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I have predicted 1-1 but obviously hoping for better.
Never tell with local games but with so many other top teams playing each other tomorrow looking forward to still being
NO 1 at close of play.

Just a quick one. Can you pay at the gate at Oldham?

I hope so as I don't have a ticket myself.

1-3 tranmere SWA!! 😃

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Another cracking win today opening up a nice 5 points gap at the top of the table. 6 away wins already this season great stuff.

brilliant result especially with sheffield united losing - I think most fans would have pleased with 4 points from the last 2 away matches - a great recovery after picking up only one point from the bournemouth doncaster and preston matches

ronnie is doing really well with a small squad and injuries within the small squad

if we could have just beaten doncaster .....!!!

hope there is a good crowd at the next home match

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brilliant result especially with sheffield united losing - I think most fans would have pleased with 4 points from the last 2 away matches - a great recovery after picking up only one point from the bournemouth doncaster and preston matches
ronnie is doing really well with a small squad and injuries within the small squad

if we could have just beaten doncaster .....!!!

hope there is a good crowd at the next home match

If it was a boxing match the Doncaster game would have been stopped half way into the second half we ran it but we fell asleep when Hume got that Ball same thing happened with Brentfordnot that we ran the Brentford game but we were winning with only minutes to go so that`s at least two more points if not three we could have now so we may have been between six to eight points ahead now. Still never mind we are still ahead of the pack and long may it continue well till at least 27th of April 2013.

That was the most nervous 10 minutes of the season! were the heck did that injury time come from?!! I don't remember even one in the second half

A very hard game but a great result.Well done to one and all.Hope Danny's injury isn't too serious.

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That was the most nervous 10 minutes of the season! were the heck did that injury time come from?!! I don't remember even one in the second half

Half a minute for each of the substitutes and a good bit for the verbal sparrings on the touchline that held things up somewhat.

Felt it was a mistake to go 4-5-1 after we scored but it paid off in the end.

Thought Kay coped perfectly in that position when Danny went off but as you say he hopefully won't be out too long!

Good solid performance today although we weren't at our best but Oldham were hardly a threat for most of the match just the last 10 mins where they kept lumping the ball into the box.

I was pleased to see the defence returning to it's early season form today, both Gibson and Taylor were very good and defending extremely well. They gave us a lot of room in midfield which again we didn't really exploit enough but when we did, Wallace just ran the game and we created a lot of chances.

I thought we lost our way a bit in the middle of the first half despite starting well but when we got a grip of the game again, we created those 3 chances which in all fairness we should have taken at least one of. I'm still wondering how on earth Wallace missed that chance.

All in all a good solid performance, a great goal from Adam McGurk and 5 points clear again. Lets see what the franchise have to offer on Friday.

we seem to be picking up an injury in every game at the moment - hopefully no further problems in the next match

to be 5 points clear at this stage is incredible

after the strong finish to last season I thought we might have a chance of the play offs but this is beyond my expectations !!

A great result and now 2 clean sheets and 3 goals in the last 2 games.

I smell at some point, another goal fest coming soon, but the important thing is the wins and 5 points clear again after dropping from 7 to 0 points clear is a boost.

Tranmere haven't had this kind of start, since the Davies, Shuker injury season, the wrecked a season with wonderful potential.

I believe if they, but particularly Davies had not been crocked, Tranmere might have sneaked top 2 in May, but this season is the best since Tranmere dropped I feel.

Hopefully Ronnie saw enough of Baxter to think again and Baxter saw enough of Wallace's rovers to want back in with his old mucka.

I think if Palmer did go back to Wednesday in January, Baxter and Wallace running the midfield, would be pretty darn interesting, sparking that old chemistry again and I think the lure of Rovers, playing with Wallace and the better potential then Oldham to succeed, could entice Baxter to turn his back on Oldham.

I don't think Tranmere would be very likely, to get another 13 points in the next 6 games. Imagine being on the safety line with exactly half a season down.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Baxter is a different type of player to Palmer who in my opinion has been the unsung hero of the team this season with his very consistently good performances.Whilst I would like to see the former back at Tranmere,I would not want him playing the Palmer role as I don't think it would suit him.Hopefully Palmer will stay beyond January.

i fear baxter would come at the expense of Robbo in the 1st XI, the lure of a potential promotion push, and dare i say it, winners medal, may temp Jose back across the mersey for 6months but i agree with Hoots, he wouldnt be a replacement for Palmer.

