The Dragons and the weather (which is also dragging on)
Snelly back again!
By Grockle et al
June 22 2012
Steve Snell joins us for the T20 once again as he takes over the gloves even though Jos is available. No internationals in this side to face Glamorgan but we ought to be glad we may get a game after the washout in Brum last night. Looks like we might start on time even.
v GLAMORGAN FPT20 @ Taunton Friday 22 June 2012
Alfonso watches his T20 side go through another transformation as the Saffers head back to Zim for the incredibly important T20 tournament. Craig Kieswetter is off with England and although Jos Buttler is still here we invite Steve Snell back to take up the gloves for this comptetition. George Dockrell is off on international duty so Max Waller will be asked to do the slow ball heroics - something he is already used to this T20 tournament. Almost everyone else who can play actually does. The sun is out...... but the cloud is black.
The side is;
Trego, Compton, Meschede, Buttler, Hildreth, Suppiah, Snell, Gregory, Thomas, Waller and Kirby. Alex Barrow is the twelfth man.
The crowd is sparse - not surprisingly though it is filling up and the sun is shining. People seem to think we'll get away with it... it'll make a decent change if we do because this is the one we need to win. Glmaorgan have won the toss and decided to bat first.
A minute's silence for Tom Maynard starts the proceedings this evening (came as a surprise to me I have to say). Marsh and North open for the Welsh Dragons (we didn't do anthems though it does seem to be the way Glamorgan want to look at it now... semi- internationals. Steve Kirby wil open from the OPand we are underway on time.
The first over is the usual aggression from Kirbs and one run from Marsh (with some excellent acobatic keeping from Mr Snell). Alf takes the second from the River and concedes the first boundary with his 5th. 7 after 2.
After 5 it's 23 for 0 with Lewis being introduced along with Meschede after two from Kirbs and one from the skipper although the captain brings himself back on for the 6th. The Welsh boys don't look in any particular trouble against any of our front 4 though Steve did get one past the bat in his second over. Nevertheless the infielding is good and with 31 on the board after 6 you'd think that Somerset would be happy with 5 an over.
Max is introduced from the OP for the 7th and nearly has North LBW off the toe with ball number one. He nearly gets him with a googlie ball two as North completely mistimes it. The slow fourth ball does for him completely and he is C&B'd for 17 popping the ball tamely up for the slow man to run in and pocket. 31 for 1 and North is absolutely disgusted while Max and his team mates are over the moon.
It's 56 for 1 after 10 but Alleby has now played himself in and by 2 balls into the 13th it's 97 for 1 when he dies at 33 due to a very cool catch running backwards from Pete Trego but the game is on because of him. Craig Meschede got murdered in the 12th going for 19 with Allenby hitting the first two sixes of the Welsh innings, one of which completely cleared the OP. 100 up at the start of the 14th with Van Jaarsveld joining Marsh.
With 5 to go it is 124 for 2 and Marsh has reached a 30 ish ball 50 with 1 six and 7 fours. Lewis takes the 16th and goes for 8 but Max takes the 17th and is taken for 18. The 150 is up as Alf returns for his last 2 with Steve K taking the one in between. He's being really tight until his last ball is put into the Tone by Marsh. 160 with 12 to come.
Steve, a bit of a scary choice in his early T20's has come on in leaps and bounds during this year. His 18th over is full of full length, difficult balls with finally causes Van Jaarsveld to try and go over the top, he fails and Kirbs gets a wicket. He goes for 5 and takes out the very dangerous Dragon. Well played.
The last over sees Marsh start on strike on 73 and Cook newly arrived at the wicket. Full length first one goes for 1. Ball 2 is a beaut which sees Cook's middle stump cartwheeling backwards and the batsman on his way back to the Caddyshack. Walters takes his place and nearly gets the same, managing to plop his bat on the ball and scramble a single. Marsh finds a gap on the Caddick boundary and takes the four. Alf mistakenly tries to bounce him and is clubbed for six to the same place. The final ball sees Marsh unable to get back for the second and they finish on 178 for 4. A score about par for here and no mean score for Somerset to pass.
The Reply
Compo and Trigger open against Jones from the OP and Nick is immediately off the mark with a single. The sun is pretty well out now and the crowd has improved considerably, suprising as it's 25 notes on the gate to get in (compared with 15 on the gate in Cardiff and 10 booked in advance)! Jones is on the money though and Pete finds the runs much harder to get from the rest of the over and scampers a risky one on ball number 5. 2 for 0 after the first. The second from the River is taken by James Harris, Pete swings and gets the smallest of bottom edges and is gone, caught behind, at the start of the second. 2 for 1 and in comes Craig Meschede far too early I'm afraid. Harris' fourth ball has CM fishing outside off and getting another feather - it's 2 for 2 and Jos in after only 10 balls!! Not sure whether that is a good or a bad thing if he shows the form he has in the last couple of games. Excellent double wicket maiden to Harris and Somerset in batting trouble for the umpteenth time!!
By the 4th Jos and Nick have a better handle on the game and Buttler looks in some kind of form. 24 for 2 is not where they would have wanted to be but it is better than 2 for 2. Unfortunately, this is when Compo plays on and Hildreth is called to the crease needing to play support to the young strokemaker if we are going to make a game of this!!. After 5 we have 28 and we are heavily in need of a significant partnership.
By 10 overs the two have pushed the score to 76 for 3 with them both taking runs from the Welsh. Glamorgan were 56 for 1 so we need to push along in the same way. Hildreth goes to 50 off 27 balls with 8 fours at 86 (10.4 overs) - he's looking for runs off every spinner ball as the Welsh rely on Cosker and Croft to hold Somerset in check. After 11 we have 88 but Croft keeps wheeling in and he gets Buttler plumb in front 2 balls into the 12th at 90 trying to swing a straight one down the leg side .
