Warwickshire Day 3 - Pure Theatre
By Farmer White et al
May 8 2022
Somerset come flying out of the blocks after three disappointing games before this one. Home again where they nearly hit Essex for 6 but Warwickshire don't escape by one wicket.... they face a Somerset batting and bowling onslaught that they just can't cope with. Here is Farmer's take on the last day....
County Championship 2022. Division 1. Somerset v Warwickshire. 28th, 29th and 30th April. Taunton
Somerset. T.A. Lammonby, M.T. Renshaw, T.B. Abell (c), T. Banton, J.C. Hildreth, S.M. Davies (w), L. Gregory, C. Overton, J.H. Davey, J. Leach, J.A. Brooks.
Warwickshire. R.M. Yates, D.M. Sibley, W.M.H. Rhodes (c), A.L. Davies, S.R. Hain, M.J. Lamb, M.G.K. Burgess (w), N.J. McAndrew. C.N. Miles, D.R. Briggs, O.J. Hannon-Dalby,
Overnight. Somerset 458. Warwickshire 197 for 9. Warwickshire trail by 261 runs with one second innings wicket standing.
Final day 29th April – Pure Theatre
There are moments in a cricket match which stick in the memory for years afterwards. Craig Kieswetter, on returning from his ultimately career-ending eye injury, depositing the first bouncer he received into the flats at Taunton. Ian Botham, with the scores level, blocking out the final over of the 1983 Nat West Cup semi-final at Lord’s to ensure Somerset won the match having lost eight wickets to Middlesex’s nine. Pure theatre. There was one such moment on the third day of this match. With a potential washout forecast for the scheduled final day, Warwickshire were approaching tea, still 134 runs behind Somerset’s first innings total, with their second innings sixth-wicket pair beginning to look a little too comfortable for comfort, at least from a worrisome Somerset supporter’s perspective.
Then, having aborted his first attempt, Jack Brooks prepared to deliver the first ball of a new spell from the Trescothick Pavilion End. While Brooks walked back to his mark, Tom Banton, in the off side inner ring, began a slow rhythmic handclap with his hands swinging metronomically in front of his knees. Then Craig Overton, in unison, began swinging his hands together, also in front of his knees. Matt Renshaw picked up the beat. Then, someone in the Somerset Stand joined in and the clapping spread across the stand. As Brooks ran in, the stand, clapping as one, raised the volume. The nearer Brooks got to the wicket the louder the clapping became. Pure theatre. With the clapping at its peak, the ball was delivered a foot or so wide of off stump. Playing his part in the scene to perfection, Burgess followed the ball and edged it to Davies who took the catch moving to his right, one knee touching the ground as he went. What a cheer went up then. Brooks set off in celebration towards the Somerset Stand, pursued by every one of his team mates as if he were the subject of a hue and cry. As he was engulfed, the cheers around the ground subsided into astonished laughter which metamorphosed into an animated buzz of expectation for now, with Warwickshire six wickets down, there seemed every chance that Somerset would finish the match before stumps were drawn.
Two balls later, again accompanied by rhythmic clapping, now from all around the ground as if the audience at the performance had joined in, Brooks again ran in. As he approached the stumps, the pace of the clapping picked up and the volume rose. Danny Briggs, who had replaced Burgess, came forward in defence to a ball angled in on off stump. The ball, adding to the drama, cut away off the pitch and found the edge. This time Davies needed only to move a foot to his right for the ball to thud into his gloves. Again, Brooks was hurtling towards the Somerset Stand with his team mates pursuing and engulfing him. Again, the crowd erupted in applause which metamorphosed into open-mouthed, astonished laughter and subsided into a buzz even more animated than before. When Banton went to the Somerset Stand boundary to pick up the helmet he had left beyond the boundary, he raised his hands above his head and applauded the stand. It had been as if those Somerset days of yore when Botham and Co strutted their stuff had come to visit, theatre and all.
Those two wickets reduced Warwickshire to 115 for 7, still 136 runs behind Somerset’s first innings total. Five overs later, Brooks prepared to bowl the last ball before tea to Nathan Mc Andrew. The clapping had subsided after Sam Hain, who had batted since the fall of the second wicket early in the morning session, and McAndrew restored some sense of order for Warwickshire. But, with an innate sense of theatrical timing, the crowd picked it up again for that last ball. In ran Brooks, the Somerset Stand began to clap, and the rest of the ground picked up the rhythm. As Brooks closed in on the wicket, the rhythm accelerated and the volume rose. Brooks attacked the stumps, McAndrew got behind the ball, defended, not well enough, the ball flew off the edge towards Renshaw’s midriff at second slip. Warwickshire were eight down. Brooks was celebrating, the team again in hot pursuit. The crowd was cheering, the heart was racing and the stomach churning at the prospect of the first Somerset victory of the season. Pure theatre.
After Somerset had overwhelmed Warwickshire on the first two days, the third day had started with Somerset needing one more wicket to end Warwickshire’s first innings. I entered through the Brian Rose gates and stopped in front of the Somerset Stand to exchange greetings with a man clutching a mug of cider. “Sit exactly where you did on the first two days,” was his stricture for the avoidance of a Warwickshire revival. “I hope you have remembered your seat number.” That meant a return to the north face of the Trescothick Pavilion via the Lord Ian Botham Stand and the Caddick Pavilion due to the closure of Gimblett’s Hill, and the prospect of sitting in the arctic conditions which normally prevail up there in April.