Shows how far we've come in a really short space of time.
I always felt this was an important game as Oldham represent where we've been the past few years.
Whatever I've said about Ronnie he's greatly improved the team with virtually nothing to spend in a short space of time.
In addition it looks like we'll be in the promotion/play-off mix which will be and exciting experience.
Ronnie deserves praise and thanks for this.

Miracles will never cease ;0)

oh and there doesn't seem to be any criticism of McGurk this week....what a difference a week makes

Ronnie deserves a knighthood for what he's achieved!! Its what makes our position in the league even the more remarkable.

Granted I've not seen either Sheff United or Stevenage but from what I have seen, there is no team that worries me in this league. If we have an off day like we did against Bournemouth, then granted were vulnerable but you only have to look how quickly we created chances yesterday from absolutely nothing, we are absolutely lethal.

I honestly don't see why people are talking about Baxter cause I think he would inhibit Wallace. From his time with us, he's quite a lazy player, doesn't track back that much and certainly isn't box to box like Palmer. He allows Wallace to run the game, get forward when he needs to and protects him when it's needed. Baxter just wouldn't do that. I totally agree with Hoots Mon, Palmer has been the unsung hero so far and we should break our backs to keep him here in January.

Wow some nice comments about Ronnie from Eric 😃

Baxter would be a decent signing as with a proper manager which we now have he can play in a number of positions and will score goals especially if played up front or just off the front man.

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oh and there doesn't seem to be any criticism of McGurk this week....what a difference a week makes

He still had an awful game on the whole but got us the win with his well taken goal.

(Which I've just realised rhymes nicely haha)

maybe we should have a "rhyming analysis of the week" award?

i may be wrong but haven,t we got palmer for the season?

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maybe we should have a "rhyming analysis of the week" award?

Haha I'll take the award this week then if that's OK?!

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i may be wrong but haven,t we got palmer for the season?

Only until January mate (at the moment).

Matty J totally agree. Baxetr for me is a bit of a luxury player who thinks he's better than he actually is. Good set pieces and moments of class but few and far between. Squad player maybe yes. Palmer def an un-sung hero. Let's also start giving Ash Taylor a bit more credit. He has been tremendous this season.

The fact remains that if Cassidy and Palmer leave in January then we will look a much weaker team. If Gibson goes as well we have lost a significant element of collective mobility which is such a feature of the current team. Goodison will not give us that but Max Power may, as could Stockton but each is likely to amount to something less than each of the 3 above

We are already looking at replacement players

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC

We have to really try hard to keep the three we've got. It'd be difficult to find three others who would fit in and perform as well.

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We have to really try hard to keep the three we've got. It'd be difficult to find three others who would fit in and perform as well.

Its out of our hands though its upto their clubs what they want to do.

How about Cole Stockton and Danny Harrison coming in to replace Cassidy and Palmer in January?

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How about Cole Stockton and Danny Harrison coming in to replace Cassidy and Palmer in January?

Wouldnt mind Stockton getting a bit of a run of games although cover will still be needed but dont think Harrison is in the same league as Palmer.

What about max?seems to score were palmer hasnt

Yeh I agree with bheadlad cos I reckon dat power is a quality player in the making 😊

Different type of player to Palmer.

I have found 3 decent possible replacements for Palmer, all from clubs who have loaned to Tranmere recently.

George Thorne of West Brom.

Nacho Ortiz. an 18 year old 3rd year liverpool Academy playewr

Francisco Junior, an Everton player with 1 cap for the portuguese under 21's, but currently no first team starts.

I suspect in relation to Cassidy though, Liverpool wouldn't loan Samed Yeşil, but that would be a potentially classy replacement, who so far hasn't played for them.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

How do you know they're decent?

I'm sure Ronnie & Dave Philpotts know what they are doing.Hopefully by January we will be 20 odd points clear so will cope without them til the end of the season!