Arul is Hilda's next partner needing to double the score in the second half. 93 after 12. North comes on as the third spinner for the 14th with 3 figures on the very small scoreboard facing the pressbox. Hildreth scarily tries to slog sweep him into space but Arul goes for the straight hit over the bowlers' head for his next run. There aren't enough runs coming though as it is 105 after 14 overs meaning they need 76 off 6 overs or about 12 an over. Somerset need a BIG over and look to take it from Cosker in the 15th as Arul boundaries the first delivery. Hildreth sixes the third ball into the scoreboard stand but nearly skies himself back to the pavilion with the fourth ball which he top edges but lands safe. More circumspect with ball 5, he then reverse sweeps the last and takes 17 off the over. 122 for 4 plays 124 for 2 at 15 overs.
Glamorgan asks Croft to readdress the balance and the old campaigner does exactly that by tying Arul down at the start of the 16th. Suppiah tries to step away to cut one, it's too close and he goes for 18 at 126 bowled by the old Welshman!! Snell is out there to try and pull it home with James but it gets harder and it is really all down to JH if we are honest. 129 after 16 leaving 24 balls to get a big 50.
Over 17 includes 5 fours as Hildreth takes the game to the Daffies and although he is caught off an abovbe shoulder no ball, Harris goes for 24, we pass 150 and finish off 153 for 5. Snelly skies one and goes at 155 halfway through the 18th but Hilda goes for a brilliant 100 off 53 balls with 15 fours and a six.
Jones starts the 19th at 162 needing 18 off 12 balls with Lewis joining the centurion. We need a boundary but Jones is a canny bowler and keeps putting it in to the feet of the batsman. The last ball of the 19th is Jones versus Gregory and a misfield gives them 2 and a score of 169 needing 10 to win and Allenby to bowl from the River. Hildreth faces and flips a single but no more. Ball 2 sees Lewis smack a six off the CA boundary board. 3 to win. Ball 3 puts JH on strike needing 2. The bowlers and fielders have a chat and now the batsmen have a chat and then..... they take a single. 178 score tied and Gregory flips the ball over the infield for 4!! Somerset win with a ball to spare. What a great game and a superb batting performance from a certain Mr James Hildreth who leaves the field to a standing ovation!! Well doen also to Lewis Greogory who came in at a very difficult time and did his fair share of getting us home.
The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
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Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 19/06/2012 08:45
Somerset will once again have to rely on the youngsters this weekend with two important games against the bears and dragons.
We'll be without CK,Levi,Albie,O'Brien, Tres and George for both games one would assume,although Jos is apparently available for both.Whether we will see Snell now i'm not so sure.
Warks will also be missing Trott,Bell and Woakes so both teams will be well understrength.
The weather doesn't look good for thursday so I would personally settle for 3 points from the 2 games.
My personal choice;Trego,Compton,Meschede,Buttler,Hildreth,Barrow,Suppiah,Gregory,Thomas,Kirby,Waller
We'll be without CK,Levi,Albie,O'Brien, Tres and George for both games one would assume,although Jos is apparently available for both.Whether we will see Snell now i'm not so sure.
Warks will also be missing Trott,Bell and Woakes so both teams will be well understrength.
The weather doesn't look good for thursday so I would personally settle for 3 points from the 2 games.
My personal choice;Trego,Compton,Meschede,Buttler,Hildreth,Barrow,Suppiah,Gregory,Thomas,Kirby,Waller
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/06/2012 10:30
Huge onus on Jos in both games, IMO.
Fortunately, he seems to welcome such situations.
Fortunately, he seems to welcome such situations.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 06:51
Current forecast suggests we might get away with just a few showers on thursday and friday.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 07:44
Fear not, these are Pete's games.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 08:05
The latest stats for Somerset - [stats.espncricinfo.com]
We need some of our player lower down on the batting to start scoring a few more runs!
We need some of our player lower down on the batting to start scoring a few more runs!
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 08:17
Looking at that we are due for our two openers to perform ths week.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 11:57
Quote:geordie moonraker
Fear not, these are Pete's games.
I wonder if (sensibly) we've decided to give Pete a week or two off from bowling?
Or if he is just not really in the T20 bowling plans?
I think it would be sensible to have him do a bit of bowling after his week or so off from bowling, if only because that would mean he wouldn't be under as much pressure with the bat.
I suspect that most all-rounders are unused to a situation when the focus is entirely on one of their two suits and it probably creates added pressure. And Pete is probably already under enough pressure with the bat, with us being down 4 or 5 big hitters for these games.
Craig Meschede also did not bowl at all the other day and he certainly looked as if he was feeling the pressure when he came out with the bat!
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Reverse Swing (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 16:55
Steve Snell has been signed up to play in the next two games.
He was back training with the squad today.
He was back training with the squad today.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 17:14
I thought Jos was playing in the next two game?
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Reverse Swing (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 17:39
Jos will play just as a batsman, and I suspect will come in at 4 now. The management have decided it's better to parachute Snell in for these two games rather than play Barrow or Craig Overton. Seems logical enough to me with Snell's experience of domestic T20 and his performance in the Champions League last year.
I suspect Lewis Gregory will get the other spot (with Dockrell and O'Brien missing from Sunday's team).
I suspect Lewis Gregory will get the other spot (with Dockrell and O'Brien missing from Sunday's team).
