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Tranmere Rovers v Walsall Match Discussion
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Date: 19/11/2012 21:18
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012:11:23:17:15:32 by Deadly Submarine.
Shows how open this League is.Drawn games for TRFC,Sheff U,
MK Dons,Stevenage.Home defeats for Swindon,Crawley.
It's going to be a long exhausting season.Hang on to your hats for a rocky ride
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:11:20:22:27:15 by runcornrover.
he touched the ball 5 times in the second half the game an gave it away it 4 out of the 5 it embassing he is awful. people said we would struggle if we got injurys an with players like him an that piece of shite on the wing then they are true.
Oh dear. Is that what it means to play without Wallace? Or was it just that there were so many terrible individual performances, especially in the first half? Don't know why Harrison is getting picked on, I honestly thought that he was one of the few that emerged with any credit from the first half, especially given that we were effectively playing with a two-man midfield - the wide two might as well have worn red shirts, although at least Robinson came into the game in the last quarter of an hour. The only positives that I can think of are that Zoum looked absolutely deadly when he was moved into midfield and Gibson was an absolute rock. Stockton was very unlucky to get substituted but you could see why he made that change.
Let's just hope for Wallace and Thomo to be back for Saturday.
Oh dear. It was like the bad old days returning. Walsall were far sharper with their passing and could have won it. We were clueless. Ash looked very shaky and Robbo didn't look overly interested. Have to agree with the sponsor's MOM for once, Zoom was by far our best player. Strange decision to take off Stockton and replace him with Black. Good job other results went in our favour.
You can understand why Cole is not selected. A laboured performance making our attack look pedestrian
We need pace upfront, as of the early part of the season, The only chanes created was when Zoom was pushed forward
Harrison first half was decent, didnt see him much second half. We need to get a winger or two on loan we seem to of lost our way on the wings with the injuries. Shame for all the boos at the end, but understandable with Fridays poor showing also. Looking like we need a little break! Or a some fresh loan signing to brighten us up. And Ash Taylors passing again!! He loses so much posession for us i would consider using Kay or Goody !
though cassidy (always offside) and palmer (not as comfortable in advanced role) had poor games.
Harrison did well. Sub Max for Palmer should have happened lot earlier to try and get us in control of the game.
Lack of creativity and shots on goal again and didn't control the game like we should be even without a few players.
Thought black looked good when came on but Zoom does not have the technical ability to be a left winger....he struggles to pass it to his own man, never mind beat a right back with skill (as opposed to kick and run) and whip a killer ball in.
Its funny, people were critcising us for our performance on Friday but tonights was the real shocker.
I don't understand while people are picking on Harrison either. He did absolutely everything right tonight, passed the ball when needed, didn't hold onto it for too long, all round it was a good performance. Palmer was lost without Wallace and please will at least one of our players pick up when he does one of his runs, they all miss it everytime.
If I was gonna level any cristicism tonight it would be on Robbo. He didn't look interested at all and being the captain, that isn't good. McGurk also was poor tonight, he never picked out the right pass and was just frustrating all night. I would also seriously think about playing Zoom down the left and playing Black at left back who looked solid. We look so much more dangerous when he comes forward
Its good that they all drew tonight but you have to say that most of them will beat Walsall at home and that's why its a little disappointing. I'm just hoping that Wallace is fit for Saturday because without him, were not very good.
mattyj Its funny, people were critcising us for our performance on Friday but tonights was the real shocker.
I don't understand while people are picking on Harrison either. He did absolutely everything right tonight, passed the ball when needed, didn't hold onto it for too long, all round it was a good performance. Palmer was lost without Wallace and please will at least one of our players pick up when he does one of his runs, they all miss it everytime.
If I was gonna level any cristicism tonight it would be on Robbo. He didn't look interested at all and being the captain, that isn't good. McGurk also was poor tonight, he never picked out the right pass and was just frustrating all night. I would also seriously think about playing Zoom down the left and playing Black at left back who looked solid. We look so much more dangerous when he comes forward
Its good that they all drew tonight but you have to say that most of them will beat Walsall at home and that's why its a little disappointing. I'm just hoping that Wallace is fit for Saturday because without him, were not very good.
