2016/17 Season Key Dates


By Deadly Submarine
May 26 2016

Some early dates for your diary ahead of the start of the 2016/17 Vanarama National League Season….

 

 

 

 

 

 

With the 2015/16 season still a not too distant memory, the thoughts of fans of all Clubs up and down the country, will already be turning towards next season. Although much is yet to be confirmed in terms of upcoming events, we will continue to provide updated information about key dates related to Rovers’ season and we can start with two key dates to make note of so far….

JULY:

Wed 6th: Vanarama National League Fixtures Released

AUGUST:

Sat 6th: Vanarama National League Season Begins

As and when further dates become available, including FA Cup and FA Trophy round dates as well as potential play-off dates, we will update this list and re-publish it so stay tuned to Total Tranmere in the coming weeks.

2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Total Tranmere (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 12:44

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Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 13:58

so still 6 weeks to go till the big day when the fixtures are released.. we could have a bit of fun in trying to guess what our 1st game will be.. there are 46 possibilities, i will start off by saying it will be Borehamwood Away.



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Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Paz (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 14:48

York home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: coltran (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 14:54

Bromley Away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: martyd12 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 15:02

Dagenham and R away!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 16:11

North Ferriby away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 16:46

I have a Christening in Lincolnshire on the Sunday so from a selfish point of view, Lincoln or North Ferriby Away please!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: 2 the moon (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 16:55

A nice easy one will do. Jester at home 😂😂😂

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 17:08

Quote:
Deadly Submarine
I have a Christening in Lincolnshire on the Sunday so from a selfish point of view, Lincoln or North Ferriby Away please!

hi sub, I will keep a list of this and make it a bit of fun. just hope we have 46 willing forum members to join in the fun. hoots mon has picked north ferriby away so do u wish to go with Lincoln away or change your choice? I will do it on first come first served basis..as a suggestion for the winners prize, how about 3 free points for that persons prediction league. if u think that prize is a bit too much then I will come up with another idea for a prize.. so far we have,,

borehamwood away - hong kong rover
York home - paz
bromley away - coltran
dag & red away - martyd12
north ferriby away - hoots mon
Lincoln away or ??? - deadly sub
chester home - 2 the moon

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 17:10

does anyone know how to keep an updated list of this on the forum? I am hopeless with things like this.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Johntyponty (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 17:23

I'll take southport home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 17:33

I'll take Lincoln Away then HKR!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Old Rover (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 17:45

Wrexham home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: mini_andy (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 17:57

Forest Green away



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Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: TT Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 18:02

Also can't any points onto the Prediction League as all the scoring is done automatically based on people's Predictions!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: ste25yearsafan (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 18:10

Barrow away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: the kav (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 18:16

I will play the percentage game woking home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Ingleboro08 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 19:25

Forest Green away!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: mini_andy (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 19:42

Quote:
Ingleboro08
Forest Green away!

Oi, back off! That's mine. Don't make me come over there.......

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Hardly Irons (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 21:37

Dover away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: belmont63 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 22:33

The Acorn, Higher Beb Rec. Tough start though

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2016 22:54

Solihull

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 03:25

Quote:
Ingleboro08
Forest Green away!

sorry ingleboro, forest green away already chosen by mini andy.. choose again , thks.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 03:27

Quote:
Matt34
Solihull

home or away, matt?

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 03:36

thats about 14 done, only 32 to go.. competition rule~ once u have selected there is no changing.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Aussiepete (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 06:26

Guisely at home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: bheadlad (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 07:04

Braintree home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: jade-trfc (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 07:22

forest green home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Kenny_Crons (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 07:22

Guisley away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: sparky100 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 18:05

Woking away,.........revenge time and my nearest Conference side to break me in gently 😀

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Ingleboro08 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2016 18:36

Guisley home!
If not the first available team.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2016 08:17

Quote:
Ingleboro08
Guisley home!
If not the first available team.

guiseley home already taken..i will give u aldershot home.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: WWStandsure (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2016 09:50

Decent post Deadly, you omitted Pre-Season 'Friendly' matches though, I understand the Pool, Toffies and Trotters are just the 'big fish' more games to come yet I'll wager. Ones for the old diary for many to see the prospective 'new signings' in action eh.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: SierraCharlie (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2016 12:48

Eastleigh away.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2016 13:43

Quote:
hong kong rover
Quote:
Matt34
Solihull

home or away, matt?