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 19:02
Well Lewis got a five for on Monday for 2nds.
I think Craig Overton is worth a shot, think he could do a job at 8 with bat if needed and given our options with ball unlikely he'd have to bowl all 4 should he have any problems.
Saying that sure Snell will not let us down, not that the keeping seemed to adversely effect Jos's batting much on Sunday!
I think Craig Overton is worth a shot, think he could do a job at 8 with bat if needed and given our options with ball unlikely he'd have to bowl all 4 should he have any problems.
Saying that sure Snell will not let us down, not that the keeping seemed to adversely effect Jos's batting much on Sunday!
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 19:22
Appears both Overtons also unavailable due to A levels so i make that Sundays team, less Kevin and George, so then add 2 from 3, Snell, Barrow and Gregory, oh and Hussain too i guess.....
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 19:33
O'Brien had a contract for the first 5 games? or was that the first 5 games he is available to play in?
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 19:37
First 5 he was ok for i believe it was, hence he can do Tuesday and Friday next week, then there is option of last 3 possibly.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/06/2012 19:44
He took a while to get going vs Northants.. But he and Cam White were, I think, the only guys to muscle a six on the slow track.
I think I've seen enough that I'd be tempted to keep him on for the rest of the T20 campaign, possibly with a view to giving him an on-going deal to play one day cricket for Somerset (depending on how he goes in the rest of the T20.)
I think I've seen enough that I'd be tempted to keep him on for the rest of the T20 campaign, possibly with a view to giving him an on-going deal to play one day cricket for Somerset (depending on how he goes in the rest of the T20.)
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 10:10
It really brings it home what a young squad we have at the moment when you learn that the Overton twins are not available this week as they are taking `A` levels.
George Dockrell has put his place at Trinity College, Dublin, on hold for next year. I wonder what the Overtons` plans ae for university.
George Dockrell has put his place at Trinity College, Dublin, on hold for next year. I wonder what the Overtons` plans ae for university.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 11:11
I am sure that my natural place in the county side in the 50s was denied me because my dad said I had to concentrate on the 11+.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 12:01
I think we may start the game tonight but very much doubt we will finish it.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 14:27
Quote:cricketjerry-mouse
It really brings it home what a young squad we have at the moment when you learn that the Overton twins are not available this week as they are taking `A` levels.
George Dockrell has put his place at Trinity College, Dublin, on hold for next year. I wonder what the Overtons` plans ae for university.
I'm 99% sure that a poster on this board (although I thought it was you, CJM!) told us that the Overtons, unlike somebody like Chris Jones, are 100% certain that they wish to pursue long-term careers in cricket and that, therefore, they would be unlikely to bother with going to university any time soon.
Obviously, I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the info provided but I'm sure that one of our posters said that.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 16:20
The Bears squad for tonight is:
Jim Troughton (c)
Keith Barker
Neil Carter
Varun Chopra
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Ateeq Javid
Richard Johnson (wk)
Darren Maddy
Jeetan Patel
Paul Best
Steffan Piolet
Chris Wright
Jim Troughton (c)
Keith Barker
Neil Carter
Varun Chopra
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Ateeq Javid
Richard Johnson (wk)
Darren Maddy
Jeetan Patel
Paul Best
Steffan Piolet
Chris Wright
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 17:30
Glamorgan, who beat warwickshire under D/L rules in their last T20 match, also name a 13-man squad for Taunton tomorrow. They have spent heavily on recruiting in the hope of reaching this year`s finals at their home SWALEC stadium
They will open with their two Australian overses players, Shaun Marsh and Marcus North, with former Kent batsman Martin van Jaarsveld, who is now English qualified, at No.4.
Squad: Marsh, North, Allenby (c), van Jaarsveld, Walters, Wallace, Wright, Cooke, Harris, Cosker, Croft, Jones and Owen.
They will open with their two Australian overses players, Shaun Marsh and Marcus North, with former Kent batsman Martin van Jaarsveld, who is now English qualified, at No.4.
Squad: Marsh, North, Allenby (c), van Jaarsveld, Walters, Wallace, Wright, Cooke, Harris, Cosker, Croft, Jones and Owen.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 18:49
Gregory and Snell play; Barrow the one to miss out.
Warwickshire have won the toss and will bowl first.
Wonder if the weather will hold long enough for them to bat.
Edited because I got result of toss wrong (doh!)
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Warwickshire have won the toss and will bowl first.
Wonder if the weather will hold long enough for them to bat.
Edited because I got result of toss wrong (doh!)
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Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 19:41
Rain.Was starting to look promising.Think that might be it for tonight! Tommorrow looks good all evening.
Bit of luck for the club though with no home games affected so far.
Bit of luck for the club though with no home games affected so far.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 20:02
Looks very much like 6 points from 8 then after 4.
If we can get another home win tomorrow we'll be well set for the return of 4 big players for the last 5 games.
With so many draws the points for getting through could be very tight, i think even 11 or 12 could be enough, 5 wins and i think that'll do it
If we can get another home win tomorrow we'll be well set for the return of 4 big players for the last 5 games.
With so many draws the points for getting through could be very tight, i think even 11 or 12 could be enough, 5 wins and i think that'll do it
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 20:22
Covers coming off. 8.33 restart and 15 over a side. Though I wouldn't be surprised if there are more interruptions
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 20:40
Off again. 18 added in the 11 balls they managed to fit in.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 20:46
Mmmm - going to be the midsummer hokey-cokey methinks!
And here's me sitting on the patio under clear blue skies, sipping a soft red wine and waiting for the barbie to heat up.