As I emerged from behind the Ondaatje Stand, I came across a familiar face, one I had not seen since before the pandemic. Smiles and greetings were exchanged and of course, Somerset’s start to the season had to be caught up upon. No serious conclusions were reached but the conversation kept us going until the end of the Warwickshire first innings, two overs and 12 runs later. Batting did look rather easy for numbers ten and eleven until Josh Davey, running in and bowling as smoothly and as accurately as ever despite his two heavy tumbles in the delivery stride on the second day, forced an edge from Oliver Hannon-Dalby’s defensive push and Warwickshire had ended their first innings with a deficit of 249.
The announcement, “Somerset have enforced the follow-on,” brought a loud, relieved cheer laced with feeling from Somerset supporters around the ground. The poor forecast for the fourth day and an almost universal feeling among cricket supporters that captains are far too cautious about enforcing the follow-on no doubt fuelling the cheer, those who watch generally being more adventurous in their view on declaration decisions than those who carry the responsibility for making them. On this occasion though, the decision was more clear cut, for it offered Somerset the opportunity of winning the match on the third day and not having to risk the weather on the fourth.
I emerged at the top of the Trescothick Pavilion in time to hear the announcement, “To open the bowling from the Marcus Trescothick Pavilion End, Craig Overton.” It brought another loud cheer, for he is the formidable cutting edge of the Somerset pace attack. Opposite him bowled Davey, that unrelenting examiner of technique. After seven overs, Warwickshire were 11 for 2, still 238 behind, and the cheers were soaring. Alex Davies had edged Davey low to Overton at third slip for nine. Dominic Sibley, who batted tightly for half an hour for two, then edged Overton low to Abell at fourth slip. The ball was speared in on off stump, Sibley tried to keep it out, and Abell bent low to take the catch just above the grass. It was a start such as dreams are made on as Prospero might have observed.
With Yates and Hain now at the wicket, Gregory and Brooks took up the attack for Somerset. The buzz from those first two wickets pervaded the atmosphere and the Somerset players constantly shouted encouragement, “Come on. Build it up again,” one call for the application of pressure. Neither Gregory nor Brooks gave an inch. After 14 overs Warwickshire were 19 for 2, barely a dent in the 249-run first innings deficit. “They’re going nowhere boys,” someone shouted, and the crowd applauded their encouragement whenever a sharp piece of fielding prevented a run.
At 21 for 2 in the 16th over, Brooks, from over the wicket, targeted the left-handed Yates’ off stump. Yates, poorly positioned, attempted to pull, got under the ball which hurtled endlessly skywards. Lammonby, at mid-on, sighted it, watched it, adjusted his position a little straighter, moved back, hands rising towards the ball, edged further back, waited as breaths were held tight in every corner of the ground, all sound extinguished, and still he waited. Then, sparking a mountainous cheer, took the ball an eternity after it had left the bat. For drama, let any theatre match such a wait in such a situation.
After three wickets had fallen so quickly, the curious thing about watching the next phase of the Warwickshire innings was that batting did not seem unduly difficult, at least from the safety of the stands. The bat was occasionally beaten and there was the occasional thick edge, or one that ran along the ground, but nothing that really threatened. Hain, in particular, and Rhodes settled to firm defence. Rhodes did twice find the boundary, driving Brooks and Overton, and Hain neatly glanced Overton to the Lord Ian Botham Stand in the over before lunch, but defence was the watchword, and the lunchtime score was 45 for 3 from 25 overs.
With perambulation replacing circumnavigation until Gimblett’s Hill is re-instated, I took a gentle amble around as much of the ground as I could during the lunch interval. Despite walking along the front of stands rather than behind I saw none of those faces from before the pandemic that had yet to reappear. It is an odd feeling when people you knew only at the cricket, and who were at the cricket more often than not, do not reappear when the cricket does. Part of the Gimblett Levels had disappeared too as the large temporary stand awaiting the onslaught of the Vitality Blast T20 competition took the space of some of the benches. The benches that remain are still popular as the erstwhile residents of the Hill seek temporary homes.
I watched the first over after lunch from behind the covers store, my usual post-lunch way station as I mistime my return to the Trescothick Pavilion. It is impossible to get from there to the top via the stairs during a change of ends, and I am not yet in need of the lift to reach the summit. The trip from the covers store to the top is always an anxious time if Somerset are batting because of my propensity to take Somerset wickets while I am behind or in the stair well of a stand. In Somerset’s innings in this match Davies had been my victim. It doesn’t work for opposition batsmen it seems, for Warwickshire were still three down when I reached my seat.
As the afternoon session got underway, batting looked uncomfortably easy. Doubtless it wasn’t. The bat was beaten from time to time. Once, Hain drove Overton straight and hard, “Catch it!” someone shouted with more conviction than is often the case. Overton, like a greyhound out of the traps, dived headlong down the pitch, arms outstretched towards the oncoming ball. He took it, but from the lack of reaction from Hain and the umpire it must have been caught on the bounce. It was an exceptional effort. When Overton hit Hain on the pad, the appeal was unrequited. For the most part though, the ball was played carefully in defence or left.
In the first 17 overs I watched from my seat after lunch the boundary was reached off the bat but twice. Hain drove Brooks through the on side to the River Stand and Leach through the off to the Colin Atkinson Pavilion, but those strokes were 14 overs apart. In the first 20 overs after lunch only 44 runs were scored. It was solid, determined defence and the attempt to take more wickets was beginning to feel like drawing teeth. With the weather forecast hovering in the background, seven wickets still standing, Hains and Rhodes looking relatively untroubled, and only 46 overs left in the day with Warwickshire having already consumed 45 in their second innings, that age-old cricketing equation involving time, runs and wickets gnawed increasingly at the mind.