Robbo's had two shocking games in a row-if I had been the manager I would have taken him off rather than Stockton.I also think that he should not be captain as he seemed so concerned with everybody elses performances that he forgot about his own.
Same old same old isn't it? When things go wrong pick on the usual players like Harrison & Taylor. Harrison had a great 1st half and not a bad 2nd. Ash mis-places passes now & again but you know what? At least he tries to bring the ball out and take responsibility instead of an easy pass or just hoofing it. He is a big part of why our defensive record has been so good so lay off him and get behind him and the team. he's there to defend at the end of the day and he generally does it well.
Taylor is good at defending but his passing loses us so much of the ball. It really needs to improve as it causes us a lot of problems, thats a fact. Always 100 % behind the team, hence why its 100% OK to have an opinion be it postive or negative. Paying at the gate to go and watch gives the supporter that power
Bored and disgusted at the not real supporters of the club. We are top and have been most of the season. Who really thought at start that would be the case. Anyone who booed and always slags off the team go and watch another team.
Supporters critise there teams in every team in the league and at every league level in the world. Booing the team off probably was a bit OTT last nite, but individual player performances can be criticized or praised by supporters thats half the fun of being a supporter!.
The heart break for most at the moment is the fact we are top and this season we could so easily get promoted with our squad. There isnt too much quality in the league this season for one reason or another. And the past home performances are getting a lot of fans worried about letting it slip. A lot have been season ticket holders for many many years, and have seen the ups and downs and been there.
We all want the success of the 90's back, and we can go up this season. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to see other players given a chance if particular indviduals are not contributing postively to the teams chance of success. Its only cos we love the club that makes us so passionate about the players performances!
Yes but if you want to show passion show postitive passion some are to negative. all the players have been brilliant this season to get us where we are.
To really appreciate the good times you have to suffer the bad. In recent times we have suffered some appalling performances from players who did not appear to give a toss and inept management. This season we have had our share of luck, for a change, and have put in some excellent performances. Team spirit appeared to be really good with a real feelgood factor. The last couple of games have been a blast from the past where we can't seem to string two passes together and the players have little confidence in each other and arguing amongst themselves. Let's hope Ronnie can turn this round and bring the spirit and feelgood factor back. Having said that we are still top of the league and long may it continue.
We need some one in mid field to hold the ball and pass it around ,some good old fashioned long balls on the deck to the feet of Cassidy or who ever is leading the attack.
Jim Harvey or Liam O`Brein some one of that ilk. We seemed to be headless chickens in the middle of the park last night.
Robbo was not at the races last night nor on Friday .
Time for Ronnie to regroup trouble is we have not a lot to regroup with come on PJ open up your purse a little you can not keep hold of them white fivers for ever, not asking for much just a small increase for Ronnie.
If you are not happy with a player do you think booing him or ironically cheering will inspire a better performance next time or will it just wreck his confidence? The latter I would suggest. Yes people are entitled to their opinions etc of course they are but don't clap a player when he comes off rather than sarcastically cheer or don't clap the team off at the end. We are top for ***** sake. It's laughable that we are booed off! If we got promoted it would be amazing. We would probably come straight back down but rather than enjoy being there I know the boo boys would be calling for Ronnie's head after 10 games or so instead of being realistic and expecting us to lose more than we win.
Hoots Mon Those who cheered McGurks substitution particularly should be ashamed of themselves.
Some "fans" pick on certain players irrespective of what they do.One near me picks on Ash this year because the 2 he picked on last year,Welsh and Akins,have left.
You pays yer money and have a moan if you want.
P.S. Where is Banned Eric at the moment....awaiting his
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:11:21:17:06:45 by runcornrover.