Whoops - just woke up again and realised I was sitting in a large puddle. ;-)
And here's me sitting on the patio under clear blue skies, sipping a soft red wine and waiting for the barbie to heat up.
Whoops - just woke up again and realised I was sitting in a large puddle. ;-)
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 21:15
That's it. No result.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: just in (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 21:42
This match was destined to be one point each with the weather forecast accurately predicting rain from early evening...lets hope for better weather tomorrow although I have my doubts looking ahead...one never knows for sure..this evening, well batted Compo and Meschede putting us in a very good position should the rain have held off. I am puzzled at the team selection although it had no bearing...can anyone explain why Steve Snell was destined to keep wicket ahead of our very own talented keeper Jos Buttler?..surely a better selection was for Buttler to keep and Barrow to play? Is Barrow injured?his fielding is top notch and the boy can bat...strange?
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 21/06/2012 22:05
Is the reason for Snell playing not to do with if we qualify for the Champions League we need for him to have played in domestic T20 if we end up again without Craig and Jos for part of it or have I made that up as I went along!
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 13:23
Looks like we'll be lucky with the weather again.Makes a change after last year.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 13:53
Yep, complete opposite of last year when the rain destroyed the home programme but left the away programme largely untouched.
I tend to think this competition should possibly be moved to July (the first half thereof.) Should still be light enough. Historically the weather in July is quite a bit drier than in the first three weeks of June, and a little warmer.
Would avoid competing with a European soccer Championships every 2 years. And no need to compete with Wimbledon for media attention either.
I tend to think this competition should possibly be moved to July (the first half thereof.) Should still be light enough. Historically the weather in July is quite a bit drier than in the first three weeks of June, and a little warmer.
Would avoid competing with a European soccer Championships every 2 years. And no need to compete with Wimbledon for media attention either.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 14:23
How we looking at TA1? The BBC forcast suggest a nice batch of sunshine settling in for the duration.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 14:29
Not at this moment.
It is cloudy spotting with rain and the wind is strong.
It is cloudy spotting with rain and the wind is strong.
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 14:40
Is this one on TV too?
Re: Shooting bears and slaying Dragons
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 14:54
No, It should have been the England match on TV.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 17:24
Story up. Links to put on. Rain is staying away and we could start on time!!
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 17:32
Alfonso has lost the toss every T20 match s0 far this season. Perhaps our luck wll change when we are near to full strength again.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 17:35
Out of the traps in Taunton. Kirby first up - gonna get very dark if the weather stays like it is at the start. 1 run off the first over.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 17:44
Is it the same pitch yet again?
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 17:59
Max does for North all ends up. Nearly LBW ball one, Nearly googlied ball 2. Very subdued on ball 3 and fooled by the slow one ball 4. 31 for 1 Max strikes!
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 18:05
Maybe it's time for North to move to his seventh county...
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Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 18:29
We seem to have lost a bit of control since halfway. Did Arul have to bowl over number 2
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 18:52
Craig got some tap from Allenby... in fact Allenby had a bit of a bash.
Very impressed with Steve Kirby - wouldn't have picked him from choice in his first year for T20 but his 19th over was brilliant
Very impressed with Steve Kirby - wouldn't have picked him from choice in his first year for T20 but his 19th over was brilliant
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:20
Pretty much all on Jos again.
Levi's one game apart, we've made a horlicks of starting our T20 innings.
Levi's one game apart, we've made a horlicks of starting our T20 innings.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:23
So... Did we give away too many for the conditions or is it more a case of being out-gunned with the bat in good batting conditions.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: WyvernRose (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:26
Quote:AGod
So... Did we give away too many for the conditions or is it more a case of being out-gunned with the bat in good batting conditions.
from the commentary, questionable bowling choices (leaving Max and Suppiah on when they were being hammered around, not bowling Gregory for his full overs - is he injured again?) let them score too many.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:31
They should surely bowl Pete in a game soon?
If not then we risk having him come out of T20 with poor batting form and a bit rusty with the ball?
If not then we risk having him come out of T20 with poor batting form and a bit rusty with the ball?
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:42
Spinners against batsmen out for blood I think is the correct call. Alleby and Van Jaarsveld pushed it along nicely.
We;ve put ourselves in the noose by not taking early advantage. They are using Croft and Coskert in the middle but we are 20 ahead of them in terms of run rate at 10.
Interesting game
We;ve put ourselves in the noose by not taking early advantage. They are using Croft and Coskert in the middle but we are 20 ahead of them in terms of run rate at 10.
Interesting game
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:46
Sounds like great stuff from Hildreth, Grockle?
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:47
Drat and double drat.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:51
Yep, you expected him to come in and suport but he took the game on. Jos tried once too often to swing Crofty away and missed a straight one. Back leg. No chance. Plumb!
All down to Arul and Jimmy H now I'm afraid. 100 up at 12.4
All down to Arul and Jimmy H now I'm afraid. 100 up at 12.4
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 19:57
Most obvious question for Tuesday will be who opens with Richard Levi?
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:03
Heavy defeat for Worcs vs Warks.
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Posted by: just in (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:08
And Somerset thought it wise to bring in an Irish club cricketer ahead of Hildreth...more very odd thinking in my opinion!
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Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:11
My laptop seems to have developed a fault and is only showing the figure 4 at present.
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:14
Utterly unbelievable from Hildreth. I am dumbfounded.
Suspect Rose is too...
Suspect Rose is too...
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:22
Speechless. Stupefied.
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:25
I might have to go to Wantage Road on Tuesday, if forecast is dry, after that!!!
