Yorkies in the sunshine
More runs for the Big Man
By Grockle
August 9 2009
Beautiful sunshine greets the men form the North for the first Pro40 of this season. The groound looks great and the crowd is queing outside down to the church so we should get a decent bunch to watch this. The side looks pretty normal (the side that played Warwickshire without Caddick and with Waller) on the scorecard. Changes to be announced
fv Yorkshire Pro40 @ Taunton Sunday 9 August 2009
The side as presently published is the same as the side from the Warwickshire except Waller is in for Caddick.
Trescothick, Langer (the Spy), de Bruyn, Hildreth, Kieswetter, Suppiah, Trego, Thomas, Phillips, Waller, Willoughby
With Hildreth back to full fitness after the stomach bug, Wes Durston returns to his second team position so there are no 'Grocklees' presently in the side. Revelations about 'Langer's Dossier' in the papers may clour his reception today but ther than that this is a confident group who should be looking for more points today from the Tykes who return to the Ground keen to get that CC1 run chase out of their minds and get some Payback. Yorkshire/Somerset games are usually full of fun and frolics so we're all hopeful of a good Sunday of entertainment.
Presently Phil Frost is taking a bunch of Somerset groundsmen on a tour of the pitch - KT are you there? Some kind of Groundsmens course/holiday...imagine Frosty as you guest lecturer! It's hot and dry and we are playing on the main wicket in the middle of the ground in a direct line with the edge of the CA pavilion and the Scorer's hutch.
No Apple AM coverage today so the County comentating team will be on the air from about 1:30 for your delectation. I'm sure there'll be some Radio Bristol coverage but now the footy has started agina it will probalby be in between Forest Green Rovers and whoever. Gloucestershire aren't playing it seems so you may get some ball by ball - you never know. I'm doing the first part of the commentary so I'll be on with info at the start of the second bit.
Omari Banks is in for Alfonso Thomas. Not sure whether this is a 'rest' or an injury. He was favouring a shoulder during the Notts game so maybe he is being rested with the dry conditions. We'll see where we go with this. Shazad is in for Hoggard but other than that the side is as published.
Yorkshire won the toss and decided to bat. Langer took the field and loked like he had lost it by using Omari Banks to open from the River end. Charl did the usual duty at the OP but Rudolph and Gale made hay for a while as they took runs off the spinner until he was replaced by Ben Phillips in the 4th. For the first 7 overs Yorkshire seemed to be in full control with 49 coming and then it changed, as Langer took two absolutely excellent reaction catches from full blown strikes in a short midwicket position one at knee height to send Gale back and then an even better ankle biter to remove Lyth for very little.
Willow took a very nasty rap on the ankle just above the boot while fielding off his own bowling in his sixth and had to leave the field for treatment. His replacement Trego forced Bairstow to play on and we had our own boot on the neck of the Tykes innings.
Excellent fielding in a field constantly being 'tweaked' by the captain plus really good tight bowling from Zander de Bruyn and Max Waller in particular kept Rudolph off the strike and down to singles when he did face while we winkled out the Yorkshire allsorts (there's a lot of them but they bat all the way to 11). The captain had a plan for Brophy in particular and introduced the 21 year old spinner to execute it. Everyone went out, Waller bowled short and after a bit of a shaky start, the Yorkshire player put the ball into the hands of Marcus at cover according to the plan.
Pyrah looked to stick around until Langer re-introduced Banks and he did his job by fooling him with one that past him well out of his crease and gave Kieswetter the first of two stumpings. Bresnan hit Waller to cover...and gave the vice captain his third. Shazad came in early but forgot that the line was the keeper's and was very well removed by the sharp work of our gloveman without bothering the scorer.
This was off the quite excellent bowling of Zander de Bruyn, put on to hold the middle of the innings and left to finish off the opposition when they could get so little from him that it was pointless taking him off. Rashid gave Banger his third catch in the same position off the South African and Rudolph was finding himself with the prospect of being marooned even though he went past 50 at about a run a ball.
He destroyed Waller's figures a little with 2 sixes off his final over as the two played the game out but Kruis had to swing and de Bruyn was bowling too straight for that and bowled the tailender. Which left the core of the Yorkshire innings to try and make something of it after pushing them over 200. He tried to and put the ball down Hildreth's throat and that was all she wrote.
208 all out in the 39th. Superb containing from Zander and Max taking 6 for 67 between them. Excellent fielding from almost everyone and a real solid performance to produce a game we really ought to win this as the openers Trescothick and Kieswetter (surprisingly)have 42 off the first 8. Good first half on the 'road'. Let's hope the 'batting paradise' allows us to put this one to bed.
It looks that way as well with Banger tucking into the bowling and Craig hitting big shots. When we reach the 60's it looks like MT is in a hurry as he takes 4 fours in a row off the bowling of Pyrah and then he tries for a fifth and is beautifully caught by Rashid in mid wicket, the first of a number of very sharp catches by the Yorkshire infield (shame they didn't hold on to all of them)!
