It's a Start
5-fer for the Newbie
By Grockle
April 6 2011
A friendly 3 day game against the local rivals from Bristol is the first game of this season on the virgin turf of Taunton. The weather is a mixture of the last vestiges of winter and glorious Spring sunshine and the commentary team numbers 13 with 90% of them under the gae of 16.....interesting times.
v Gloucestershire (Friendly) @ Taunton Sunday 3 April 2011
A 12 a side game with 11 batting (it ended up as 13 v 12 but no-one was really counting). The squad for the home side included
Trescothick, Suppiah, Compton, Buttler, Trego, Gregory, Merchede, Barrow, Hussain, Waller, Dibble and Willoughby.
No prizes for those guessing who would not be batting. We think that the visitors won the toss and put us into bat on an overcast Sunday - simply because it seemed sensible to bowl first.
The pitch was the "constant" thing on a surface of a number of greens! It looks like the ground needs a fortnight yet to be completely sorted, quite a lot of grass on some bits of the outfield and others a little less dense, patches of different colours in many places and evidence of work being done in some areas while others look ready to go.
The Ondaatje Pavilion looks good after its makeover with something like 800 white seats in two stands replacing the older green seated enclosure that was there last year. The erectors were putting the finising touches to its 'livery' during this game and it will be ready for the start of the season. Other than that there are not that many cosmetic changes to the ground. Most of the changes are on the pitch in the form of our 'second tier' of prospective players for the county.
Gloucestershire have also got a whole bunch of new faces. Many have had to be brought in because of the outright evacuation of familiar professionals from the county at the end of last season. More than one of their bowling attack have a couple of new Somerset players (Gamaal and Steve) for their summer contracts and their presence in this side. Nevertheless the old opening partnership stride out to face the venom of Payne and Saxleby and latter finds that bowling to Marcus Trescothick is nothing like delivering to a second eleven wannabee. 8 off the first 3 deliveries makes Saxelby re-assess but Payne is more of a handful and he has Arul ajudged LBW in his second over by another new face Umpire Burns!! I don't think his former team mate was over impressed with the decision of his former captain...it seemed straight, it might have been a little high. This brings Nick in early but he gets into the swing quickly and the two Somerset men start to push the score along in overcast conditions mostly at the expense of the River end bowler (Saxelby and then Lewis) while the impressive Payne causes them far more problems.
The skipper passes 50 just before his side passes 100 and he looks like a century certainty until he edges one of Payne's to Dent and goes for 63 at 123. Only 6 runs later and Compo reaches 50 as well only to then try and flip one from Norwell down the legside where the ever alert Batty pouches the ball in one hand after a full length dive. We are at 129 with new men Buttler and Trego at the crease.
Lunch arrives and then the two men look to move the score past 200 in the afternoon session. Unfortunately Payne has other ideas and skittles Jos at 151 to usher Barrow to the crease followed by rain for three hours with only another 10 runs added.
The rain finally gives up after pulling the groundstaff on and off for most of the afternoon and we get play for about another two hours eithere side of an early Tea. Pete goes to 50 and Alex went but Lewis Greogry stayed with him until the end of the first day with over 260 up.
Monday goes past in a blur I am afraid as that is the day when a bunch of students do the commentary so unfortunately details have to come from the official site but when you go back there there is no search facility to find material that has gone from their front news page!
So - Marcus declared with 406 on the board including a good 87 from batting allrounder Gregory he looked good with the bat after getting his timing sorted on Sunday evening. We then took the Glos opener Cockbain first ball courtesy of Charl Willoughby who didn't seem to need a 'sighter' before getting the ball on the money. They went on to accumulate 140 courtesy of a fighting innings of 60 odd from Batty. Hussain blew away 5 of the others and Gregory, Charl, Max and Pete got a run out and cleaned up the rest.
By the afternoon we were batting again after the skipper did not ask the visitors to follow on and instead sent Arul and Alex in again. It looked like he wanted to give those who hadn't had time at the crease a second chance to get their eye in and allowed that to happen until the afternoon of Day 3. Then he let the bowlers loose again and had the Bristolians at the brink of defeat before the game came to an end as a draw. Good run out on the home pitch. Good performances from most batsmen in one of the two innings and a good run out from Hussain who managed predigious bounce and got his first Taunton five fer against his old team mates.
What's more the teams of commentators on Monday did their job and watched Somerset blow a side away for the first and hopefully not the last time at home in 2011.
v Cardiff UCCE Friendly @ Taunton Vale Saturday 9 April 2011
It's a Start -The Friendlies
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Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 11:30
Good Morning one and all
On Monday 4 April Somerset will be playing Day 2 of a 3 day game against the Bristolians at the County Ground, weather allowing.
I've arranged a little outing for some Year 10's from Uffculme school in Devon to provide ball by ball commentary for that day;
a) to give them experience for their Media Studies course
b) to give them a taste of live cricket
c) to give fans who won't be able to get to our last friendly some insight into what might be the closest first team line-up before the start of the season 10 days later.
The idea is that teams of two/three students will take an hour each of the game and provide commentary on about 13 overs each.
All of them will have never been on live radio before. Lots of them will be having a crash course in cricket in the next three weeks to get them up to speed with the game and many of them will be ladies.
If anyone is about that day I'd like to ask you for your help and support by using the messageboard to ask questions and support their efforts. I've no idea how it will go and I may be stepping in occasionally to help out but it's good of the club to support the school's idea and it may at least allow some of you an early listen to the what's going on on the field before the Warwickshire game starts on the 14th.
Just thought I'd give you early warning.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:03:30:17:06:32 by Grockle.
On Monday 4 April Somerset will be playing Day 2 of a 3 day game against the Bristolians at the County Ground, weather allowing.
I've arranged a little outing for some Year 10's from Uffculme school in Devon to provide ball by ball commentary for that day;
a) to give them experience for their Media Studies course
b) to give them a taste of live cricket
c) to give fans who won't be able to get to our last friendly some insight into what might be the closest first team line-up before the start of the season 10 days later.
The idea is that teams of two/three students will take an hour each of the game and provide commentary on about 13 overs each.
All of them will have never been on live radio before. Lots of them will be having a crash course in cricket in the next three weeks to get them up to speed with the game and many of them will be ladies.
If anyone is about that day I'd like to ask you for your help and support by using the messageboard to ask questions and support their efforts. I've no idea how it will go and I may be stepping in occasionally to help out but it's good of the club to support the school's idea and it may at least allow some of you an early listen to the what's going on on the field before the Warwickshire game starts on the 14th.
Just thought I'd give you early warning.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:03:30:17:06:32 by Grockle.
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 11:49
Excellent idea. Lets hope the weather is kind. If not, perhaps they could interview some players on air while waiting for the weather to clear!
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 12:35
If the weather is poor OB the game will move to Taunton Vale and we can't really commentate there I'm afraid.
The present plan IS to intereview a player at lunchtime - there are a couple of students with a bit more cricket knowledge preparing for that.
The present plan IS to intereview a player at lunchtime - there are a couple of students with a bit more cricket knowledge preparing for that.
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 12:37
Sound to me like a teacher’s day out.
A very good idea Grockle that will give them some practical experience and maybe some of them will become interested in cricket if they are not already.
Normally the friendly matches are over on the flats side of the ground so if the new stands are not finished it shouldn’t make any difference. All we want is some drying weather and we should be ok.
A very good idea Grockle that will give them some practical experience and maybe some of them will become interested in cricket if they are not already.
Normally the friendly matches are over on the flats side of the ground so if the new stands are not finished it shouldn’t make any difference. All we want is some drying weather and we should be ok.
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 12:56
It's not a working day for me Mike but as I'll be there anyway it lets the school do it without having to cover another teacher for the whole day.
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 13:05
A few more days like today will do a world of good to help dry the ground, the sun is quite warm today.
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 14:23
A few more mild days so that I can get my garden dug before the season starts would help!
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 16:05
Trouble is it makes the grass grow and I don't want to cut it yet.
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 13/03/2011 17:07
That's an excellent initiative, Grockle. I will be overseas and probably out of contact, but otherwise I should have been pleased to participate in the way you suggest.
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2011 08:33
Excellent idea Grockle. I shall be sitting at my desk procrastinating working that day, so I'll try to join in as much as is practical/useful 
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2011 09:42
Yes, Grockle, I am afraid I will have little alternative other than to get the lawnmower out next weekend.
Let's just hope that the first day of the real season is as glorious as today's weather (or at least today's weather in London.)
Let's just hope that the first day of the real season is as glorious as today's weather (or at least today's weather in London.)
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2011 10:30
ss: don't you know that working is the thief of time?
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Glos Friendly Day 2 support please
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2011 11:59
I'm hoping to run the system through on the Sunday afternoon before Monday - the first day of the friendly - so keep your eyes on the streaming option. I'll need someone to tell me its working as there's just going to be me talking to myself in an empty ground except for 22 men some people in the Caddyshack and that elderly man and his canine.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 10:39
It looks to me like my first suggestion of the pitch being over on the “Ondaatje Stand” side of the ground may have been correct, the sight screen sheets are up in that position for that same pitch.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 17:21
hope the weather is good and you all have a good 3 days and the kids enjoy their time.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 18:09
They've covered a pitch on the Somersert Stand side this afternoon Mike - the one over that side looks like it is being prepared for the 14th possibly?
The Ondaatje is done - bit more 'Mecanno' than I thought it would be and it hasn't encroached on the concrete in front of the old shop as much as I thought it had. I would have taken a photo but my phone was out of battery.
The Ondaatje is done - bit more 'Mecanno' than I thought it would be and it hasn't encroached on the concrete in front of the old shop as much as I thought it had. I would have taken a photo but my phone was out of battery.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 19:21
That why I always carry a spare, I said on the redevelopment thread the space at the back is more than I thought it was going to be.
I think we will have to wait and see where the Sunday match is Grockle, Jason Kerr agreed with me that it was early to put the sight screen up for the 14th and it does look a long way over for a first class match.
All our question we be answered.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:48
I was there at 4 this afternoon Mike and that wasn't up. So I'm not sure what they are doing. As I say the strip you are on about had everything on it and they were staking out a wicket in front of Gimblett's as well with tarpaulins and covers.
No idea what is going on but it would be a flaming short boundary to the Somerset if they are planning ot use the one over that side for Warwickshire.
We'll find out on Sunday I suppose.
No idea what is going on but it would be a flaming short boundary to the Somerset if they are planning ot use the one over that side for Warwickshire.