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Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:26
Why are you so incredulous and surpised, AGod. Hildreth has always been a class act and omitting him from the first match was a grave insult which he has very aptly addressed.
Si monumentum requiris, circumspice.
Si monumentum requiris, circumspice.
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Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:28
Amazing stuff - I'd have given anything to see Hilda's innings. (and well done to Lewis for his contribution!)
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:29
Because I do not recall him doing anything approaching that in a T20 game before, LoL.
I'm sure others will join you in criticsing the original decision.
BUT... Perhaps James re-appraised his game in the wake of being left out?
I'm sure others will join you in criticsing the original decision.
BUT... Perhaps James re-appraised his game in the wake of being left out?
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Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:30
How good to see Gregory performing so well again with both ball and bat.
But my computer had the same problem as Wickham's for a while; I think it must have got over-excited.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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But my computer had the same problem as Wickham's for a while; I think it must have got over-excited.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:36
So Lewis bowled well then? Did he get the ball up to the bat? Bowling short was his issue when struggling earlier in the season. Great news if he is back in rhythm.
So to Tuesday...
Levi to return surely as nobody else has done anything at the top of the order?
Morkel and Dockrell surely likely to return.
Kieswetter likely to be available? If so where should he bat?
O'Brien? Will he get a place?
So to Tuesday...
Levi to return surely as nobody else has done anything at the top of the order?
Morkel and Dockrell surely likely to return.
Kieswetter likely to be available? If so where should he bat?
O'Brien? Will he get a place?
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Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:38
Somerset`s aim was two wins out of three while they were without the SA and Irish contingent. They have actually done better than that, with the point from yesterday`s abandoned match at Edgbaston.
Meanwhile, Glamorgan will be stunned. For they have paid absolutely megga, megga bucks (including, I`m told, regional aid money from the European Union) to hire Shaun Marsh and Martin van Jaarsveld in a bid to reach this year`s final at their own SWALEC stadium.
They could still do it, of course, with the top two and two best thirds` going through to the quarters.
Meanwhile, Glamorgan will be stunned. For they have paid absolutely megga, megga bucks (including, I`m told, regional aid money from the European Union) to hire Shaun Marsh and Martin van Jaarsveld in a bid to reach this year`s final at their own SWALEC stadium.
They could still do it, of course, with the top two and two best thirds` going through to the quarters.
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Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:38
Oh
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Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:39
Wow
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:40
I'd still think they will be a decent outfit - probably tough to beat on their home patch.
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Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:40
Wow, went to dinner and we were in the mire, returned and Glamorgan are in even deeper.
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Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:41
Gregory did well with ball and bat - nothing special with the ball but certainly part of the end of this game (possibly should have been caught on the boundary but it would have been a hell of a catch). The end shot was just beautiful.
I also don't understand why you should be surprised about James Hildreth. When he has his eye in in any form of cricket he is almost impossible to bowl to and sublime in his shot selection and delivery. In this game he took the game to the Glams from ball one, passed Buttler without a glance and then just powered to the line irrespective of who tried to get him out.
This was Hildreth at his very very best and it was a joy to watch from beginning to end.
I also don't understand why you should be surprised about James Hildreth. When he has his eye in in any form of cricket he is almost impossible to bowl to and sublime in his shot selection and delivery. In this game he took the game to the Glams from ball one, passed Buttler without a glance and then just powered to the line irrespective of who tried to get him out.
This was Hildreth at his very very best and it was a joy to watch from beginning to end.
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:41
Have to say, though, CJM that in light of recent encounters that they have had at Taunton, Glamorgan are probably not much more than mildly surprised...
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Posted by: WyvernRose (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:46
just wow, what a game, was sure it had slipped away from us but Hildreth was just brilliant. His best T20 innings ever, I'm sure.
This season may not be going as planned but they have turned in some amazing performances at times, with pretty much the only eleven they have available. Incredible stuff.
This season may not be going as planned but they have turned in some amazing performances at times, with pretty much the only eleven they have available. Incredible stuff.
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 20:48
Levi for Compton.
Morkel for Craig M.
After that? Some pretty tough decisions for Brian and co for Tuesday?
Morkel for Craig M.
After that? Some pretty tough decisions for Brian and co for Tuesday?
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Posted by: belgraviaboy (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 21:04
What about Trego?
Not sure his form with the bat means that his place is nailed on.
Plus, the plan seems to be to rest his bowling for T20.
So, for me O'Brien ahead f Tregs.
Cheers
BB
PS is feel so bad suggesting this....
Not sure his form with the bat means that his place is nailed on.
Plus, the plan seems to be to rest his bowling for T20.
So, for me O'Brien ahead f Tregs.
Cheers
BB
PS is feel so bad suggesting this....
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Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 21:33
Quote:Grockle
Gregory did well with ball and bat - nothing special with the ball but certainly part of the end of this game (possibly should have been caught on the boundary but it would have been a hell of a catch). The end shot was just beautiful.
I also don't understand why you should be surprised about James Hildreth. When he has his eye in in any form of cricket he is almost impossible to bowl to and sublime in his shot selection and delivery. In this game he took the game to the Glams from ball one, passed Buttler without a glance and then just powered to the line irrespective of who tried to get him out.
This was Hildreth at his very very best and it was a joy to watch from beginning to end.
Absolutely spot on Grockle. James's knock can best be entitled 'poetry in motion' - no hurry no slogging just sublime - the real reason for coming to watch cricket and hoping for what? Just such a performance. It is clearly what the England selectors spotted when he was first pushed to the front of the young pretenders!