77 for 1 turns into a mini collapse with Kieswetter being bowled by Kruis (chopped on), Zander adjudged LBW (he wasn't) and then Langer very miffed at also being called for being in front (very very upset but he was)! From 77 and cruising, we are under 100 and re-building with Hildreth and Trego working to put this innings back n the tracks.
With Peter scratching around a bit and the Yorkshire boys tails up, it is down to Master Hildreth to sort this one out. The turning point in the game is when the most reliable fielder on the visitors side dropped a total sitter in front of the Caddick Pavilion and the pressure simply dropped away. The two Somerset men take us to 142 before Trigger departs courtesy of the hands of Rudolph and the bowling of Shahzad for a slightly ungainly 28.
I'm worrying about whether we are into the tail because we still need some 6 and that's our recognised batsmen isn't it? Forgot. We now have another man coming in at number 7....Arul Suppiah. No longer the man needing match practice but an established opener with first class 50s and centuries to his name. He joins Hildreth and all is most certainly right in the Somerset world. He is no longer the 'other man' in the partnership as our front name makes the runs. He is now an equal partner in any batting partnership and courtesy of his 3 fours and 2 sixes added to Hilda's 9 four 62, we walk it home needing 40 off 8 and then needing 6 off 6.
Big one day win in big one day style. Good allround performance with Zander shining with the ball and James shining with the bat. The one question was why play Omari at all if you had no intention of bowling Arul? Bringing in a third spinner would have made sense but tio then to only use two didn't. The only explanation is that he is in the squad for the T20 and he needed some first team action. Wes as a batsman would have made more sense to me but he got 50 in the Notts game so he has had time at the crease.
It will be an interesting thing to look out for in the Bristol match on Thursday.....
Today on the batting strip that is Taunton we outbowled, out fielded and out batted Carnegie. I expect no post from Kentish Townie tonight and there'll be no point in asking why....Great game to watch and to win.
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Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 13:33
Banks in for Thomas..... no idea why. Everything else is as it was. I'm on first so the website is up for info should anyone want to ask anything or comment.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 13:48
Good crowd there,Grockle?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 14:01
Is there a commentary link on the Club site or somewhere?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 14:06
It's at the top of the story related to this thread Congar.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 14:07
Apologies I got it at the top of this page.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 14:07
There's a link at the top of this page, Congar. But if the start of the match is anything to go by, you would probably need to be a glutton for punishment to follow the Test match with this one.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 14:12
Cricinfo says Banks opened the bowling - really?
Has JL lost the plot again, or are there no English bowlers with sufficient fire in their bellies?
Has JL lost the plot again, or are there no English bowlers with sufficient fire in their bellies?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 15:24
Thinking "outside the box"?
Good on him,good to see a different approach.
Good on him,good to see a different approach.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 15:39
Are we playing on a pitch that has just recently been used for a CC game?
Cannot think of any other reason to include Banks as well as Waller?
Cannot think of any other reason to include Banks as well as Waller?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 15:43
Unless he was designated twelfth mand and Thomas was injured at the eleventh hour?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 15:48
So have we bowled out of our skins - De Bruyn, Willow, Trego and Waller all have excellent figures for a game in the sunshine at Taunton, or is there something in the pitch that explains the fact that (so far) we seem to have kept them down pretty well?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 15:54
Let's just hope and pray that there is no injury to Thomas, SP. If he did drop out at the last minute, let's hope it was a migraine or something that is unlikely to have any lasting effect.
This sounds as though it's a really excellent performance in the field. If we can get Rudolph, then we really will be in the box seat, surely.
This sounds as though it's a really excellent performance in the field. If we can get Rudolph, then we really will be in the box seat, surely.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 15:59
With Banks bowling and Arul not bowling, I wonder if Grockle thinks there's any chance at all of Omari having bowled himself into contention for the T20 finals day?
Edgbaston does turn. The only other help available to bowlers is usually swing. There's normally little pace and bounce and very little movement off the pitch.
If there is something wrong with Thomas, how do we best cover him next Saturday?
Edgbaston does turn. The only other help available to bowlers is usually swing. There's normally little pace and bounce and very little movement off the pitch.
If there is something wrong with Thomas, how do we best cover him next Saturday?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 16:02
Yes!! Rashid gone too. Banger can do no wrong at the minute, can he?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 16:09
Thanks for the clarification re: Thomas, Grockle.
For anyone not listening, he is just having a rest from this game.
For anyone not listening, he is just having a rest from this game.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 16:13
Whatever happens in the second half here, it sounds like this was a superb tune-up in the field for next Saturday.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 16:29
Turn off the jingle Grockle
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 16:31
Yes, to clarify Blackacre are probably getting undue value for their sponsorship as the jingle has been on a loop in the background.. and there seems to be something else playing in the background, too - sounds like out of date adverts for the World T20?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 17:22
All looking wobbly really now.
Would be very annoying to waste all the good work in the field with an underwhelming batting effort to snatch defeat.
Would be very annoying to waste all the good work in the field with an underwhelming batting effort to snatch defeat.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 17:26
Time to consolidate, Omari is 6'4" according to Playfair.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 17:35
Looking like the Rudolph innings of 95 might be the only really big one of the day and may, therefore, be the decisive innings of this contest.
He really does have a strong record on this ground.
He really does have a strong record on this ground.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 18:40
... But in the event, I think the difference was that one side fielded well and the other did not. And the team that fielded well won the game.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 18:52
Well done, all - great to see the younger batters like James and Arul doing so well to see us home. Still worry about the skipper's place in the one-day game, though.
Congrats, excellent win.
Congrats, excellent win.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 18:54
Agree SP - Arul's strike rate at 100% is pretty good too with a couple of sixes thrown in.
A solid win.
A solid win.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 18:58
Excellent stuff,a very comfortable victory.
This side doesn't lose too many games.
Most heartening.
This side doesn't lose too many games.
Most heartening.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 19:36
Sorry about the jingle thing people. Wasn't there for the second half and didn't get back to my machine until the end of the game.
We need some kind of 'foldback' in the commentary area because otherwise we have little idea what is ging out. Another thing to add to the list at the end of the seasn if this continues into next year and beyond.
Hope it didn't mess it up too much and there was always Phil the Tottle if it did.
Good win. Bit of a wobble in the middle for us but it all came right in the end.
No KT post as yet..... You're the betting man BJ. Odds?
We need some kind of 'foldback' in the commentary area because otherwise we have little idea what is ging out. Another thing to add to the list at the end of the seasn if this continues into next year and beyond.
Hope it didn't mess it up too much and there was always Phil the Tottle if it did.
Good win. Bit of a wobble in the middle for us but it all came right in the end.
No KT post as yet..... You're the betting man BJ. Odds?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 19:44
Grockle......
You'll get me in trouble.
Again.
Ok then.
We won,which should mean Mr Frost gets some peace.
I say;
5/1 Frosty gets a roasting,not enough runs.
8/11 Frosty gets let off,though only just.
5/2 He tell us this was a great wicket and real cricket at last
33/1 He says he was mistaken all along and will take all his criticism back and offer Phil his sincerest apologies.
500/1 He agrees with me.
You'll get me in trouble.
Again.
Ok then.
We won,which should mean Mr Frost gets some peace.
I say;
5/1 Frosty gets a roasting,not enough runs.
8/11 Frosty gets let off,though only just.
5/2 He tell us this was a great wicket and real cricket at last
33/1 He says he was mistaken all along and will take all his criticism back and offer Phil his sincerest apologies.
500/1 He agrees with me.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 20:33
Cracking day today.
Ground looked a picture, lovely sunny day, large crowd, 6000+ and a Somerset victory, what more could one want...
Super bowling display today, few feilding lapses and Max dropped a sitter, Zander was superb towards the end.
Good start by Tres and Craig, sloppy dismissals then caused a wobble, JL was fuming with his LBW decision (as always) but great to see James and Arul see us home.
Roll on Thursday, be great to witness us stuff Glos twice in 1 season!!!
Ground looked a picture, lovely sunny day, large crowd, 6000+ and a Somerset victory, what more could one want...
Super bowling display today, few feilding lapses and Max dropped a sitter, Zander was superb towards the end.
Good start by Tres and Craig, sloppy dismissals then caused a wobble, JL was fuming with his LBW decision (as always) but great to see James and Arul see us home.
Roll on Thursday, be great to witness us stuff Glos twice in 1 season!!!
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 22:33
A very enjoyable day at Taunton today, and a good result with some excellent performances.
AGod, in my opinion you were absolutely 'spot on', when earlier on in this thread you queried whether the pitch had been used before this season. Almost certainly it had - it had a different colour and look to the other pitches and tended to dust a lot - something that doesn't occur at Taunton until late in the course of a 4-day game.
I wanted to ask Frostie this, but couldn't get out on to the outfield to see him after the game.
I am sure that KT will be very pleased to hear this news. He is of course more than able to answer for himself many of the sniping and bitchy remarks that are spewed out by other posters, in an unworthy attempt to undermine his personal opinion, but to be fair to him (in case anybody had inadvertently overlooked the fact) today's game was of one day duration. Surely KT's comments about the Taunton pitches relate to Somerset's problems in taking 20 wickets in a match at Taunton (viz: 4-day games). A pitch for a one-day game takes on a completely different dimension.
The only disappointing aspect of this game from Somerset's point of view was the clear dissent shown by Langer after he was adjudged out, LBW. He stood his ground for several seconds after the umpire's decision, clearly said something to him and was pointing at his bat as if to say, "I hit the ball, mate."
A Somerset member sitting near me was very incensed by the captain's behaviour and shouted, "Get off, Langer."
There then followed a long and slow trudge back to the pavilion, and someone in the crowd near to the Andy Caddick Pavilion must have made a comment. Langer turned on him / her and said something in return (wish that I had been an audible distance away), and Langer was then persuaded to go inside the pavilion by a Senior Steward who was wearing an orange jacket.
I would be surprised (based on his previous record) if Langer gets away without a report being made by the Umpires regarding this dissent. This will not be the first time that he has been in trouble.
You would have had to have been there to see it, and to appreciate the seriousness of it, IMHO.
Anyway, a good win with some entertaining cricket from both sides today.
