The Route to the Quarter Final at Somerset!


Debut Boy
By Grockle
May 16 2009

Young Max Waller makes his one day debut against Kent at Canterbury as Somerset book their home quarter final in the FPT.  Omari Banks gets the lurgy and Kent get rolled over giving us 11 points out of a possible 12 with one to play tomorrow at Lords.

v Kent FPT @ Canterbury Saturday 16 May 2009

Scorecard

An excellent 45 run win with good perfromances with the bat from de Bruyn, Langer and Banger followed by good ball work from Trego and Thomas.

v Middlesex FPT @ Lord's Sunday 17 May 2009

Scorecard

An on/off win working to a rain affected D/L total chasing a BIG Phil Hughes generated score of 341.  Excellent cool work from the same three batsmen saw us home with 11 balls remaing and although there was a complaint about mis-reading of the Power Play rules under a D/L affected game the result stands and we have a home draw in the QF's with a game to go.  Peter Trego in the wickets againg with another 4.

v Scotland FPT @ Edinburgh Wednesday 20 May 2009

Scorecard

A workmanlike win on a more difficult wicket where we struggled to just over 200 with only Arul and Craig passing the 40 boundary.  Scotland needing 4.4 an over started well but collapsed against Zander and Alfonso slumping to a 37 run defeat.  Max Waller got another chance to show what he can do.

The Route to a Quarter Final at Somerset!
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Date: 16/05/2009 18:58

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Canterbury Tales
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 15/05/2009 16:27

Kent, who are three points behind us with three matches to play, have named a squad of 12 for Canterbury tomorrow:

Key, Denley, van Jaarsveld, G. Jones, Kemp, Tredwell, Mahmood, Parnell, Ferley, Cook, Joseph, Hockley.

Weather forcast: showers, some heavy.

Meanwhile, they are negotiating with Parnell, whose six-week contract as overseas player ends next Wednesday, to return for the remainder of the season after the World 20/20.



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Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/05/2009 16:31

He seems to have been somewhat up and down with the ball. I know he's had at least one very good knock with the bat, though.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: samaithai2 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 10:38

Waller in for Banks

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 10:54

Commentary is on Radio Kent

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: samaithai2 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 10:57

and radio somerset

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 11:07

I'm amazed they knew there was a game on.
Has football finished?

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 13:54

Wayne Parnell?
Isn't he a darts player?
Seems like he's hitting the 180's now.
Must have been a snorter to get rid of the best all-rounder in the land.
Just have to do them with the ball,Pete.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 14:09

Hmm, we looked to be on for 30 more than this earlier on. Bit of a collapse at the death :-(

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 14:09

He didn't pick it it seems. Sloppy end to the innings although Charl has just heaved one over midwicket!!

"Charl Willoughby upsets the Kent bowling taking 15 off the last over!! Shock Horror"

(Sm72)



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Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 15:44

Straight and full - excellent spell from Charl. Don't know what they are waiting for...Max Waller probably although they are leaving it late and may have misread Max being in the side.

(Sm72)

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 15:49

Two down now. Sounds like a brilliant run out by Phillips.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 15:52

Are you listening to the Kent commentary LoL?

(Sm72)

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 16:10

Come on lads,one more and we're down to the ferrets.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 16:12

I'm listening to the Somerset commentary as I thought bias was obligatory.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 16:32

Trigger,the best all-rounder in the land,strikes again.

Bring on those ferrets.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 16:36

I ways just about to ask you to take a wicket, BJ, but it seems you knew that already.

Good start by Fats.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 16:39

It's Waller.
I thought it was Weller.
I nearly said he had them in a Jam.
And then I saw the master's words.
And Fats.
It shall be.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 16:54

It's that man again. Are you paying attention, BJ?

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:00

My computer was acting up again,a quick punch sorted it out.

Stunning from my boy,it's about time everyone started acknowledging that he is different class.

What more can I say?

Plenty probably.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:06

I'm going to sit right down and write my Fats a letter...

Well done young man.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter



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Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:06

His first wicket well done Waller

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:07

James, Have you noticed just how good Pete Trego is?

Well done to the lad.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:11

Brilliant from the boy,get writing LoL.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:16

I know Pete has his doubters.

I do however value their opinion.

Even when they're so terribly wrong.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:17

... he certainly aint misbehavin' on his debut.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:22

And another one down,another one down,another one bites the dust.
Great Captaincy.
Well done Mr Langer.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:26

Seems a pretty steady performance by Alonso. Very useful.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:34

Does Alonso play for Liverpool as well!

I've just managed to get the score, which is a really pleasant surprise. Marooned in New Forest with poor phone signal and internet connection, but everything else wonderful.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:39

Four for Trego. Time you started to show some enthusiasm, BJ.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:44

I lost the f key. Apologies for my language.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:53

Bad news - seems Mark Turner has a groin strain that will seriously curtail his cricket this season!!

(Sm72)

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:54

Yes, that is bad news.

Let's hope the great man is fit to bowl soon.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:54

All is orgiven.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:55

Did we win the toss?

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 17:56

Well there's always a bloke called Jones sitting waiting for a chance

(Sm72)

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:02

Thanks or that, LoL.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:15

Sounds like another more than decent performance. Far more by Charl, Pete and Al(f)onso on the bowling side.

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:16

Stean Jones?
Does Al(f)onso drive a Renault?

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:18

Awesome performance by Willow who effectively won this game for us with his first 10 overs. No idea how Rob Key is going to lead England in that worthless bun-fest in that kind of form?

Good to see Waller pick up his first wicket and good death bowling, as usual, from Alfonso.

Home QF secured.

Wondering what changes we might see for Lord's?

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:24

I'm taking my kit.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:35

So are my wife and I, but only to gain access to the posh bits!

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:41

I would say we have a home draw, only Warwickshire can equal us on point and only if we lose the last two matches (which we are not going to do).

Let’s hope for good weather next Saturday.



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Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:51

The radio guys say we have a home QF

(Sm72)

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:54

I understand that if we end with the same points as Warwickshire, we will head the group as we have already beaten them.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Canterbury Tales
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 18:54

Very wise taking your kit LoL. I shall be sat behind the bowler's arm, as usual, and look forward to sitting back with my smoked salmon sandwiches and watching you perform.

What do you bowl?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 19:03

Bit dissappointed to hear that Banks had the lurgie.

I had hoped that we'd just decided to be bold and give young Max Waller his head. Certainly hope to see him, first-hand, at Lord's tomorrow.

Overall, I'm absolutely stunned at the turn-around in our one-day form. I did not expect this at all. Hugely commendable.

I think a couple of teams in our group have been handicapped with the odd absence - e.g McLaren from Kent, Kartik from Middx, but our wins have been so comprehensive that we have to have confidence that we can go on from the group and take a real run at going all the way in this thing.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 19:17

We too suffered from absences: six of our batsmen never got a chance to bat at all in our first three matches.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 19:23

Yes, most unfair that!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 19:31

According to the other site the tickets go on sale to members, online, now!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 20:14

There is indeed a chap called Jones waiting in the wings.

I'm waiting for the call up now,LoL can open the bowling,I'll be first change.

Great performance today,let's hope it pleases everyone.

Now,that would be something.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Kentish Townie (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 21:37

Fantastic performance! I thought we 'd be in with a shout in the one dayers. Our powerful batting line up and containing bowlers are perfect for this form of the game; taking wickets not obligatory!

Willo's figures are sensational while it's great to see Trego being given a chance to open the bowling.

Also a great chance for young Max Waller; suprised that God thinks it's sad that Banks got the lurgy (unless he's being ironic), young Max deserves his go.

Only downside is the injury to Turner; what is it with these bowlers who can't stay fit? What sport of training regime are they on. Surely Jones must be recalled now..?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 21:46

Just a few FPT stats.

Most runs. Marcus Trescothick 396

Highest Ave. Zander de Bruyn 216.00

Most sixes. Peter Trego 9

Most wickets. A Thomas 14 (Trego joint second 13)

You will notice Somerset have two bowlers at the top of the wicket takers.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 21:51

Another great one day result.

Can't ask for more than this !

Grizzzly

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 22:07

So Alfonso isn't as invisible as someone suggested he was on some thread recently then. One day stuff really is his forte. He was our only performing bowler in this stuff last year (not including Charl who is consistent everywhere but had a differnt role in the one dayers) and he's going about doing it in that quiet but impressive way he's done everything again this year.

(Sm72)

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2009 22:32

KT, I assumed that AG meant he was sorry that Waller had been picked only because of injury, and not as of right.

AG would have picked him ahead of Omari, I believe.

Naturally I retain my traditional posture of neutrality!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 10:14

Quite so, Bobstan. When I saw that Waller was playing, I simply assumed that we'd decided to be bold and give him his head.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 10:16

"So Alfonso isn't as invisible as someone suggested he was on some thread recently then."

Alfonso also did well in the CC last year, too, (esp vs Yorks in both games,) I'm somewhat surprised that we've not seen much of him in the CC this year. And I'd suggest that the bowling 'results,' obtained in the CC so far should mean that we'll see Thomas get a crack soon?

By the time the hit and giggle garbage is in the books, Alfie will certainly have had a ton of bowling to get through.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 12:27

Good throw by Phillips a run out.

Oops wrong thread



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Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 12:48

Does anyone know what time the game will start next Saturday?

I'm trying to work out what time I'd need to be at Paddington for.

Anyone seen any long-range forecasts, yet?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 16:58

The long range Taunton forecast for next Saturday is scattered showers.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 21:10

10.45 start, gates open 09.00

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 21:23

Thanks, Botham.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 21:25

Tickets are £20. Glad I'm off to Cornwall.Think that price will put a few off.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 21:35

It may well, Rob, but at least it's at the weekend, when the working population are mostly free.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 21:40

Except for those who work Saturdays of course - the whole retail sector. Sunday might have been better but a QF is a QF. The time frame just doesn't give many people the opportunity to get time off

(Sm72)

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 22:03

I'm in the retail sector and I don't open on Saturdays (or Sundays), unless the price is right! Sunday is an excellent choice apart from the Clergy, as parking is much easier.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 22:23

You work for yourself dude - haven't you noticed?

The whole of Taunton will be open next Saturday QF or not.

(Sm72)

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2009 22:53

Haven't I noticed, what!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 09:21

I doubt £20 will put too many off, with the form that we have been showing. I hope not, anyway.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 09:58

I don't know what people currently pay for ninety minutes of Premier League football, but twenty pounds for six or seven hours of high quality cricket sounds like very good value to me. Unfortunately I cannot be there.

Incidentally, my Sunday at Lord's cost a mere nine pounds, including the price of a coffee. Not bad for more than seven hours.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 10:02

I'd happily pay the £20 for the ticket: but the £60 for diesel, £30 for a B&B and £several hundred for wifely permission make next Saturday unmanageable for me.
Should be another win then! winking smiley

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 11:32

My day, apart from motoring, cost me about £25 including lunch for two and a few bevvies, so again excellent vfm. I also found a foc parking spot right outside the ground. I was on the Westway, within 10 minutes, so a good journey back, as well.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 11:40

If anyone needs another valid reason not to go (aside the £20 price), then here's one: I just got my ticket.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 12:11

Do you have a numbered seat, or is it ground admission?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 13:48

Admission only

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 15:28

Did you pay using plastic and if so, did you pay a £1.50 handling charge? I tried to buy a ticket online, but there seems to be a handling charge of £1.50, which seems ridiculous when we print the tickets on our own computers.

The EBC tickets cost £30 each (with no tea and biscuits!).

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 17:45

No, rang up and got them to do it. Did pay a couple of quid for postage, but the whole process seemed better than a) printing my own ticket (my printer's in the attic, somewhere, probably) or b) queueing up on the day.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 19:08

I think it fair enough to charge a handling fee, but this should be mentioned at the outset, not when completing the purchase.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 19:45

send a cheque for £20, 1st class and no handling fee

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 20:22

No tickets will be posted after 1300 today.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 20:46

Last time I applied by post, my letter was mislaid and I ended up in the Lower Compton rather than the Grandstand. I think I'll pay the £1.50

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 18/05/2009 20:55

not sure there is a lower compton at taunton, think you are getting 2 games in advance there!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 10:12

The Beeb has unveiled a very specific weather forecast for Taunton on Sat;

"White," cloud.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 10:22

Sorry to be the class dunce, but do we know who the possible or likely opponents are for Saturday?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:12

No, but we should do by tonight. It depends on the results of todays matches and then the draw. We play one of the four second-placed teams.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:18

The second places are still open and will be decided with the final matches except for Sussex in group C.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:21

Somerset 34 for 2 Trescothick and Hildreth (0) out.



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Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 17:14

Does anyone know if one is meant to physically cut-out one's on-line ticket so that one has something resembling a normal ticket, or will it be sufficient to just wave the piece of paper in someone's face?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 18:51

We have been drawn at home to Sussex.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 18:53

So it's.

Essex.
Sussex.
Middlesex.
Nottingham.

The draw soon.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:04

Nice one, Mike!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:11

Nice one Botham, you must have posted while I was typing my post.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:16

The full draw

Quarter-finals:

Gloucestershire Gladiators v Nottinghamshire Outlaws

Lancashire Lightning v Essex Eagles

Hampshire Hawks v Middlesex Panthers

Somerset Sabres v Sussex Sharks

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:28

Quote:
AGod
Does anyone know if one is meant to physically cut-out one's on-line ticket so that one has something resembling a normal ticket, or will it be sufficient to just wave the piece of paper in someone's face?

I suspect that if the home-made ticket has a barcode on it you'll be safe, but if I were you I'd call the SCCC office.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:34

happy with sussex, would have preferred middlesex though!no hughes they'be a doddle...

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 10:01

Was very glad to have avoided Essex as there's always the possibility that Kaneria could be the difference in any given game.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Fiddlesticks (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 11:10

Hopefully our guys will show up and play well on the day.If they do i think we are better than Sussex and will win. Never seen Sussex live before so looking forward to Goodwin, Wright and Beer (the player and the drink)!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 11:18

Beer is a wrist-spinner. Whilst I doubt that we will pick Waller, it would be fascinating to compare them.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Fiddlesticks (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 11:39

Looks like we need to set the record straight with sussex in the one-dayers;


[www.sussexcricket.co.uk]

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 12:26

Yes, our recent record vs them is not great.

I'm sure Grockle will remember a home game two years ago (I think it was) when the comp was running on a league basis.

It was, possibly, the most frustrating SCCC loss that I can remember. Sussex made a good score, but Banger and Langer set off at a helter-skelter pace and it looked like we would win at a canter. Then Langer played an absolutely ridiculous shot to Mushy's second ball and everything started to go wrong. It still looked okay with Ian and Cameron, but then White pulled a RMJ long-hop to deep backward square, Ian got himself out too and we just collapsed in a heap from what had appeared a very strong position.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 12:57

Team for Saturday?

Is everyone expecting Willow and Phillips for Turner and Waller as the only two changes?

Is there any chance we might be bold enough to pick Waller instead of Banks as a wild-card selection? I highly doubt it myself but it would, of course, be an enormous boon to the confidence of the young man were we to do that.

Or could we go the other way? I'm not sure I can remember the last time that there was appreciable assistance for a spinner on one of Mr Frost's one-day tracks..... Might Banks be omitted in favour of an extra pace option, or even an extra batsman?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 13:07

An apology if this has been already posted I have been so busy this morning with the estate agent, no time to read all the post.

Somerset’s match is on SKY I am so pleased for those who can’t get to the ground.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 13:09

That's good news for those that won't be able to be there, provided, of course, they purchased one of Mr Murdoch's dishes.

Watching in a pub is unlikely to be a great option unless there is no sport on the other channels, as few pubs, in my experience, are happy to leave a county cricket match on the screen all day (more's the pity.)

