Radio Days
The kits the same!
By Grockle et al
March 18 2013
One branch out aspect of this site was involvement in the development of ball by ball commentary using volunteers to keep people abreast of what was going on in Championship matches as the local BBC cut their involvement. It started small.... and stayed that way for a couple of years. But now it's breaking its shackles and moviing out of Taunton to far flung places.. like Wellington.
In 2008 (I think) - the year before the Long Room and the year the Caddyshack was opened, Richard Walsh and a couple of others (Eric Cole being one of them) had a bit of a bright idea to enhance the cricket spectating enjoyment of some of our poorly sighted members. With the support of the RNIB and some kit donated by the club we started to fill a gap that had opened up in the commentary of some matches.
In the second half of the 'noughties' the BBC were cutting back on their radio coverage and it started to become noticable that they were not providing this important audio lifeline for those with poor eyesight at many matches (as well as those no where near the real home of cricket). Interested parties investigated the possibilities and found out that the RNIB had kit that could pick up a broadcast within the ground on a kind of enhanced wifi hearing aid. They gave some to the club and Richard looked to recruit some people to provide a ball by ball service from the old changing rooms in the CA Pavilion (the players having moved to their new facilities). Ball by ball coverage by SCCC was born.
Grockles got involved because this broadcast could be streamed onto the internet and picked up in other far flung places like Bristol. Initially we sat on the outside benches of the Somerset balcony commentating on all sorts of games that the BBC were not covering, we had a very short session of training and were on our way with two old mike headsets, a old mixing desk and an effects mike hung over the wall. The committee members found this very confusing, especially when we reported from outside of Richard Gould's office and had to walk through their hallowed corridors, not always wearing the required dress.
Roy Kerslake and Richard Gould did early stints, one becoming a firm favourite of the listeners and enjoying it so much it is now hard to get him off the mike and the other being the first man to swear live on air (partly due to the ribbing he was getting at the time from a bunch of 'schoolboys' off mike including the two Andrews -- Hurry and Nash. Gouldy also gave the new Gimblett Hill it's second name - The Dead End.
We got into the swing of things and despite technical hitches and loss of scoreboards etc we muddled through providing a service that seemed to be appreciated and having a bit of fun on the way. Going through the stuff professional cricketers leave in changing rooms was an eye opener I can tell you!!
The second season found us evicted from the CA because of building work and we found ourselves at Ground Level in the infamous 'Shed'. This was located where the Botham Stand meets the CA behind the seating area that was reserved for our wheelchair spectators. It was notable for having a restricted view which meant you had to keep sticking your head out of the door to get a look at the big scoreboard and telling people to get out of the way as they tended to use the front of it as a leaning post.
Technical glitches continued, heads at certain angles to keep headphone connections working, differences in levels of volume because of the speaking volume of some commentators, getting Julian Catternach off the mike, signals not being broadcast (Jon Kerslake and myself commentated on the whole of the final stages of our remarkable win over Yorkshire that year and I doubt anyone else heard our pearls of wisdom and shouted enthusiasm/disbelief as Peter Trego put the Tykes to the sword). It wasn't ideal and would have probably died a death at that point had it not been for the club becoming interested in the positive nature of the service with it's wonderful Black Acre Farm Eggs jingles (inspired in my humble opinion).
In 2010 they purchased a small part of the FM wavelength and moved us to the 'media centre' in the Old Pavilion - the big room used for the SKY boys. We became radio broadcasters, mostly restricted to CC1 and Tourist games as the BBC suddenly acquired a new interest in broadcasting the short form stuff but by now we were something of an institution in the place. Grocklees made debuts, Bagpuss and LoL took a spell though LoL decided it wasn't for him and sitting watching sedatly was much more his style. Baggy continued after avoiding my eye and finding knittiing that needed doing for two years she got the bug and has become one of the team.
The kit has not been upgraded and needs it desperately but the coverage keeps expanding. The FM signal from the ground only managed to reach about 2 miles from the pitch but this year with the launching of Tone FM as a local radio station you will be able to pick up commentary as far out as the following places (thanks to Darren Cullum for this info);
Wellington, Bishops Lydeard, Cotford St Luke, Kingston St Mary, Monkton Heathfield, Thorloxton, North Curry and Henlade.
Anywhere on that circle should pic up the broadcast on 107.8 FM as well as providing a second internet link to partner the one from the ground itself - we still aren't radio regulars to Grockle Minarets (or Bicknoller Towers for that matter) yet but we are getting closer .
There are plans afoot for Tone FM's involvement in the cricketing life of Somerset but that is for others to announce. For now we may have better technology and a more reliable signal to provide a better service, the volunteers are a little less amateur than they were, the payment of a carvery lunch on broadcasting days is still going I hope and the services of Spencer, SCCC's 'Techie', will keep the home fires burning and the "Last Session Kerslake Show" going out to more Somerset spectators for many season to come. It really is a great example of community, club and spectators getting together to organise something that enhances enjoyment and I'm all for it.
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The Tone FM feed should expand the coverage though and hopefully might make for a more consistent level. I know Spencer has been working with them over the winter and Darren says they will be taking the feed from the start of the season.