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Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 21:48
Watching this on the lap top was a very roller coaster experience. A splendid win led by a "proper" batsman who unfortunately so often only does it in small chunks. 57 off the last 27 balls is unbelievable. The team selection will be so difficult for the next game. Levi for Compton;Morkel for Meschede; then what? Dockrell for Gregory ;Kieswetter for Snell ;after today you don't leave out Hildreth so is it O'Brien or Trego. Pete nhasn't fired yet, but I keep thinking he will, but he is obviously not going to getg a bowl so does that tip the balance? I'm glad it's not me
Meanwhile I shall revel in tonight.
Meanwhile I shall revel in tonight.
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Posted by: SillyMidOn (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 21:55
Is O'Brien definitely coming back?
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Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 21:56
Not just his best T20 innings, but one of the best ever i would say. Not a single slog. Just awesome.Knock hit & giggle cricket as much as you like but you don't get excitement like that in any other format.
If anyone deserves a rest this year it's Trego, send him away for a week and reassess when he comes back and time to confirm what we already new, Compo is not suited to T20.I would be tempted to ask James to open after this.
I think Keiswetter is out for the rest of the group stage.
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If anyone deserves a rest this year it's Trego, send him away for a week and reassess when he comes back and time to confirm what we already new, Compo is not suited to T20.I would be tempted to ask James to open after this.
I think Keiswetter is out for the rest of the group stage.
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 22:10
Not sure where they got the idea from but Beeb team were claiming that Craig K is available for Tue.
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Posted by: uncle morpheus (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 22:36
I was lucky to be at the County Ground this afternoon.
Great innings from Hildy, a real pleasure to watch.
Kirby bowled really well, as did Lewis. Max bowled a great first over, but after that bowled too short.
Lewis bowled no more than medium pace. Either not totally fit or concentrating on line and length and not out and out pace.
Great innings from Hildy, a real pleasure to watch.
Kirby bowled really well, as did Lewis. Max bowled a great first over, but after that bowled too short.
Lewis bowled no more than medium pace. Either not totally fit or concentrating on line and length and not out and out pace.
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Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 22:58
Not sure Friday nights get much better than that, certainly in the context of T20 cricket. After 3 overs we were 6-2, we essentially knocked off the required target in 17 overs at 10 an over. Before you could blink James was taking the plaudits for his half century... Fair to say he got good support from Jos and Arul who may have only got a few runs but importantly got James on strike at every opportunity.
Probably the best t20 innings I've witnessed and certainly one of the best games. The way the players rushed out to celebrate spoke volumes of how the bond of this team is. Strong.
Pleasure to witness it and say I was there, the only shame was the Sky cameras weren't around to capture it.
Next game I'd rest Compo and Trego, save them for the return of the proper 4 day stuff.
Probably the best t20 innings I've witnessed and certainly one of the best games. The way the players rushed out to celebrate spoke volumes of how the bond of this team is. Strong.
Pleasure to witness it and say I was there, the only shame was the Sky cameras weren't around to capture it.
Next game I'd rest Compo and Trego, save them for the return of the proper 4 day stuff.
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Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 23:10
To revert to AGod's surprised (but surprising) incredulity...
Hildreth is a very experienced T20 performer (only Thomas and Trego have played more matches) and his average of 23 is the same as Trego's AND Buttler's. Of those who have scored substantial runs only Buttler (135.00) and Trego (121.01) have superior stike rates to Hildreth's (119.51).
While a less spectacular batsman than Buttler and Trego in their pomp, Hildreth has always been a fast scorer, aided by his exquisite timing, his ability to penetrate the gaps in the fields and his rapid running between the wickets. I was not remotely surprised by what he did tonight, though absolutely delighted and wishing I had been there. Even Tractor would have enjoyed it.
Hildreth is a very experienced T20 performer (only Thomas and Trego have played more matches) and his average of 23 is the same as Trego's AND Buttler's. Of those who have scored substantial runs only Buttler (135.00) and Trego (121.01) have superior stike rates to Hildreth's (119.51).
While a less spectacular batsman than Buttler and Trego in their pomp, Hildreth has always been a fast scorer, aided by his exquisite timing, his ability to penetrate the gaps in the fields and his rapid running between the wickets. I was not remotely surprised by what he did tonight, though absolutely delighted and wishing I had been there. Even Tractor would have enjoyed it.
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Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 23:10
Photos will be posted in the morning, I nearly have them ready.
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Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 23:15
That is the first hundred in the T20 by any player so far this season.
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Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 23:16
Just loved watching Kirby win the race for the middle at the end, i swear Lewis' shot hadn't crossed the boundry by the time Kirbs got there. Would have taken a pretty stupid security man to try to stop him, he looked like a man possessed!
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Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 23:19
"... he looked like a man possessed."
I'd always assumed he WAS possessed - it must be great to have such a man as a colleague.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I'd always assumed he WAS possessed - it must be great to have such a man as a colleague.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Posted by: litlekeithy (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 23:29
I tend to agree with loyal of lhasa, while hildy isn't a slogger his ability to sweep both ways, in which he must be the best in the country, and his wristy strokes has always meant he can get runs at a decent rate. I have always enjoyed his partnerships with jos where they score at a very good rate but in quite different styles.
I am still a bit perplexed by putting Arul down the order although with the big hitters coming back I presume that isn't going to change.
I'd put him opening instead of Compo, who I would save for the championship where he brings exactly what we require.
I wonder if Tregs needs a bit of a rest
I am still a bit perplexed by putting Arul down the order although with the big hitters coming back I presume that isn't going to change.
I'd put him opening instead of Compo, who I would save for the championship where he brings exactly what we require.