''without them?'' we don't know whether that will definitely be the case yet.

i suspect cass will be taken back, assessed, and given back to us, he's not the finished article yet and we are clearly doing him some good.


palmer - that depends on where Sheff Wed are in the league, i reckon they'll want him back as he's highly rated at the club...more for political reasons though, looks bad to have him out winning promotion when his home club is in a dog fight at the foot of the league.

gibson, take him or leave him personally. CB's on loan are ten a penny and we could get someone just as good. i'd look at Jack O'Connell at blackburn rovers, doing well for england u19s

plus we've got goodie who will be 40 next week, ( are we having a whip round? or at least singing happy birthday on tues night? )

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i suspect cass will be taken back, assessed, and given back to us, he's not the finished article yet and we are clearly doing him some good.

palmer - that depends on where Sheff Wed are in the league, i reckon they'll want him back as he's highly rated at the club...more for political reasons though, looks bad to have him out winning promotion when his home club is in a dog fight at the foot of the league.

gibson, take him or leave him personally. CB's on loan are ten a penny and we could get someone just as good. i'd look at Jack O'Connell at blackburn rovers, doing well for england u19s

plus we've got goodie who will be 40 next week, ( are we having a whip round? or at least singing happy birthday on tues night? )

We won't get another loanee CB as good as Gibson-how you can say ten a penny is ludicrous.

we've had enough loanee CBs over the years, Wootton, Golobart looked solid enough, Grandison wasnt hopeless

We may have had all of those named in your post and more but Gibson's performances for us have IMO been comfortably the best that I can recall.

It's my belief the players quoted are decent, based on what they have done in the past, or just a gut feeling.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

What have each of them actually done?

If Gibson goes Max power would be abetter option than Harrison

[quote DevonExile]If Gibson goes Max power would be abetter option than Harrison[/quote

You mean if Palmer goes.

[quote bigmart][quote DevonExile]If Gibson goes Max power would be abetter option than Harrison[/quote

You mean if Palmer goes.[/quote]

OOps. YES!

I know juniors agent lives here in formby. He got burnt by Tranmere with Zola so no chance he would let his player come to us...........

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC

tranmere pete you're in formby too? and i thought i was the only SWA in the village

In answer to your question Hoots, George Thorne has played for the England under 19's and Portsmouth, so good experience for his age and from a club Tranmere have used for loans before.

Nacho Ortiz apparently scored 3 in 8, with some assists for the under 18's

Francisco Junior has played for the Portuguese under 21's, so that's evidence he must be pretty decent, because I doubt their under 21's are poor, based on the quality of their full international team.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

I'm with Hoots Mon on this. Aside from Wootton who I thought was excellent, Gibson for me is the best laon centre back we've had for a long time.

Also can't understand the criticism of Jervis either. He has played three and a half games and has scored once and assisted another and we also havent lost. He hasn't even played at home yet so a lot of the people won't have even seem him play other than Tuesday on the TV.

Unfortunately, Deadly, everyone is a critic, even when facts don't back their criticisms. A good job that Ronnie is manager. 5 points clear but criticism after five pints, I fear. Oops , a rhyme.

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In answer to your question Hoots, George Thorne has played for the England under 19's and Portsmouth, so good experience for his age and from a club Tranmere have used for loans before.
Nacho Ortiz apparently scored 3 in 8, with some assists for the under 18's

Francisco Junior has played for the Portuguese under 21's, so that's evidence he must be pretty decent, because I doubt their under 21's are poor, based on the quality of their full international team.

We lost on his debut away at Bournemouth...he comes across as lazy, as did Ecclestan. Not what you want to see when the rest of the team is flying high.


As for Gibbo, I stand by my comment, yes he's done well but I'm sure Ronnie can find someone equally as good...In Ronnie We Trust and all that

However he scored the opening goal and put Tranmere ahead.

Tranmere were always going to lose and how much of the blame can lie with Jervis, as opposed to the opposition who had a managerial talisman back?

As Deadly says, Jervis has yet to play at home, but as I said he's got 1 goal and an assist in a short space of time.

People need to be a little more forgiving of players initially, because sometimes some players need time to settle, but on short loan deals, it will be hard, because they only have limited time to impress, in a situation where they will not necessarily be able to hit the ground running.

To be honest, I'd prefer a player who sauntered about looking like he's doing just enough, then bangs home an important goal, than someone who's bustling, busy and not nailing goals.

For me if I'm getting a guy who is contributing to 2 goals in 3 games, he's doing okay for me, even if he might be less "busy" than other players; though other people can always disagree visa vie how he is perceived .

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Two formby rovers come on.....

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC