Ins and Out 2013

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Comprehensive list Igwok, well done. God knows where you get all those details from or perhaps your memory is a lot better than mine.

Semper Sersum.

Not quite - the lads from the Warriors are to be included - need to track down some info first

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Good work, fella! As the season comes to a conclusion, the rugby will no longer be the focus and squad re-structuring/composition will come to the fore. Thanks for putting out some facts and informed opinion.

Doubtless, the Club will endeavour to manage the whole process for the duration of the summer, maximising the media exposure right up until the first competitive fixture of 2013/14. With the new Head Coach and Press Officer in place, let's hope we can "keep it real".

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It looks like plenty of opportunity for Shanahan to stamp his own mark on the team.

Act your shoe size not your age!

Seems a little bit aggressive - or is it out of context?

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Igwok
Not quite - the lads from the Warriors are to be included - need to track down some info first

Good stuff Igwok. Will you be adding another colour for new recruits?

Hang on, I've seen it in the key. A sort of dark green.

... Jack Andrews departure announced at End of Season do.

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Aaarrrrggggghh! But we can't yet say what team it is!

"How many more times,Ref?"

Pirates seen in Jersey !

Still no confirmation of the club, but here's the Herald take on Jack Andrew:

thisisplymouth

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The list is growing. I thort most of the squad were going to stay. Guess it gives Shanners chance to bring in his own signings ?

Why did our ladies team go en masse to Devonport Services ?

Jethro, the Ladies have stayed here, and barring unforeseen circumstances, will carry on as Albion. It was the Girls U15 and U18 teams that moved on.

I think jack will be heading to the pirates they are losing a few props

Statement from the club:

Plymouth Albion today confirmed that 24 year hooker Jon Vickers has signed for Championship rivals Nottingham.

Vickers who has 28 appearances for Albion this season played for the Championship XV against the New Zealand Maori. Albion wish Jon all the best for his future career.

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We seem very short on front rowers.
I hope we will not be relying on dual registered players who can be recalled at a moments notice.

I would imagine that Vickers signed for Notts before the news of their financial woes.

Good luck to him.

Shanners may have a bigger job on his hands recruiting than he at first thought...

According to Herald - Sam Matavesi, Ben Rogers and Paul Rowley have now signed up for next season...

Herald Report

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What about Tom, no news on whether he has signed,I think he is the best winger we have had since Tom Arscott.

Jack andrew to pirates

"Confirmation" that JA is on his way to CPs:

thisisplymouth

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seems like a few from the lower leagues could be heading our way.

From one of the Esher stalwarts on rolling-maul:

"Chris Elder to Plymouth Albion

Elder the big loss and a big gain for Albion. Excellent player with a big future!"

Nothing on Official Esher right now, apart from him replacing Arran Cruickshanks in today's final N1 game at Molesey Road...

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told you they were coming a few more to be announced shortly!!

More on Chris Elder "through the grapevine". Presumably he is Paul Bailey's replacement:

"Excellent signing for you. Was with Wasps in 11/12, released by them to our surprise. Big, quick, great hands and a good kicker. Has played 10,12,13,15 for us and may well make the N1 dream team. I think he is one of the best prospects at 20 that I've seen at this level. I presume Shanners hand is behind this signing!"

Sounds better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick...

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added his 'YouTube' CV above

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From the Herald

[www.thisisplymouth.co.uk]

Semper Sersum.

The skipper stays for another season:



[www.thisisplymouth.co.uk]

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A reassuring move - and full marks to RC for making the commitment to Albion.

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These departures may surprise some people:

[www.thisisplymouth.co.uk]

Semper Sersum.

BEVON ARMITAGE and Paul Roberts are the latest big name players to depart Plymouth Albion. See here

Oh no! Just as I was beginning to recognise the players they depart! Oh well have to start again!!!

I will be sorry to see Bevon go a real 100% player.
Paul's kicking was the problem this season. if we had a reliable kicker in another position he could have got by, but with no other option his future was on the line.

Likewise sorry to see Bevon go and to some extent Paul - I think he was put in a difficult position when kicking is not his forte.

Possibly some experience coming to arrive in the shape of Pale Nonu, although Redruth are also in the running for that signature.

Does seem like we will be shedding a lot of experience from the backs, but from the 'phrasing' does sound like the last of the departures. Let's see how wrong I can be.

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If I were to choose between Bevon and Nonu, Bevon would come out way on top.

Personally, I think just being a an enormous truck is not enough at this level.

So to date , positional wise we look a bit thin on

Props (more so if davy morton is not available )

Hooker

Back-row

fly half (Mr mugford available ???????) Cornish Chief could shed some light ????

centre

wing / fullback dependent on Louis & Declan ???????



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I don't see the back row as so much of a problem as the front row.

I got an impression that Bevan wasn't all that happy with the way some people have been treated, and he may have had some personality issues off the park with ' management '. I am not surprised he is going, but very disappointed.