I wonder if Tregs needs a bit of a rest
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2012 23:48
Quote:AGod
Not sure where they got the idea from but Beeb team were claiming that Craig K is available for Tue.
Looking at the schedule they might be right. There's the T20 on Sunday but then after can't see anymore games up to and including Thursday so England may want players to have a knock?
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Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 00:41
Anyone else mention the very welcome sight of a boot free and dare I say it slimline Trescothick. Taking. Catching. Practice before the match? A very welcome sight.
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Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 02:59
That must have been a fantastic knock by James.
Interesting he says on the SCCC site that being dropped "shook him up".
In which case, well done Brian as well.
Cunning strategy !
Grizzzly
Interesting he says on the SCCC site that being dropped "shook him up".
In which case, well done Brian as well.
Cunning strategy !
Grizzzly
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Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 06:59
Yep, exactly, Grizz. Canny man-management. Well done, Brian.
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Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 07:53
Excellent summary of the game on the Glamorgan site from Andrew Hignell.
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Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 08:06
This win was similar to the Northamptonshire match in one respect, one man won it for us with the help from the rest of the team in the batting department. Once again needing 18 off the last two overs.
The bowlers all did well, bowlers will always have some bad overs in t20 even Alfonso Thomas did.
The photos.
Nick Compton got an inside edge onto the stumps off S Jones the ball just about to hit the stumps.
M North edging this ball from Steve Kirby just out of reach of Peter Trego in the slips.
One of James Hildreth’s sweep shots going for four runs
Another clever shot by James H and another four runs. I can’t remember when I last watch James play as good as this; it’s an innings to remember.
It was nice of James to give me a wave after scoring a four and reaching his hundred.
It was silly of C Cooke to step back and give himself room when Alfonso Thomas was bowling.
We mustn’t forget Arul Suppiah (4 runs) help in winning this match (along with the rest of the batsmen) even Lewis Gregory at the end.
The table look interesting. [www.espncricinfo.com] a nice gap in the points.
The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]
The bowlers all did well, bowlers will always have some bad overs in t20 even Alfonso Thomas did.
The photos.
Nick Compton got an inside edge onto the stumps off S Jones the ball just about to hit the stumps.
M North edging this ball from Steve Kirby just out of reach of Peter Trego in the slips.
One of James Hildreth’s sweep shots going for four runs
Another clever shot by James H and another four runs. I can’t remember when I last watch James play as good as this; it’s an innings to remember.
It was nice of James to give me a wave after scoring a four and reaching his hundred.
It was silly of C Cooke to step back and give himself room when Alfonso Thomas was bowling.
We mustn’t forget Arul Suppiah (4 runs) help in winning this match (along with the rest of the batsmen) even Lewis Gregory at the end.
The table look interesting. [www.espncricinfo.com] a nice gap in the points.
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Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 09:07
Glamorgan have come in for some stick on other sites for negecting Welsh talent.
Five of their six batters last night were born in Australia and the sixth, Martin van Jaarsveld, in South Africa.
Three of their bowlers were Welsh, however - Robert Croft, Simon Jones and James Harris. And all three were born in the same suburb of Swansea - Morriston.
Five of their six batters last night were born in Australia and the sixth, Martin van Jaarsveld, in South Africa.
Three of their bowlers were Welsh, however - Robert Croft, Simon Jones and James Harris. And all three were born in the same suburb of Swansea - Morriston.
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Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 09:19
Quote:cricketjerry-mouse
Somerset’s aim was two wins out of three while they were without the SA and Irish contingent. They have actually done better than that, with the point from yesterday`s abandoned match at Edgbaston.
Meanwhile, Glamorgan will be stunned. For they have paid absolutely megga, megga bucks (including, I`m told, regional aid money from the European Union) to hire Shaun Marsh and Martin van Jaarsveld in a bid to reach this year`s final at their own SWALEC stadium.
I have always considered (but am always open to being otherwise convinced) that two permitted overseas players per county in our domestic Twenty 20 competition is one too many. The shortness of the competition itself, as well as the incredibly short length of each innings, IMHO can seriously diminish the effect that any overseas player can have on a team’s performance.
Can county clubs who are not as efficiently run as our own Somerset, afford to pay big money for overseas players who come to these shores as ‘hired guns’ for a few weeks each summer?
Do they justify the cost being paid for their services, and do club’s recoup that expense by virtue of them being solely responsible for putting more backsides on seats?
And yet, cricketjerry-mouse tells us (and I am not for one moment disputing what he says) that Glamorgan “have paid absolutely megga, megga bucks” to hire a couple of players who were on the losing side last evening. Not only did they lose, but also they lost to a team who were missing at least six players who, under different circumstances, may very well have been playing last evening.
I confess that Twenty 20 cricket holds little appeal to me, so I accept that I am not best placed to offer a balanced opinion on this particular form of the game.
However, I still followed the evening’s events from home, and am delighted that our team (without any overseas ‘stars’) did us proud.
Well done, Somerset.
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Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 09:39
With all the excitement from another large crowd on winning the match I wonder how many noticed or cared that Marsh was run out off the last ball, I did but the announcer didn’t.
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Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 09:41
I think I would have been shocked if I had been dropped in favour of nick Compton for a t20 game.
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Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 09:57
Quote:Clarence ParkerQuote:cricketjerry-mouse
Somerset’s aim was two wins out of three while they were without the SA and Irish contingent. They have actually done better than that, with the point from yesterday`s abandoned match at Edgbaston.
Meanwhile, Glamorgan will be stunned. For they have paid absolutely megga, megga bucks (including, I`m told, regional aid money from the European Union) to hire Shaun Marsh and Martin van Jaarsveld in a bid to reach this year`s final at their own SWALEC stadium.