And then, with tension beginning to bite, Warwickshire’s resistance was dealt a double blow by two pieces of cricket so magical they might have been rejected by the director of a play as too implausible for inclusion. Jack Leach had bowled six of the 20 overs since lunch without appearing unduly threatening, although he had conceded only ten runs. Then, to the left-handed Rhodes, he flighted a ball on a line 18 inches outside off stump. Rhodes raised his bat to the horizontal to let the seemingly harmless ball through. It dipped perfectly into a footmark, turned sharply and tickled the off stump. As he left, Rhodes tapped the disturbed stump with his bat as if checking it were real and not some illusion.
Rhodes had batted nearly two hours and 30 overs for his 29 runs. Hain meanwhile had batted over two and a half hours and nearly 40 overs for his 43 runs as they fought to keep Warwickshire in the game. Now, within an over of Rhodes’ departure Hain fell to the second piece of magic and an excellent catch. At the start of the over, from Gregory, Abell moved Overton to a short, slightly backward square leg. The sort of unorthodox stage management an avant-garde director might indulge in. Gregory bowled short, once bouncing Hain so accurately he was forced to arch his back and flick his head back to avoid the ball, the ground breaking out in applause in response. Off the penultimate ball of the over, Gregory bowled short again, Hain swivelled and pulled the ball off the middle of the bat straight to Overton whose hands moved swiftly to catch the ball in front of his chest. An hour and a quarter of determined defence since lunch had frustrated Somerset. Then, within five minutes, those two pieces of magic had done what magic does and transformed the situation. When Overton took that catch everyone in the ground erupted into cheering in the same split second. The initial sound was like a whip being cracked. Immediately, it became a huge roar that eventually subsided into extended applause. Pure theatre.
Warwickshire, 89 for 5 in the 47th over, tried to regroup in the form of Burgess and Lamb. Forty-four overs, a rampant Somerset side and a crowd scenting a Championship victory stood between them and the not unrealistic prospect of salvation from the weather on the morrow. “Come on lads,” rang out from around the field as the Somerset team urged each other on. Burgess and Lamb responded more positively than their predecessors, both driving to the boundary as the Somerset bowlers stretched their length in search of movement. A flowing cover drive from Burgess and a spectacular square drive from Lamb, both off Gregory, among the boundaries. Singles too were taken more often as the ball was pushed into the gaps and the thought of drawing teeth again crept into the mind as, in half an hour, 26 runs were added.
And then, with tea approaching, came that rhythmic clapping, those three wickets from Brooks, the tumultuous Somerset cheering, and a Warwickshire score of 121 for 8. Suddenly, the Warwickshire innings was teetering on the brink of extinction. The umpires offered Abell a 15-minute extension of the session. Again, the match settled down. Lamb and Miles each drove to the boundary. The crowd tried to encourage the bowlers. “Come on Brooks,” someone shouted, perhaps trying to re-ignite the atmosphere which had surrounded those three wickets. The rhythmic clapping briefly broke out again but the huge leg before wicket appeal which followed resulted only in two leg byes and Somerset had to take tea with those final two wickets still intact and the final curtain yet to fall.
When the players came back, Lamb and Miles began to make progress, Miles belying his lowly position in the order, although I doubt anyone believed Warwickshire would get near the end of the day. I went to the Trescothick Pavilion Terrace and watched an over from Brooks from above the umpire’s head. There was no sign of movement and no apparent threat. Overton replaced Brooks and bowled in tandem with Leach. Still Lamb and Miles went on, taking the Warwickshire score beyond 160. Miles pulled Leach to the Priory Bridge Road boundary while Lamb drove Overton to the Trescothick Pavilion End, steered him through third man to the Garner Gates and pulled Leach to the Somerset Stand.
And then, suddenly, it was over. Overton beat Miles to applause and shouts of, “Come on!” Then he forced an edge which Renshaw took millimetres above the grass, diving low to his left at second slip. An over later, Lamb tried to launch a delivery from Leach into the Somerset Stand. The ball went through the stroke and left the off stump quivering. There was a huge cheer and a standing ovation, triumph and relief mixing as Somerset completed a victory of overwhelming proportions, ended a run of seven successive defeats and lifted themselves off the bottom of the table, just. “How do you lose seven on the trot and then win like that?” asked the bemused text. I suspect you don’t unless you are Somerset. Such exasperating contradictions are but part of the patchwork of Somerset’s cricketing history. And yet, we will all be back for the next match, hoping as always for a victory, and perhaps some pure theatre.
Result. Somerset 458 (M.T. Renshaw 129, T.B. Abell 70, T. Banton 57, O.J. Hannon-Dalby 5-89). Warwickshire 209 (S.R. Hain 54, N.J. McAndrew 47, J.H. Davey 3-30) and 167 f/o (S.R. Hain 43, M.J. Lamb 40, J.A. Brooks 4-44). Somerset won by an innings and 83 runs. Somerset 23 points. Warwickshire 3 points.
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Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25/04/2022 10:47
Thursday at home against the Brummies. It just keeps on coming people!!
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25/04/2022 12:39
Surely our best hope is to try to produce something dry for Leachy and VDM?
I mean we might be down Coverton and Davey and will almost certainly be down Gregory, so…
I mean we might be down Coverton and Davey and will almost certainly be down Gregory, so…
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: sheffieldsabre (IP Logged)
Date: 25/04/2022 13:12
I'm intending to be there on Friday, if anyone who knows me wants to come and say hello (the company will no doubt be better than the actual cricket if current form continues, but we can always hope that the latter improves as well ...)
I'm not quite sure yet where I'll be sitting - is Gimblett's Hill currently out of bounds due to the refurbishing work?
I'm not quite sure yet where I'll be sitting - is Gimblett's Hill currently out of bounds due to the refurbishing work?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Hamez (IP Logged)
Date: 25/04/2022 14:08
I'd like to see us produce a decent pitch that allows for actual batting. At the current rate I expect Tom Abell to leave when his contract finishes so that he can fulfill his England ambitions which are currently being sabotaged by having to bat on home pitches that favour Craig Overton and other seam bowling pals and are wrecking his average.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25/04/2022 15:01
I’d be willing to bet that Tom’s average on his travels is no great shakes.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 00:43
Shave the wicket, play 2 spinners.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 06:19
Perhaps Lewis Gregory really did have a fitness test yesterday and not an appointment with a specialist etc?
I found this, from six years ago. Back then, we gave him pain killing shots into the area of his back that had a stress fracture then we assessed him as to whether or not he was able to bowl pain-free with the jabs.
So… maybe it was the same thing again? We did the test yesterday and, if he passed it then he can keep bowling (but maybe would still need yet another procedure at season’s end) and if he fails it then either he plays the rest of the season as batsman only or he goes straight off for yet another op? Difficult not to feel very sorry for the guy:
[www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
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I found this, from six years ago. Back then, we gave him pain killing shots into the area of his back that had a stress fracture then we assessed him as to whether or not he was able to bowl pain-free with the jabs.
So… maybe it was the same thing again? We did the test yesterday and, if he passed it then he can keep bowling (but maybe would still need yet another procedure at season’s end) and if he fails it then either he plays the rest of the season as batsman only or he goes straight off for yet another op? Difficult not to feel very sorry for the guy:
[www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 06:25
Lewis’s absence gives Andy and Jason real problems with balancing the side.
Possible solutions;
1) Dry home pitches and VDM.
2) Pick an extra batsman, without considering the bowling, meaning Davies at 7
3) Give Ben Green a regular role, whether at six or seven?
4) Kasey Aldridge time?
5) ?????????????
Possible solutions;
1) Dry home pitches and VDM.
2) Pick an extra batsman, without considering the bowling, meaning Davies at 7
3) Give Ben Green a regular role, whether at six or seven?
4) Kasey Aldridge time?
5) ?????????????
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 08:57
Is Lewis going to be absent?
Update on Tuesday - nothing on club site this morning. Is there a statement elsewhere?
Until that is the case can we please not use speculation as fact BEFORE it is stated officially.
Speculate by all means but don't post as if your view of how things are IS FACT when evidence of that is not present yet.
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Update on Tuesday - nothing on club site this morning. Is there a statement elsewhere?
Until that is the case can we please not use speculation as fact BEFORE it is stated officially.
Speculate by all means but don't post as if your view of how things are IS FACT when evidence of that is not present yet.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 09:10
Hamez - Just a thought but do you not think that, as club and red ball Captain, Tom Abell will have had significant input into Somerset strategy viz pitches?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 11:12
The unusual prolonged spell of Easterly winds looks set to continue for this match, albeit veering to the North for Sunday, if the match goes that long. So cool but dry. Perhaps it will help us to start the track dry, should we wish to.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 12:37
Lewis Gregory in the CC in 2021:
9 matches 10 innings 2 not outs 389 runs HS 107 Ave 48.62 1x100 3x50
That is a score of 50+ per 2 completed innings.
That placed Gregory sixth in the averages of players who play for current first division teams and who played five or more matches in 2021.
By way of comparison in 2018 James Hildreth was the last Somerset player to score a thousand Championship runs in a season with stats of:
14 matches 26 innings 2 not outs 1089 runs HS 184 Ave 45.37 3x100 6 50
That is a score of 50+ per 2.7 completed innings.
In 2021 Gregory replaced Hildreth for the final match of the season and played as a batsman only. He scored 68 and 31, top scoring in a Somerset first innings of 389 and equal top scoring in a second innings of 154, batting at seven in each innings.
Farmer
9 matches 10 innings 2 not outs 389 runs HS 107 Ave 48.62 1x100 3x50
That is a score of 50+ per 2 completed innings.
That placed Gregory sixth in the averages of players who play for current first division teams and who played five or more matches in 2021.
By way of comparison in 2018 James Hildreth was the last Somerset player to score a thousand Championship runs in a season with stats of:
14 matches 26 innings 2 not outs 1089 runs HS 184 Ave 45.37 3x100 6 50
That is a score of 50+ per 2.7 completed innings.
In 2021 Gregory replaced Hildreth for the final match of the season and played as a batsman only. He scored 68 and 31, top scoring in a Somerset first innings of 389 and equal top scoring in a second innings of 154, batting at seven in each innings.
Farmer
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 21:04
Hamez
Viz these pitches “wrecking,” our batsmen.
Well, funnily enough, last season the home games did not go well for Tom Abell but I think that was a pure chance thing because there was little evidence, last season, that players were undone by batting at Taunton. Appearing below are the home averages for sometime members of the Somerset top six in 2021 and (in parentheses) are their overall averages for the season;
Banton: 24.14 (18.84) - so better at home
Lammonby 20.33 (19.60) - a wash
Abell 24.20 (39.50) - so Abell much worse at home
Hildreth 21.60 (22.80) - a wash
Bartlett 28.42 (24.86) - slightly better at home
Davies 40.55 (31.70) - clearly better at home
Goldsworthy 20.60 (21.21) - a wash
Overall? These figures provide little support for the idea that there is something wrong with our pitches that really undermines our batsmen.
Note: According to the umpires NO COUNTY produced better pitches than Somerset in 2021 - so congrats to the Somerset ground staff.
ECB Pitches Table of Merit
1. Somerset 5.57
1. Derbys 5.57
3. Warks 5.50
Glamorgan, Durham, Hants and perennial culprits, Essex, were assessed as producing the worst tracks.
Conclusion? If Tom Abell had a poor time of things at Taunton last season, Tom Abell was to blame NOT our pitches.
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Viz these pitches “wrecking,” our batsmen.
Well, funnily enough, last season the home games did not go well for Tom Abell but I think that was a pure chance thing because there was little evidence, last season, that players were undone by batting at Taunton. Appearing below are the home averages for sometime members of the Somerset top six in 2021 and (in parentheses) are their overall averages for the season;
Banton: 24.14 (18.84) - so better at home
Lammonby 20.33 (19.60) - a wash
Abell 24.20 (39.50) - so Abell much worse at home
Hildreth 21.60 (22.80) - a wash
Bartlett 28.42 (24.86) - slightly better at home
Davies 40.55 (31.70) - clearly better at home
Goldsworthy 20.60 (21.21) - a wash
Overall? These figures provide little support for the idea that there is something wrong with our pitches that really undermines our batsmen.
Note: According to the umpires NO COUNTY produced better pitches than Somerset in 2021 - so congrats to the Somerset ground staff.
ECB Pitches Table of Merit
1. Somerset 5.57
1. Derbys 5.57
3. Warks 5.50
Glamorgan, Durham, Hants and perennial culprits, Essex, were assessed as producing the worst tracks.
Conclusion? If Tom Abell had a poor time of things at Taunton last season, Tom Abell was to blame NOT our pitches.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 21:28
More evidence that it’s the Somerset top six and not the Somerset pitches that are the problem at Taunton.
Consider first innings scores for the first 5 wkts at Taunton last season:
Somerset 110 Vs Gloucs 160
Middx 239 Vs Somerset 188
Somerset 43 Vs Hants 110
Somerset 206 Vs Leics 177*
Notts 194 Vs Somerset 72
Lancs 201 Vs Somerset 65
* The only one of six games in which the Som top six outperformed the oppo top six on the same Taunton pitch.
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Consider first innings scores for the first 5 wkts at Taunton last season:
Somerset 110 Vs Gloucs 160
Middx 239 Vs Somerset 188
Somerset 43 Vs Hants 110
Somerset 206 Vs Leics 177*
Notts 194 Vs Somerset 72
Lancs 201 Vs Somerset 65
* The only one of six games in which the Som top six outperformed the oppo top six on the same Taunton pitch.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 21:33
Hope you don’t get indigestion AG as it would appear you’ve swallowed your Wisden!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 21:40
I found this analysis for runs per wicket at the county grounds in 2017-19:
[redballdata.blog]
Surrey are top (35), Somerset second from bottom (24). There is also the comment further down that Tom Abell's average would be increased if adjusted for his home county.
If anyone finds comparable data for 2020 & 21, it would be very interesting
[redballdata.blog]
Surrey are top (35), Somerset second from bottom (24). There is also the comment further down that Tom Abell's average would be increased if adjusted for his home county.
If anyone finds comparable data for 2020 & 21, it would be very interesting
Re: Warwickshire as we move one
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 21:40
Haha, Hants.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move one
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 22:03
LaLaLa - 2021 Taunton figures:
312 + 149 + 309 + 156/2 + 357 + 117 + 268 + 209/6 + 206/4 + 360 + 409/7, 311, 88/2 + 461/9 + 475/7 + 448 + 107 + 181 + 373 + 32/0 + 90 + 314 = 5732 / 177 = 32.38 runs per wkt at Taunton in 2021.
2020 is not worth looking at as there were only two games!
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312 + 149 + 309 + 156/2 + 357 + 117 + 268 + 209/6 + 206/4 + 360 + 409/7, 311, 88/2 + 461/9 + 475/7 + 448 + 107 + 181 + 373 + 32/0 + 90 + 314 = 5732 / 177 = 32.38 runs per wkt at Taunton in 2021.
2020 is not worth looking at as there were only two games!
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Re: Warwickshire as we move one
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/04/2022 22:10
LaLaLa - in that table it suggests that SCCC batsmen could have averages 7% higher if they played elsewhere.
One obvious problem with that? Most of our averages would still be very poor even if they were 7% higher!
We’ve had many guys averaging around 25 or so in recent seasons. Add 7% to that and you get…… (drumroll please…) an average of 26.75.., still ruddy awful!!
One obvious problem with that? Most of our averages would still be very poor even if they were 7% higher!
We’ve had many guys averaging around 25 or so in recent seasons. Add 7% to that and you get…… (drumroll please…) an average of 26.75.., still ruddy awful!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move one
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 11:30
Personally I think the club will try to go with the flattest possible wicket and pray for a high-scoring draw. Mind you, I thought they’d do that Vs Essex! (Although, per Kerr, the Essex pitch was more phallus-up than conspiracy).
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 12:11
Pitch over on the west side of the square.
Temp. stand completed. So is the River Stand.
Temp. stand completed. So is the River Stand.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 14:04
Somerset welcome back Lewis Gregory, but are still without Sonny Baker (back).
The 14-man Somerset squad for this match is: Tom Abell (c), Tom Banton, Jack Brooks, Josh Davey, Steve Davies, Ben Green, Lewis Gregory, James Hildreth, Tom Lammonby, Jack Leach, Craig Overton, Matt Renshaw, Peter Siddle and Roelof van der Merwe.
The 14-man Somerset squad for this match is: Tom Abell (c), Tom Banton, Jack Brooks, Josh Davey, Steve Davies, Ben Green, Lewis Gregory, James Hildreth, Tom Lammonby, Jack Leach, Craig Overton, Matt Renshaw, Peter Siddle and Roelof van der Merwe.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 14:17
Wonder if that means we’re managing LG with pain-killing injections as per that previous plan under MM then?
I assume it’s that rather than that we have decided there’s nothing wrong with him. But maybe the “fitness test,” was an appointment with a specialist who cleared LG of having any serious injury. Let’s hope so.
I assume it’s that rather than that we have decided there’s nothing wrong with him. But maybe the “fitness test,” was an appointment with a specialist who cleared LG of having any serious injury. Let’s hope so.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 17:14
Or alternatively Lewis is fit and ready to go.
One could also assume that as the policy under 'MM' didn't work particularly well they aren't doing that again.
Hypothetically of course because I don't think we know until we see him in action tomorrow. If of course he is picked from the 14
One could also assume that as the policy under 'MM' didn't work particularly well they aren't doing that again.
Hypothetically of course because I don't think we know until we see him in action tomorrow. If of course he is picked from the 14
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 17:21
As they've included RvdM the 2 spin option may be on the cards although Roelof has had a decent time with the bat recently and could probably claim a place on that basis.
Assuming Renshaw, Abell, Banton, Overton, Siddle, Leach and Davey are all likely to be in then you can perm from the others to get your eleven
Assuming Renshaw, Abell, Banton, Overton, Siddle, Leach and Davey are all likely to be in then you can perm from the others to get your eleven
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 17:26
Yeah, under MM it worked for a while, and then the painkilling effect of the jabs wore off, and LG was sent off for surgery anyway.
Anyways, assuming that Lewis is fit enough to play a full part (I.e all-rounder) in the side, then I guess probably the only debate that management might have among themselves might be Davey or Brooks.
They will presumably pick:
Renshaw
Lammonby
Abell (c)
Hildreth
Banton
Davies (w)
Gregory
Coverton
Davey (or Brooks at 11)
Siddle (9 if Brooks plays)
Leachy (10 if Brooks plays)
If Lewis cannot play a full part, then Green or VDM presumably come into the equation.
I know Josh was supposed to be “sore,” after the Oval, which is slightly worrying because his workload wasn’t that high, but I assume that’s just been declared part of getting back into the swing of things. I think we need to get him back as fully functional well before the ECB start to restrict Craig again.
I guess that Peter is not going to rest because, if he were, then I guess we might have put MDL into the squad unless management have 100% given up on him as a red ball option.
Anyways, assuming that Lewis is fit enough to play a full part (I.e all-rounder) in the side, then I guess probably the only debate that management might have among themselves might be Davey or Brooks.
They will presumably pick:
Renshaw
Lammonby
Abell (c)
Hildreth
Banton
Davies (w)
Gregory
Coverton
Davey (or Brooks at 11)
Siddle (9 if Brooks plays)
Leachy (10 if Brooks plays)
If Lewis cannot play a full part, then Green or VDM presumably come into the equation.
I know Josh was supposed to be “sore,” after the Oval, which is slightly worrying because his workload wasn’t that high, but I assume that’s just been declared part of getting back into the swing of things. I think we need to get him back as fully functional well before the ECB start to restrict Craig again.
I guess that Peter is not going to rest because, if he were, then I guess we might have put MDL into the squad unless management have 100% given up on him as a red ball option.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 18:09
Davey would always be my choice.
Was quite suprised when the whole commentary team in the last game were all shocked that I rated Josh Davey as more than a 4th seamer in our line up behind Cove, Siddle and Gregory.
Ahh well... still ahead of our other 4th choices I'd suggest.
Was quite suprised when the whole commentary team in the last game were all shocked that I rated Josh Davey as more than a 4th seamer in our line up behind Cove, Siddle and Gregory.
Ahh well... still ahead of our other 4th choices I'd suggest.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 18:28
Josh Davey is less effective if he doesn’t get the new ball though and I can’t see Siddle or Overton giving way
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 18:40
True, he bowls better with Cove in the side but he's in our top 4 whoever the other one besides Siddle is IMHO. That's if he's fit and probably even if he's sore.
The other question is possibly whether there is a place for Green or RvdM as the batting allrounder
It'll be interesting
The other question is possibly whether there is a place for Green or RvdM as the batting allrounder
It'll be interesting
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 19:17
Don’t forget, Hants, that against Essex they actually handed LG the new ball over Cove.
I don’t think that will happen again unless they are expecting swing and, with a chilly Easterly forecast and sunshine, swing seems doubtful.