We usually lose one third of the squad and with everything that's happened in the last 18 months, more changes are only to be expected. I have to say I am surprised at the number of times Debbie is quoted. Our CEO has never been that involved in these decisions previously ( so far as I know ).

'simples' GoD did not want you to know any thing.

Any way does it matter who makes and tells us. All I have heard on these pages in the past in the past is the endless moans 'nobody tells us any thing' make up your mind folks.

From rolling-maul.com, Dan Collier signed to Ealing Trailfinders.

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Good find SA - really liked Dan and had an unfortunate injury period. Look forward to seeing him back at Brickfields next season!

From rolling-maul.com, Keni has signed to Newton Abbot.

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"Confirmed" in the Herald:

thisisplymouth

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Tom Bowen and Louis messer

2 more for the pot

Declan Cusack and Harrison Tovey agree terms

Also Herald speculating on London Scottish's Dan Mugford.

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Very pleased about these two, I'm hoping that Declan can do a job for Albion that has been lacking in recent years for me.

Also when he and Rauri start talking in Gaelic he should have an advantage there as well.

Semper Sersum.

Inside centre / wing from Coventry ??????????

H.S.

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C'mon Albiiioooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Just seen an Esher player at the gym, (wearing full kit)by the looks of him a 2nd row. There are no team pics on their site ( its upto date,)so can't give you a name.

"How many more times,Ref?"

According to the Independent he was probably Chris Elder a centre who according to the Esher site is joining Albion, also mentioned were Pale Nanu ex C.A.B's who has been playing for Rotherham Titans for the last two seasons and we have also been linked with Dan Mugford, fly half, a former Ivybridge Community College currently with L.S. and he also played with Shanners at Cambridge

Semper Sersum.

Here's your H.S. as indicated, B.P.

[www.plymouthherald.co.uk]

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Two more for the mix sign up

Crib from the rolling maul site

"Good luck to Pale & family in Plymouth, I really enjoyed watching him for Roth where if you overlook the one thing he conspicuously can't do (go past people at pace) you get a tremendous defender, good hands, a bruising runner and a great teammate."

"Pale Nonu is a good signing for Plymouth. Albion consistently know what it takes to stay in this league, and by signing a player like Pale they prove that. He makes the hard yards and is a rock definitively. Its perhaps a signal that those expecting plymouth to play expansive rugby will be disappointed though."

"Surely Nonu can be an attacking weapon, getting over the gainline and attracting defenders (he's a big unit) and creating space for others to run off him. So not necessarily an indication that Albion won't be playing expansive rugby."

These are comments from other clubs and may give us an insight into the man, seems good to me.

Semper Sersum.

34 years of age , maybe closer to 35 ????

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As a footnote to the Oakley news the WMN provides the shopping list for the remaining 'wants':-

"Shanahan is still looking to bring in "five or six" more players to Albion, with a prop, one or two hookers, a fly-half, a full-back and a wing on his list. He hopes to have his squad finalised in the next ten days"

PS - does anyone know what has happened to Jamie Salter & David Morton?

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Salter still teaching in PLYMOUTH, imho not up to standard did little last year. Thought the 2 devon hookers in the Tamar cup showd that. Moreton worth having much improved last year.

Sam Hocking signs for Ealing

Good luck Sam

Interesting to read that Shanners is expecting Fairbrother, Cowen-Dickie² and Carrick-Smith to be back with us as dual registered next season from a total of 5 - but no mention of Slade (who was away so much playing for England U20 and Chuffs to be of any meaningful use for most of the season anyway) so I wonder who/which position the 5th player will be.



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Shanners spelled out his view of DR on Thu evening - they are "bonus players" and he "will not be dictated to by the loaning club" (especially as regards position). On all occasions, he would pick a 22 man squad to "win games" (including B&I ties). That seems to say all there is on the matter (which ain't a whole lot to be honest.)

He also made it clear that there will be no 2nd XV in the short term - loaning out to local clubs in lower leagues will be the way to get game time across the squad.

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You would expect players to move from the Academy to the parent club's squad - some sooner than others, and younger players to take their place.

To have the same players return, and more on our terms (including additional training days) can only be viewed as a bonus.

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I think after watching Henry Slade in the 6nations last year and some of his games for the chiefs he was never coming back this season.

"How many more times,Ref?"

Not exactly current, but an update on Rupert Freestone:

bbc.co.uk

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Charlie Walker-Blair (Exeter Chiefs) to sign after deal with Sale falls through?

plymouthherald.co.uk

Plus updates on injuries across the squad.

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Charlie Walker-Blair (Exeter Chiefs) to sign after deal with Sale falls through?
plymouthherald.co.uk

Plus updates on injuries across the squad.

C W-B is a quality player - a great signing if it is confirmed. All the best this season lads except when you are playing Jersey and hope to see you at Sandy Park next month and Plymouth in Feb. I've already booked my flights.

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