I fully agree with the final sentence of your article.
I look fwd to a stint to two in the coming season - if invited. I'm a poor commentator but might be able to add a bit of texture as a summariser.
However, I think that the majority of the BBC 'Points West' programme that I saw this evening related to the story concerning Hinkley Point 'C'. Even if they had wanted to, I doubt whether the BBC had the time within the scheduled programme to mention Somerset CCC's 'Press Day'.
Maybe, it will be featured at a date later this week.
Sadly, one cannot get a quart into a pint pot.

The local paper photographer seem to be well represented and several reporters from smaller organisations with video cameras.
Edit -
This snapshot was taken from the ITV News West Country. Can you spot me?
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It looks like Richard Latham was there - without a camera of course.
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Did you take lots of photos Mike? If you did will they be up on your link in the next few days?
Grockle I do have more group photos of all the players plus coaches and some of the management in their one day kit and their whites.
I also have individual head and shoulders photos of each player and coaches also in their coloured and white kits. (too many to upload)
I will add more of the group photos to the web site link when I can get around to it, they will be in the folder 2013 “Somerset Cricket Photos not Matches”
Grockle If you need any different photos for the web site use let me know.
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I really enjoyed Grockle's history of the commentating initiative and it is excellent that it has been documented in such a way. It is something of which all concerned can feel really proud.
I did indeed have a commentating stint, just a single pre-lunch session into which I was plunged with kindly support from Eric Cole but no previous experience or training. Like the esteemed Deacon I think I may be capable of making the odd summarising noise or reminding listeners of the parallels between today's match and one between the same sides in 1893, but I lack the 180 degree vision the job requires or the precision of eyesight enabling me to distinguish between a fast medium or medium fast bowler or - on occasions - to see where the ball has actually gone. I know my limitations and people will just have to wait for the book.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Fantastic article Grockle.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Pre-pubescent you say?
Just watch this space.