There’s a school of thought that both LG and JD are much more effective with the new ball than old, though.
If LG and JD are seen as 9/10 with the new ball but only 6/10 with old, whereas Craig and Peter are also seen as 9.5/10 with the new ball but 8/10 with an older one, then I guess we could still get the non-Test bowlers up front.
I don’t think that will happen again unless they are expecting swing and, with a chilly Easterly forecast and sunshine, swing seems doubtful.
There’s a school of thought that both LG and JD are much more effective with the new ball than old, though.
If LG and JD are seen as 9/10 with the new ball but only 6/10 with old, whereas Craig and Peter are also seen as 9.5/10 with the new ball but 8/10 with an older one, then I guess we could still get the non-Test bowlers up front.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/04/2022 19:25
Think it was Siddle instead of Cove AG.
The explanation we got was that Cove had been out for a game and they wanted to have 2 bites at Cook and thought Siddle might have a but of inside info on the Essex man. Also weren't sure if Siddle was gonna work opening so they checked 2 things at once giving him a chance at both ends.
Take all that how you like. Think they'll open together from now on especially as Gregory and Davey will both be coming back to full fitness if they play.
The explanation we got was that Cove had been out for a game and they wanted to have 2 bites at Cook and thought Siddle might have a but of inside info on the Essex man. Also weren't sure if Siddle was gonna work opening so they checked 2 things at once giving him a chance at both ends.
Take all that how you like. Think they'll open together from now on especially as Gregory and Davey will both be coming back to full fitness if they play.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 00:37
When will they be fully fit?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 07:10
In JD’s case, one would hope that this match will be sufficient to get him fully fit.
In LG’s case, it would seem unlikely that his back will ever cease to be a concern?
In LG’s case, it would seem unlikely that his back will ever cease to be a concern?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 09:02
When that was discussed at the end of last season the inference was that it would not be a concern and would not affect his bowling this season. Think I'm gonna go with that analysis for now and hope it was just a twinge scare.
Yes hope Josh's 'soreness' was good soreness and it shows he's back to fighting form.
Ahh well it's a bowling morning in Bicknoller. Grey & overcast.
Yes hope Josh's 'soreness' was good soreness and it shows he's back to fighting form.
Ahh well it's a bowling morning in Bicknoller. Grey & overcast.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:08
Same at the ground at 10
Scorecard leaves Brooks RvdM and Green out with Lammonby and Renshaw opening and Banton at 4 Steve bats at 6 ahead of Gregory
Scorecard leaves Brooks RvdM and Green out with Lammonby and Renshaw opening and Banton at 4 Steve bats at 6 ahead of Gregory
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:18
I hope Tom bowls then, should he get the choice.
Too often have we heard Somerset captains, on electing to bat in potentially tricky conditions, saying:
“We thought that, if we could just get through a tricky first hour then it would flatten out nicely and be good for batting on.’
I’ve heard Tom say similar on many occasions, such as at North Marine Road last season… suffice to say, it’s not worth taking that gamble!
Too often have we heard Somerset captains, on electing to bat in potentially tricky conditions, saying:
“We thought that, if we could just get through a tricky first hour then it would flatten out nicely and be good for batting on.’
I’ve heard Tom say similar on many occasions, such as at North Marine Road last season… suffice to say, it’s not worth taking that gamble!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:19
Members now abed can look for theirs on their email it seems as they have been sent their own individual one
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:23
It is still very grey here - there is a suggestion of blue sky above but no suggestion of sun burning off the cloud early.
This is more of a consideration if the speculation about levels of bowler fitness are a consideration. Bat first and give the bowlers a bit more time. However, the way we bat in dodgy conditions suggests that 'bit more time' will have more emphasis on the 'bit'
This is more of a consideration if the speculation about levels of bowler fitness are a consideration. Bat first and give the bowlers a bit more time. However, the way we bat in dodgy conditions suggests that 'bit more time' will have more emphasis on the 'bit'
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:34
Per the official FB site, today is the fifth anniversary of Roelof’s absurd demolition of Surrey.
At the point that VDM brought up his ton, such had been the extent of the earlier damage done to our batting that WASP still showed a 62% chance of the Brown Caps prevailing!
At the point that VDM brought up his ton, such had been the extent of the earlier damage done to our batting that WASP still showed a 62% chance of the Brown Caps prevailing!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:39
Toss taking place
No Siddle it seems Brooks plays
Siddle has a 'stomach strain'
Warwickshire won the toss and are fielding
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No Siddle it seems Brooks plays
Siddle has a 'stomach strain'
Warwickshire won the toss and are fielding
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:39
No Chris Woakes - presumably due to Execrable Cricket Board interference - and Liam Norwell is missing with concussion for the Bears. So that’s a couple of good pieces of news for Somerset. An Aussie by the name of McAndrew might debut for our visitors.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:41
No Siddle .. but no MDL even named in squad?
Well that would seem to confirm that management have very little faith in MDL. We know the guy is fit as playing the seconds. Oh dear.
Well that would seem to confirm that management have very little faith in MDL. We know the guy is fit as playing the seconds. Oh dear.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:44
Siddle was a given a fitness test on a “stomach strain,” which he duly failed.
A rather large miss, I’d suggest, based on his performances so far albeit he was possibly due a rest anyway due to his large workload thus far.
A rather large miss, I’d suggest, based on his performances so far albeit he was possibly due a rest anyway due to his large workload thus far.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:46
Lost toss.