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 13:20

All round my house.Cheap admission only £15.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 13:42

I don't think there's much football on Saturday (one of the play-offs only?), so should get plenty of Taunton on the telly.

I'm booking the sofa downstairs...

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 13:50

Quote:
AGod
Yes, our recent record vs them is not great.

I was reminded of this yesterday when a close friend of mine (from Sussex) said that if he recieved a phone call half way through Saturday afternoon to say that Somerset were charging onto victory (as he did two years ago), then it would follow that Somerset would shortly collapse and Sussex would go to the semi.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 14:00

If it had been me on the phone to him, I can't say that I would have said differently. It all looked so very comfortable and then...er ... it didn't.

Hopefully those that were playing will remember that day and it will help to quash any chance of complacency...

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 16:34

There will also be ground based commentary on the net if you want to listen to the totally unbiased version of what is going on.

I assume the BBC will be floating in unless there is some Bristolian footy interest in some play off for the South Western Summer Boot Cup or the Landrover Espace Shield or something like that.

Three audio commentaries!! Remember when we didn't have one?

(Sm72)

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 16:47

I think Bristol Rovers Under 14s are playing the Torquay United Ladies' under 16 in an exciting friendly, so probably no Beeb...

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 16:48

Keep it quite Grockle the BBC will not need much of an excuse to stop what little coverage they do now.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 16:59

As it's on tv I won't bother taking my laptop. I'll leave the pr to Grockle.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:34

Could you turn the volume up as I'll be in Cornwall where no cricket commentary ever goes.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:36

It'll cost you,Rob.Send a twenty quid note to me and I'll sort you out.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:39

That's cheap.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:55

No,no,no.
That's budgies

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 21:38

Stick to the day job Jim.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 22:16

I've now bought my ticket. And they even tried to charge £1.50 for use of a DEBIT card. I told them it was outrageous! And paid with cash.

And now I could have watched on Sky TV. Oh Bother!!!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 22:48

I pay 22p for each transaction a customer uses a debit card for, or 27p if it's a customer not present deal. I don't pass this on. It's outrageous for SCCC to charge £1.50.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:23

just another way of getting money out of us.

bet they sell us cans for £3 too which they probably purchase at 30/40p on mass.
guaranteed we wont be allowed to take a drop into the ground, the health and safety aspect wont wash either as they sell cans that could be mis-used the same as those yu could bring in yourself

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:23

In all the transaction I have ever made not once have I paid a service charge, have I been lucky or do very few businesses pass on this charge.

Is there no regulation on how much can be charged or can they please themselves.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:45

It's what is known as greed Mike pure greed.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 00:43

Greed?

Welcome to the 21st century.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 07:58

Sadly I shall probably be unable to follow Sturday's match and will rely on the rest of you to cheer extra loudly in my absence. A suspected homicide at my accommodation early this morning forces me to take a Scotland-bound train with immediate effect and I shall disappear into the Highlands uncertain as to when and where I shall reappear - but certain it will not be before I can satisfy HMG that our national security can once more be guaranteed.

May I rely on fellow contributors to say nothing of this to anyone, not even to each other.

In my absence I trust BJ will accept temporary and deserved promotion to Acting Ridicule Monitor.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 08:11

May I be the first to say nothing about what LoL is doing on Saturday. No question mark. No question.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Will the Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 08:12

I see Lol's buchan his responsibilities by not attending and should take steps not to use such an excuse.

I also cannot attend due to a prior commitment, although I would have gladly paid £20 plus handling to be there. As the prior commitment involves lunch , my second favourite pass time, I have mixed feelings about the day.

However my chum John will be attending and will buy all my grockleite chums beer. Course I haven't told him this yet

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 09:18

Does anyone know what the Sky game is?
Cheers

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 09:22

Nice on Will, perhaps you could inform him prior to the game.

LoL - if you need help locating the steps, think 'river thames'.

Tuffers - as I understand it, the Sky game is the Taunton one.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 09:27

Well, I'm looking forward to my trip to Taunton and watching the game, £20 ticket or not.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 09:31

It's going to be a classic, we're going to win by an innings and 300 runs, or something.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 09:42

...and the weather is set fair for Sat.

Bring it on!

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 10:11

You say that, Bloke, but is it a really a result pitch?

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 10:54

It can be anything you want it to be, Mc Tractor.

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 11:02

According to Sky Sports website TP it is the Lancashire game start 1200

Re: Quarter Final at Somerset!
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 11:36

Quote:
Tractor
You say that, Bloke, but is it a really a result pitch?

Well, just been down to the ground and stuck my key in the cracks around the crease. I'd say we're looking at a finish by tea in the third quarter. That is on the assumption that Taunton has indeed not killed cricket by then, in which case I'm not sure I want to watch baseball all day tomorrow.

Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:45

Looking showery in Edinburgh this morning. Lets hope we get more overs in than in the Kent game!
That type of game is the sort of match Scotland can win. I'd like to say the only type, but I don't want to hex us.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:47

Arul needs a good bat. It is imperative.

I'm a bit fearful of the law of averages, in that all three of our most experienced batsmen have been on great trots and all that.... I'd almost take them failing today to get it out the way ahead of Saturday (on condition that Arul, Craig and James rack them up!!)

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 10:38

Cricinfo seem to be suggesting that there is a BBC Somerset commentary on this game. Lovely that there is, but this is a dead rubber - why not spend money on a more crucial game?

Moan over, I shall try to listen discretely at work.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 10:45

My understanding of the word "rubber" in a sporting context is that it refers to a series of matches rather than one match in a series, but as ever I am being swept aside by the tide of contemporary usage.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:00

Banks and Waller both in, I see.
Scotland called correctly and put us in.
Turner also plays.
Willoughby and Phillips the men from Sunday who make way.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:25

Well Arul has his chance now to bat for 42 overs!

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:37

Glad to hear it, FE!!

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:09

James H seems to have taken a turn for the worse lately

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:14

Does anyone else wonder whether Waller and Banks may have been included in the same side, chiefly to allow for a direct comparison, with each man bowling on the same pitch versus the same opponent?

Of course, it's possible that Scotland have suddenly contrived to produce a Bunsen Burner, but I would be rather surprised, were that the case.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:15

This is not so easy.

82 for 3 Kieswetter the last wicket.

Suppiah and de Bruyn are batting.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:20

A reasonable period at the crease for Craig, though. Keeps him in reasonable nick.

I'm not sure any sides have found batting easy up there, so I'm not concerned by the score, at present.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:36

Zander gone too.

As I said at the top, happy for the experienced players to get their 'law of averages,' failure out the way today, rather than it occurring on Saturday.

If he can keep it up, I imagine Arul will get plenty of plaudits from his captain for toughing it out in what, presumably, are not facile batting conditions.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:42

They can't fail at Taunton AG - batting paradise - anyone can make runs at Taunton.

(Sm72)

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:43

Quote:
AGod
Does anyone else wonder whether Waller and Banks may have been included in the same side, chiefly to allow for a direct comparison, with each man bowling on the same pitch versus the same opponent?

I don't.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 12:58

Silly me, Grockle, I forgot about that!

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Fiddlesticks (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 13:14

Well i never! Mr Banks hits some sixes. The first time i remember him doing this for us.Good for you lad...

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 13:16

I think he hit some at Edgbaston in the T20 last season?

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 13:19

I wonder if the outfield is rubbish (i.e. very slow)?

We've hit an unusually high ratio of 6s to 4s and I wonder if Arul and Banks both took the aerial route out of frustration with the outfield?

Not a great team score, but the main thing that I wanted to see - plenty of time at the crease for Arul occurred and with good results for him.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 13:40

Could be some useful time at the crease for Alfonso, too, in case he has to bat on Saturday (hopefully not.)

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 13:41

I don’t think Middlesex are able to progress to the next round.

If Warwickshire win today they go through and if Kent win they will be level on point with Middlesex, but as I was told the other day it is then decided on the results of the two teams against each other, Kent beat Middlesex twice so they will go through.

Edited to correct error.

Sorry I made a mistake they have won one each.

So it will be all about the Run/Rate.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:05:20:13:56:06 by Mike BOS.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 13:49

Not true, Mike.

Kent thrashed Middx.

And..

Middx thrashed Kent.

The head-to-head series is tied, therefore run-rate will be the prevailing decider.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 14:07

Already corrected AG.

I noticed my mistake almost immediately.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 14:18

How fortunes - and playing conditions - can change.

At Taunton nine days ago, Scotland`s South African seamer Jan Stander recorded the worst FPT bowling analysis of the season by the huge margin of 21 runs - one for 106.

Today at Edinburgh, he took 3-45. And his victims? Tresco, Hildreth and Langer.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 14:24

But Taunton's a bowler's graveyard, cj-m. Didn't you know?

I wonder whether Jan took more pleasure in the easy three, or the hard-earned one.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 14:31

I read that Stander had at least one (and I think it might have been two?) catches dropped off his bowling at Taunton. Banger was dropped off him, I believe.

However, Stander was, himself, also guilty of at least one dropped catch, I believe.

Had he taken 3 for 106 (with the two catches being held) one might argue that those would be 'better,' figures in the context of the game than 3 for 45 here?

But that's assuming that Scotland find batting very hard, too i.e. that this will be a low-scoring game.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 15:01

Looks like Scotland are going to give us a really good run for our money at this early stage of their innings.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 15:04

Yep - doesn't seem a dead anything to them does it?

(Sm72)

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 15:13

Not so far, although I seem to have succeeded in hexing them to lose a wicket. Another success for Zander. He's had some good bowling run-outs in this competition, so far this year.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 16:13

Max Waller is coming on to bowl, good luck.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 16:17

Looks liken a great spell for Zander. Could be a good time for Waller to come on, as they wil presumably have to take him on.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 16:32

Looks like the two South Africans are the only SCCC bowlers to have figured out how to bowl on this Scottish pitch.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 16:46

Time for Mr T to return me thinks

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 16:52

Well done skipper Nailsea.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 16:57

Nice touch Nailsea.
Calling for "Mr. T" means that any one of three makes you look like a genius! winking smiley

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 17:32

Great for Mark Turner to take the last wicket, but Thomas has to be the hero of the day. Marks are awarded as follows:

Mr T 10/10 - great innings and mean bowling
Mr T 4/10 - rustiness showed, but a consolation wicket
Mr T 3/10 - out first ball and looser bowling than usual

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 17:34

Job Done.

Particular credit to Craig, Arul, Alfonso and Zander.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 18:17

And Pete.
Just for turning up and looking good.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: doc hennessy (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:03

Middlesex qualify with an inferior run rate because they have more wins

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:35

Well, Scotland bowled pretty well today and caught their catches. All of their (three) slow bowlers seemed to get assistance from the pitch and we struggled to get on top of them. I might be mistaken, but the one that got trigger seemed to turn a mile.
It seemed a wicket for extreme patience and selecting the right ball to hit. A lot of batsmen lost patience and got themselves out on both sides. Zander hit a sweet reverse sweep 4 and then tried to repeat the shot the following ball and was rather embarrassed! Langer never looked to be on top but seemed determined not to get out. He did survive a difficult chance to backward of point off a top edge though. His face was a picture as Arul and Omari gave it away.

The outfield was fine, but the pitch was slow, which made piercing the field hard work.

We fielded superbly on the whole, a couple of dodgy moments from the skip and one minor blemish from Omari aside.

Their batters looked more able to strike the ball cleanly, but Alfonso and Zander really strangled them. A number of them got out loosing patience, notably Hamilton, Watts and Watson.

Borgas batted really well, but just ran out of partners in the end (tho the required rate was 10). Stander struck a few good blows, but tried to run a second that Borgas (rightly) refused and failed to get back before the throw.

None of the lower order Scots looked capable of even staying at the wicket and allowing Borgas to have a swish to try to get them closer. A county 9 10 and jack, rather than 3 bunnies might have made it closer.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:38

Cheers,Eb.
Always so much better to hear it from somebody who was there.
Did Tractor behave?

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:02

(Mc)Tractor was mostly seen sitting in the top deck of the pavilion at the other end of the ground to me and seemed pretty quiet most of the day.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:54

I bet he wasn't drinking top deck though.
I reckon he'll have had his share of Irn Bru today.
Is it really made from girders?

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:23

If he was quiet, perhaps he was asleep!

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 19:04

Now back from Edinburgh let me add a few thoughts. It was a good days cricket. I thought our fielding was much sharper than last season. The pitch was the sort that I used to play on - good club wicket but the ball wasn't coming on to the bad.Arul batted very steadily too slow for normal cirsumstances but right for that game until his rush of blood. If looks could have killed !!! JL's face was a sight to behold. Turner was very quick by the lloks of it. The out field was dampish until after lunch and the ball didn't run across it. I was sat sort of fine legish at ground level. Such was the slope that that you could only see the chest and head of the fielder at long off on the boundary. Nice little ground, friendly people,a nd if Stander hadn't run himself out it could have been a lot closer still.
A good win all told.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: sammy woods (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 20:57

Also just back from Edinburgh.Good professional performance on a tricky slow pitch and slow outfield.Great hospitality from the locals who are very knowledgeable about their cricket.A bonus to this was Deuchars I.P.A.at£1.29 a pint in Wetherspoons!

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 21:36

Did you bring some back Sammy?

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 10:19

Yep, another very professional performance, started well, a bit expensive at times, but gradually increased the rate throughout the day. Didn't look too good at the start but still ended up with a similar result to the previous game.

The cricket was quite good too.




The Red Blubber in Scotland.

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 12:43

With all the recent posts about Hallam and his scrambled arms, I couldn't help but notice that Turner appears to have scrambled legs in his run up.

btw, glad to hear he (HM) is still doing well at Lord's! He was my first Somerset Hero!

Re: Dead rubber in Scotland
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:23

Is that scrambled legs on toast?

Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Fiddlesticks (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:37

This could be a big issue. i though we had taken the power plays twice....

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Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:39

Oh my god.

It's hard to see how the ECB can reject this?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:41

I wonder whether Mr Rose might turn round and say we'd rather give Middx the 2 points, than have to fit in a replay between now and Saturday?

But, I suppose, that would not be fair on the others.

Presumably, we would not be permitted to field a deliberately weakened team for the same reasons?

This is most inconvenient.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:41

It's the Umpires fault,not the teams.
They'll just have to accept a mistake was made and get on with it.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:43

I agree it's the fault of the officials.

But I can see why Middx are thoroughly unhappy.

Once it was announced that 4 of the final 6 overs or so were going to be power-plays (which is what they said on the radio, it became all but inevitable that we would prevail.)

I can't really conceive of how the ECB can refuse Middx a replay?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:43

If games had to be replayed because of mistakes by officials we'd still be mid way through the 1948 Ashes or the 1976 Five Nations.
Mistakes happen.
Stop whinging and get on with things.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:44

The Middlesex captain was on the field when these events took place; he could have drawn the umpires' attention to what was happening, but it has been said that current players are often those who know the least about the rules and laws of the game.

If the match has to be replayed it would have to be between now and Saturday (probably on Friday) and it would make no sense for Somerset to risk injuries to their best players. So what would we do? Put out a weakened side and risk censure for that?

I guess the ECB will say it's all too late now.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:47

I assume the number of power-play overs depends on some arcane re-calculation, involving the D/L rules.

I'm not even 100% sure if it's the umpires that make those calculations or if some other ECB official is responsible for making it, and then relaying the info to the umpires.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:48

Maybe a certain A R Caddick would be fielded in a replay?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:48

I agree with LoL. It would seem it was an umpiring mistake and I do sympathise with Middx (I'd be agree if the boot was on the other foot), but I suspect there's insufficient time for a replayed game (unless the QFs are postponed - for which tickets have already been sold).

I'm sorry, but I suspect little can be done.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:51

Enlighten me on this please.

Which power plays are we talking about, bowling power plays or batting power plays?

If I remember correctly Somerset were given four batting power plays overs after they restarted, that is one less than normal.

Or am I getting something wrong?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:54

Batting power-plays, I believe.

I think you remember correctly - we were given 4 power play overs after the re-start.

However, some of our correspondents here said - at the time - that they thought we'd already had our batting power-play?

In other words, we might have called for the same power-play, twice.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:57

Four officials at these games aren't there?
If they can't get it right between them, I'm afraid it's hard cheese!
At the very worst, if the result is invalid it should be a "no result", one point each; no replays, no forfeits.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:58

That is odd, the commentators never pick it up and I would have thought even somebody on here would have noticed it.(Sm26)

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:59

On the other hand, I guess it's 30 years since we got kicked out of a competition - the powers-that-be at Middx HQ must think it's high time we got punished again!

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 13:59

I suspect they will wait until tomorrow before deciding. If Kent beat Warks and the NET r/r is not bettered by a whole lot, then Middx will qualify in second anyway so a replay would be pointless and achieve little. It would also bail them out. We had secured first after Saturday anyway.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:02

The last time we got kicked out, it was well deserved!

No question of that this time, though.

I'd be happy with FE's suggestion of one point each and, if it would take them through, I suspect Middx would concur.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:03

If the match had gone the distance I believe we would have won comfortably.
That somebody in officialdom messed up is not our fault.
I really have a problem with whingers.
And this Cordington fella most certainly sounds like one of them.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:06

Quote:
The last time we got kicked out, it was well deserved!

..........he said, uncontroversially!

Did we not, in the style of an MP with a rent bill, ask for clarification on the rules in advance?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: samaithai2 (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:06

If it has to be a replay why not just 5 overs of power play's each. The only bugbear then would be the Somerset traveling.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:08

"Did we not, in the style of an MP with a rent bill, ask for clarification on the rules in advance?"

Yes, I believe Mr Rose sought clarification beforehand.

But I fail to see how that makes it different to what the MPs have done .... i.e. within the rules, but very, very much against the spirit of things.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:13

I agree, old boy.
It's just that that is one of the handful of issues which can provoke very bi-partisan responses around here.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:15

Good stuff, FE.

I look forward to hearing any attempts to justify Mr Rose's conduct that day...

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:20

I believe there is no problem here.
My understanding was that we actually took 3 of the alleged extra batting powerplay overs at the same time as 3 of the Middlesex bowling powerplay overs.
I wish people would try to keep up.
Off to Bonnie Scawtland now.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:26

Is that "official," Tractor?

Or based on what you observed at the time?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 14:39

Did we win the World Cup in 1966 ?

Did Maradona score with the hand of God in 1992 (or whenever it was ?)?

Too late.

Get over it.

Good bye & good night Middlesex.

Grizzzly

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Ronnie sabre (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 15:18

Tractor, if I see you tomorrow I'll buy you a beer/cider/whatever.

Ronnie

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 15:25

So will I, but my long distance eyesight is not what it was.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 17:52

its a non starter.
umpires make mistakes all the time, its the game.
what next an lbw gets given out which tv then proves not out, do we then replay the game?
its just hard luck im afraid, no way they can replay it, no way at all

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Brother Of (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 18:11

Got a funny feeling this game will be replayed,especially if Warwickshire beat Kent tommorrow.That will put them on 9 points 1 ahead of Middlesex.
If kent win it will be down to run rate,so there lies the only chance of this game not being replayed,Kent not getting a better run rate than Middlesex.
Come on Kent,win by 1 run or 1 wicket!!
Dont think the boys need an extra game.

COACH

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Haringey Racer (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 18:19

Quote:
Brother Of
If kent win it will be down to run rate,so there lies the only chance of this game not being replayed,Kent not getting a better run rate than Middlesex.

A washout would also see Middx qualify - Warwickshire would then have 8 points and 3 wins, whereas Middx have 8 points and 4 wins. First tie break is wins (although why a win and a loss should count as better than two washouts is logic that escapes me).

Of course any replay would be without Hughes who is due to fly home tomorrow.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:05:19:18:20:00 by Haringey Racer.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 18:21

Quote:
CricInfo
The ECB, however, have rejected the request. "After consideration and following an approach from Middlesex, the England and Wales Cricket Board have decided to uphold the precedent that umpire errors cannot form the basis to declare a match null and void," a statement read. "ECB has great sympathy for the position in which Middlesex has been placed but a replay cannot be ordered in these circumstances."

Here.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 18:45

sense prevails.
sorry and all that but unpires make mistakes all the time, its part of the game.
we'd have still won anyway...

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 18:50

What if Somerset had played their batting power play before the second reduction of overs?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 19:11

Quite sad that Cordington made a fuss,it has marred an excellent game.
You get beaten,take it on the chin and get on with it.
Mistakes happen all the time,making a song and dance just makes you look like a bad loser.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 19:23

I think Middx were well within their rights to ask for it to be looked at, but I understand that little could be done in the time available and ECB would want to avoid a precedent.

HOWEVER, I would like to take up AG's monstrous allegation that Somerset deserved to be kicked out of the B&H 30 years ago!!! I remember it well - we were cheated by the hierarchy at Lords and no mistake.

I've got to rush off to a meeting, and I know I've written about this on Grockles a few times before, so I can't expand now. Suffice to say, IMHO, we checked with Lords that it was within the rules, they said yes, we declared - then got disqualified! I can't see the justification for that, and haven't been persuaded otherwise in the last 30 years.

Must rush now cat firmly settled in pigeon-loft...(Sm14)

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Haringey Racer (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 19:37

Quote:
SheptonPaul
Suffice to say, IMHO, we checked with Lords that it was within the rules, they said yes, we declared - then got disqualified! I can't see the justification for that, and haven't been persuaded otherwise in the last 30 years.


And the Commons Fees Office said that MPs' expenses were within the rules, MPs submitted their claims and then...

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 19:43

then...the Speaker (who's in charge of the Fees Office) resigned.

I take your point, HR - if the Fees Office run a system of expense allowances where you are encouraged to claim up to a certain amount knowing they will let virtually anything through, then the system stinks. That doesn't excuse MPs claiming for moats, chandeliers, changing lightbulbs and so on, but it does encourage it.

Anyhow, Somerset were robbed - I know it in my heart!

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: BarmierKev (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 20:56

This is what I put on MTWD

I thought something odd at time and commented it on thread of game. I just thought rules were bad not that they got it wrong.

Shame coaching staff or captain didn't spot error at time.

What is definite , for those who were there can verify, those 3 extra power plays were crucial and almost certainly made difference.

A replay not practical in any way.

I feel due to severity of error, result should be null and void and we are definite victims of injustice.
[i][/i]

I think Tractor would be in favour of replay.

Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele



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Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 21:16

tractor wouldnt want a replay, he's in scotland and wouldnt make it back in time.
maybe we'll meet again in the 1/4's anyway...

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 22:04

A "No Result", one point each, is probably the fairest solution.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 19/05/2009 23:24

This actually opens up all sorts of thinking. The power plays(the 2nd bowling one and the batting one )can be taken at any time. If they have been taken in the first 20 overs then any subsequent adjustment because of rain cannot take them into account. If you think it might be rain affected are you better if batting to take it early or not take it if you are bowling? Anyway, the ECB have ruled and we did have 11 balls to spare anyway which was good for another 20 runs if needed. Well, off to bed ready for a drive to "sunny"???? Edinburgh in the morning.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Ged (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 06:45

There is no doubt in my mind that Middlesex have a right to feel aggrieved in these circumstances.

None of us know the extent to which Middlesex officials tried to get this matter corrected on the day itself. Be that as it may, the umpires made the error and Middlesex got the wrong end of it.

However, I cannot see how the ECB could do anything other than respond as they did; they have accepted the error and apologised but stated that matter cannot be revisited.

I fully understand why Vinny Codrington wrote to the ECB and requested that the match be revisited, but I also fully understand why the ECB said "our fault, sorry, but no remedy".

I think Vinny has taken some uncalled for stick on Grockles, btw. There is no doubt in my mind that the Somerset Chief Executive would have written a similar polite letter if the circumstances had been reversed. It's called "doing your job".

There is a lively thread on this subject on MTWD with a simialrly mixed bag of opinion - I have also cross- referenced this Grockles over there:

MTWD Thread on the Replay Question

Anyway, Kent and/or the weather might make the entire point moot on Middlesex's behalf by stumps today!

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 07:51

The Best of luck to you too Ged. Sure as eggs is eggs, if the boot were on the other foot I would feel aggrieved, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation. I trust that we will meet in the final, where - after a very good game - Somerset will win.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 08:51

I go back to my earlier post when I ask what if Somerset had taken their batting power play before the second rain stoppage; nothing could be done about that situation.

Best of luck in getting through to the next round Middlesex.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:35

"its a non starter.
umpires make mistakes all the time, its the game.
what next an lbw gets given out which tv then proves not out, do we then replay the game?
its just hard luck im afraid, no way they can replay it, no way at all."

I would say there is a difference, though, WSM, between a mistake being made in a decision regarding a known law (dodgy LBW decision) and a portion of the game not being played under the correct laws/rules.

Still, seems like the ECB are saying that the two situations are, indeed, analaguous.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:36

It's the equivalent between a goal being incorrectly awarded after the ball had not crossed the line in soccer vs a game being played and it subsequently transpiring that one goal was smaller than the other!

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:41

It's not being replayed,the correct decision was made.
Move on.
Or maybe sue the ECB if it all goes wrong against Warwickshire.
That seems to be the modern way.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:42

"I've got to rush off to a meeting, and I know I've written about this on Grockles a few times before, so I can't expand now. Suffice to say, IMHO, we checked with Lords that it was within the rules, they said yes, we declared - then got disqualified! I can't see the justification for that, and haven't been persuaded otherwise in the last 30 years."

Had we been allowed to get away with it, it would have set a precedent which would have meant the whole concept of run-rate would have had to be scrapped as a tie-breaker and forced the TCCB to come up with some other tie-breaker. After all, other people would just copy what Brian Rose did.

It would have set a precedent for totally short-changing the cricket-watching public, too. Do you really think it was fair to the fans that turned out? What about away fans - talk about a totally wasted journey.

And it was monstrously against the spirit of the game as it denied Worcs the chance to compete in a manner that would have allowed them to have overhauled us.

Now.. legally speaking, it may have been that the law was on our side. But it's also on the side of all those MPs who had their expenses cleared by the Fees Office. Does not mean it's right and does not mean they should be allowed to get away with it.

If the boot had been on the other foot in this instance, I would have been astonished had any SCCC fan said 'oh, that's fine, nowt wrong with that.'

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:45

I also agree with FE - the fairest solution is to void the match and award one point each - reflecting the fact that it is far from certain who would have won had the error not occurred.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:46

Of coruse, before the pedants point it out, I should clarify my football analogy above by saying that it's the equivalent of the goals being different sizes only if the sides did not change ends at half-time (or the goals were switched at half-time)!!

A bad example, I know!!!!!!!!!

A better example might be one team playing with 12 men for a portion of the game.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 09:57

Quote:
Had we been allowed to get away with it, it would have set a precedent

Not necessarily true, of course.
The change to the Laws (or is it playing conditions?) regarding declarations in limiyed overs matches did not have to be made to act retrospectively.
Perhaps a truly progressive governing body would haveeffectively said "Well done Rosey, you've found a loophole and exploited it........but we're closing it from now on".

Not that I dispute your reading of the ethics of it one little bit.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 10:08

Yes, I should have said "could," set a precedent.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 10:32

Thanks Ged for expressing such a graceful view of the matter. Middlesex were indeed unfortunate and have reason to feel aggrieved and I will be very pleased if they come second in the group.

But I repeat my original point that Udal, a very experienced campaigner, should have been aware that the rules were being infringed, and do not understand why the Middlesex management, if they were aware of the problem at the time, could not send on the Twelfth Man with a message for the captain.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:42

For those who noticed - so did we. The Papal Legate has legged it! :-)

(Sm72)

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:42

One is tempted to suggest that this will make everyone more aware of the D/L rules in future... although similar things have been said before after other D/L related foul-ups and there still seem to be few players who want to take responsibility for learning the rules properly.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 11:57

I would suggest that the the PowerPlay rules, which relate to the number of overs available, have nothing to do with the D/L rules, which relate to revised targets. The latter are quite complicated, as poor Dyson find to his cost, whereas the former are based on simple pro rata calculations - what some of us used to call Mental Arithmetic in our ancient schooldays.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Beeamazed (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 18:59

I don't know what all the fuss was about...We were always a shoe-in for the Quarters (Sm100)

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:04

You also get vfm prices at the Rose Bowl, Beehappy!

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:18

Well it's nice to see that they are offering some incentive to go out to the middle of nowhere to sit in a concrete bowl and then wait for hours to get out of it afterwards.

The only way to prove to the South West economic analysts that they've got it wrong at £20 is to not buy the tickets at that price.

Unfortunately for all the complaining they probably haven't got it wrong and the place will fill up and they'll make their money. If not then the semi might be cheaper if we get that far (and it's at Taunton).

Seems it's not only the pitch that's killing cricket

(Sm72)

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:32

Quote:
Grockle
If not then the semi might be cheaper if we get that far (and it's at Taunton).

if?

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 05:55

I am pleased that Middlesex have made it to the Qtrs, and look forward to the Final at Lord's.

Re: Replaying Middlesex game?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 12:09

Right-o!

FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: geoff_k (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 18:25

I know that the Rosebowl has a bigger capacity than the County Ground but why are their members tickets £7.50 and ours are £20?

Even their prices for non-members are less than £20.

How much did those magic pendants cost?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 18:38

I think Somerset will have to rethink their prices, to me the crowds have not all that good so far.

And with more seating capacity it is better to fill those seat rather that half empty fill them because of the price of the tickets.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 18:39

I quite agree, Geoff. It will be interesting to see how many tickets we sell. We'd expect this type of game to be a near sell out.

I've always thought that Members should be charged less than non-members.

Somerset are charging premium prices, which I feel is very disappointing in these times of recession, but maybe their judgement will be proved right.

I considered not going to this match, which is something I'd never have done, not so long ago, but I feel not enough is being done for our Members at the expense of excellent facilities for the players.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:27

To make it clear what I meant by "rethink their prices", if the crowds are not coming in the gates something may have to be done.

Lets hope for a full house.

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Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:30

Quote:
geoff_k
why are their members tickets £7.50 and ours are £20?

Because we're going to WIN

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:32

im amazed to learn this.
i thought prices for these were set by ECB.
If not then £20 is ridiculous.
I'll be amazed if we have a sell out Saturday based on this.
Surely its better to have 8000 in paying £12, than 4000 paying £20.
The more people, the better the atmosphere, and from a money point of view, more people = more beer/food/shop sales.
Almost hope the crowd is poor so club have a rethink.
We are one of the most expnsive counties for daily ticket prices as it is

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:39

Do you really think that's expensive?
It's more than that to see a run of the mill rugby match.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 19:41

not that bad, just in comparison to hampshire at £7.50, especially when already having membership

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:01

I am glad I will not be able to attend.£20 is a lot especially when on a limited budget.I would have given it a miss at that price.
Surely members should at least get in at a reduced rate.
As for your rugby Jim I wouldn't pay a quid for it!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:03

totally agree, members should get some form of discount, even if its £15 compared to £20.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: rambling sid (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:07

I'm thinking of paying up on the day. Don't fancy forking out the dosh to see it rained off. I presume from what's written above that I should be able to get in. Is this a reasonable assumption.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:10

I wish I could be there, £20 or not!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:25

i would say yes a reasonable assumption, be very surprised to hear of a sell out pre saturday, sure club will let you know how ticket sales are going is asked.

im dubious of their press releases re tivkets as last year all 20-20' were billed as sellouts but ground certainly wasnt full, allocation of members seats is an issue there i know which wont be the case this time

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 20:57

Fair enough,I'm not very good on pricing.
I know that I paid £65 to get into Tats at the Cheltenham festival more than a decade ago.
And it took over an hour just to get a pint in.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:20

Lancashires price is £10.Why the big difference?
As usual we will never know and just have tp put up with it.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:34

Suppose lancs and hamps have bigger grounds so think more people at £7.50/£10 is better than fewer at £20.