I have always considered (but am always open to being otherwise convinced) that two permitted overseas players per county in our domestic Twenty 20 competition is one too many. The shortness of the competition itself, as well as the incredibly short length of each innings, IMHO can seriously diminish the effect that any overseas player can have on a team’s performance.
Can county clubs who are not as efficiently run as our own Somerset, afford to pay big money for overseas players who come to these shores as ‘hired guns’ for a few weeks each summer?
Do they justify the cost being paid for their services, and do club’s recoup that expense by virtue of them being solely responsible for putting more backsides on seats?
And yet, cricketjerry-mouse tells us (and I am not for one moment disputing what he says) that Glamorgan “have paid absolutely megga, megga bucks” to hire a couple of players who were on the losing side last evening. Not only did they lose, but also they lost to a team who were missing at least six players who, under different circumstances, may very well have been playing last evening.
I confess that Twenty 20 cricket holds little appeal to me, so I accept that I am not best placed to offer a balanced opinion on this particular form of the game.
However, I still followed the evening’s events from home, and am delighted that our team (without any overseas ‘stars’) did us proud.
Well done, Somerset.
Clarence, I agree with much of what you say. In addition, despite my preference for local talent to be given a chance, I think results have proved that Brian Rose's judgement (I have queried it sometimes in the past and accept he has proved his point) regarding overseas signings is pretty sound with one or two exceptions.
However there is some irony in the fact that if the full squad had been available, last night's hero would almost certainly not have been playing!
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Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 10:05
I don`t think Glamorgan would have doled out so much money on two high profile overseas T20 players, cp, if the finals this year hadn`t been at their home stadium.
The SWALEC has found it difficult to sell Test matches to the Welsh public - they aborted plans to play the first West Indies Test in May there and it reverted back to Lord`s. So the feeling may well have been that it was commercially vital to involve Glamorgan in T20 finals day.
The SWALEC has found it difficult to sell Test matches to the Welsh public - they aborted plans to play the first West Indies Test in May there and it reverted back to Lord`s. So the feeling may well have been that it was commercially vital to involve Glamorgan in T20 finals day.
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Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 10:21
I know that the SWALEC has had difficulties in selling Test Match tickets to the Welsh public (apart of course from the inaugural Ashes Test), but 'buying a team' in the hope that they will be involved in Twenty 20 finals day on their own ground, does not appear to be a very sound business plan.
IMHO of course.
IMHO of course.
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Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 10:32
Somerset supporters will half fill the stadium anyway. 
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Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 12:00
I echo all the plaudits for Hildy, without doubt best one day hundred i have seen. He isnt a strong biffer who clubs sixes, only hit one and that was a well timed slog sweep off cosker. It was an innings of cricketing talent, sweeps both ways, chips over infield (even a jos ramp shot).
At 79 needed off 7, and 50 off 4 it's a small miracle we did this one, the 24 off Harris in 17th over really was the key, Hildy literally toyed with each change in field placing they made.
Big mention for Lewis too, that 6 in final over clinched it, for all Hildys heroics, they would have been in vain if Lewis hadnt finished it, as with 9 needed off 5 with Hildy off strike it could easily have had us end up short.
On a negative i thought we were quite poor in the field. Snell missed a straight forward stumping off Max when Allenby was still scratching around. I thought after that we looked very flat, Thomas didnt bowl well, the timings of him bowling spin was all wrong too, Marsh was itching to lay into them both, also thought Lewis was worth another over or 2. Kirby was the one who looked the part.
Still, nice to be able to say we can improve a lot whilst still reflecting on a win!
Great sign seeing Tres back on 2 feet too, guess he's a way to go but he looked to be walking around freely, and even gentle jog to retreive some balls during his catching practice prior to the start of play.
At 79 needed off 7, and 50 off 4 it's a small miracle we did this one, the 24 off Harris in 17th over really was the key, Hildy literally toyed with each change in field placing they made.
Big mention for Lewis too, that 6 in final over clinched it, for all Hildys heroics, they would have been in vain if Lewis hadnt finished it, as with 9 needed off 5 with Hildy off strike it could easily have had us end up short.
On a negative i thought we were quite poor in the field. Snell missed a straight forward stumping off Max when Allenby was still scratching around. I thought after that we looked very flat, Thomas didnt bowl well, the timings of him bowling spin was all wrong too, Marsh was itching to lay into them both, also thought Lewis was worth another over or 2. Kirby was the one who looked the part.
Still, nice to be able to say we can improve a lot whilst still reflecting on a win!
Great sign seeing Tres back on 2 feet too, guess he's a way to go but he looked to be walking around freely, and even gentle jog to retreive some balls during his catching practice prior to the start of play.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 12:57
To be honest with the obvious exception of a great super over in the semi-final Alf did not perform to his previous standards in last year's T20 and he seems to be getting out-bowled by Steve Kirby in this year's one.
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Roger Sweet (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2012 23:44
More than 24 hours later I still have that wonderful warm glow from viewing an absolutely exceptional Somerset performance. With so many first team choices not available and being so far behind the 8 ball (I mean the D/L target), it was undobtedly the best ever one day Somerset performance I have seen since the C&G semi v Kent in 2002 and the best ever one day innings that I have ever seen. The only time that I have had a warmer glow was after watching Blackwell's astonishing 247* against Derby in 2004? - coincidentally Hildy's first class debut!!!!
Re: The Dragons and the weather (which is dragging on and on)
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/06/2012 10:51
A sound recording of James Hildreth interview. - [www.bbc.co.uk]
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