AGod, in my opinion you were absolutely 'spot on', when earlier on in this thread you queried whether the pitch had been used before this season. Almost certainly it had - it had a different colour and look to the other pitches and tended to dust a lot - something that doesn't occur at Taunton until late in the course of a 4-day game.
I wanted to ask Frostie this, but couldn't get out on to the outfield to see him after the game.
I am sure that KT will be very pleased to hear this news. He is of course more than able to answer for himself many of the sniping and bitchy remarks that are spewed out by other posters, in an unworthy attempt to undermine his personal opinion, but to be fair to him (in case anybody had inadvertently overlooked the fact) today's game was of one day duration. Surely KT's comments about the Taunton pitches relate to Somerset's problems in taking 20 wickets in a match at Taunton (viz: 4-day games). A pitch for a one-day game takes on a completely different dimension.
The only disappointing aspect of this game from Somerset's point of view was the clear dissent shown by Langer after he was adjudged out, LBW. He stood his ground for several seconds after the umpire's decision, clearly said something to him and was pointing at his bat as if to say, "I hit the ball, mate."
A Somerset member sitting near me was very incensed by the captain's behaviour and shouted, "Get off, Langer."
There then followed a long and slow trudge back to the pavilion, and someone in the crowd near to the Andy Caddick Pavilion must have made a comment. Langer turned on him / her and said something in return (wish that I had been an audible distance away), and Langer was then persuaded to go inside the pavilion by a Senior Steward who was wearing an orange jacket.
I would be surprised (based on his previous record) if Langer gets away without a report being made by the Umpires regarding this dissent. This will not be the first time that he has been in trouble.
You would have had to have been there to see it, and to appreciate the seriousness of it, IMHO.
Anyway, a good win with some entertaining cricket from both sides today.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 22:52
He did show dissent but no worse than i've seen many batsmen do in championship games against us this season.
Can't recall exact names but plenty of times a few of us in the MT stand have had to give some opposition batsmen some verbal encouragement to depart the field after standing still for numerous second after the umpires finger has gone up, granted they could be in shock that the umpires have actually given a decision for us based on some of the umpires we've had this season.
Point taken though that as captain and as a player of his experience he should just take i, walk off, and then bash up the dressing room and swear his head off should he feel the need in the privacy of our own dressing room...
Can't recall exact names but plenty of times a few of us in the MT stand have had to give some opposition batsmen some verbal encouragement to depart the field after standing still for numerous second after the umpires finger has gone up, granted they could be in shock that the umpires have actually given a decision for us based on some of the umpires we've had this season.
Point taken though that as captain and as a player of his experience he should just take i, walk off, and then bash up the dressing room and swear his head off should he feel the need in the privacy of our own dressing room...
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 22:58
Well done. Good defence. But KT has already undermined his own position without anyone else's help by being absent from discussions about the surface when they do not fit his particular required characteristics. It's been a trait for more than one season I'm afraid.
His point is not about 20 wickets. It's Taunton as a results wicket, as an unforgiving bowlers graveyard and a permanent batsman's paradise. Results of any kind don't fit the criteria and therefore are not part of his discussion.
Thanks for the discription of Langer's dismissal. He certainly stood for longer than was sensible and looked very clearly at his bat. You must have been closer than we were on the commentary because neither of us saw any verbal interaction between the umpire and the captain.
He's been known to 'discuss' things with spectators who comment and it isn't the first time although it must have happened the other side of the 'dugout' and out of our view. But umpires and stewards will all have their story and the authorities will deal with it as they see fit I suppose. If it was that bad he'll get a hefty fine/reprimand I'm sure
The replay on the video feed certainly suggested that it was a decent decision from the umpire. The video operator (who is here for every game) confirmed that the wicket was not the one that was used for the Championship game the week before (AG's actual point). We haven't used many pitches in that area of the ground but I'm sure it was used during the Women's World Cup matches as those central pitches seemed to be reserved for that this season.
His point is not about 20 wickets. It's Taunton as a results wicket, as an unforgiving bowlers graveyard and a permanent batsman's paradise. Results of any kind don't fit the criteria and therefore are not part of his discussion.
Thanks for the discription of Langer's dismissal. He certainly stood for longer than was sensible and looked very clearly at his bat. You must have been closer than we were on the commentary because neither of us saw any verbal interaction between the umpire and the captain.
He's been known to 'discuss' things with spectators who comment and it isn't the first time although it must have happened the other side of the 'dugout' and out of our view. But umpires and stewards will all have their story and the authorities will deal with it as they see fit I suppose. If it was that bad he'll get a hefty fine/reprimand I'm sure
The replay on the video feed certainly suggested that it was a decent decision from the umpire. The video operator (who is here for every game) confirmed that the wicket was not the one that was used for the Championship game the week before (AG's actual point). We haven't used many pitches in that area of the ground but I'm sure it was used during the Women's World Cup matches as those central pitches seemed to be reserved for that this season.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 23:05
Oh dear,CP.
You are a very angry man.
Can't we have a bit of fun these days without somebody spitting the dummy out?
Just relax,it's much more fun.
You are a very angry man.
Can't we have a bit of fun these days without somebody spitting the dummy out?