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User data I've obtained now shows listeners follow the commentary in no less than 46 countries! An outstanding achievement.
I understand the service initially started so that visually impaired supporters could follow matches.
I'd be very grateful for any further information on how and when it started, who was involved and how it has evolved etc.
Emails to me on the subject at andynash.net@gmail.com would be greatly appreciated.
Thank-you and apologies if I'm inadvertently using Grockles inappropriately.
Thanks in anticipation.
Best, Andy
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Edit - I made a mistake it was on the Internet. [www.cricketnetwork.co.uk]-
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During the winter of 2008 it became clear that the local BBC Radio were not going to be able to cover Championship Cricket in the way that they had previously and the Club was keen to provide some kind of service for it’s Members.
The timing of this fortunately coincided with an offer of equipment from RNIB and some sponsorship from Blackacre Farm Eggs the outcome of which after some discussion was the launch of the Somerset Ball by Ball Commentary Service for the 2009 season.
Guy Wolfenden asked me to assemble a team of volunteers who attended a training session following which the service started with just a small handful of volunteers, probably as few as 10 at the start of the 2009 season.
Initially we often broadcast from the balcony in front of the Chief Execs office in the Colin Atkinson Pavilion before being housed in the Potting Shed.
In the early stages volunteers were working double shifts, but as time has gone on more have come forward and now we have as many as 24 on the list of voices we can call on.
At the start of the 2010 we were granted a limited licence to broadcast, and the service also moved from the potting shed at the base of the Botham Stand to the Sky TV commentary position in the Old Pavilion, where it has remained ever since.
As well as tuning in to the radio frequency the commentary is also available through the SCCC website.
The beauty of the Somerset Ball by Ball service is that all of those who broadcast are Somerset supporters who care passionately about their County Club. They all have a varying body of cricketing knowledge and hopefully the content of their commentary is not only informative but also entertaining.
Back at the start of the 2012 season Sky TV did a feature on the Somerset Ball by Ball team, which included an interview with Roy Kerslake, who is a keen and enthusiastic member of the team, and has been since we started.
For my sins I am the one who organises and runs it on a day to day basis.
Some of those who have been involved from the outset include Roy Kerslake, Julian Cattenach, Richard Oliver, Paul Bird and myself.
Others who have been on board and dedicated a lot of their time and energy include Eric Cole and Paul Harper, Bill Luckett, Tom Doyle and Jane Hamlin.
Back to me. Very heartening to see how such a venture has developed and expanded. A big well done to all involved.
Best, Andy

Actually he was being his good self and giving the student some practical experience for their media studies.
How many time have you listened to a commentary on the radio and wondered what the people looked like, this is a photo of the talented students you all heard today on the cricket commentary.
I have to say they seemed very nice and I am glad I met them.
[www.cricketnetwork.co.uk]
Although the 'technicals' are sometimes a bit Iffy (unbalanced mics often) the quality of commentary is usually good and the passion of the commentators for the game is evident.
It was a real shame that the Beeb didn't continue commentary as they did in other areas but the outcome is probably a more interesting service that is always there!
It is also very gratifying that the Club's attitude to the service and Grockles has moved light years away from the Anderson era!
The ladies and gentlemen do an excellent job and I hope the kit will be updated for the 2013 season as the whole shebang may be moving from its present home to some other venue for the season. That could solve some of the inconsistency problems.
Thanks for the heads up to the fact that Ben and Julian seem to record their stints on the microphone. I wasn't aware of that but the majority of the Youtube references seem to be links to their sessions.

And to get the firt taster the MCC v Warks match - featurin g Steve Kirby and Pete Trego - starting at the weekend will also be covered.
[www.bbc.co.uk]
We just tagged along.....

BBC Local Radio has supported county cricket for over a decade – Have they?
Commentary will come from current BBC Local Radio teams – This will give more work to the teams that normally only cover the other matches, I bet they are pleased.
The question is will this effect Somerset's own coverage?
In the years when we started the commentary they were covering nothing but the odd T20 game for its novelty value.
Somerset coverage was tacked onto, and acted as marginal partner of Gloucestershire commentary.
Cricket commentary rarely happened at all once the football season was back in full swing and Phil Tottle found himself being farmed out to other county's to cover for them when BBC Bristol were not interested.
I think you might find here that they will make the already established internet providers go to away games and cover for the opposition rather than set up a BBC Somerset team- though I'm happy to be pleasantly surprised.
You'll all know by the time I get back in June. The one thing in favour of us keeping our link is that Tone FM want to cover the games and may use the volunteers for that.
I can't see three teams of commentators, one home BBC, One away BBC and one local volunteer crew fighting for space and airtime in the new media facility somehow and I can't see the BBC using the already established team because we are just amateurs.

