Can Chiefs stay 2nd?


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By Moorsman
November 26 2014

Can Chiefs stay 2nd at the end of this block of AP games?

Chiefs v Sarries

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Can Chiefs stay second at the end of this block of AP games?  Well the worst they will be is in fourth place as Tigers are 5 points adrift of that place.  

        1 Northampton 8 6 0 2 246 130 6 30
2 Exeter 8 6 0 2 256 145 4 28
3 Bath 8 6 0 2 250 154 4 28
4 Saracens 8 5 1 2 233 173 3 25
5 Leicester 8 4 1 3 164 179 3 21

It might seem a bit odd that I'm not asking if we can go to the top but Saints are unlikely to get fewer than 4 points as they take on the struggling Welsh.  However Rob Baxter's squad will be going all out to preserve their standing in the table at what should be a well attended Sandy Park.  Chiefs have only beaten Sarries twice since joining the Prem but our games are generally hard fought encounters.  The stand out thing for me in games v Sarries has been their line speed in defence.  This is one area that I think the Chiefs have really stepped up a gear or two and Saturday's match could be a bit of an attritional affair.  Having said this both sides have back lines capable of running in tries as well as two of the best place kickers in the league.  So the penalty count needs to be low or Steeno or Charlie Hodgson are likely to make them pay, not to mention Sladey for the long distance attempts.  Sarries will be missing Kruis, Barritt and Farrell who are on England duty but will have Goode available as like Jack Nowell and Thomas 'The Try Scoring Tank' Waldrom he was released.  As far as Chiefs go this can only be good news as Jack is back on form following his return from injury and TTTE will be looking to continue his try scoring start to the season.  I've already picked out Steeno and TTTE as key men on Saturday but I think Will Chudley has made a major contribution to the Chiefs excellant start to the season.   

Key men

Will Chudley, Exeter Chiefs           Exeter Chiefs Gareth Steenson kicks a conversion during the Aviva Premiership match at Sandy Park, E           File photo dated 13-09-2014 of Thomas Waldrom, Exeter Chiefs.

I must admit to feeling a little nervous about this match but that's not unusual for me!  I was nervous about the Quins and Wasps games and see how well they turned out :-) 

Finally

Just thought I'd add a few words about 2 players who've had to 'retire' through injury this season.  Firstly James Hanks who's testimonial dinner I attended last week and secondly Neil Clark who announced his retirement this week.  I've really great memories courtesy of these guys who were part of our Championship win and elevation to the Premiership.  I wish both well in whatever they choose to do and I'm sure they both have what is needed to succeed.

hanks v saints  Exeters Neil Clark scores a try during the Heineken Cup, Pool Five match at Sandy Park, Exeter.

 

Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: thechiefstribe.com (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2014 14:16

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Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2014 19:54

They are beatable as a depleted Saints side proved last week on their patch.
We will have to be on top form defensively and take every opportunity on offer.
Agree the key players for us will be Steeno, Chudders and TTTE but a full 80 minutes from the whole team is required.

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: SaintED (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2014 21:21

As a Saints fan I hope you can do it and to be honest I think you should be able to do it. You're at home, have a great team basically unaffected by AI call ups and Sarries are in a bit of a slump at the moment. It's a couple of games know that they haven't played an especially bright gameplan. It won't be easy as they still have lots of quality but I think Chiefs have more than enough talent to do it. Stopping Vunipola and George running and kicking behind their blitz defense would be a good start. We did well with the later not so well with the former!

I like having Chiefs in the top 4 it's good for the AP to freshen things up smiling smiley

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Chief in Hobbiton (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2014 22:51

Good review Colin and I'd like to Echo your sentiment regard James and Neil.
The way we are playing at the moment and with a full squad available there has never been a better time to beat Sarries and put behind us last seasons dissapointment. Won't be easy that's for sure and we need to take every available opportunity.
We can beat them and keep this good run going.
And thanks SaintED......we quite enjoy being up there too

Time for a pipe of Old Toby!

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
Date: 26/11/2014 23:40

Considering we (Quins) seem to have blown our load this season I hope you guys do, and win it all. would be great for the Prem if you did.

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: boveyjones (IP Logged)
Date: 27/11/2014 07:08

Great write up.

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: 3 wheels on my wagon (IP Logged)
Date: 27/11/2014 19:33

No reason why we can't

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Dawlish chief (IP Logged)
Date: 27/11/2014 21:24

Quote:
3 wheels on my wagon
No reason why we can't

Perzackly +1

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Poking With Sticks (IP Logged)
Date: 28/11/2014 09:02

On a related note, looking at previous seasons, we need around 15 wins to be in the play-offs (sometimes 14 has been enough). Nearly half way there.