We'll find out on Sunday I suppose.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 11:10
If you are looking for commentary it should be on...but I'm not sure it is. If anyone is getting it can they let me know please?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: youngen (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 11:37
It says that commentary if offline or disconected? Have they decided where mondays game will be?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 11:42
Thanks for that youngen. The game IS at the County Ground. Somerset are batting 53 for 1 in the 10th after losing Suppiah to Payne in the 4th for 1 LBW. Tresco is on 24 and Compton is on 20.
Lewis has just come on to partner Payne who is bowling well from the OP end. Saxelby opened with him and went for most of the runs.
I'll work on the commentary angle but it may not now happen until tomorrow.
Lewis has just come on to partner Payne who is bowling well from the OP end. Saxelby opened with him and went for most of the runs.
I'll work on the commentary angle but it may not now happen until tomorrow.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: youngen (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 11:47
Many thanks Grockle. Glad tomorrows game is at the County Ground! Hopefully the commentary will be up by then.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 12:53
Yep. I came in today to check things worked...good job too at the moment.
Presently Somerset are 129 for 2 losing the skipper for 63 at 123 caught by Dent off Payne (who has had a good morning)
Sorry that's for 3 as Compton flips the ball down the legside and is acrobatically caught by Batty for 50.
Jos and Pete in and Trigger straight off the mark with a boundary. 133 for 3
Presently Somerset are 129 for 2 losing the skipper for 63 at 123 caught by Dent off Payne (who has had a good morning)
Sorry that's for 3 as Compton flips the ball down the legside and is acrobatically caught by Batty for 50.
Jos and Pete in and Trigger straight off the mark with a boundary. 133 for 3
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 13:30
Thanks Grockle. If you are testing commentary there is no internet sound presently.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 14:35
Thanks Sloop. Nothing at this end at all and no-one to ask about it so I'm afraid the paln for tomorrow may not go ahead because I can't guarantee internet access at the ground.
Presently there is no play here because of heavy rain. They did come out again after lunch for long enough to see Jos Buttler bowled by Payne (the absolute pick of Gloucestershire's bowlers) at 151. He'd scored 12. Pete Trego is on 11 and Lewis Gregory had the chance to get off the mark with a single.
Lots of water on the covers and the umpires have just come out to have a look.
Presently there is no play here because of heavy rain. They did come out again after lunch for long enough to see Jos Buttler bowled by Payne (the absolute pick of Gloucestershire's bowlers) at 151. He'd scored 12. Pete Trego is on 11 and Lewis Gregory had the chance to get off the mark with a single.
Lots of water on the covers and the umpires have just come out to have a look.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 16:32
The commentary is sorted now. There will be some tomorrow and for the rest of today if we get cricket. The covers are off but there is grey stuff over us and rain has been pretty severe when it has come. We nearly got the covers off earlier but another spell put them back on again.
I will update at 4:45. If nayone listens can you please give me an idea of volume and quality if its not too much trouble.
Cheers
I will update at 4:45. If nayone listens can you please give me an idea of volume and quality if its not too much trouble.
Cheers
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 16:53
Could you please remind me as to how one accesses the commentary?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 17:01
Either click on Murali Kartik or go to www.cricketcommentary.co.uk/somerset (if that doesn't work then the 'slash' is the wrong way around).
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 17:07
Play to restart shortly...
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 17:22
Thank you - receiving you loud and clear.
Sorry to learn that Tractor is standing in his usual spot without any immediate company.
Sorry to learn that Tractor is standing in his usual spot without any immediate company.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 17:45
The outfield at Taunton IMO has deteriorated a great deal over a number of years. At one time, the ball used to travel across it, as if it were on a billiard table, but in recent times there have developed a number of dips and hollows. This has been very apparent when I have noticed the ball bobbing up and down on its way to the boundary.
I believe that much work was done on the outfield during the winter months to try to remedy this problem.
Have you noticed any improvement to date this year please?
I believe that much work was done on the outfield during the winter months to try to remedy this problem.
Have you noticed any improvement to date this year please?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 20:46
The first photos from the County Ground this year.
Marcus Trescothick hitting the first ball for 4 runs off I Saxelby.
This single brings up Marcus Trescothick’s 50 runs, the first 50 of many.
Marcus was looking good for a big score before hitting this to second slip off D Payne.
This seems to be one of Nick Compton’s favourites shots I seem to remember posting a shot like this from the Vale ground match.
Marcus Trescothick hitting the first ball for 4 runs off I Saxelby.
This single brings up Marcus Trescothick’s 50 runs, the first 50 of many.
Marcus was looking good for a big score before hitting this to second slip off D Payne.
This seems to be one of Nick Compton’s favourites shots I seem to remember posting a shot like this from the Vale ground match.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 21:00
We've also decided that Lewis Gregory has a signature shot - the legside 'punch'. Thanks for the phots and the company today Mike much appreciated.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 21:08
You are welcome Grockle it gave me an idea into what you have to do while commentating and appreciate the work you do on the mike. It must be easier when there are two of you, your eyes can’t be everywhere.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 21:30
Of course they can...unfortunately my memory and my ability to tell my right from my left has completely left me.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 21:40
Close of play score?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 21:50
Somerset 265 for 4
Not out batsmen - Lewis Gregory and Peter Trego
Not out batsmen - Lewis Gregory and Peter Trego
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 22:28
Great - they must both have a few...at least 50?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 22:46
Lewis Gregory 40no
Peter Trego 63no
Peter Trego 63no
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 23:15
Good to see Steve Kirby coaching two of the young Somerset fast bowlers out in the middle during the lunch interval at Taunton today. I wonder if that is one of his roles with his new club.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2011 23:34
Sorry. Chasing around making sure everything was OK for tomorrow.
We think Glos won the toss and out us in.
Arul out for 1 at 14 in the fourth LBW to Payne (given out by Mike Burns)
Marcus out at 123 for 63 caught Bent off Payne
Compo out for 50 flipping down the leg side well caught by Batty off Lewis ( I think)
Jos Buttler bowled by Payne at 151 for 12
Rain for about 3 hours
Lewis and Pete back on at 161 and took the score to 264 by the end of the day.
We lost 38 overs to the weather.
We think Glos won the toss and out us in.
Arul out for 1 at 14 in the fourth LBW to Payne (given out by Mike Burns)
Marcus out at 123 for 63 caught Bent off Payne
Compo out for 50 flipping down the leg side well caught by Batty off Lewis ( I think)
Jos Buttler bowled by Payne at 151 for 12
Rain for about 3 hours
Lewis and Pete back on at 161 and took the score to 264 by the end of the day.
We lost 38 overs to the weather.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 09:25
Listened to your commentary on that final session Grockle. It was the first time I have tuned in me and it was good.
I'll be tuning in more when throughout the summer.
I'll be tuning in more when throughout the summer.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 09:43
Quote:cricketjerry-mouse
Good to see Steve Kirby coaching two of the young Somerset fast bowlers out in the middle during the lunch interval at Taunton today. I wonder if that is one of his roles with his new club.
As you say, Jerry, that must have been encouraging to see.
"One of his roles with his new club"? Whether it is or it is not, I admire any senior professional cricketer (whatever their own discipline of the game) who is prepared to spend time imparting some of his specialist knowledge and experience to assist a young player(s) who is (are) trying to make their way in the game.
In view of his considerable experience, I am sure that Steve Kirby has a lot to offer in this respect.
Well done to him.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 11:05
Sounds like a fairly encouraging outing for young Lewis Gregory.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 11:32
Just tuned in guys - good work so far.
What is the current score and how many have each batsman got?
What is the current score and how many have each batsman got?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 11:38
Commentary coming through loud and clear here in Coventry guys. Nice mix of descriptions of what's going on in play, plus some chat and facts between the overs. I'm enjoying it!
How are you finding it commentating on the cricket without the benefit of slo-motion replays?
How are you finding it commentating on the cricket without the benefit of slo-motion replays?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 11:39
I've put this on and it seems like two 12 year olds have broken into the commentary box. They haven't said the score for about 10 minutes. Bless them.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 11:41
Just read the first post Grockle. Excellent idea and I'm sure they will not forget this for the rest of their lives.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 11:58
Well done Connor and Ben - enjoyed your commentary. Good attempts to tell us where the ball was going and who was the striker and bowler. Told us about the weather etc.
Good volume Grockle - just occasional mic bumping/wind noise (?)
Good volume Grockle - just occasional mic bumping/wind noise (?)
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:06
Can I also just add that both the previous duo and the two people currently commentating (sorry, didn't catch your names) all have really nice clear voices and enunciation? I'm guessing that you haven't done much of this sort of thing before so it's pretty challenging, but although you might have occasional pauses to look up players' names etc, you're doing so with hardly any 'ums' and 'ahs' which is nice. Keep it up!
PS - don't forget regular mentions of the current score please. Some of us are sitting in offices, surreptitiously putting the headphones on every few minutes, so a quick reminder of the current state of play, to see what I've missed while trying to get some work done
, is great.
PS - don't forget regular mentions of the current score please. Some of us are sitting in offices, surreptitiously putting the headphones on every few minutes, so a quick reminder of the current state of play, to see what I've missed while trying to get some work done
, is great.Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:10
Well done the new guys - haven't caught your names yet.
Following Shep's comments it would be really good if at the end of every over you gave the score and which batsman has what score (that's what they tend to do on the Telly!).
Following Shep's comments it would be really good if at the end of every over you gave the score and which batsman has what score (that's what they tend to do on the Telly!).
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:17
I don't seem to be able to get the commentary using usual way the same as Grockle said.Is there any secrets I don't know?
Uffculme is listening
Posted by: jonnospace (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:20
A 1000 students and staff are currently listening at Uffculme school so no pressure guys - good job so far.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:25
Rob I am using this link successfully
[www.cricketcommentary.co.uk]
...if it isn't working on the Play bar try the 'Click here for live stream' (You sure you've got your sound turned on (!))
Somerset have just declared so there is 10 min silence.
[www.cricketcommentary.co.uk]
...if it isn't working on the Play bar try the 'Click here for live stream' (You sure you've got your sound turned on (!))
Somerset have just declared so there is 10 min silence.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:26
BR go to the messageboard and click on Murali Kartik and it shold take you to the commentary
www.cricketcommentary.co.uk/somerset
www.cricketcommentary.co.uk/somerset
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:35
Don't get asd far as commentary John.I get a message do you want to save file and then it goes haywire.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:37
Could anyone please tell me how many Lewis Gregory made?
I suspect we'll make rather short work of the Gloucestershire batting.
I suspect we'll make rather short work of the Gloucestershire batting.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:38
Done that Grockle.Still the same.
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Pigeon
Posted by: jonnospace (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:39
Wheres the pigeon gone ? Has he moved stands ?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:40
Gregory made 87 we think. Scoreboard cleared almost immediately
Steve Kirby interview at 1:05 - any questions?
Steve Kirby interview at 1:05 - any questions?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:47
ask him the obvious Grockle. Hows his injury and will he be fit for Warwicks. Cheers!!!
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:49
Sounds like an excellent start to the year for Lewis then.
I have, I guess, the obvious question for Mr Kirby - does he still believe he can force his way into the England set-up?
I suppose the other obvious one is;
"Do you think there's a big difference in terms of the quality of the batting between divisions one and two?"
I have, I guess, the obvious question for Mr Kirby - does he still believe he can force his way into the England set-up?
I suppose the other obvious one is;
"Do you think there's a big difference in terms of the quality of the batting between divisions one and two?"
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:56
Will do people.
Thanks for the help and messages of support - much appreciated
Thanks for the help and messages of support - much appreciated
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sid Valley (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 12:58
Hi Grockle,
I'd be interested to know which of the young Somerset players have impressed Steve Kirby and why (those that didn't play first team cricket last year)?
Thanks.
I'd be interested to know which of the young Somerset players have impressed Steve Kirby and why (those that didn't play first team cricket last year)?
Thanks.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:01
Is Steve Kirby glad he no longer has to bowl to Marcus Trescothick and who is the best batsmen he has bowled to over the years?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:01
I would be interested in Steve's take on the 'Somerset approach' to cricket and how it might differ from Gloucs.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:02
That's an excellent question, Sid Valley.
Commentary
Posted by: jonnospace (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:03
Excellent first time commentary to lunch. Very well done.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:08
West Indies has a very good lady cricket commentator called Donna Symmonds.
I can see that before too long, we in England are going to have one to match her.
Well done Lauren and Amy. I am thoroughly enjoying it, and I hope that everyone from Uffculme School are having a good and enjoyable day.
I can see that before too long, we in England are going to have one to match her.
Well done Lauren and Amy. I am thoroughly enjoying it, and I hope that everyone from Uffculme School are having a good and enjoyable day.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sid Valley (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:17
The interview with Steve Kirby was excellent and a lovely way to pass my lunch break! Thanks to the very professional interviewers and the engaging interviewee.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:28
Yep he and they were good weren't they.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:51
Hi guys,
Just tuned back in after a break. Any chance you could recap the wickets that have fallen in the Glos innings please?
Sounds like the current commentators have drawn the short straw with Glos not being particularly attacking in their batting!
Thanks
Just tuned back in after a break. Any chance you could recap the wickets that have fallen in the Glos innings please?
Sounds like the current commentators have drawn the short straw with Glos not being particularly attacking in their batting!
Thanks
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:52
My internet connection has been off for nearly 4 hours!
Sorry to have missed your commentary.
Can you research how many of the Somerset team on the field now were born in Somerset? Supporters always like a good number of local lads in the team.
Sorry to have missed your commentary.
Can you research how many of the Somerset team on the field now were born in Somerset? Supporters always like a good number of local lads in the team.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 13:55
Gloucestershire already collapsing then, are they?
I can't think of another County that has been so consistently bad with the bat over the past 6 or 7 years or so.
Too late now but could have asked Steve Kirby whether he was looking forward to a reasonable prospect of having good totals on the board to bowl at!
I can't think of another County that has been so consistently bad with the bat over the past 6 or 7 years or so.
Too late now but could have asked Steve Kirby whether he was looking forward to a reasonable prospect of having good totals on the board to bowl at!
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:02
Is the ball swinging around in the cloudy conditions?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:04
Any chance of the scoreboard being up on Grockles Grockle?
Missed the Kirbs interview. Will there be a chance of downloading/listening to the interview later? Or you perhaps doing a summary for the site sometime?
Missed the Kirbs interview. Will there be a chance of downloading/listening to the interview later? Or you perhaps doing a summary for the site sometime?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sid Valley (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:06
Hi, I've come late to this match and wonder if you could recap on who is in the Somerset team at some point. Thanks.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:07
Not got the tech to record it I'm afraid not enough laptops I'm afraid.
Will summarise the stuff I heard later today hopefully.
The scoreboard is up on Grockles for most games but this one is not being covered by the main sites. The only place this scorecard would exist is in the Somerset press box i'm afraid.
Will summarise the stuff I heard later today hopefully.
The scoreboard is up on Grockles for most games but this one is not being covered by the main sites. The only place this scorecard would exist is in the Somerset press box i'm afraid.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:15
Hi Grockle,
Just to let you know that the commentary has been breaking up here for about the last ten minutes - it's clear when I can hear it but it's cutting out for a second at a time every few seconds. I'm not sure there's anything you can do about it, mind!
Just to let you know that the commentary has been breaking up here for about the last ten minutes - it's clear when I can hear it but it's cutting out for a second at a time every few seconds. I'm not sure there's anything you can do about it, mind!
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:17
It was doing it to me earlier. If you stop it and start again it cleared it at my end - nothing else I can do I'm afraid.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:18
Does Hussain bowl faster than Willoughby?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:24
That's sorted now thanks Grockle.
Big welcome to 'the girls' - ignore any sarky comments from your male colleagues!
Big welcome to 'the girls' - ignore any sarky comments from your male colleagues!
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:34
Here's a question for you - after you've finished your commentary stint today, will you be more likely to take up watching or playing cricket?
My hobbies, incidentally (as you asked about this a few minutes ago) include (a) encouraging women's participation in cricket, and (b) trying to get Grockle to use apostrophes ...
My hobbies, incidentally (as you asked about this a few minutes ago) include (a) encouraging women's participation in cricket, and (b) trying to get Grockle to use apostrophes ...
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: dyce74 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:48
Loving the commentary girls, best of the day so far. Making me laugh and keeping up to date with the action, well done.
A question for you - Have you enjoyed your day at the cricket?
A question for you - Have you enjoyed your day at the cricket?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 14:50
Well done to all the students of Uffculme School for their commentaries. You all did very well in situation which must be stressful.
Hope your enjoyment and knowledge of cricket has been enhanced and that you take up playing, watching or even commentating again soon!
Hope your enjoyment and knowledge of cricket has been enhanced and that you take up playing, watching or even commentating again soon!
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 15:14
And some final comments from me before I go and do all the stuff I've been putting off most of the afternoon ...
Major plus points
All the comentators I heard spoke really clearly: you were all very engaging, enthusiastic and clearly comfortable at being in front of the microphone. It was a pleasure to listen to you. You also picked up really well on requests and suggestions, e.g. to give the score at the end of each over.
Points which might improve
The main thing here is actual cricket knowledge - who each player was, which part of the field the ball was hit to, etc. I guess when you're watching the cricket it can be hard to describe it to someone who can't see what you're seeing and who has to rely on your voice to tell them what's going on.
It's interesting to note that the 'points which might improve' are due to a relative lack of experience, and not any kind of inability to commentate. I guess you probably learned first-hand just how difficult it is to keep a live commentary going, and how much research the normal commentators must put in before they start each game.
Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed your day. You certainly brightened up my day in the office, so many thanks!
Major plus points
All the comentators I heard spoke really clearly: you were all very engaging, enthusiastic and clearly comfortable at being in front of the microphone. It was a pleasure to listen to you. You also picked up really well on requests and suggestions, e.g. to give the score at the end of each over.
Points which might improve
The main thing here is actual cricket knowledge - who each player was, which part of the field the ball was hit to, etc. I guess when you're watching the cricket it can be hard to describe it to someone who can't see what you're seeing and who has to rely on your voice to tell them what's going on.
It's interesting to note that the 'points which might improve' are due to a relative lack of experience, and not any kind of inability to commentate. I guess you probably learned first-hand just how difficult it is to keep a live commentary going, and how much research the normal commentators must put in before they start each game.
Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed your day. You certainly brightened up my day in the office, so many thanks!
The Pigeon
Posted by: willemjones (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 16:21
Today was pretty confusing, but I've learnt a lot. Definitely not going to take up commentating cricket any time soon though.
PLEASE KEEP ME UPDATED ABOUT THE PIGEON!!
PLEASE KEEP ME UPDATED ABOUT THE PIGEON!!
Re: The Pigeon
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 16:54
I haven't been able to listen to the commentary today. Can anyone tell me What the score is at the moment?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 16:59
Gloucestershire made seven. And, following on, they are five for eight.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 17:06
so we will win by an innings and 3,000 runs then?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: cidercyber (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 17:08
Glos all out 144.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 17:38
Somerset did not enforce the follow on and are presently 14 for 0 after 9 with Alex Barrow opening with Arul Suppiah.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 17:49
Spent a pleasant 90 mins at HQ from just before tea.
Team looked good in the field. Hussain looked Class and took a deserved 5 wickets.
Max bowled a few overs towards the end of their innings and beat the bat a few times - and took the last wicket.
Team looked good in the field. Hussain looked Class and took a deserved 5 wickets.
Max bowled a few overs towards the end of their innings and beat the bat a few times - and took the last wicket.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 19:33
How many time have you listened to a commentary on the radio and wondered what the people looked like, this is a photo of the talented students you all heard today on the cricket commentary.
I have to say they seemed very nice and I am glad I met them.
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Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 19:40
Sorry I missed all the commentary (working in an office and going to too many meetings), but it seems they all did extremely well - congratulations!
PS In the pic, which one's Grockle?
PS In the pic, which one's Grockle?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 20:28
I'm the little one!
Their day. They didn't need a fat 50 year old in their picture?
I'm the one who doesn't look like a cricketer on the official website :-)
Their day. They didn't need a fat 50 year old in their picture?
I'm the one who doesn't look like a cricketer on the official website :-)
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 20:38
They are all dressed tidier than you Grockle.
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Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2011 21:52
Day 2 Photos.
Jos Buttler tossing the ball up after catching Will Gidman bowl by Lewis Gregory.
I wondered who would be the first to hit a six Willoughby or Hussain, Willoughby did not bat so it was a six to Hussain off Will Gidman.
Craig Meschede hit Will Gidman for a four but he got his revenge by bowling him.
Chris Dent was caught by Pete Trego bowled by Charl Willoughby.
Jos Buttler tossing the ball up after catching Will Gidman bowl by Lewis Gregory.
I wondered who would be the first to hit a six Willoughby or Hussain, Willoughby did not bat so it was a six to Hussain off Will Gidman.
Craig Meschede hit Will Gidman for a four but he got his revenge by bowling him.
Chris Dent was caught by Pete Trego bowled by Charl Willoughby.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 12:11
Any play this morning?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 15:09
At lunch Somerset have moved onto to 81 for 3 with Suppiah 46* and Buttler 3*.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 15:12
I hope we have another pre-season game against a more worthy opponent? By this I mean one that will provide a closer facsimile to the kind of opponent we will face in CC1.
We got caught cold last year because we did not play in round one and then went to play Yorks (who had played in round one) and got well beaten (the only time we were well beaten all season long.)
We are not playing in the first round this year, either.
Does anyone know if Warks ARE playing on Friday?
We got caught cold last year because we did not play in round one and then went to play Yorks (who had played in round one) and got well beaten (the only time we were well beaten all season long.)
We are not playing in the first round this year, either.
Does anyone know if Warks ARE playing on Friday?
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 15:22
thy play Durham Uni on Friday AG so they are not playing in the first round either.
We play Cardiff Uni in a 3 dayer commencing Sat.
Sounds like slow going this morning!!! Looks like batting practice to me rather than forcing the result.
We play Cardiff Uni in a 3 dayer commencing Sat.
Sounds like slow going this morning!!! Looks like batting practice to me rather than forcing the result.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 15:24
That's good to hear, Ronnie, (about Warks.)
I'm not sure if Suppiah has shown much form in other build up games, so would guess he's taking his time to get some leather on willow.
I'm not sure if Suppiah has shown much form in other build up games, so would guess he's taking his time to get some leather on willow.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: JonR (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 16:16
I popped down in my lunch hour and saw Suppiah hitting a few lovely straight drives, and he was starting to look quite comfortable. My 'reporter' at the ground has informed me that he was out 3rd ball after lunch though.
Trigger was trapped LBW for 14 and Buttler was out for 24 before we declared on 135.
Willoughby took an early wicket and Gregory has just taken a 2nd to leave Gloucs 73/2. There were 48 overs left to play when they began their innings, so I guess there's a small chance we could bowl them out.
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Trigger was trapped LBW for 14 and Buttler was out for 24 before we declared on 135.
Willoughby took an early wicket and Gregory has just taken a 2nd to leave Gloucs 73/2. There were 48 overs left to play when they began their innings, so I guess there's a small chance we could bowl them out.
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Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 16:20
With Gloucestershire, I would say it's more "probable," as opposed to "possible," although of course it will depend whether Marcus elects to "go hard," for the win, as opposed to giving everyone a bowl etc
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 16:46
They don't look to have sorted out their fragile batting line-up. I realise there are others to join but it looks very shaky.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 16:56
sounds like our batting in the second dig has been none too clever either right enough!!!
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 17:05
Watched an hour after lunch when Jos and Tregs were batting. Never seen a greener wicket at Taunton.Both batsman struggled to a get a bat on ball as it was moving all over the place. Also never seen the outfield at slow.Have they just re seeded the whole ground?It looks like they've dropped in areas of new turf
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 17:13
If the track is doing all sorts for the bowlers then things sound very, very grim for Gloucestershire on the bowling front, too.. i.e if we ran up the sort of total that we did in conditions that are loaded in favour of the ball.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/04/2011 21:41
Day three photos.
Not very entertaining today with both teams going for batting and bowling practice.
What made up for it was the company of the fathers of Alex Barrow / Jos Buttler and James Fuller (Gloucester) and I also met “old boy” today.
I did tell them not to look on here tonight.
Nick Compton was bowled by Liam Norwell.
Jos Buttler was bowled by James Fuller.
The club has got this wicket wrong as you can see Ian Cockbain was bowled by Max Waller and not caught by Alex Barrow, it may be corrected by the time you check.
As you can see the wicket keeping duties was taken over by Alex Barrow today and he had some difficult balls to deal with.
Alex Barrow bowled by Will Gidman.
Not very entertaining today with both teams going for batting and bowling practice.
What made up for it was the company of the fathers of Alex Barrow / Jos Buttler and James Fuller (Gloucester) and I also met “old boy” today.
I did tell them not to look on here tonight.
Nick Compton was bowled by Liam Norwell.
Jos Buttler was bowled by James Fuller.
The club has got this wicket wrong as you can see Ian Cockbain was bowled by Max Waller and not caught by Alex Barrow, it may be corrected by the time you check.
As you can see the wicket keeping duties was taken over by Alex Barrow today and he had some difficult balls to deal with.
Alex Barrow bowled by Will Gidman.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 08:59
Some really fabulous photos there Mike! And I can see what everyone means about the wicket ...
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 09:02
Yes I spent an interesting hour at the ground yesterday. Delighted for the young cricketers to see such dedicated parental support. Also a pleasure to watch Grockle's very own 'Lord Snowden' at work. I'm sure we are all grateful to
Mike BOS for the service he provides.
Mike BOS for the service he provides.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 09:36
Great photos, Mike, for which many thanks.
It looks like not only was the wicket green but it "played green," as well which it often does not do at Taunton even when it looks green.
The batsmen that were bowled look like they were completely, totally and utterly beaten i.e that they got their bats nowhere near the ball which suggests either "magic balls," or quite horrendous errors on their part.
It looks like not only was the wicket green but it "played green," as well which it often does not do at Taunton even when it looks green.
The batsmen that were bowled look like they were completely, totally and utterly beaten i.e that they got their bats nowhere near the ball which suggests either "magic balls," or quite horrendous errors on their part.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 11:43
Some super shots again Mike.
The alignment of the bowler and Alex Barrow's front leg suggests the batsman got an inside edge (?)
The alignment of the bowler and Alex Barrow's front leg suggests the batsman got an inside edge (?)
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 12:28
Can I please ask for some information from people who have used the commentary feed for long periods in the past and on Sunday/Monday.
We recorded some of the student commentary on Monday and have found that the commentary seems to start to break into short pieces with silence between after about 20 minutes of consistent listening. If you reset the website then the feed remains to normals but breaks up again after about another 20 to 30 minutes.
Has anyone else experienced this in earlier seasons? If not was it a common experience yesterday with people who listened.
I've let the club know but need to find out if it was a common problem or something we experienced at the Ground. Any comments welcomed.
It's the reason we didn't get the Steve Kirby interview I'm afraid.
We recorded some of the student commentary on Monday and have found that the commentary seems to start to break into short pieces with silence between after about 20 minutes of consistent listening. If you reset the website then the feed remains to normals but breaks up again after about another 20 to 30 minutes.
Has anyone else experienced this in earlier seasons? If not was it a common experience yesterday with people who listened.
I've let the club know but need to find out if it was a common problem or something we experienced at the Ground. Any comments welcomed.
It's the reason we didn't get the Steve Kirby interview I'm afraid.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sid Valley (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 13:38
Hi Grockle, I experienced the break ups in the online commentary feed exactly as you described on Monday.
Last season the online feed did break up from time to time, but not with the the same regularity or frequency as it did on Monday. A simple 'refresh' fixed it each time and was not required regularly enough to become a pain.
Last season the online feed did break up from time to time, but not with the the same regularity or frequency as it did on Monday. A simple 'refresh' fixed it each time and was not required regularly enough to become a pain.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 13:53
Yes.It kept breaking up after about 15 min.Can't remember a similar problem last year.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 15:07
Me too Grockle - it was like listening to Norman Collier!
Closed the feed and started again and it cleared. That might suggest a caching/memory prob on local machine but if several people got it obviously a generic prob.
Don't remember the prob last season.
Closed the feed and started again and it cleared. That might suggest a caching/memory prob on local machine but if several people got it obviously a generic prob.
Don't remember the prob last season.
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 15:21
Refreshed and heard every word of Kirby's interview
Re: Weekend Glos Friendly
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/04/2011 17:40
Good Nelliec. The trouble was we were recording it on one machine with no way of monitoring it and the feed started to break up halfway through the first question because it was recording from the girls coming on to commentate at 12:45.
It might be possible to edit the silence out but it would be a hell of a job with about 30 edits per minute!!
It might be possible to edit the silence out but it would be a hell of a job with about 30 edits per minute!!
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/04/2011 08:38
Have I made a bad mistake with my photos? The BEP are saying that Ian Cockbain was caught at the wicket, I must be missing something. [www.thisisbristol.co.uk]
Edited to put photo in.
The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]
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Edited to put photo in.
The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:04:07:08:42:29 by Mike BOS.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 07/04/2011 09:02
Perhaps that isn't Cockbain Mike.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/04/2011 09:05
It is easy to make that mistake Rob!
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/04/2011 09:55
Perhaps the keeper's reflexes are so fast that he first caught the edge, then stumped the batsman and got his gloves back away from the stumps, and all in the time that it took for Mike to take this photo?
After all, Mike's photo does not show the ball hitting the stumps....
After all, Mike's photo does not show the ball hitting the stumps....
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 07/04/2011 10:11
He was very caught Mike! Caught out by a delivery that trimmed his bails!!
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/04/2011 12:37
Well people I am glad I have sorted it out, I have just returned from the media/press open day and the best person to ask is the bowler.
I have been correct all along he was bowled by Max, and Max knew they have it wrong.
I will post photos of the press call team photos later today, I have an appointment this afternoon so it will not be until this evening at the earliest.
I have been correct all along he was bowled by Max, and Max knew they have it wrong.
I will post photos of the press call team photos later today, I have an appointment this afternoon so it will not be until this evening at the earliest.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/04/2011 15:47
I have my first photo on the clubs web site, you have all seen it on page five. [www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk]
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/04/2011 15:51
Good job, Mike.
But what I really want to know is this;
Are the club going to start taking your superb photographs of the actual cricket?
But what I really want to know is this;
Are the club going to start taking your superb photographs of the actual cricket?
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/04/2011 16:00
I am a bit hesitant to do that accept for the odd one, there are others that do it for a living.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Kentish Townie (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 18:07
Very good to see such a green wicket that will hopefully favour bowlers and therefore results. It builds on the progress of last season.
The lush outfield too is encouraging as it would keep the ball shiny and prevent the kind of boundary fest that's becoming all too prevelant.
The lush outfield too is encouraging as it would keep the ball shiny and prevent the kind of boundary fest that's becoming all too prevelant.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 20:52
What lush outfield?It's a mess.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 21:14
You can still see the drills from the reseeding and now with this dry weather it could harm any growth unless the whole outfield is watered regularly.
You can see this from close up not looking at photos.
You can see this from close up not looking at photos.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 21:41
To back Rob up this photo was taken in front of the OP next to the net area and it is like it all over the outfield. There may not be a problem when it is dry but when it gets wet it will soon get muddy.
In the Gloucester match the bowlers had trouble just off the square where the outfield had the top taken off
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 21:48
Thanks for that Mike.Your picture shows exactly what I said.
I wish people wouldn't comment on things they nothing about as it gives a false perspective to others.
I wish people wouldn't comment on things they nothing about as it gives a false perspective to others.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:14
I wasn’t going to post that photo Rob but you have to be there to see it.
That edge just off the square I was taking about where the outfield was lowered can just be seen right at the bottom of the photo posted above the last one, although it is not very easy to see.
That edge just off the square I was taking about where the outfield was lowered can just be seen right at the bottom of the photo posted above the last one, although it is not very easy to see.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 23:39
Not knowing anything about a subject has never stopped me posting up to now,Rob.
Why alter the habits of a lifetime!
Why alter the habits of a lifetime!
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 02:27
I had noticed that Bobstan but I am too modice to tell you.I'm glad you realise it as there are others that don't.
Re: It's a Start
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 07:59
The outfield looks a bit like a cat with a skin complaint.
Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 13:12
Worcestershire are 80-5
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 13:17
82 for 6 at lunch. Willoughby bags a couple and Dibble has taken four.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 13:35
Has he indeed!? Interesting...
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Sid Valley (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 13:41
Thanks NW5 - very good to hear.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 16:19
At tea, Worcester have declared on 195 for 9 with Dibble being the pick of the bowlers taking 4 for 27.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 19:03
So what happened after tea ?
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 19:25
The, ahem, superhighway must have got clogged up with holiday traffic after tea. That was the last tweet.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 19:34
This is what I look forward to each year the first day of cricket.
Jack Shantry bowler Max Waller
Ben Cox bld Lewis Gregory.
Arul Suppiah and Marcus Trescothick opening the batting for Somerset.
Very nice weather to start the season off.
I only stayed until 5.30.
Jack Shantry bowler Max Waller
Ben Cox bld Lewis Gregory.
Arul Suppiah and Marcus Trescothick opening the batting for Somerset.
Very nice weather to start the season off.
I only stayed until 5.30.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 19:57
Blimey - looks like August!
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Connaught Opener (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 20:03
We're 92 for 2 at close. Trescothick 32, Suppiah 24. Compton and Buttler not out in teens according to latest tweet.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 20:03
How green does that wicket look!
At close of play Somerset moved onto 91 for 2 with Tresco scoring 32, Suppiah 24, Compton 16* and Buttler 15*
At close of play Somerset moved onto 91 for 2 with Tresco scoring 32, Suppiah 24, Compton 16* and Buttler 15*
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2011 20:03
BUT what happened after tea???
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 13:06
Somerset 166-5
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 15:02
So that's a "tidy spell," to quote the official site of 2 for 19 and some useful runs from Lewis.
It does sound as though SCCC had the better of conditions, though, with the pitch being really lively first up, yesterday.
That being the case, it does not appear that SCCC are, as yet, in as strong a position as one might hope.
It does sound as though SCCC had the better of conditions, though, with the pitch being really lively first up, yesterday.
That being the case, it does not appear that SCCC are, as yet, in as strong a position as one might hope.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 15:12
if it were a Championship game we would be struggling.....but is only a friendly so I wont put too much on it.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 15:35
jus heard....Somerset declared at lunch. We now have them 5 down.
4 for Willo and 1 for Hussain
4 for Willo and 1 for Hussain
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 15:43
Is this just a 2 day game, then, or three?
Sounds like a decent performance with the ball, given that they said yesterday that it did all sorts up front and then less later on.
Sounds like a decent performance with the ball, given that they said yesterday that it did all sorts up front and then less later on.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 15:46
just a 2 day AG. Apparently Wocs were 4 for 4 in the 2nd innings at one point.
Trego has scored no runs and taken no wickets at this point.
Trego has scored no runs and taken no wickets at this point.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 15:49
4 for 4?
I guess it might well be swinging a lot for Willow and that's what they could not cope with.
Not a good start to the new season for the Worcs' top order because they struggled badly in the first dig, too.
I guess it might well be swinging a lot for Willow and that's what they could not cope with.
Not a good start to the new season for the Worcs' top order because they struggled badly in the first dig, too.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: gniyfidom7 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 19:24
what happened by the close please people?
i had to leave at lunch
i had to leave at lunch
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 20:17
gniyfidom7 can I direct you to the other site [www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk] all the details are there.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: gniyfidom7 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 21:06
thanks mike, seen it already
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 21:44
Sounds like Compton had a morale boosting performance.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 22:36
Gregory also seems promising. Very slow pitch and although it was great weather it was a bit turgid.
It's funny at Taunton Vale - everyone looks huge out in the middle.
It's funny at Taunton Vale - everyone looks huge out in the middle.
Re: Somerset v Worcestershire - pre-season friendly score update
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2011 22:50
This was a good work-out for the lads.
Nick Compton did look good I liked how he dealt with this short ball from Matt Mason.
Charl Willoughby looking like he is going to be good this season beating the bat quite a few times this one bowling Moeen Ali.
I didn’t see Peter Trego bowl many overs but he still managed to bowl Gareth Andrew.
Happy days.
Nick Compton did look good I liked how he dealt with this short ball from Matt Mason.
Charl Willoughby looking like he is going to be good this season beating the bat quite a few times this one bowling Moeen Ali.
I didn’t see Peter Trego bowl many overs but he still managed to bowl Gareth Andrew.
Happy days.
Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 02:24
The squad for today's three day game v Cardiff MCCU is
Marcus Trescothick
Arul Suppiah
Nick Compton
James Hildreth
Craig Kieswetter
Jos Buttler
Peter Trego
Lewis Gregory
Gemaal Hussain
Max Waller
Charl Willoughby
Adam Dibble
Steve Kirby is still recovering from a calf injury and Mendis will be arriving next week.
Marcus Trescothick
Arul Suppiah
Nick Compton
James Hildreth
Craig Kieswetter
Jos Buttler
Peter Trego
Lewis Gregory
Gemaal Hussain
Max Waller
Charl Willoughby
Adam Dibble
Steve Kirby is still recovering from a calf injury and Mendis will be arriving next week.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 08:38
My information about Steve Kirby was that he was fine with no reaction from his injury but it was a case of not risking it too soon.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 11:05
I will be there this afternoon, lovely and sunny.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 12:58
Marcus and Arul seem to be enjoying themselves - 109/0 just before lunch.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 13:26
Steve Kirby is playiing for seconds in weeK
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 19:00
Some good form from some of the batsmen.
It looks like Dibble was preferred to Lewis Gregory? Is that likely to be a pointer towards selection, should Kirby be unable to make the Warks game?
It looks like Dibble was preferred to Lewis Gregory? Is that likely to be a pointer towards selection, should Kirby be unable to make the Warks game?
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 20:23
More likely to be giving Dibble a run out. Little possibility that Steve won't be ready. He was bowling at full belt during the break today. Looked fit.
Aren't you supposed to put the batting in context AG?
Aren't you supposed to put the batting in context AG?
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 20:36
No photos today (I didn’t take many anyway) I am trying to use some new software to use with my ‘RAW’ photos and understand it before next weeks match, if I get it working to my satisfaction I will take photos only in the ‘RAW’ format in future.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 20:50
A good day in the sun today.Just what the doctor ordered.
As Grockle said don't worry about Steve playing next week,he looked as fit as a fiddle and even had a net batting.Nice to see our lower order taking their batting serious,and good to see Gemaal show he can bat a bit.
As Grockle said don't worry about Steve playing next week,he looked as fit as a fiddle and even had a net batting.Nice to see our lower order taking their batting serious,and good to see Gemaal show he can bat a bit.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 20:53
Context Grockle?
Well, all of our guys that were quoted on the website (beforehand) said that Taunton Vale is usually a very good batting wicket. Then again, so is the ground on which we are scheduled to play Warks on Friday.
I assume the attack for Cardiff was not overly challenging, but I wasn't there so that's just a guess.
I hope the forecast for the second half of next week is either wrong or will be subject to significant revision.
Well, all of our guys that were quoted on the website (beforehand) said that Taunton Vale is usually a very good batting wicket. Then again, so is the ground on which we are scheduled to play Warks on Friday.
I assume the attack for Cardiff was not overly challenging, but I wasn't there so that's just a guess.
I hope the forecast for the second half of next week is either wrong or will be subject to significant revision.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: PaddedUp (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 21:25
Mike, (Non photo types needn't bother with this...)
Good luck with your RAW shots. I have only shot in RAW for a year or so as the ability to manipulate the images when you get home is infinitely better than if you shoot JPEG. The only time I would recommend shooting JPEG is if you really need to be able to send or upload photos immediately - most people aren't able to display RAW images at home and websites can't - but most of the time I shoot RAW.
Shooting RAW does mean a bit of extra work when you get back, but I'm sure you won't go back to JPEG once you get the hang of it.
If you are still getting to grips with the software my main tip from experience is not to overdo it with the sliders. Some of my shots from last year I now know I ruined by over-sharpening and over-saturating in particular.
Also, you will get nothing like the number of shots on a memory card if you shoot RAW (perhaps as few as one eighth the number; RAW files are huge). I got caught out once on this...
I too have some new software for this season and am already impressed with the significant extra features and the far better final images that are produced. Hopefully we will both be pleased with the shots we get this season.
Good luck with your RAW shots. I have only shot in RAW for a year or so as the ability to manipulate the images when you get home is infinitely better than if you shoot JPEG. The only time I would recommend shooting JPEG is if you really need to be able to send or upload photos immediately - most people aren't able to display RAW images at home and websites can't - but most of the time I shoot RAW.
Shooting RAW does mean a bit of extra work when you get back, but I'm sure you won't go back to JPEG once you get the hang of it.
If you are still getting to grips with the software my main tip from experience is not to overdo it with the sliders. Some of my shots from last year I now know I ruined by over-sharpening and over-saturating in particular.
Also, you will get nothing like the number of shots on a memory card if you shoot RAW (perhaps as few as one eighth the number; RAW files are huge). I got caught out once on this...
I too have some new software for this season and am already impressed with the significant extra features and the far better final images that are produced. Hopefully we will both be pleased with the shots we get this season.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 21:31
It was something you said about a century made against a university side earlier in the week I think. Just thought consistency ought to be maintained.
Gemaal certainly looked at home with a bat and came in at number 8 (shorter tail perhaps AG). He hasn't really got a batting average as he is relatively new to all this at this level.
Gemaal certainly looked at home with a bat and came in at number 8 (shorter tail perhaps AG). He hasn't really got a batting average as he is relatively new to all this at this level.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 21:39
It wasn't me, I don't think, who said that about the century against a university team.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:04
PaddedUp.
I have been taking photo in both formats for several years because the software I was using and liked would display but not edit RAW photos, this gave me twice as much work to do each night renaming/tagging them.