Just relax,it's much more fun.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 23:22
Bashing up the dressing room? Oh my Sir Vivian long ago...
PS KT could at least come on and say well done for the win - but he doesn't, does he!
PS KT could at least come on and say well done for the win - but he doesn't, does he!
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 23:26
You're right,Shep.
It's like so many other things,some people only see and hear what they want to,they'll only acknowledge something when it suits them.
Fact has nothing to do with it in the world they live in.
It's a pretty spiteful,unforgiving place to live I believe.
Quite sad that they're not able to relax and go with the flow,live and let live.(Wasn't that a film LoL starred in?)
It's like so many other things,some people only see and hear what they want to,they'll only acknowledge something when it suits them.
Fact has nothing to do with it in the world they live in.
It's a pretty spiteful,unforgiving place to live I believe.
Quite sad that they're not able to relax and go with the flow,live and let live.(Wasn't that a film LoL starred in?)
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/08/2009 23:46
With the pitches being so bad at Taunton it didn’t stop all these Groundsmen wanting to find out how it’s done.
And I had the privilege of one of them sitting next to me during the match and I have no need to tell you what he thought of Phil Frost as a Head Groundsman.
And I had the privilege of one of them sitting next to me during the match and I have no need to tell you what he thought of Phil Frost as a Head Groundsman.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 01:37
Looks like a spiffing win all round.
JL isn't one to look happy when he's given out is he ? Maybe he should have a word with Adam Gilchrist !
Grizzzly
JL isn't one to look happy when he's given out is he ? Maybe he should have a word with Adam Gilchrist !
Grizzzly
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: MisterMurph (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 02:00
Looked like a good crowd when I drove past this morning - unfortunately I had to nip off for lunch out at Hillfarance.
Has much been made of the Langer dossier? Cricinfo seem to have raised it to Headline status...
Has much been made of the Langer dossier? Cricinfo seem to have raised it to Headline status...
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 04:52
Thanks to all for the reports from the ground, I didn't find any of them "angry", first hand accounts are important for those of us who can't get to the matches.
Excellent win, we really bat a long way down with players who can push the score along. The CC is slipping away so it would be nice to pick up one of the other trophies.
Excellent win, we really bat a long way down with players who can push the score along. The CC is slipping away so it would be nice to pick up one of the other trophies.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 08:25
The Langer dossier (see other thread) appears to be an old email to his mate, saying things like Anderson's improved but can still be ordinary, Strauss is a good player but conservative as a skipper, Swann has an ego...wow, talk about controversial.
The media would have had this weeks ago but, as usual (eg MPs expenses) save it up for an opportune occasion (ie when England playing poorly) and write it up to make it sound as extraordinary as possible. Yawn...
The media would have had this weeks ago but, as usual (eg MPs expenses) save it up for an opportune occasion (ie when England playing poorly) and write it up to make it sound as extraordinary as possible. Yawn...
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 09:22
Re: the Langer dossier - it is, perhaps, a good job that no SCCC player is in the England squad. Of course, one assumes that if they were Langer would think this through and say nothing negative about them in this dreaded e-mail.
But since Langer is moaning about how this has got out because;
"I'm not the kind of guy to slate people to their face,'" it does, rather, make me wonder.
Shane Warne intimates in the paper (and I agree with him) that the timing of the leak shows that there is, almost certainly, nothing 'accidental,' about this particular leak. Warne also intimates (and, again, I agree) that it's not at all surprising that Australia leaked assessments that they receive.
Personally, I suspect that comments received from other Australians that play county cricket will also be 'leaked,' between now and the Oval.
But since Langer is moaning about how this has got out because;
"I'm not the kind of guy to slate people to their face,'" it does, rather, make me wonder.
Shane Warne intimates in the paper (and I agree with him) that the timing of the leak shows that there is, almost certainly, nothing 'accidental,' about this particular leak. Warne also intimates (and, again, I agree) that it's not at all surprising that Australia leaked assessments that they receive.
Personally, I suspect that comments received from other Australians that play county cricket will also be 'leaked,' between now and the Oval.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 09:34
They were speculating on the radio last night that it was going to be released by the Torygraph as big up yours to Langer after England had shown his assessments to be all wrong,they were of course banking on an England victory at Leeds.
It's nothing we don't already know in fairness,this sort of thing has been going on forever.
It's nothing we don't already know in fairness,this sort of thing has been going on forever.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 10:46
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Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 11:31
The futures bright, the futures Waller.
Yesterday's photos follow later.
Yesterday's photos follow later.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 13:40
Hildreth said that the wicket was more 'abrasive,' than usual as well as being slower. He said there was reverse swing for both teams.
Langer called it a 'different kind of wicket from what we are used to.'
I did rather wonder from the number of batsmen on either side (but esp their side) that fell for low scores.
On a slow wicket, I'd say we did particularly well to win batting second - those kind of wickets usually favour the side batting first.
Langer called it a 'different kind of wicket from what we are used to.'
I did rather wonder from the number of batsmen on either side (but esp their side) that fell for low scores.