No compensation for us Somerset fans who have to pay the £20 if we want to go.

Is quite a difference mind, guess we'll get no explanation as to why we are double the other counties

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:37

There will definitely be tickets available on the day, suggesting ticket sales aren't as good as hoped for.

I feel we are being 'ripped' off and if the policy continues, I may well be happy watching on Sky.

I have made my feelings known. There seem to be very few advantages in being a member. The main advantage for EBC members is being able to book a car park space, but we pay through the nose for the privilege.

The ground is now big enough to enable folks to pay on the day, so unless one is able to go to many matches, it will be cheaper to payg.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:46

suppose saturdays attendance will show us all...

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:50

How much are scorecard/programmes for FPT games.I've given up buying them now as all I want is a list of each teams not a book of drivel and adverts.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:50

Quote:
SheptonPaul
I wish I could be there, £20 or not!

Guess what...........................................................................................I gree with SP!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:56

£2.50!!!

for info, kent did a scorecard for 50p at canterbury.

middlesex did a scorecard for 60p.

why can we not offer such an option instead of £2.50 for all the adverts?
to be fair though for the 4 home games there were 2 scorecards in each so i suppose if you used both it worked out £1.25 per game

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 21:56

Rob I think they have been £2.50 I am not positive because I don't by the programs either.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 22:04

I can't wait for LoL to get his apartment sorted then we can all have a terrific view at no expense.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 22:05

no expense, appartment is free is it?!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 22:08

No you pay for the flat, and the free view pays for the flat in about 200 years.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 22:09

Free booze, 3 course meal and high tea as well but no biscuits.
A very generous man is LoL.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 22:16

charge less than £20 and some may come in rather than the ground!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 22:57

It's all well and good posters on here, who can't get to games very often, saying they'd willingly pay £20. That's not the point. The point is SCCC are charging much more than other counties and give no incentive to members or those willing to gamble on the weather and buy their tickets in advance.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 23:02

good point well made.

see the club are making big notice that tickets WILL be available on the gate, a good sign ticket sales arent progressing well enough for them to fear a sell out pre saturday?!?!?!?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 23:24

I'm not making any statement of intent,well not to my knowledge anyway.
I've just compared it to other sporting events.
A full 50 over match can last the whole day,compared to a football match @90 minutes or a rugby match @80minutes.
The fact that those events are considerably more expensive tells me that it's not over-priced.
The fact that other counties chose to sell at a lower price is their prerogative.
I couldn't afford it if it was half the price.
Just my take on it.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 23:28

Correct, in comparison to other sports it is good value.

Its just hearing other counties are charging less than half that we are doesnt seem right.
We already pay our membership, most have to pay travel and parking costs to the ground each time on top etc.

Lets hopw the match goes the distance and ends with a Somerset victory

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 20/05/2009 23:49

I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement.

If all I had to worry about was forking out £20 for a fantastic day at Taunton I'd be the happiest bunny on the planet.

I know that doesn't make it any more acceptable for some.

We just see things differently.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 01:06

Nice perspective Jim.

All this rain talk is getting me worried.

It's a shame I had to pay at all, as a member, but a day watching Somerset at the County Ground for £20 seems a reasonable transaction in the grand scheme of things.

Especially when the Emperor gets a double-hundred etc etc

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 01:15

If the talk of rain is getting to you then the answer is easy.
Either don't talk about it or don't listen to them talk about it.
Then when Trigger gets a Michelle and skittles those scurrilous sharks we'll all be happy.
If the Emperor gets a double-hundred we'll need to bat first of course.
I can't see them scoring a hundred against us.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 01:25

And Both,I'm not having a go honestly,I'm not I'm just trying to say make sense out of my jumbled words.
If £7.50 for a beef roll at Lord's is considered good value then surely £20 to watch our heroes play a very important game of cricket must also fall into the same category?
I'm sorry if I'm being too simplistic.
It must be the lateness of the hour.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 06:58

Jim, I'm not saying t's not good value, but I feel as members, it should be much cheaper, as we have already paid a membership fee. There is no incentive to be a member, unless we make it to Lords, when we should have a choice of tickets.

Incidentally, for my stupidity in joining the Business club, my ticket costs £30, though presumably I could have paid £20 and not used the 'club'!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 07:50

£10 for tea and biscuits!Hope they are good biscuits Both.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 08:15

They ought to be, Rob, but these are extra!

All joking aside, if they are p1ssing of loyal fans, then they should be worried. I find it increasing frustrating getting to midweek cricket, parking, traffic, etc, that I need some consideration or I might choose to watch cricket on tv and select the matches I view live.

We all need to evaluate our customer service and keep up with change.

It will be interesting to see how full the ground is, as we used to fill the ground on such occasions. Incidentally, the weather forecast has improved and it should be a decent day.

ps there's no longer any Thatcher's on hand pump, either, for my occasional pint!

It's just as well the team are playing exciting cricket.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 10:37

With respect Beefy, you present an odd paradox.

While you propose, quite rightly, that Somerset are charging more than other counties, of all the people I know, you are the one who spends more than any other going to the County Ground.

This is not a criticism!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 13:59

This is Hampshire prices.

Adult members: £7.50 advance & £10 on the gate
Junior members: £2.50 advance & £2.50 on the gate
Non-member adult: £15 advance & £20 on the gate
Junior non-members: £5 advance & £5 on the gate
There are no senior citizen/student concessions.

[www.ecb.co.uk]

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 14:03

Lancs Prices.

Adults (including Lancashire members): £10
Concessions/OAP’s: £5
Under-16s and Lancashire Thunderbolts members: £1

[www.ecb.co.uk]

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 14:08

I don't know what AG thinks, but it looks to me as if Lancs aren't really 'charging quite as much as they could if they wanted to'.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 14:11

It does look that way.

The £10 for all adults is cheap.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 14:31

And to complete the final match.

Gloucester prices.

Members advanced: £10 for adults and £5 for under-16s

General advanced: £14 for adults and £7 for under-16s

Gate price tickets will also be available (subject to availability)

Members: £14 for adults and £7 for under-16s

General: £19 adults and £9 for under-16s

[www.ecb.co.uk]


It does make you wonder about Somerset prices.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 14:47

It's a pretty big ground to fill, though, Old Trafford.

They may have prioritised trying to get a full house?

If I had Kaneria in my side, I'd be delighted to be drawn at Old Trafford.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Dasher Denning (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 14:58

My initial thoughts were "it's only £20 for a good day's cricket in the quarter finals of a national competion". Now having seen the other counties' pricing arrangements structures I'm not so sure. Really do think that Members should be rewarded in these circumstances.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 15:02

My thoughts entirely Dasher.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 15:05

We can't even claim that the other grounds will all be having England games to rake revenue in because Old Trafford has been shut out of the circuit.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:06

Bloke, I shall probably wait until next season's fixtures are announced before deciding whether or not to renew my membership, be it in the Business Club or the rest of the ground.

The 20/20's being all midweek cause me logistical problems, so I may give some a miss next year.

I joined the business club as it was tax deductible and in theory provided much better viewing, but I spend so much time walking round the ground beinmg sociable, that I'm rarely up there.