I know there are many Photo editing software about and I don’t want anything too fancy so I am using Nixon’s own software ViewNX 2 this allows me to crop RAW’s and then covert to JPG for uploading to my web site.
I am going to shoot in just RAW tomorrow and see how much time it takes me tomorrow night.
I have been taking photo in both formats for several years because the software I was using and liked would display but not edit RAW photos, this gave me twice as much work to do each night renaming/tagging them.
I know there are many Photo editing software about and I don’t want anything too fancy so I am using Nixon’s own software ViewNX 2 this allows me to crop RAW’s and then covert to JPG for uploading to my web site.
I am going to shoot in just RAW tomorrow and see how much time it takes me tomorrow night.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: PaddedUp (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:14
Oh right, sorry, got the impression you were just starting to try RAW. Last season I was using the software that came with my Canon, which I assume will be similar to the Nikon. Shooting RAW added a lot more work in the evening, but the difference in end result easily made it worthwhile.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:17
I hope you don't shoot in the raw tomorrow.You were cold enough today Mike.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:19
think it was me who made the comment re a century v unis in a tete a tete with old boy who was waxing lyrical re a Blackwell century. I made the point I would be more impressed if it were made in more difficult circumstances which I also do here.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:25
No need to apologise PaddedUp, it is always good to talk photography.
It was strange using the software for the first time tonight after I had cropped the first RAW photo I thought it was going to overwrite the original photo until I noticed the ‘Save as’ button, problem solved.
It was strange using the software for the first time tonight after I had cropped the first RAW photo I thought it was going to overwrite the original photo until I noticed the ‘Save as’ button, problem solved.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:31
is the forecast that bad? I saw light showers on Thurs but nothing after that. Just need to rip them out if that is the case then AG.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/04/2011 22:37
ronnies, Thursday is a long time where the weather is concerned a lot can change between now and then.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 12:27
Hussain's figures look somewhat alarming. Do we have any correspondents on the ground today? Is he spraying it around?
A great strength of SCCC last season was the parsimony of our attack. We cannot afford to have anyone going around the park at five an over so let's hope this is just a blip.
A great strength of SCCC last season was the parsimony of our attack. We cannot afford to have anyone going around the park at five an over so let's hope this is just a blip.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 12:41
And is Dibble bowling really well?
No doubt Hussain will have the inside track on a starting place but will events here be giving Brian and Marcus pause for thought.
No doubt Hussain will have the inside track on a starting place but will events here be giving Brian and Marcus pause for thought.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 12:43
You are right, AGod.
We are all doomed - doomed I tell ya.
We are all doomed - doomed I tell ya.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 13:02
G didn't seem to be spraying it around but they are chasing a lot so maybe they decided to get into it - the openers in these games tend to be the best batsmen in the side.
Remember it's Taunton Vale and not the County Ground where he took a five-fer earlier in the week.
Remember it's Taunton Vale and not the County Ground where he took a five-fer earlier in the week.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 22:10
Interesting line in the Somerset website report from Taunton Vale today.
It says that Hamza Siddique, the only Cardiff MCCU batter to show any form with 118 from 173 balls, has just signed a summer contract.
But it doesn`t say with whom. Can they mean us? If not, why mention it.
It says that Hamza Siddique, the only Cardiff MCCU batter to show any form with 118 from 173 balls, has just signed a summer contract.
But it doesn`t say with whom. Can they mean us? If not, why mention it.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 22:20
Well he looked good yesterday and we could do with the batting cover seeing as our only specific batsman cover is a few hundred miles North in Durham.
But I doubt it is with Somerset - you'd assume it would be Glamorgan.
But I doubt it is with Somerset - you'd assume it would be Glamorgan.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 22:28
I thought that Hamza Siddique was registered with Derbyshire; I may be wrong though.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 22:31
What I have seen today watching James Hildreth set my pulse racing, James came in at the fall of the first wicket 97 for 1 @ the close of play the score was 209 for 1.
A partnership of 112 with James scoring 88 of them off 48 balls.
I can’t wait for the season to start on Thursday.
A partnership of 112 with James scoring 88 of them off 48 balls.
I can’t wait for the season to start on Thursday.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 22:47
Yep Derbyshire is what Cricinfo says but they may also be wrong.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 22:53
T Friend, Willoughby almost getting through his defence.
T Friend lbw Charl Willoughby after giving him a difficult time.
My first photos with different software, the first time I upload them they were too large I have now made them smaller.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 23:05
Cracking day for April 10th.
Siddique looked very comfortable, impressed with him.
Like the look of Dibble too, good to have cover whilst Alfie is away.
Hussain looked fine to me, will not be writing him off just yet.
Hildy starting to look like Marcus in his peak years (not thats he's too shabby now), just that bit better than everybody else, long may it continue...
Roll on Thursday, lets hope rain doesnt hamper our inevitable 24pts...
Siddique looked very comfortable, impressed with him.
Like the look of Dibble too, good to have cover whilst Alfie is away.
Hussain looked fine to me, will not be writing him off just yet.
Hildy starting to look like Marcus in his peak years (not thats he's too shabby now), just that bit better than everybody else, long may it continue...
Roll on Thursday, lets hope rain doesnt hamper our inevitable 24pts...
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 10/04/2011 23:36
Siddique played for Derbyshire seconds last season
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 13:01
It is spotting with rain in Taunton.
Nick Compton 114 no
J Hildreth b Denning 141 88 balls
Jos Buttler not out 7
Total 332 for 2 (57.0 overs)
Nick Compton 114 no
J Hildreth b Denning 141 88 balls
Jos Buttler not out 7
Total 332 for 2 (57.0 overs)
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 13:10
Not going for the win then!! Some 500 ahead. Hildreth was phenomenal yesterday. I don't know what he hit 50 off but it was not a lot!
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:04:11:13:14:57 by Grockle.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 15:47
Looks like the win may well come anyway. Wickets shared out in the second dig.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 15:57
You'd have thought that Cardiff might have had a go at the win. They only needed 616 or thereabouts in quite a long time.
Poor show.
Poor show.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 17:23
Jos gets a wicket with his first ball in first team cricket.Is the no end to his talents?
Does anyone know if this game is cllased as first class?
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Does anyone know if this game is cllased as first class?
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Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 17:30
Beeb reporting Match Drawn - if so well done to the students for holding out even if it was a very good wicket.
Roll on the real thing!
Roll on the real thing!
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 17:36
Seems srange they called it off with 5 balls remaining in the over.Jos could have skittled them out or perhaps the students had a train to catch.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 17:59
It's not a First Class game, BristolRob.
Only some of the MCCU sides have been afforded First Class status, and Cardiff is not one of them.
Only some of the MCCU sides have been afforded First Class status, and Cardiff is not one of them.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 18:04
Thanks C.P. I didn't know which universities it applies to.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 18:19
I believe that Oxford, Cambridge, Durham and Loughborough are the ones that are regarded as First - Class, Rob.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: RadstockRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 18:28
Thanks C.P.again.It seems to ring a bell now that you've got the right ones.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 19:35
They called it off at 5:00 because I arrived back to see them strolling off as they had them well and truly against the wall with 6 down and under 3 figures on the board I'm a little surprised.
Though there was a hell of a wind all afternoon
Though there was a hell of a wind all afternoon
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 21:15
surely at 5pm there were lots of overs remaining?
first 2 days tea seemed to be 4.10-4.30 due to opening 2 sessions being 2h15m so at 8 wickets down at 5pm im guessing maybe bad weather, otherwise calling it off seems very odd???
wasn't there so hard to comment.
no reference to how match finished on main report...
first 2 days tea seemed to be 4.10-4.30 due to opening 2 sessions being 2h15m so at 8 wickets down at 5pm im guessing maybe bad weather, otherwise calling it off seems very odd???
wasn't there so hard to comment.
no reference to how match finished on main report...
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 22:13
The weather was fine WSM.
I left at the end of the Tea interval with them 6 down, I returned about an hour later to watch the end of the game but left the ground as the sides seemed to be leaving the field and people were moving to their cars. That was at 5/ I was in Taunton for another 45 mins and there was no rain or any other problem.
I can see that Somerset had seen all they needed to see, Max Waller was bowling just before Tea and Charl and Adam had had a good run out with Trigger taking a number of wickets before the break.
But still not sure why the game ended so early.
I left at the end of the Tea interval with them 6 down, I returned about an hour later to watch the end of the game but left the ground as the sides seemed to be leaving the field and people were moving to their cars. That was at 5/ I was in Taunton for another 45 mins and there was no rain or any other problem.
I can see that Somerset had seen all they needed to see, Max Waller was bowling just before Tea and Charl and Adam had had a good run out with Trigger taking a number of wickets before the break.
But still not sure why the game ended so early.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 22:32
It looks to me like Somerset wasn't concerned about winning and agreed to call it off.
As Grockle said Somerset got what they wanted from the game.
As Grockle said Somerset got what they wanted from the game.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/04/2011 22:44
Except Mike that one of the problems in the past has been being able to apply the coup de grace to turn a dead rubber into points so it possibly would have been good to see them put the University out of its misery in a professional manner and with overs left
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 07:02
Absolutely right, Grockle.
We have to go back to the days of Mushtaq and Caddick for really expert finishing off of 9, 10, Jack.
We have to go back to the days of Mushtaq and Caddick for really expert finishing off of 9, 10, Jack.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 07:54
I hear what you say, and to an extent I agree, but I think Mike is pretty close to the mark with his assessment.
All the lads got a good run out, the legs are stretched, the lungs aired and everyone is good to go.
There's not a great deal to be gained from knocking over a couple of spotty students, a few extra hours with their families at this stage of the season was probably a lot more appealing.
All the lads got a good run out, the legs are stretched, the lungs aired and everyone is good to go.
There's not a great deal to be gained from knocking over a couple of spotty students, a few extra hours with their families at this stage of the season was probably a lot more appealing.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 08:58
agreed BJ. I think they used the morning to practice their one day batting skills.
If they had really wanted to win the game I think they could have.
Batters got a bat and bowlers a bowl and Kirby and Mendis/Kartik can knock over 9, 10 jack anyway.
If they had really wanted to win the game I think they could have.
Batters got a bat and bowlers a bowl and Kirby and Mendis/Kartik can knock over 9, 10 jack anyway.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 09:05
It's one of those where I can sympathise with both sides.
It's quite painful sitting on the fence, you know.