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: chief pee wee (IP Logged)
Date: 28/11/2014 11:22

It will be down to the team on the day. If they can raise themselves and collectively hit top form, there is no reason why Exe can't win.

Come on Exe and the 16th man

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 28/11/2014 12:36

Lets us the 16th man get behind the team collectively - if one stand chops we all chop!

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: ExTeddChief (IP Logged)
Date: 28/11/2014 14:35

Can't make this one(birthday party in Axminster which I committed to when I thought this one was an away game) but if we can keep our form going it'll be wonderful! Anyone seems beatable now but we can't get cocky!

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Dawlish chief (IP Logged)
Date: 28/11/2014 19:24

Quote:
ExTeddChief
Can't make this one(birthday party in Axminster which I committed to when I thought this one was an away game) but if we can keep our form going it'll be wonderful! Anyone seems beatable now but we can't get cocky!

There's only 2 things to say about ExTeddChief Stupid and true!

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 29/11/2014 07:07

Unlikely we will be second after this weekend because Bath beat Quins with a WBP last night. I reckon Saints might just scrape a win against London Welsh to retain top spot so if we win against Sarries we will be 3rd!

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Moorsman (IP Logged)
Date: 29/11/2014 08:11

Yep hadn't factored in the 'Burgess' game

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Zyder head (IP Logged)
Date: 29/11/2014 08:29

This is probably our toughest game to date.
A win is not as unlikely as winning at Saints but that is what makes it tougher,a bit more expectancy. The longer we spend at the top end of the table the more teams will not underestimate us and raise their game against us.
Sarries are very well drilled and I expect a reaction after their defeat last week but our confidence should be high so I think we can sneak it by 5-7 if we nullify their back row.
C'mon Exe

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Grandstand Viewer (IP Logged)
Date: 29/11/2014 11:10

As usual it depends on the pack and a great deal of credit must go to Rob #2 for this seasons improvements. Our back row is a match for anyone now and if we can hit our lineouts I reckon we may do it. Sarries will be looking to improve on last weeks game so expect a toughie!! Dont think theres going to be a lot of points scored.

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 29/11/2014 11:30

Quote:
Shy Ann
Dont think theres going to be a lot of points scored.

Looking at the weather I reckon it's a perfect day for running rugby so there could be a fair few points scored by both sides! Lets hope Chiefs score more!

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: clalan (IP Logged)
Date: 29/11/2014 11:39

A bit like the championship, as long as we end up in the top four, then we will taste our first playoffs.
The blitze defence by Sarries has been a bit shaky of late, But our defence has come on leaps and bounds and is a match for anybody on our day.
Tough game, but unlike previouse seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if with came out on top.



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Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Pinhoe_Chief (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2014 15:46

judging by the current Saints LW score, we will be third.

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: tulls (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2014 11:16

just to help through a fun Monday. Looking back at the last 4 seasons, on average teams need between 14 and 18 wins for 1st -4th place or 65-79 points. Based on current table (7 wins 32 points) we need 7 more wins or 34 more points for top four. looking at the fixtures, I recon a further 7-9 wins, so achievable.

any way back to work.

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Thrupp artist (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2014 13:53

I'm sure you'll make it - securing the home semi tie will be important. Probably a slightly greater than usual points total will be needed this year because of the London Welsh effect (unless they can somehow win a few).

Re: Can Chiefs stay 2nd?
Posted by: Bathovalballer (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2014 16:59

If Exe continue to play like they did on Saturday, especially if they win all their home games, they will definitely finish in the top 4 and could be higher.

Exe took on and definitely beat the best pack that Sarries, who have one of the best, could field and, as forwards win matches and the backs dictate by how many, they will on that form certainly be there at the death.

If you saw the Premiership highlights show and David Flatman talking about Exe and the performance of young Ben Moon in particular, it was quite revealing. Flats was still playing under 2 season's ago, does know a thing or two about forwards and forward play and is very knowledgeable for a pundit, and still retains many close contacts with current players and their thinking and perspective on the current situation.

I watch Exe when not at Bath, and I have noticed the Exe pack have stepped up this year and have got stronger and better, and even faster if that is possible. They do things instinctively now as they are used to playing at the highest level. Continuity of selection and generally everyone staying fit is also very important to this level of performance. I just wonder if TJ can get back in the side and you still have the three youngsters Conlon, Simmonds and Skinner with the admirable White and the excellent Scaysbrook also to come in.

It just looks at gets better and better for Exeter Rugby.

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