On a slow wicket, I'd say we did particularly well to win batting second - those kind of wickets usually favour the side batting first.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 13:52
Well they have been favouring wickets over on the Gimblett Hill side of the ground for most home games and have rarely ventured into the centre. So these wickets have been lying dormant since the Women's event - the ones to the Caddyshack side may not have been used at all this season!!
My God don't suggest that the ground has a number of differing wicket types on it!!! Different versions of the M's M1 M5 M62 or added A roads A1, A303, A38. All roads but differing in classification.
This groundsman thing is so complicated....little bit too much for a glorified school caretaker type role don't ya think?
My God don't suggest that the ground has a number of differing wicket types on it!!! Different versions of the M's M1 M5 M62 or added A roads A1, A303, A38. All roads but differing in classification.
This groundsman thing is so complicated....little bit too much for a glorified school caretaker type role don't ya think?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 13:53
Sorry for the delay.
Yesterday’s photo
Gale not finding it easy to bat against Willoughby.
Even against Banks bowling Gale played and missed.
Shahzad was ct Kieswetter bld Zander de Bruyn.
Craig Kieswetter will want to forget this shot, bowled by Kruis.
Zander de Bruyn bowling Kruis one of his 4 wickets.
This could easily have been four wides for Willoughby if Kieswetter hadn’t made a good stop.
I wonder what Marcus is thinking at this moment when he knew the ball was heading straight for Rashid off Pyrah’s bowling.
Yesterday’s photo
Gale not finding it easy to bat against Willoughby.
Even against Banks bowling Gale played and missed.
Shahzad was ct Kieswetter bld Zander de Bruyn.
Craig Kieswetter will want to forget this shot, bowled by Kruis.
Zander de Bruyn bowling Kruis one of his 4 wickets.
This could easily have been four wides for Willoughby if Kieswetter hadn’t made a good stop.
I wonder what Marcus is thinking at this moment when he knew the ball was heading straight for Rashid off Pyrah’s bowling.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:01
Both sides making a fast start and then falling away a bit is often another pointer towards a slow wicket because things become difficult as soon as the ball loses its hardness.
It might be, Grockle, that this is one of those wickets that was last re-laid a long, long time ago? (with others having been relaid more recently.)
Of course, if the wicket was so abrasive that the ball reversed through the air, as James suggests, then one wonders whether we might be able to use it for a CC game as a means of giving the bowlers extra help? Then again, it might be that the ECB would deem it 'too dry,' to last a full four days anyway.
It might be, Grockle, that this is one of those wickets that was last re-laid a long, long time ago? (with others having been relaid more recently.)
Of course, if the wicket was so abrasive that the ball reversed through the air, as James suggests, then one wonders whether we might be able to use it for a CC game as a means of giving the bowlers extra help? Then again, it might be that the ECB would deem it 'too dry,' to last a full four days anyway.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:07
You really should be gettng awards for your photo's Mike
Top Work
Top Work
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:15
Thanks Nailsea_Fizz.
I don't always thank people for their comments but I do appreciate them.
I don't always thank people for their comments but I do appreciate them.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:16
At the end of the season when I do one of my many promised overhauls of this site I would like to re-name the "Hugh Collis 'Crouchend' Gallery at the top of the page".
I'd like to call it 'Mike's Gallery' and get some of these picture into there so people can page through them and see what a sterling job he does for us and what quality he can produce.
Hugh was a very respected poster in the early years of Grockles who posted under the name of "Crouchend Wyvern". He was the brother of John Collis the cricket journalist and had a number of run ins with Peter Anderson in the early induction of PA into the joys of websites. Accused of being a 'radical element' by PA, he became a respected correspondent with the ex-boss before he died of a heart attack on a plane journey to Berlin (I believe) some years ago.
I think he'd be happy now to make way to our resident 'clicker'
Would that meet with people's approval and Mike, any problem with me uploading your snaps into the network glossary?
I'd like to call it 'Mike's Gallery' and get some of these picture into there so people can page through them and see what a sterling job he does for us and what quality he can produce.
Hugh was a very respected poster in the early years of Grockles who posted under the name of "Crouchend Wyvern". He was the brother of John Collis the cricket journalist and had a number of run ins with Peter Anderson in the early induction of PA into the joys of websites. Accused of being a 'radical element' by PA, he became a respected correspondent with the ex-boss before he died of a heart attack on a plane journey to Berlin (I believe) some years ago.
I think he'd be happy now to make way to our resident 'clicker'
Would that meet with people's approval and Mike, any problem with me uploading your snaps into the network glossary?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:25
Awesome idea, Grockle.
I hope the chap to whom you refer wore his 'radical element,' label with pride!?
I hope the chap to whom you refer wore his 'radical element,' label with pride!?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:26
No problems Grockle you can do what you like with my photos on this site.
I will be delighted if you think I am good enough to take that good mans place.
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I will be delighted if you think I am good enough to take that good mans place.
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Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: 1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:39
What a dam good idea Grockle.
Will we get the description and dates as well if possible.
Give you a task in the long Winter months Mike.
I must say you have produced some fantastic photos for us to view, and reflect.
Will we get the description and dates as well if possible.
Give you a task in the long Winter months Mike.