It's quite painful sitting on the fence, you know.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 11:20
Almost agree but with Kirby not certain yet to play (though most likely) and Mendis getting off a plane today I personally would have liked to have actually seen that the bowlers out there could knock over a 'bunch of spotty students' rather than take it as read. If it was easy they would have still been home in time to read the kids a bedtime story.
We've come a cropper in this tail end scenario before in early games and just coz it looks like we can do it doesn't mean it's so.
Two days before the first it just seems a bit scrappy but if they are ready I suppose they are ready.
We've come a cropper in this tail end scenario before in early games and just coz it looks like we can do it doesn't mean it's so.
Two days before the first it just seems a bit scrappy but if they are ready I suppose they are ready.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 11:54
you've got to wonder why they didn't insist on getting Mendis here at the weekend so he can acclimatise bettwr. very stange although maybe its a visa issue.
I believe Warks are having those types of issue with Yousuf who doesn't actually arrive until tomorrow...bizarre!!!
I believe Warks are having those types of issue with Yousuf who doesn't actually arrive until tomorrow...bizarre!!!
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 12:03
There is no guarantee that Mendis will play on Thursday. (Though others can cope with AG's apoplexy if he doesn't :-)
There's also no full guarantee that Steve will play either (though all indications yesterday were that he is ready). In which case we could see Max in his first 2011 four dayer or Lewis Gregory and possibly Adam Dibble's debut as well with Arul taking the ball.
I'd personally rather see Max because a) Arul seems to be getting his batting sorted early this season and b) I'm increasingly curious as to what Waller has in his box of tricks this year.
It will all become clear at 11:00 on Thursday I'm sure.
There's also no full guarantee that Steve will play either (though all indications yesterday were that he is ready). In which case we could see Max in his first 2011 four dayer or Lewis Gregory and possibly Adam Dibble's debut as well with Arul taking the ball.
I'd personally rather see Max because a) Arul seems to be getting his batting sorted early this season and b) I'm increasingly curious as to what Waller has in his box of tricks this year.
It will all become clear at 11:00 on Thursday I'm sure.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 12:44
I hear what you say Grockle but I would be absolutely amazed if they go out their way to sign Mendis and then not play him.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 12:53
Going back to knocking over the tail, we did have a bowler who was excellent at it for a while, but not so good at getting the top order out at any sort of decent economy rate - David Stiff.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 14:09
Fear and speed CJM. I think Steve will bring plenty of the first and a better line and length to make up for the second.
They all ought to watch Maliga in the T20. He just bowls straight and full and waits for the batsman to miss it. I'm not sure what Steve K's yorker is like but hope to see a lot of it after Thursday.
That was the real difference at Taunton last season. Lots of wicket to wicket bowling on a length. Let them think its a batting wicket and then frustrate them by not letting them score.
They all ought to watch Maliga in the T20. He just bowls straight and full and waits for the batsman to miss it. I'm not sure what Steve K's yorker is like but hope to see a lot of it after Thursday.
That was the real difference at Taunton last season. Lots of wicket to wicket bowling on a length. Let them think its a batting wicket and then frustrate them by not letting them score.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 14:12
Steffan was useful at disposing of the tail, too.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 15:37
so if Steff, Alf and Stiff were all good at getting rid of the tail why are we saying that is one of our historical weaknesses?
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 16:34
Because none of them did it consistently and Steff lost the ability towards the end of his career at Somerset.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 17:01
so they really weren't that good at it then?
Hopefully Kirbs and the rest will be and consistently at that, cos we will need to be if we are to win.
If we had had it at Durham last year we would be championies.
Hopefully Kirbs and the rest will be and consistently at that, cos we will need to be if we are to win.
If we had had it at Durham last year we would be championies.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 18:39
One game they flayed 'em, the next it was like pulling teeth and as you say, Durham was one where the latter seemed to be the case. Shame the same backbone wasn't shown by the Lancastrians.....
I think the statement was that they all could do it...not that they did it all the time to be fair Ron.
You tended to see it more often in short form stuff where Alf was a master at it.
I think the statement was that they all could do it...not that they did it all the time to be fair Ron.
You tended to see it more often in short form stuff where Alf was a master at it.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 20:46
yep. only the bowler malinga wishes he was.
Im in taunton for Glam, worcs and glos games in may Grockle. Hope to see there, maybe grab a pint in the pavilion?
Im in taunton for Glam, worcs and glos games in may Grockle. Hope to see there, maybe grab a pint in the pavilion?
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 21:23
Well I'm about for some of them Ron but will be working some of the sessions and therefore will be dropping in and out but will keep an eye out for ya!.
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 12/04/2011 21:50
Joel was the best finisher of innings that I've ever seen.
Unsurprising, as most of the tail end (& a lot of the not so tail end) batsmen were - justifiably - scared out of their wits !
Grizzzly
Unsurprising, as most of the tail end (& a lot of the not so tail end) batsmen were - justifiably - scared out of their wits !
Grizzzly
Re: Cardiff MCCU at The Vale
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 13/04/2011 09:00
I'll definitely say hello at least Grockle.........as I say I'll be about all week so I will see you at some point.
Hopefully with a couple of good wins under our belt too!!!
Hopefully with a couple of good wins under our belt too!!!
Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 09:37
I'd said on here that I consider Gloucs and Cardiff to represent inadequte opponents against which to prepare for Div One.
Quite a few people here poo-poohed me for saying that.
I was therefore extremely pleased to read that this element of our preparation is now under review.
Our captain has said;
"We may have missed a trick by not preparing against a crack first division outfit."
So, there you have it, from the horse's mouth. This wasn't just something that I made up for the sake of it. It makes logical sense to prepare for relatively strong opposition by playing relatively strong opposition.
And it seems the club are now at least considering the same notion.
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Quite a few people here poo-poohed me for saying that.
I was therefore extremely pleased to read that this element of our preparation is now under review.
Our captain has said;
"We may have missed a trick by not preparing against a crack first division outfit."
So, there you have it, from the horse's mouth. This wasn't just something that I made up for the sake of it. It makes logical sense to prepare for relatively strong opposition by playing relatively strong opposition.
And it seems the club are now at least considering the same notion.
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Re: Pre-seaon preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 09:40
"There is no issue within the dressing room. I can't think of anything worse than being beaten in such a fashion. I know the other players felt it too and we move on, trying to use the experience as positively as we can.
I believe we may have missed a trick by not having one pre-season game against crack first division opposition and that is something we will look at for future years.
For whatever reason, Somerset have become notoriously slow starters and we can't afford to keep giving good sides an advantage over us after two or three games"
Our captain's quote.
I believe we may have missed a trick by not having one pre-season game against crack first division opposition and that is something we will look at for future years.
For whatever reason, Somerset have become notoriously slow starters and we can't afford to keep giving good sides an advantage over us after two or three games"
Our captain's quote.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 12:32
"Quite a few people here poo-poohed me for saying that."
Not me AGod. You were perfectly correct.
Not me AGod. You were perfectly correct.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 14:48
What has happened to the Aintree thread? It's disappeared completely from here?
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 14:58
We decided to implement a Stalinesque purge and pretend that this game was not happening...
But, seriously, it has become Bagpuss's guide to Liverpool (threads merged).
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But, seriously, it has become Bagpuss's guide to Liverpool (threads merged).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:04:22:15:01:55 by AGod.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 15:04
Yep Baggy's guide was the front end of the Liverpool thread (soon to be full of pages of disaster and doom once more) so I got a couple of minutes to merge them at lunchtime. Thought Liverpool in the title would guide people there...sorry. Got to get stuff done when I have the chance I'm afraid.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 15:27
Thanks very much AG and Grockle.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: SillyMidOn (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 15:43
It takes two to Tango, as they say.
Why is it a given that another Div1 team would want to play us pre-season this year? They might well think that a defeat to the best team in the land last year is not an ideal confidence booster to start the season, and avoid us for that reason.
Why is it a given that another Div1 team would want to play us pre-season this year? They might well think that a defeat to the best team in the land last year is not an ideal confidence booster to start the season, and avoid us for that reason.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 15:52
I'd think that any team with something about it would WANT to be challenged?
That's how you get better in any sport, in my view - you play against people that are better than you are.
Barcelona do not prepare for their season by playing Hereford United..... or at least that is certainly NOT the final tune-up game for the first team.
Gloucs have struggled for the past few years and then - partly because of SCCC - they've promptly been further weakened this winter. It isn't clear how anyone in our team was going to be greatly challenged by playing them.
Look at Gemaal Hussain. 5 for not very many, if I recall against them?
That might have given a boost to his confidence, but I would suggest it probably did not do enough to challenge him so as to help him hit top form..
That's how you get better in any sport, in my view - you play against people that are better than you are.
Barcelona do not prepare for their season by playing Hereford United..... or at least that is certainly NOT the final tune-up game for the first team.
Gloucs have struggled for the past few years and then - partly because of SCCC - they've promptly been further weakened this winter. It isn't clear how anyone in our team was going to be greatly challenged by playing them.
Look at Gemaal Hussain. 5 for not very many, if I recall against them?
That might have given a boost to his confidence, but I would suggest it probably did not do enough to challenge him so as to help him hit top form..
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 16:11
I'm sorry but were there loads of posts in January and February about the quality of our preparation or is this all another 'hindsight' revelation?
Quoting Marcus gives it some relevance and it now seems a way to work against what has happened up until now. But it is not the reason or the solution to what is happening here.
Marcus is, like the rest of us, clutching at any straws to provide a way to help stop this happening again. I doubt he thinks it's what caused this.
But do we have masses of evidence that the other Division 1 clubs played 'higher quality' opposition and have translated that into excellent starts?
Or is the opposition you have affected mostly by logistics and geography?
I don't know personally, but the opportunity to post 'told you so' should not camouflage that no-one really knows why this has happened to a side with batsmen in form in January or use it as the panacea for a early multi-level under achievement in nearly all areas of performance.
It might prepare us better. It may have no measurable effect at all and it may not be logistically possible unless the sides in our area become Division 1 sides which I think by AG's assessment of them is highly unlikely in his opinion.
But just because a captain under pressure to provide explanations cites it as a factor does not mean we have found the reason such a fundamental problem in the first fortnight. It's not the first time and it probably won't be the last even if we get Test status and play South Africa and Australia in early April.
Quoting Marcus gives it some relevance and it now seems a way to work against what has happened up until now. But it is not the reason or the solution to what is happening here.
Marcus is, like the rest of us, clutching at any straws to provide a way to help stop this happening again. I doubt he thinks it's what caused this.
But do we have masses of evidence that the other Division 1 clubs played 'higher quality' opposition and have translated that into excellent starts?
Or is the opposition you have affected mostly by logistics and geography?