hi matt, I will put u down as solihull home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2016 14:05

UPDATE

HOME

aldershot - ingleboro08
barrow -
borehamwood -
Braintree - bheadlad
bromley -
chester - 2 the moon
dag & red -
dover -
eastleigh -
forest green - jade-trfc
gateshead -
guiseley - aussie pete
Lincoln -
macclesfield -
maidstone -
north ferriby -
solihull - matt34
southport - johntyponty
Sutton utd -
torquay -
woking - the kav
wrexham - old rover
York - paz

AWAY

aldershot -
barrow - ste25yearsafan
borehamwood - hong kong rover
Braintree -
bromley - coltran
chester -
dag & red - martyd12
dover - hardly irons
eastleigh - sierra Charlie
forest green - mini andy
gateshead -
guiseley - Kenny-crons
Lincoln - deadly sub
macclesfield -
maidstone -
north ferriby - hoots mon
solihull -
southport -
Sutton utd -
torquay -
woking - sparky100
wrexham -
York -

I make that 21 so far, thks guys. only 25 to go. still have over 5 weeks till fixtures are released so plenty of time for those that have yet to enter to name our opening day fixture.. still haven't come up with an idea for a prize yet. at the moment it will just have to be a case of , give yourself a pat on the back and get the missus to cook your favourite dinner, if u are to be the winner, lol.. any suggestions on a prize??? an all expenses paid trip to hk is out of the question i'm afraid.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016:05:28:14:42:43 by hong kong rover.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2016 19:39

I was unaware of your response to me until now so yes I should have said Solihull away.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: goosed (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2016 12:56

Aldershot home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: TranmereFan (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2016 13:18

Dag and Red at Home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Armaghwhite (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2016 14:07

Torquay away, mix it with a short family break!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Mighty White (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2016 16:04

North Ferriby at Home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Rizla (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2016 17:09

Macclesfield away.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Owainsleftglove (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2016 22:39

Maidstone away...get those Astros out boys

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/05/2016 19:42

Astroturf eh. Good job that artificial surfaces are not commonplace, or certainly not unregulated, otherwise maybe clubs like Chelsea would replace their pitch with Axminster and redo it after every 1-2 home games.

However in Tranmere's case it might be floor tiles in the region of 1.99 SqM, or the cheapest possible from Walkers or Bogans, not the expensive stuff (Sm6).

At least Astroturf doesn't have the same reputation like it did in the 80's, for causing people physical concerns when they hit the deck.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: sydneywhites (IP Logged)
Date: 31/05/2016 06:16

Southport away please

Will be home for the first time in 5 years. Have a wedding in Cheltenham on the Friday but should be able for the Saturday. Forest Green would be ideal, mind

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: mb53trfc (IP Logged)
Date: 02/06/2016 10:03

Gateshead away for me- its only 20 mins from where I live.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2016 14:07

UPDATE

HOME

aldershot - ingleboro08
barrow -
borehamwood -
Braintree - bheadlad
bromley -
chester - 2themoon
dag & red - tranmere fan
dover -
eastleigh -
forest green - jade-trfc
gateshead -
guiseley - aussiepete
Lincoln -
macclesfield -
maidstone -
north ferriby - mightywhite
solihull -
southport - johntyponty
Sutton utd -
torquay -
woking - the kav
wrexham - old rover
York - paz


AWAY

aldershot -
barrow - ste25yearsafan
borehamwood - hong kong rover
Braintree -
bromley - coltran
chester -
dag & red - martyd12
dover - hardly irons
eastleigh - sierra Charlie
forest green - mini andy
gateshead - mb53trfc
guiseley - Kenny-crons
Lincoln - deadly sub
macclesfield - rizla
maidstone - owainsleftglove
north ferriby - hoots mon
solihull - matt34
southport - sydneywhites
Sutton utd -
torquay - armaghwhite
woking - sparky100
wrexham -
York -

I make that 28 taken, so still 18 left for those that have yet to enter to guess what our first game of the new season will be.

FAO goosed,, u chose aldershot at home which has already been taken so please choose again, thks.

just a reminder to all, that once u have chosen then u cannot change, otherwise it is too much messing around. thks.

still 12 home fixtures to choose from and 6 away to choose from.



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Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2016 15:00

Macclesfield town (away)

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2016 15:02

Quote:
Fiftyyearsarover
Macclesfield town (away)

sorry, it has already been taken. please take a look at the list in my post above and choose again, thks.