I must say you have produced some fantastic photos for us to view, and reflect.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:55
After going yesterday I am beginning to ask why they are doing away with this competition.
If Somerset can fill the ground with its first home game with a good atmosphere and as far as I know no trouble.
People around me were saying bring back the Sunday league.
It is the correct length starting just after mid-day and finishing early evening.
Even Brian the steward was doing a brilliant job yesterday only allowing people to walk in front of people sat on the Gimblett hill in-between overs, all that was needed was for the other steward at the other end to do the same.
If Somerset can fill the ground with its first home game with a good atmosphere and as far as I know no trouble.
People around me were saying bring back the Sunday league.
It is the correct length starting just after mid-day and finishing early evening.
Even Brian the steward was doing a brilliant job yesterday only allowing people to walk in front of people sat on the Gimblett hill in-between overs, all that was needed was for the other steward at the other end to do the same.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 14:57
I think that Mike's photos add something to the normal text and agree with their inclusion in a new gallery. Well done Mike, keep up the good work. I may see you clicking away at the Sussex game next week.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:16
I really appreciate seeing Mike's pictures in the relevant match thread and thoroughly approve of Grockle's suggestion of preserving the best of them in a special gallery.
Mike might also think about sharing them with the museum; I would guess that anything more than about two years old would be of interest to the curators - and certainly would be if preserved for future generations of supporters.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Mike might also think about sharing them with the museum; I would guess that anything more than about two years old would be of interest to the curators - and certainly would be if preserved for future generations of supporters.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:31
They are bringing back the Sunday League next summer, MB, but not as we know it.
The new limited overs competition will be played almost exclusively on Sundays, and if they have any sense will have the same starting time as the one that packed `em in at Taunton yesterday.
But at the moment, subject to final agreement by the counties, it will be this weird `you bat, we`ll bat, you bat, and then we`ll bat` 20 overs at a time business. So 40 overs to each side, as yesterday, but split into Twenty/Twenty/Twenty/Twenty.
The idea is to avoid those dull middle sessions in current 50 and 40-over cricket, when players just push for ones and twos awaiting a final flourish. Can`t see it myself, though.
The new limited overs competition will be played almost exclusively on Sundays, and if they have any sense will have the same starting time as the one that packed `em in at Taunton yesterday.
But at the moment, subject to final agreement by the counties, it will be this weird `you bat, we`ll bat, you bat, and then we`ll bat` 20 overs at a time business. So 40 overs to each side, as yesterday, but split into Twenty/Twenty/Twenty/Twenty.
The idea is to avoid those dull middle sessions in current 50 and 40-over cricket, when players just push for ones and twos awaiting a final flourish. Can`t see it myself, though.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:43
I don't think (and am hoping) that that format has yet been agreed on.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:43
I was only saying yesterday about leaving my photos to the museum after I have joined Harold Gimblett, I would have to make a new will out though.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:45
If the dull bit in a 40 over innings is, say, from the 15th over to the 30th over then, presumably, teams will push the ball around for the final five overs of their first stint and the the first 10 of the second one?
Perhaps the idea is that that's preferable to 15 overs of dull bits en bloc?
But I certainly can't see why the new format would eradicate or reduce the total length of this period?
Perhaps the idea is that that's preferable to 15 overs of dull bits en bloc?
But I certainly can't see why the new format would eradicate or reduce the total length of this period?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:47
And as we said somewhere else. It replaces it with a batting process where if your number 1,2,or 3 are in form then your batting all rounders never get to the crease because it is being occupied for most of the 2 innings by the specialists. Or they are involved in a 4 over slog to get the score up after the front end's innings.
No learning to bat an innings out, little chance to develop their batting skills past the number 8 'hit and hope' kind of batting.
Same with the bowling as well because they are talking about taking away the bowler restrictions.
Have no idea how this is supposed to develop the game. Just seems to be the commercial blokes thinking out of their cash registers!
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No learning to bat an innings out, little chance to develop their batting skills past the number 8 'hit and hope' kind of batting.
Same with the bowling as well because they are talking about taking away the bowler restrictions.
Have no idea how this is supposed to develop the game. Just seems to be the commercial blokes thinking out of their cash registers!
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Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: TykesRUs (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:48
Can I just mention that many of us up in Tykeland also deplore the passing of the 40 over version of one day cricket.
The powers that be get such a lot wrong in administering cricket.
The powers that be get such a lot wrong in administering cricket.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:51
Superb photo's once again Mike. They really show the atmosphere of the ground & what is going on.
And a fantastic idea from Grockle to have a Photo Album section - yes, yes, yes. Salivating already !
Grizzzly
And a fantastic idea from Grockle to have a Photo Album section - yes, yes, yes. Salivating already !
Grizzzly
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:56
Mike:
I'm leaving my cricketana to the museum when I make my final journey to Gimblett's Hill, but I'm not proposing to write a new will to say so. Yesterday I simply told my daughter that that is what I want to happen and she will do the needful. Are you lucky enough to have a sensible daughter?
Everybody should have one.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I'm leaving my cricketana to the museum when I make my final journey to Gimblett's Hill, but I'm not proposing to write a new will to say so. Yesterday I simply told my daughter that that is what I want to happen and she will do the needful. Are you lucky enough to have a sensible daughter?