I wasnt a one who booed last night. But to be fair Mcgurk is a very selfish player, on numerous occasions last nite and last friday and games before he takes the shot instead of looking for another option. Also Taylor layed into him last nite as he doesnt track back and help out defensively. The fans who pay and watch can see this and it frustrates them, it hasnt just been last night with him its been the last 2 seasons. Think most are just a bit fed up with his attitude on the pitch at times, and the fact we do have some good youngsters on the bench that deserve a chance too.
Its all basically frustration, we are top and we deserved to get there. Unfortunately the injuries happened and the replacements havent performed
The problem we have now, is the goals and quality service into the box has gone. The pace of our front line has gone, that;s why zoum's contribution in the 2nd half troubled them.
We have our first XI attack (except Robbo & Cass)injured,
What we have is other players that are just not good enough at this level.
Missing Wallace was something else, it showed how much we depend on him. He ix the link up player and we play through him. I think Ronnie got it wrong playing Harrison as he is not an attacking midfielder. Max Power would have a better choice, he likes to drive forward and links the passing and has a goal in him.
Zoum will start om Saturday, where he finished last night. Black will play at LB. If Bell-Baggie is fit he will play right and Robbo alongside Cole in the hole.
The players didn't deserve the boos and jeers.
Yes it was a poor performance and it is frustrating that it was a great opportunity to stretch our lead. But last season we would have lost that game. playing negative football in front of 3000+ die hards.
my first post but reading this, one thing annoys me, so what if we are top, means nothing at the moment, it was a very poor performance, fair do, Harrison and Ash where better of the players and so was Holmes and zoom. Booing made it clear they need to put in that extra 10% they didnt perform, how else are we suppose to tell them? twitter? they ignore most of fan posts anyway.
if we are to go up we have to beat teams like walsall. mk dons and the like we have to, at least, show them we can match them even if we lose.
Stevenage, Sheff Utd and Swindon away coming up, they have to improve asap for these as they wont be easy. pick up 4-6 points and we have overcome the toughest period and kick on.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:11:22:18:20:03 by AzuraeTRFC.
People could tell fans to improve, by articulating it, not going boooo.
If you boo a player, is it for his overall game, or a few crummy passes, or a bit of backpassing, or some dud shooting etc?.
Fans are entitled to articulate feelings to players, they legitimately feel aren't performing to previous standards, but if someone being critiqued is named and then slated for aspects of his game, it's more obvious.
Booing could be something other players, or even the manager, mistake as directed at them. If someone boos Mcgurk what's to stop someone like Harrison thinking he's the target?
If someone shouted something like Oi Adam, keep the ball better you wally, or Oi Ash stop passing it back so much for christ's sake; the players would get the sentiment better and it would be more clear how a fan felt.
Booing signals discontent, but not exactly what for or exactly who with.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
Azurae, I would suggest being top is more important than performances. If we play like we did on Tuesday and are top at the end of the season then I think most fans would be happy!With regards to booing do you not think that, given the fact that the team have given their all this season and wereand still are top, this buys them a little patience and support? Good supporters get behind their team more when things are going well. I am always off my seat in the paddock encouraging and prasing players but sadly I am often a loan voice.
Matt34 Booing is primitive, make a statement with words, then people are in no doubt what you're referring to.
and what do you think a football crowd is? it amuses me this forum, you cant make a statement with words as suggested as quick as a flash they are derided as stupid, and you cant make a primitive boo at a game because you are not expressing a statement.
RM summed it up best, he would have booed himself - and maybe regretted it later. once again people, football is an entertainment industry, if the crowd aren't entertained they are allowed to show their discomfort - and with the attendance back to "normal" id suggest those who were there to boo were season ticket holders and slightly more informed about tranmere than given credit for.
would the members of this forum prefer if the crowd adopt a roman gladiator style thumbs up thumbs down judgement on the game?
for what it's worth, if we had played for another 90 minutes i doubt we would have scored. sometimes it's just not our day.
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