How long will this arrangement last with the BBC?
Give it a year or so and the cuts and cost savings will be eating back into the coverage IMHO.
But I fervently hope they take some of the better parts of the Grockle-supported Somerset scheme and have Roy K, Grockle and the Deacon plus others as guest commentators/summarisers.
A single voice can begin to pall after a while of listening to a slow match unfolding!
“Regional papers have slashed county cricket coverage as circulations have fallen and employees have been laid off.”
I consider that local and regional newspapers in the South West of England still serve their readerships very well, as far as our two regional county cricket teams are concerned.
Of course, there will be those who expect much more, but when I compare the coverage of county cricket that we receive from our local newspapers with that provided by those who are based in many other counties, then I consider that we are very fortunate indeed.
[www.espncricinfo.com]
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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You can bet the ECB is covering most of the cost and if they are it should carry on until they stop.
I tend to agree.
Any ideas on who could be the Somerset fan?

Quote:Bobstan
I can't think of any passionate fans at Taunton.
I have seen one or two female mallards screaming "rape" in the outfield occasionally!!
Quote:Mike TA1
An excellent article as usual from 'cricinfo' that includes this “This season we will also be introducing the first Supporters' Network, with a fan providing a passionate take on each of the 18 first-class counties”. [www.espncricinfo.com]
Any ideas on who could be the Somerset fan?
The Cricinfo county previews will start to appear from Wednesday 27 March. The Somerset preview is scheduled for 4 April.
Anyone know what date it is today?

Being the 'apologist' for Somerset is pretty much a full time job - can't be a 'company man' for two organisations at the same time BJ. That would almost be 'two faced' and Auntie wouldn't like that.


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It can be a problem at Taunton but you have to hope that the new scoreboard arrangements will solve trying to find a source for it that is up to date with the game :-)
Some of the more diligent commentators last year used to eeep their own scorebooks which helped.

I have been told that new parts have been ordered for it and should arrive this week.

Quote:Grockle
Nah I'm not there and probably never will be but I know someone who is and far better at it than me.
Being the 'apologist' for Somerset is pretty much a full time job - can't be a 'company man' for two organisations at the same time BJ. That would almost be 'two faced' and Auntie wouldn't like that.
I think we're all aware of that, Grockle.

I think I'll just continue to post here, try and maintain some balance despite the criticism, hidden or open.
Bulldog spirit and so on. Whizzo, cabbage crates over the
briney, top hole... (can't think of any more WW2 references I'm sure you are glad to know)
Welcome back today Wes. Hope he brings some better weather with him for those watching... no BBC today I assume.

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Did anyone view it?
I tried to locate it on 'BBC iPlayer', but to no avail.
Doubt there's even a mm of fat on AH.
From our point of view that at least means a Somerset view away from home instead of the pretty heavy duty home emphasis at some grounds. I'd hope we don't come over as biased on the home ball by ball but there are some a little more 'Australian' in their approach on the commentaries I heard early last season.

Lovely.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I really like the one commentator from each side arrangement. Makes for balance and a decent conversation.

Quote:Grockle
Well it might. There doesn't seem to be too much point in providing two versions of the same thing. The answer to the regional support question is NO they haven't.
In the years when we started the commentary they were covering nothing but the odd T20 game for its novelty value.
Somerset coverage was tacked onto, and acted as marginal partner of Gloucestershire
Not true Grockle. I've been listening to one day cricket for over a decade now. They did stop sending Tottle or A.N.Other to 4-day games a few years back (the year Langer made that big score is the last season I remember) but they have always had commentary at one-day games.
I was once called in early because the club were expecting but nothing arrived from the Beeb. They certainly did not cover Somerset games against the Unicorns in the last couple of years even when they were in the South West and they had BBC people at the ground (this happened at Exmouth for example).
Phil Tottle certainly worked for whoever cover Sussex at one Taunton game because there was no coverage from Bristol so they employed him, he was furious about it at the time.
It may be less games than my perception suggests but they are actual events I'm afraid.
I think there have been cases where the BBC could say they have covered a game because they had a commentary team at the Gloucestershire game and a summariser who was asked what was going on at Taunton semi-regularly. It was in the days when Radio Bristol seemed to be of a higher status than Somerset Sound.
It certainly doesn't happen now

I asked about the club commentary and it seems it is a decision for the CE and they are awaiting said decision. Certainly Tone FM are not starting up anything this early as they are still bedding the staion in after it's launch not long ago.
I suppose we'll have to wait and listen during the first home game.
One of the problems is that SKY are covering more four day stuff this year and that means that the commentary team will be turfed out of the Media Centre in the Old Pavilion as well so a base for such commentary may also be an issue that decides its fate.
It's all up in the air and you may very well have to await what comes out of your radio at 11:00 AM on whenever it is.