Everybody should have one.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 15:59
No but I have two sisters, they will do.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 16:06
Just tell them to live for years and years.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 16:50
Whilst I think that "Mike's Gallery" is a splendid idea, Grockle, is there some way that Hugh's memory could also remain? Perhaps adding a "Book of Remembrance" or some such to your "Grockle's Honour Board" page?
It may be a touch sentimental, but Hugh's passing and the genuine feeling it elicited here, as well as his brother's subsequent posting, marked something of a watershed for me. That was the first time I really appreciated that this very special cyber-place is more than just a website,and that electronic communities can be every bit as real as physical ones.
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It may be a touch sentimental, but Hugh's passing and the genuine feeling it elicited here, as well as his brother's subsequent posting, marked something of a watershed for me. That was the first time I really appreciated that this very special cyber-place is more than just a website,and that electronic communities can be every bit as real as physical ones.
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Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 17:08
I agree with that. I arrived here at around the time Mr Collis died and it was clear that his persona contributed much to be the excellent ambience of this site that for the most part we manage to maintain.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 18:13
I too agree. I came to the site a little later than LoL. But I thought at the time that the gallery was named after Hugh Collis - and continue to think - that this was a fitting tribute.
It is clear that Hugh is fondly remembered by those who knew him and I hope that a way can be found of preserving a reference to him in a reasonably prominent place.
It is clear that Hugh is fondly remembered by those who knew him and I hope that a way can be found of preserving a reference to him in a reasonably prominent place.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 18:27
I don’t know if this would be appropriate, could we name the awards we give to the players (Player on the month/player of the season) after him.
I didn’t know him but somebody so respected on here by those that did, it seems that he should still have is name recognised on something.
I didn’t know him but somebody so respected on here by those that did, it seems that he should still have is name recognised on something.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/08/2009 22:39
I'll have a think gentlemen but it is an excellent idea Mike. Leave it with me.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2009 05:21
As a newcomer to the site (I think I first posted around 2003) I fully support proposals to recognise the early years and those grockles no longer with us.
Mike, the photos are great, please keep them coming they are the next best thing to being there (apart from Grockle's radio commentaries of course).
Mike, the photos are great, please keep them coming they are the next best thing to being there (apart from Grockle's radio commentaries of course).
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2009 10:26
According to the other site, Arul Suppiah, upon arriving at the crease, informed James Hildreth that;
"You and I will win this game. We will take us home"
That's very good to hear and sounds indicative of burgeoning confidence on Arul's part.
"You and I will win this game. We will take us home"
That's very good to hear and sounds indicative of burgeoning confidence on Arul's part.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Kentish Townie (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2009 11:38
Interesting to read the comments about the pitch for this game being a little worn.
Certainly, I made the suggestion that, since the absence of any deterioration in the Taunton pitches was making 20 wickets difficult, we might experiment with reusing pitches.
Middlesex's groundsman said recently the reason pitches were getting better is that modern techniques favour more grass left on and more rolling, meaning flatter, more durable pitches that don't break up.
Maybe leaving more grass on and watering more heavily has been barking up the wrong tree.. just a theory.
Certainly, I made the suggestion that, since the absence of any deterioration in the Taunton pitches was making 20 wickets difficult, we might experiment with reusing pitches.
Middlesex's groundsman said recently the reason pitches were getting better is that modern techniques favour more grass left on and more rolling, meaning flatter, more durable pitches that don't break up.
Maybe leaving more grass on and watering more heavily has been barking up the wrong tree.. just a theory.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2009 11:40
"Certainly, I made the suggestion that, since the absence of any deterioration in the Taunton pitches was making 20 wickets difficult, we might experiment with reusing pitches."
Doing something like that for a one-day game is one thing. I don't know whether we would get away with it for a CC game though, where the pitch has to last four days?
Doing something like that for a one-day game is one thing. I don't know whether we would get away with it for a CC game though, where the pitch has to last four days?
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2009 16:31
But a Taunton pitch could last 10 days!
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2009 17:15
What a lovely thread, which for various reasons I've only just come across.
This is the true spirit of the Grockles website, which means a lot to many of us.
I reiterate all the compliments paid to Mike. His pictures are so important to those of us who can rarely get down to Taunton.
They are also of a very high standard, better than many you see in national newspapers.
This is the true spirit of the Grockles website, which means a lot to many of us.
I reiterate all the compliments paid to Mike. His pictures are so important to those of us who can rarely get down to Taunton.
They are also of a very high standard, better than many you see in national newspapers.
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2009 17:22
Thanks Bobstan you will have me blushing in a minute – oops I am. 
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 18/08/2009 16:01
A thought I had while on my hols about the new Sunday competition: why don't they have 9 innings per side, each side bats till (say) 3 are out, then the other team goes in for its "inning". The winner, after each has had its nine innings, is the one with most runs; if it's a tie, they can go to extra innings - or has that been done already? 
Re: Yorkies in the sunshine
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 19/08/2009 04:48
For a lomg time I have thought that the fielders should be allowed to wear at least one glove, the ball is quite hard.
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