I don't know personally, but the opportunity to post 'told you so' should not camouflage that no-one really knows why this has happened to a side with batsmen in form in January or use it as the panacea for a early multi-level under achievement in nearly all areas of performance.
It might prepare us better. It may have no measurable effect at all and it may not be logistically possible unless the sides in our area become Division 1 sides which I think by AG's assessment of them is highly unlikely in his opinion.
But just because a captain under pressure to provide explanations cites it as a factor does not mean we have found the reason such a fundamental problem in the first fortnight. It's not the first time and it probably won't be the last even if we get Test status and play South Africa and Australia in early April.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 17:17
I think, Grockle, that what Marcus is suggesting is that it may be a reason for the habitual slow starts, which is also what I mean.
I agree that this particular start has been so bad that a pre-season game against a better team than Gloucs would not have been the difference between the sixth heaviest CC defeat ever and actually beating Warwickshire.
Indeed, it's more likely that, had we had better preparation (in this respect) last season, that we might well have avoided losing both of those first two games last season.
As for the hindsight thing, I had given no thought in the winter. BUt, when we were cutting swathes through Gloucs in the pre-season game, this point did occur to me, and I said then 'I hope our next pre-season game is against a tougher opponent than Gloucs,' not knowing that the final preparation game was actually going to be against Cardiff University!
So, I'd worked out the potential for the problem before the season started but I had not previously thought about it during the winter. Of course, it isn't actually my job to think about such things during the winter.
Generally, I think it's the more northerly Counties that have started the season well. If the generally done thing is to play one's neighbours by way of pre-season preparation, then I would imagine that some of these teams would have played against each other.
I agree that this particular start has been so bad that a pre-season game against a better team than Gloucs would not have been the difference between the sixth heaviest CC defeat ever and actually beating Warwickshire.
Indeed, it's more likely that, had we had better preparation (in this respect) last season, that we might well have avoided losing both of those first two games last season.
As for the hindsight thing, I had given no thought in the winter. BUt, when we were cutting swathes through Gloucs in the pre-season game, this point did occur to me, and I said then 'I hope our next pre-season game is against a tougher opponent than Gloucs,' not knowing that the final preparation game was actually going to be against Cardiff University!
So, I'd worked out the potential for the problem before the season started but I had not previously thought about it during the winter. Of course, it isn't actually my job to think about such things during the winter.
Generally, I think it's the more northerly Counties that have started the season well. If the generally done thing is to play one's neighbours by way of pre-season preparation, then I would imagine that some of these teams would have played against each other.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 18:15
Surely if it was that obvious and our slow starts were so habitual we would have dealt with it before now - if it was possible to do so.
Do the Northern sides always start better? - this season is one season and the start is two games old so not really the one to look at. Wonder what has happenend in the past and whether it has related to the games they have played in the two to three weeks before the real start.
A "better" start with no preparation games at all for us last season (Cardiff Uni were the first game and were duly hammered). Did we play anyone - I have no record of any but haven't gone back into the report archives to check.
Since 2005 we've played local sides Glamorgan, Glos, Devon Cornwall and Cardiff Uni
I don't think the Uni game is a planned prep game we simply play them early in the MCC trophy or whatever it is called. We were supposed to play Glamorgan and we did play Worcestershire as well.
Great that it occurred to you - maybe a look at our usual prep would have shown that we were doing something we usually did.
I realise it isn't your job.
It's not your job to worry about who was batting at number 8 or the 'gap' in international representation around the last bit of May. Didn't stop you being very 'vocal' about those subjects as important considerations before the start of the season.
Prep being a contributing facgtor didn't occur to Marcus and Andy and didn't occur to most of us either. Until last week.
Do the Northern sides always start better? - this season is one season and the start is two games old so not really the one to look at. Wonder what has happenend in the past and whether it has related to the games they have played in the two to three weeks before the real start.
A "better" start with no preparation games at all for us last season (Cardiff Uni were the first game and were duly hammered). Did we play anyone - I have no record of any but haven't gone back into the report archives to check.
Since 2005 we've played local sides Glamorgan, Glos, Devon Cornwall and Cardiff Uni
I don't think the Uni game is a planned prep game we simply play them early in the MCC trophy or whatever it is called. We were supposed to play Glamorgan and we did play Worcestershire as well.
Great that it occurred to you - maybe a look at our usual prep would have shown that we were doing something we usually did.
I realise it isn't your job.
It's not your job to worry about who was batting at number 8 or the 'gap' in international representation around the last bit of May. Didn't stop you being very 'vocal' about those subjects as important considerations before the start of the season.
Prep being a contributing facgtor didn't occur to Marcus and Andy and didn't occur to most of us either. Until last week.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 18:35
Well, I think the slow starts are habitual. Marcus certainly seems to think so because he said so -- and not with the benefit of hindsight as he said it before the Warks debacle.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 19:14
Posters may well be right about Glo`shire as pre-season opponents, but we were given no choice over Cardiff MCCU.
The University matches are allocated by the ECB and you just have to get on with it.
Somerset may have been unfortunate to be paired with Cardiff this time, but if you look at some past seasons they were presented with anything but walkovers against student sides.
In 2004, Loughborough declared at 304-8 in their first knock and reached 154-2 in the second, after a certain Monty Panesar had helped bowl Somerset out for 379.
The following year, Durham UCCC called a halt to their first innings at 433-4 against an attack including Caddy, McLean, Johnson and Blackie, with Will Smith, later to captain Durham county, contributing 156 to a record first-wicket stand of 301,
In 2006, Cardiff UCCC declared at 302-5 in a rain-hit match. And in 2007, although Loughborough were hustled out for 72 in their first dig, they reached 224 second time round with useful knocks from two batters now Surrey players, Spriegel and Harinath.
Not a bad four years for Somerset`s pre-season student opposition.
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The University matches are allocated by the ECB and you just have to get on with it.
Somerset may have been unfortunate to be paired with Cardiff this time, but if you look at some past seasons they were presented with anything but walkovers against student sides.
In 2004, Loughborough declared at 304-8 in their first knock and reached 154-2 in the second, after a certain Monty Panesar had helped bowl Somerset out for 379.
The following year, Durham UCCC called a halt to their first innings at 433-4 against an attack including Caddy, McLean, Johnson and Blackie, with Will Smith, later to captain Durham county, contributing 156 to a record first-wicket stand of 301,
In 2006, Cardiff UCCC declared at 302-5 in a rain-hit match. And in 2007, although Loughborough were hustled out for 72 in their first dig, they reached 224 second time round with useful knocks from two batters now Surrey players, Spriegel and Harinath.
Not a bad four years for Somerset`s pre-season student opposition.
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Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 19:22
Well, Marcus was talking about one game against Div One opposition, so I suppose it would be the Gloucs game that would be replaced, then, as opposed to the University one, if the university one is compulsory.
I guess, Grockle, we'll see whether this is just Marcus floundering around for an explanation, or whether there will be a change in policy regarding a pre-season game for next season.
I guess, Grockle, we'll see whether this is just Marcus floundering around for an explanation, or whether there will be a change in policy regarding a pre-season game for next season.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: SillyMidOn (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 19:57
Lots of teams either don't play friendlies or don't put them on their fixture cards, but I do note that table topping Lancashire played 2 games against second division Kent (one abandoned, the other a draw) and Oxford University.
It seems their preparation against lower division foe did them no harm.
It seems their preparation against lower division foe did them no harm.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 20:11
Although Kent were at least in Div One last season. Still a stronger side (on paper) than Gloucs.
I might ask on the other SN boards do see if fans of the other teams know who their teams played against.
Still, if Lancashire played Kent twice (presumably home and away?) that does rather suggest that perhaps the cost angle should not be a barrier should we wish to play somebody less local. I believe both Lancs and Kent are up to their eyes in debt, whereas SCCC are not.
I might ask on the other SN boards do see if fans of the other teams know who their teams played against.
Still, if Lancashire played Kent twice (presumably home and away?) that does rather suggest that perhaps the cost angle should not be a barrier should we wish to play somebody less local. I believe both Lancs and Kent are up to their eyes in debt, whereas SCCC are not.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 20:41
Quote:AGod
Well, I think the slow starts are habitual. Marcus certainly seems to think so because he said so -- and not with the benefit of hindsight as he said it before the Warks debacle.
There ya go again.
No-one said the slow starts were some hindsight revelation for our captain or questioned that we had them.
I think the point was that the relationship between our preparation and our 'habitual' slow starts hadn't become glaringly obvious until very recently and certainly hadn't been identified as a major problem (if it is) well before the start of the season.
After the start to this season I don't blame anyone responsible for the performances looking at every aspect of our start and seeing if it can be improved. It has to be the right thing to do and can do no harm even if it has little effect.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 20:53
"After the start to this season I don't blame anyone responsible for the performances looking at every aspect of our start and seeing if it can be improved. It has to be the right thing to do and can do no harm even if it has little effect."
Well that much we can certainly agree on. I would think that many others would agree with that, too.
Well that much we can certainly agree on. I would think that many others would agree with that, too.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 21:00
Lack of pre-season preparation is just an excuse which may or may not relevant. What is clear is that Somerset's opponents would be looking at some change in their own personnel until those out-of-form could find some elsewhere. I accept that none of our existing XI have suddenly become long term failures, BUT there appears to be a complete lack of confidence at present, and some of them need time away from the 'heat of battle' to regain it.
I just hope that we don't start assuming that any 1 day reasonable successes necessarily equate to 4 day success.
I just hope that we don't start assuming that any 1 day reasonable successes necessarily equate to 4 day success.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 21:11
My opinion is that any pre season matches should be good enough to start the season off, to give that as a reason is only making accuses for a bad start to the season.
Next thing you know they will be blaming the pitches.
Edited - I put season instead of reason.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:04:22:22:31:46 by Mike BOS.
Next thing you know they will be blaming the pitches.
Edited - I put season instead of reason.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:04:22:22:31:46 by Mike BOS.
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 21:17
Come on, Mike, whenever have they blamed the pitches?
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Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2011 22:22
They'll be digging it up at the end of September anyway so the present one will not be a consideration next year.
(TIC)
(TIC)
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2011 08:42
You're correct, Grockle.
They will.
(NTIC)
They will.
(NTIC)
Re: Pre-season preparation
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2011 15:18
Lancashire played both of their pre-season matches away from home, a drawn match against Kent at Beckenham and a drawn match against Oxford Uni at the Parks. A third match against Ket also at Beckenham was abandoned. Old Trafford was not available to them for pre-season matches due to the work on the square over the winter. Maybe by playing away from home they helped their performance at a not-particularly-familiar Liverpool in those first two games of the CC.
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