However the ball-by-ball commentary will return to Taunton for the n ext home match v Middlesex starting the 15 May
iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_radio_progs/
Usually someone will tweet before the match starts which Tune In channel each match is - not sure if that's the app you have though.
Having checked it myself this morning. You have to wait until the events are on before they show up. Durham v Somerset was Live Event 6. The commentators said the number was staying with the team but I don't know whether that meant Durham would always be 6 or Somerset would but it might be a place to start.
There must be an index somewhere on the BBC site.... good luck with finding it. But, as I say. I tried the BBC sport web and couldn't get commentary (it falls out regularly there anyway). I tried the local radio station internet but that is usually broadcasting the normal programmes as opposed to the sports feed and then used Tune In and listened to the game while driving through Muscat with no break or interference at all.
There's always Five Live Extra of course. It is a London fixture so it might get special coverage.

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The crazy thing for me is that I can drive through the middle of Muscat in Oman this afternoon and listen to Somerset play Surrey on my phone through the radio but I can't get the same service from Bicknoller to Taunton in the UK except for the last mile to the ground. I can't even pick up 5LiveExtra in my house unless I take the DAB radio upstairs to the back bedroom!!
Clear as day and without interference here, even at the Al Amerat cricket ground surrounded by mountains. How does that work?

Surely some mistake here, when the only way to listen to a BBC commentary is to use a commercial radio player? Or is there something I'm missing?
Whilst it was enjoyable for me to watch live cricket on their television for the first time in ages, I resorted to my old habit of watching the television with the sound muted, and listening to the game on Radio 5 Live Sports Extra at the same time.
Sadly the experiment didn't work as well as it once did when the games were shown on either the BBC or Channel 4 - the reason being the delay of some 5 seconds before the television pictures appeared in one's living room.
It was quite amusing to hear about the batsman's shot going over the boundary, before seeing the bowler start his run up.

I could hear him next door cheering a goal or a wicket 3 seconds before it happened in my house.

So I would suddenly shout out "He's bowled him" and everybody would turn round and look indignantly at me and then back at the screen just in time to see the shattering of the stumps. It was all great fun. I didn't let on the cause of my miraculous prescience and I never shall... oops.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
A few weeks ago they were on 16, then we seemed to settle on 14. I now can't find them on there either - is there an easy way rather than just going through all the numbers by trial and error?
Grrr...
Very frustrating, going through each channel in turn, waiting for them to buffer - some are silent, one I just got crowd noise but no commentary - in case anyone's interested:
12 Derby v Som
13 Yorks v Surrey
9 Northants v Lancs
16 Worcs v Glam
11 and 14 - total silence
Now back in the UK so the universality of the service disappears and I can hardly get the Tunein app consistently anywhere. Oman - everywhere morning noon and night. Somerset no chance!!

Anyone who is on Twitter give Adam Mountford a follow (@tmsproducer) as he often tweets the tune in numbers - or you can send a message to ask him. I have noticed the better county commentators such as Durham's @MartyCricket always tweet the tune in number for the match they're covering too.
There IS a way to work it out but for the life of me I can't remember how!
In my part of the world usually certain parts of the BBC are not available, not for political reasons but usually for media reasons.
We cannot get TMS in the Middle East many times because Indian stations are taking the TV feeds and so blank out the radio ones
The mobile phone apps always work.
If the numbers are always the same at home Bagpuss then Somerset's is 8 but I'm not sure they are the same for CC1 and YB40.
I also don't understand why the BBC offers the service but does not advertise the relevant numbers