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Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Temple Road (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2016 16:38

Sutton Utd at Prenton Park ,Keep the Faith

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: scrambledeggs (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2016 17:00

Sutton away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: tranmerepete (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2016 17:06

Eastleigh home

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Eric01 Tranmere (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2016 23:18

Dover at home please.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2016 19:57

Torquay away.Nice easy game for me to reach and a good away destination in summer

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 27/06/2016 12:00

UPDATE

FAO goosed, you asked for aldersot at home which has already been taken, so ive put you down as aldershot away instead, hope its ok.

FAO devon exile, you asked for torquay away which has already been taken, so ive put you down as torquay home instead, hope its ok.

FAO fiftyyearsarover, you asked for macclesfield away which has already been taken, so ive put you down as macclesfield home, hope its ok.

UPDATE

HOME

aldershot - ingleboro08
barrow -
borehamwood -
Braintree - bheadlad
bromley -
chester - 2themoon
dag & red - tranmerefan
dover - eric01tranmere
eastleigh - tranmerepete
forest green - jade-trfc
gateshead -
guiseley - aussie pete
Lincoln -
macclesfield - fiftyyearsarover
maidstone -
north ferriby - mightywhite
solihull -
southport - johntyponty
Sutton utd - templeroad
torquay - devonexile
woking - the kav
wrexham - old rover
York - paz

AWAY

aldershot - goosed
barrow - ste25yearsafan
borehamwood - hong kong rover
Braintree -
bromley - coltran
chester -
dag & red - martyd12
dover - hardlyirons
eastleigh - sierra Charlie
forest green - mini andy
gateshead - mb53trfc
guiseley - Kenny-crons
Lincoln - deadly sub
macclesfield - rizla
maidstone - owainsleftglove
north ferriby - hoots mon
solihull - matt34
southport - sydneywhites
Sutton utd - scrambledeggs
torquay - armaghwhite
woking - sparky100
wrexham -
York -


so I make that 35 fixtures taken, so only 11 fixtures remaining for those that have yet to enter to see what our first fixture of the new season will be.. only 9 more days to go till fixtures are released so please hurry, many thanks.

RE-UPDATE - THESE ARE THE 11 FIXTURES STILL AVAILABLE

HOME

barrow -
borehamwood -
bromley -
gateshead -
Lincoln -
maidstone -
solihull -


AWAY

Braintree -
chester -
wrexham -
York -

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: roger mellie (IP Logged)
Date: 27/06/2016 16:18

York City away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 03/07/2016 13:08

hi all, there are still 10 fixtures available to see what our first game of the new season will be, but only 3 days to go till fixtures are released so am running out of time.. what i suggest, is that if u have already entered then you can choose 1 more fixture. I will do this on a first come first served basis. so the first 10 will have an extra fixture.. if a new entrant comes in within the next 3 days then I will give them priority first. eg if 3 new entrants enter before july 6th then they get priority and so the first 7 that enter for another fixture get that 2nd choice fixture, hope u get my drift, thks.. these are the 10 fixtures still remaining..

HOME

Barrow -
Borehamwood -
Bromley -
Gateshead -
Lincoln -
Maidstone -
Solihull -

AWAY

Braintree -
Chester -
Wrexham -


* please hurry guys , thks,

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: bheadlad (IP Logged)
Date: 03/07/2016 13:41

Braintree away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: bumhobo33 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/07/2016 15:07

Solihull home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: tranmerepete (IP Logged)
Date: 03/07/2016 20:04

Barrow home

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Goal Attack (IP Logged)
Date: 03/07/2016 21:25

Wrexham away

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Old Yeller (IP Logged)
Date: 03/07/2016 22:12

Home v Maidstone

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 04/07/2016 12:40

thks so far guys, only 5 fixtures remaining. remember if u have already entered u can choose one more fixture. need to fill these 5 fixtures up pretty sharpish now. first come first served , thks. these are the 5 fixtures left..

HOME

Borehamwood -
Bromley -
Gateshead -
Lincoln -


AWAY

Chester -

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Hardly Irons (IP Logged)
Date: 04/07/2016 12:47

Bromley at Home for me!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Paz (IP Logged)
Date: 04/07/2016 13:01

go on then, I'll take another

Borehamwood @ home

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 07:11

i will take gateshead at home as my second choice so only 2 fixtures left...