I believe that the club will soon suffer, if it keeps milking the members. It's about time we got something back.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:10

I have written to Mr Gould asking for an explanation of the ticket prices and my disgust at the way members are now treated.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:10

I wonder if they knew what the other clubs would be charging, I expect they do now!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:12

Rob did you tell him what the others were charging?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:13

I joined the business club as it was tax deductible

Does this mean I am subsidising your tea and occasional biscuit? I hope you are declaring all those refreshments on your tax returns.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:18

I did explain that we were charging twice as much as other counties.I'm sure he's aware of the situation and if not he soon will be.Perhaps if others feel the same they could do as me.It only costs the price of a stamp.Not even that if handed in saturday.
I'm going to watch my village team in a mo,it's a lot cheaper although the standard ain't quite the same,but then again a game of cricket is a game of cricket.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 17:19

I pay £1.70 for my cappuchino, which I don't claim on expenses. I have never had a biscuit or a free drink, whilst in the EBC, so my honour is intact your honour!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: rambling sid (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 18:57

Although i am a member I don't have too much of a problem with the £20, but what did annoy me was to discover that either buying online or buying over the phone(and collecting on the day), there was an additional £1.50 handling charge. Whilst £1.50 may seem small beer why should we have to pay that. Every sale of a ticket involves sales staff in a "handling" exercise. Why do we get lumbered with this charge just because we dont go to the ground. I can understand a charge being made if tickets are sent through the post, but its too late to send them at this stage. Just one more way of ripping off the punters.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 19:45

i've had a response from the club, along lines of -

"The prices are set by the Chief Executive and Management Committee. Group prices were £20 so this is the level that has been set so far.
The club doesnt get as many big games as hamps and lancs due to ground size so need to make most of them."

Doesnt explain why members couldnt perhaps have been charged at least the normal advance group price of £16???

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 21:34

In other words "We are going to rip you off while we can"

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 22:53

They will regret this action. People will eventually vote with their feet.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:09

Will their hands stop working because of anger and outrage?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:17

i did reply saying surely having 8000 in at £10 would be comeercially better than 4000 in at £20.
More people firstly creates a better atmosphere.
Secondly more people = more food sales, more beer sales, more shop sales etc etc.
Cheaper tickets seem to benefit us all to me?!

Only way it will pay for the club is if its a full house at £20 a ticket then they win on ticlet sales and all the rest

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:25

It will be interesting to see how many are there Saturday.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:28

Quote:
wsm fan
More people firstly creates a better atmosphere.
Secondly more people = more food sales, more beer sales, more shop sales etc etc.

And more people likely to come to future matches.

I admit that when I first saw the price I thought it was reasonable, but that was before I saw what other counties were charging. Now I understand why co-contributors feel so strongly about this matter.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:34

I tend to agree,if the other conties are so much cheaper than surely members deserve an explanation.
Grockle,how about asking mr Gould or whoever to make a statement?
I don't think staying away is the answer though.
The lads need as much support as possible.
If I could make it there I'd pay up just to show the team that we're there giving them that extra man.
I'm still surprised that so many are surprised by things like this.
Learning from history can teach us a lot.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:43

Nothing surprises me in this age of sporting greed.One day it will come to an end and then they'll be begging for our money which lots of us haven't got.If you knew what I have in income you would realise why I feel so irate about this.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/05/2009 23:56

Rob,as you know I'm in the same boat.
I don't expect any favours from the club and don't get any.
I do however find it's the same in most places,in many walks of life.
People just want what they can get.
It's a business don't ya know?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 00:02

I realise that Jim but so are all the other counties.
If they want to cut a few costs I could give them a few ideas regarding cutting match day costs.It sticks out like a sore thumb every match day.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 07:06

This is a disgrace, and it is not even a big match in the grand scheme of history and the season.

The SCCC need to start basing their management around a client/supporter orientation rather than continuing to exploit the loyalty of fans.

I regret that nothing has changed in the 50+ years that I have supported this Club.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 07:53

This is what happens when an ex military man is in charge.
Just stand in line and accept orders.
Stand at ease now!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 09:33

I wonder if folks would feel a bit better about this if we had some kind of commitment from the powers that be that all non-budgeted FPT revenue would be ploughed straight back into the playing side of SCCC, be it at first team level (new bowler?) or at youth level or what have you?

Although we, I think, have been told otherwise, I continue to fear that all the Ground re-development will soak up any spare cash that we have. The history of major sports is replete with examples of teams that have engaged in major capital works (sometimes meaning actual new stadia) and lived to regret it from a playing point of view.

A good current example of one man who probably regrets major building work is Arsene Wenger, for instance.

The arguments are always made that we have 'to think long-term,' in terms of increased revenue down the road etc, but that road is typically very long indeed and pitted with pot-holes.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 09:38

I have to say I can understand everyone's outrage at the cost of these tickets. I too am appalled at the price - it's far too low. I would willingly sell my house AND pay more than double!
(Anyone remember a certain 'Not The Nine O'Clock News' sketch?)

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 10:21

Actually I was one of those that didn’t think £20 was too bad for a day’s cricket.

It’s the comparison with other counties that change my opinion on a fare price.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 10:55

I think that's the main point,Mike.
Maybe somebody just admitting they got it wrong and uttering the word "sorry"would suffice.
So,go on lads.
If Mr Broooooooon can do it.
So can you.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 10:56

Tractor doesn't own a house, Mike!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 10:59

I've just looked at the Sky website which shows that they are televising Lancashire. Where does the info about out game come from

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: mama mia (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 11:03

I would be inteested to know if the 'Management Committee pay for their tickets.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 11:06

If I have made a mistake I apologize.

I was told yesterday that the cameras were being put in place at Taunton.

The web site is still saying TBC [www.skysports.com]

The EPG on Sky is not saying which match is on.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 11:33

Quote:
wsm fan
"The prices are set by the Chief Executive and Management Committee. Group prices were £20 so this is the level that has been set so far.

Love it, instead of why the prices are high, the answer is 'someone else made the decision'. Classic non-answer.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 11:46

Group games were £20? I wonder what the other counties charged for Group games?

I really do tend to believe that we're charging a high amount because we need to to help off-set all the building costs.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 12:00

My assumption too AG.

And there we were being told a few years ago that 'the money from sky' was all cricket needed, etc etc.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 12:05

At least the option to pre-purchase, at a discount, was available for the group games.

The two main issues here are:

1). Why is there no discount for members?

2). What incentive, during a spell of inclement weather, is there to pre-purchase?

What's the equivalent of an own goal, in cricket?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 12:13

Allowing the other side too many powerplay overs?

(Sm14)

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 12:19

(Sm128)

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:04

You are right Mike in that a sky site says TBC. i was lloking at the live score centre and the only match mentioned was thre Lancs game so I assumed (perhapds wrongly) that this was the televised game. Hope I'm wrong.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:08

They are very slow in announcing it, unless that is deliberate so as not to influence ticket sales.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:09

Yep, Mike, I reckon you've hit the nail squarely on the head.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:10

Panic over.

It has just come up on SKY's EPG that it is Somerset.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:21

I WAS wrong!!! Hurah. My Sky EPG has just confirmed Somerset v Sussex. I should never doubt Grockles sources. Sorry guys

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:23

EPG?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:25

Electronic Programme Guide.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:27

Cheers FE. Does the postie deliver that?

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:29

Yeah..........along with the e-mail.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:32

Explains a lot...I think my postie's been Sky Plus'ed.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:45

I have visions of you pressing "play" on your letterbox and getting a whole "season" of junk mail in one hit!

Ouch.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 13:53

I'll just do what Bruce Almighty did - "Yes to all".

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 19:59

Book a lunch for £19 and have a really cheap day.Another rip off!

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2009 20:23

As it isn't cheap, perhaps Mr Bird will be crying fowl, on his radio commentary, but then again he probably has to be a wise owl.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: 1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2009 00:06

That's a FOUL Botham,

Somerset CCC owe more to Mr Bird, than he owes to them.
Not to many people these days promote for nought.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2009 02:09

Makes sense to televise our game as they are doing the baseball or what ever it is on wednesday and most of the crew will be in Bristol on sunday.

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2009 05:40

How much does it cost to watch a game of footy these days chaps ?

Grizzzly

Re: FPT Quarter Final Ticket prices
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2009 06:52

Nothing at Saltford and you get the choice of up to 4 games.

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