Patience, a past value?


By Bob Ellis
August 22 2022

This isn't how it as meant to be. Not much exciting attacking football, new signings failing to have an impact, Tranmere at the wrong end of the table. Already there is a rumour that Mellon only has a short time to turn this around. Supporters are like drug addicts, the only fix that matters is three points, anything less and we crave, rant, see it all in catastrophic terms. The team has not started well, the obvious excuse is it's all down to our manager. 

Let's start at the back. Turnbull is one of the few signings who has made a real impact. Cultured, measured and calm. A real contrast to Clarke who was hot headed and bad tempered. The absence of Tom Davies is causing problems. Turnbull and Davies would be formidable. At the moment we haven't found a pairing that works at the centre of defence. Jameson had a nightmare in his opening game and against Newport. It seems he can't cope with physical teams. That's worrying but in keeping with the intelligence that was out there prior to his signing. Bristow seems to be going backwards too. This could simply be a sign that the players around him lack confidence. He did well against Gillingham and Accrington, but didnt make an impact against Newport. Frustrating when Declan Drysdale, ex Rovers, was on the pitch hinting at what could have been.

Midfield is also in a ragged state of disarray. Morris is a long term absence and won't be back until October. Chris Merrie got subbed on Saturday and our manager seems not to like him, we might not expect him to start a game for a little while. Apparently Paul Lewis came back to the club at his own request, his family were unsettled in Northampton. We have yet to see him make anything other than an average contribution. Josh Hawkes, a player who showed great promise when he was on loan, is now reduced to a cameo role as a substitute. He scored a great goal against Accrington, but other than that doesn't seemed to have settled since his permanent move locally. Lee O'Connor too seems out of sorts. He's capable of good games, but this season he hasn't shown enough to convince. 

Up from Kane Hemmings seems steady but unspectacular. His work rate is good, and he's contributed well in matches. However, there a sense that supporters respect him rather than love him. By comparison Eliot Nevitt seems to be adored by our fan base, but isn't scoring enough goals. I have heard some suggest that he may never develop beyond where he is. I personally wouldn't give up on him just yet. Our two other current forwards are injured. Mumbomgo is out for the next few games and Charlie Jolley is a long term absence. From what I have seen Mumbongo is far from the finished article, albeit it's hard to assess this when he has only had a few sub appearances. 

How much of this is the manager's responsibility is open to debate. If management is about maximising the resources at your disposal Micky Mellon isn't operating with a full kit bag. Yet the truth is that supporters appear impatient. We need to see improvements. Palios has shown loyalty thus far, a quality that is in short supply in the modern game. Mellon will need to start repaying some of that loyalty in the coming months in order to confirm Palios' judgement. We are in for a challenging season, but not necessarily a season where we challenge.

Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Total Tranmere (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 12:05

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Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Uptonrover (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 13:24

Bairstow?

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: WirralJim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 13:44

Some of these articles are utter tripe. Opinions purporting to be fact and facts that are wrong.
Turnbull is the stand out upside thus far. To present him as better than the guy who was ever present and got into both league selection sides is leaving reality behind, regardless of your views on arm positions few centre halves double as peace loving hippies.
O'Connor hasn't played hardly this year, yet the usual suspects are framing their next hate figure, missing Clarky and McD?
Bairstow was another social media hate figure until people ran for the hills recently, maybe a freudian slip there?

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Nicko1234 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 13:49

"At the moment we haven't found a pairing that works at the centre of defence."

Yeah, we are unlikely to find a "pairing" as we play with 3 at the back.

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Crazylegs Cranebird (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 14:12

Stand out forward has been our top scorer - own goals - with 2 so far!

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Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Zint (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 14:35

Think Oggie last scored away at Carlisle last season?

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Bored rover (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 14:36

When did we sign Patience

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: ALOTBSOL (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 14:54

Quote:
Bored rover
When did we sign Patience

It was on the cards…

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Whitefan87 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 15:50

Hemmings is a 12 goal a season player, and we cannot afford better or afford to sack MM.
MP has done wonders with the off pitch stuff but until we move onto the next phase, 5k crowds will not fund many fans expectations.
We have to wait and see but this season may be very difficult for fanbase especially those who want promotion.

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Pitou (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 18:27

Tranmere fans nowadays are never happy. they don't know any Patience as a whole ,seems the fans have not moved as one for years like remember when the crowd us to try to pick up the players, now we lose in a pre season friendly to Huddersfield and there boos .think instead of pointing fingers and mangers , players and owners , do what we use to do best a small community sounding like 40000 people are in PP.

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 23:19

Quote:
Whitefan87
Hemmings is a 12 goal a season player, and we cannot afford better or afford to sack MM.

If such things are true, then no one would have any problem finding accurate club account information, detailing Mellons managerial salary and how much surplus cash might exist to pay him off with.

The Palios' might be able to afford to sack Mellon but choose not to.

As for Hemmings, he has never scored exactly 12 goals in any previous season, yet some unnecessarily fixate on the number 12, but as their point is a pessimistic overview of Hemmings, then 12 can't be their lucky number.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: WirralJim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 23:24

Quote:
Matt34
Quote:
Whitefan87
Hemmings is a 12 goal a season player, and we cannot afford better or afford to sack MM.

If such things are true, then no one would have any problem finding accurate club account information, detailing Mellons managerial salary and how much surplus cash might exist to pay him off with.

The Palios' might be able to afford to sack Mellon but choose not to.

As for Hemmings, he has never scored exactly 12 goals in any previous season, yet some unnecessarily fixate on the number 12, but as their point is a pessimistic overview of Hemmings, then 12 can't be their lucky number.
Individual salaries are not in the accounts. Given his contract length, sacking would be a reckless gamble. If the budget is anything like competitive we gave already gambled very badly.

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/08/2022 23:25

Agreed individual salaries are never published.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: mogsy73 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/08/2022 10:15

Hemmings might be a 12 goals a season striker in this team which creates about 1 chance every 3 games for him - stick him in a decent team and I can see him scoring 20-30 - we dont need a new striker, we need creative players

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: Bored rover (IP Logged)
Date: 23/08/2022 13:49

Wonder if MM and Lampard went to the same coaching school

Re: Patience, a past value?
Posted by: ALOTBSOL (IP Logged)
Date: 24/08/2022 09:25

Judging by the injury list, I suspect a lack of patients will be key

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