HOME

Lincoln

AWAY

Chester

so only 1 day to go guys.. anyone feel free to take these 2, thks.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: martyd12 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 08:44

Lincoln at home!!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 10:36

who wants chester away?

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Paz (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 11:11

For the sake of it, I'll take it as a 3rd choice seeing as no one else wants it!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 11:25

Quote:
Paz
For the sake of it, I'll take it as a 3rd choice seeing as no one else wants it!

LOL, thks paz and everyone else. at last, finally complete. i will post the full list later.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: mini_andy (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 13:21

So HKR, what's the prize? An all expenses paid trip to the fixture? It was your idea after all....

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 14:40

Quote:
mini_andy
So HKR, what's the prize? An all expenses paid trip to the fixture? It was your idea after all....

hi mini andy, lol. I said I would like to be able to do that but out of the question I'm afraid, lol. give yourself a pat on the back and get the lass to cook your favourite meal if u do win. I will buy u a pint next time I am in uk if u win, cheers and good luck.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 15:36

the final list..

HOME

aldershot - ingleboro08
barrow - tranmerepete
borehamwood - paz
Braintree - bheadlad
bromley - hardlyirons
chester - 2themoon
dag & red - tranmerefan
dover - eric01tranmere
eastleigh - tranmerepete
forest green - jade-trfc
gateshead - hong kong rover
guiseley - aussiepete
Lincoln - martyd12
macclesfield - fiftyyearsarover
maidstone - old yeller
north ferriby utd - mighty white
solihull - bumhobo33
southport - johntyponty
Sutton utd - temple road
torquay - devon exile
woking - the kav
wrexham - old rover
york - paz

AWAY

aldershot - goosed
barrow - ste25yearsafan
borehamwood - hong kong rover
Braintree - bheadlad
bromley - coltran
chester - paz
dag & red - martyd12
dover - hardly irons
eastleigh - sierra Charlie
forest green - mini andy
gateshead - mb53trfc
guiseley - Kenny-crons
Lincoln - deadly submarine
macclesfield - rizla
maidstone - owainsleftglove
north ferriby utd - hoots mon
solihull - matt34
southport - Sydney whites
Sutton utd - scrambledeggs
torquay - armagh white
woking - sparky100
wrexham - goal attack
york - roger mellie


thks to all that entered and good luck. looking forward to seeing the new fixtures. promise that I will buy the winner a few pints the next time I am in uk, cheers.

PS a few of us had a 2nd choice coz I was running out of time.

PPS someone elses turn to do this next season, only joking, ive quite enjoyed doing it really



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016:07:05:15:47:00 by hong kong rover.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Paz (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 16:32

PPPS Paz willingly threw one of his choices away as there's no chance in hell we'll have Chester away as first game of the season lol!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 05/07/2016 16:51

Quote:
Paz
PPPS Paz willingly threw one of his choices away as there's no chance in hell we'll have Chester away as first game of the season lol!

lol, I thought that myself paz. if it is chester away then I will take u out on the p*ss all night in Birkenhead mate, lol



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016:07:05:16:54:27 by hong kong rover.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Paz (IP Logged)
Date: 06/07/2016 10:40

*prays for a miracle*

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Paz (IP Logged)
Date: 06/07/2016 13:01

Well done Coltran!

Should be going to this again this year, had a great laugh with the Bromley fans last season

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: borowhite (IP Logged)
Date: 06/07/2016 13:08

Who came up with the idea of Guiseley away on Easter Monday - the Wetherby Whaler is going to be rammed!!!

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: Paz (IP Logged)
Date: 06/07/2016 13:16

FGR away on a Tuesday....effort haha!

Adam Dawson's return, 3rd game

Macclefield away again on Boxing Day (did they just copy and paste some fixtures?!)

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 06/07/2016 16:16

congratulations to COLTRAN, I owe u a few pints mate.

Re: 2016/17 Season Key Dates
Posted by: coltran (IP Logged)
Date: 06/07/2016 22:04

Thanks Hong Kong Rover. So how did I guess correctly our opening fixture? I gambled that the there was a greater chance of having an away fixture as we were at home last season (Woking).
Then I discounted the possibility of a local derby which took out Wrexham, Chester, Southport and Macclesfield. I didn't want a game against any of the favourites for promotion or any of the four newly promoted sides who would play us as if it were their Cup Final. That left about 12 clubs away so I went for a team where we won the corresponding away fixture last season so that's how I chose Bromley. In other words, it was a random selection.

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