes scenario than a no.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

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Doogieissh*t
Good news, but sure the saga isn't over. How could the council not approve a scheme that:
1. Will provide new affordable housing in an central urban setting.
2. Will provide employment, revenue and taxes at no cost to the council.
3. Will produce first class sporting facilities available for all in place of the rather run down Woodchurch facilites.
4. Will help to secure the future of one of the borough's highest profile businesses, possibly creating a flagship project of social ownership.

Put a questionnaire out like this and you'd struggle to find too many people who didn't think it was a good idea.

I would buy this lock, stock and barrel, if it was like this.

However, this is not anywhere near, what the club is proposing. That is if they don't change the plans!

Which bit is incorrect then? Ingleborough Rd is an urban location and the club intends to sell it for housing development, which will create employment and some affordable housing (all new developments must) and . This will therefore bring revenue and taxes for the council. I don't believe the council are being asked to put in any funds to the project though granted there may be some central government development grants that could possible be used.

Part, maybe most, of the money from the sale will go to PJ to reduce the club's debt and possibly enable the Trust to buy it, thus making it more financially viable and possibly meaning community ownership. And finally the club will redevelop Woodchurch, creating a fit-for-purpose training ground, upgrading and extending the existing run-down facilities which, apart from the training ground, will remain open to the public at the same cost as other council-run facilities in the borough. That, as I understand it, is what is being proposed. Am I wrong? Please enlighten me.

I know the trust are propsing a hotal complex. I wonder if that would still be feasible in time.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

The housing plans for the site are for 3 & 4 bedroomed houses, they are not social housing by anybodys stretch of imagination.
Do you imagine the residents voting for social housing.

I agree there will be a limited benefit in jobs and taxes, but nothing major.

The monies generated will go toward reducing the debt, but the club will still be heavily in debt.

If you believe the club will be owned by the trust. Pigs are flying! Great idea, but realistictly, They do not have the monetary clout to invest and do what needs to be done after the club has been left to wither away for over 10 years of no investment.

|The club is well known for the lack of information it puts out. (Has Sharpy gone yet?) and it's privacy. Will things change at Woodchurch? I believe the fence is being ordered now!

Finally, the councils approval is with strings attached.
The council, because of lack of money, need to reduce costs and cannot afford to run and finance the Woodchurch site.
Rovers taking over even on rent free lease, is a great deal for the council.

It's a shame that a sporting facility as good as Ingleborough is being sacrificed, for progress!

Hopefully a fitting monument for the 88 is in place, once the expensive houses are built on the site.


I do want the new Woodchurch site, the club is desperate for a modern training site.


This story still has a long way to go.

how is the Woodchurch development being funded ? understand this must b done b4 Iboro starts ! someone will be out of pocket ! and not sure there is any gurentee that Iboro will go ahead

The monies generated from the sale of Ingleborough and the sale of the houses on the site, will be sufficient to pay for the redevelopment pf Woodchurch,

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The monies generated from the sale of Ingleborough and the sale of the houses on the site, will be sufficient to pay for the redevelopment pf Woodchurch,

But if Woodchurch has to be done first (or at least started), where does the money for Woodchuch come from in the mean time before any sale of Ingleborough?

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Ingleboro08
The monies generated from the sale of Ingleborough and the sale of the houses on the site, will be sufficient to pay for the redevelopment pf Woodchurch,

But if Woodchurch has to be done first (or at least started), where does the money for Woodchuch come from in the mean time before any sale of Ingleborough?

i'd imagine from an overdraft vs the asset. risky business if there's the possibility of the sale being blocked or delayed, but time will tell.

I don't quite know the ins and outs of the development but from what i've gathered it's a good thing long term for the club. of course PJ will take his money out, he may be tempted to leave a little in though if we are still flying high, or tempted to relax the reigns a little come january if he sees a pay day approaching. I suspect the adage of speculate to accumulate may come into his head, allow maybe an increase of £50,000/£100,000 on the wage budget for a couple of loans or frees in the hope that selling a championship club gets him £1m more.

well sub that's what I was alluding to ! we have no chance of an over draft of any size with our debt ! chicken first or the egg ? is there a builder interested or contracted to the work ?
again I ask who will fund Woodchurch development ?

we have an asset so if a lender was looking at an overdraft our liabilities would be lessened. this isn't an unusual transaction for a company

So you put our asset against our debit ? is there room to raise the funds for Woodchurch ? our asset as I'vbe said b4 is the plot of land on the corner of prenton rd west and boro rd ! as it stands its financial viability is flawed ! so it sold I'm sure that it would not be in the intersest of TRFC

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I see from the Echo site that Eric Pickles might have put the kibosh on the deal. More publicity opportunities for the Ingleborough 1

Well obviously that miserable so 'n' so Dean Johnson would like this, running his memorial to one soldier, when he could have had a world war I museum as was suggested on another site.

Though people like him clearly don't think in such simplistic terms. I think he just wanted the publicity for his above average museum.

Eric Pickles should stick to government and not interfere, as this might look like a waste his time.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Pickles sees no reason to call in the application. Offical, on BBC. Short of a sit-in protest that's it I think.

I hope this is correct. Awaiting TRTRUST meeting before the match on Saturday with interest, hoping to hear some positive news.If the development can now go ahead, although money needs to be found to commence work at Woodchurch first,then hopefully the takeover by the Trust/Another buyer can proceed.

According to the trust plans, I saw linked to on here some months back, there was supposed to be a gradual transition process around December 2012, with a takeover in May 2013.

Whether this is still fesible I'm not sure, but the Inglborough plans seem more likely to make progress a lot better.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.