“Invited,” to bat.
“Invited,” to bat.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:49
MdL will be bowling at Taunton Vale today?
Q&A session for members with Gordon 20 minutes after the end of Day 2 in the MT Pavilion. You'll need membership cards to get in people.
So get your questions ready or get a member to ask your question if you can't be here and we'll see what comes out of it.
Q&A session for members with Gordon 20 minutes after the end of Day 2 in the MT Pavilion. You'll need membership cards to get in people.
So get your questions ready or get a member to ask your question if you can't be here and we'll see what comes out of it.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:54
Well whoever was going to win the toss was going to bat AG not sure why the 'invited' is in inverted commas - we would have 'invited' Warwickshire to bat as well.
A question appearing here is 'Why pick |Jack Leach?' He probably isn't going to take many here and RvdM is a slow bowler who has his eye in with the bat and might give more to our fragile batting in this game.
I like Jack and he is a solid number 10 but RvdM has the chance of getting some very valuable tailend runs.
Hmmmm Suppose, like very many other things. We will see.
A question appearing here is 'Why pick |Jack Leach?' He probably isn't going to take many here and RvdM is a slow bowler who has his eye in with the bat and might give more to our fragile batting in this game.
I like Jack and he is a solid number 10 but RvdM has the chance of getting some very valuable tailend runs.
Hmmmm Suppose, like very many other things. We will see.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 10:55
McAndrew does play for Warks
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:04
I think Gregory was rested last week and Siddle is rested this week. Rotation makes good sense to me, no need for strained this or sore that. Bat well, chaps.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:11
Siddle failed a fitness test, SP.
Gregory had a sore and stiff back last week.
Gregory had a sore and stiff back last week.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:13
This Warwickshire attack doesn’t look any great shakes, fill your boots guys!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:15
I know that’s the official line AG; I think they’re rested, and that’s fine by me.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:25
In LG’s case that would be very unlikely, SP.
After the Oval, Jason Kerr said LG would be given a fitness test and “if he passes, that’s fine but if he doesn’t he’s likely to be out for quite a long time.”
So that certainly suggests that LG had an issue they were really concerned about.
Anyway, the first 5 and a half overs don’t seem to have prevented any insurmountable difficulties. Sometimes the ball swings more after the initial lacquer has worn off but it may be “too cold to swing,” out there, anyway.
Sorry AG the teacher in me would have seen that every time I passed the post.
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After the Oval, Jason Kerr said LG would be given a fitness test and “if he passes, that’s fine but if he doesn’t he’s likely to be out for quite a long time.”
So that certainly suggests that LG had an issue they were really concerned about.
Anyway, the first 5 and a half overs don’t seem to have prevented any insurmountable difficulties. Sometimes the ball swings more after the initial lacquer has worn off but it may be “too cold to swing,” out there, anyway.
Sorry AG the teacher in me would have seen that every time I passed the post.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:28
Think Warwickshire put us in based on our fragile batting rather than conditions. Hopefully it backfires on them
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:48
Hannon-Dalby and Briggs have been in the wickets for Warwickshire this season, but CraigO more. On paper we have the better bowling attack, even without Siddle. Let's hope we can match their batters
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 11:58
So far it’s been pretty moderate stuff from Warks. A good amount of misdirected stuff, and well taken advantage of, thus far.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:03
When were we last 50 for 0 n the first innings of a CC game anyone?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:04
Good job, openers!!!
15 gone and… James Hildreth and Tom Abell are.. sat in the pavilion, but before their innings and not after!!
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15 gone and… James Hildreth and Tom Abell are.. sat in the pavilion, but before their innings and not after!!
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:09
v Leicestershire at Taunton last July, Conway and Davies. We played for the draw
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:10
Looks like Hampshire are playing our innings this round being 40 for 5 against Lancs
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:27
Renahaw’s leave kind of the polar opposite of Banger’s.
So many oppo fans were fooled by Marcus’s leave into thinking he’d played and missed. Renshaw’s leave leaves no room for any such doubts.
So many oppo fans were fooled by Marcus’s leave into thinking he’d played and missed. Renshaw’s leave leaves no room for any such doubts.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:34
Not a lot of encouragement for Leachy in Briggs’ first over.
Having made an excellent start we must show focus and ruthlessness with no daft giveaways to precipitate a collapse at any point.
Even allowing for the fact that Warks have been less than stellar with the ball, the pitch does not exactly appear loaded with menace. So BIG first innings score, please!
Great six from MR!
Having made an excellent start we must show focus and ruthlessness with no daft giveaways to precipitate a collapse at any point.
Even allowing for the fact that Warks have been less than stellar with the ball, the pitch does not exactly appear loaded with menace. So BIG first innings score, please!
Great six from MR!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:37
As the commentators have said, Renshaw's leave is the Queensland leave.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:46
50 for |Matt Renshaw off a pretty dodgy single - 80 balls 97 without loss
Lammonby 4 away from 50
100 partnership up with a Renshaw boundary
Lammonby 4 away from 50
100 partnership up with a Renshaw boundary
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:56
Very well done to TL.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:56
Am I right in saying we only play Lancashire once this season? That seems fair
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:56
Goodness !
And very good.
Grizzers
And very good.
Grizzers
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 12:57
Well played guys. I can go to the little boys room now!! 122 for 0 Renshaw 68 Lammonby 52
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike K (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:03
Terrific morning’s batting from Tom and Matt, very enjoyable to watch
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:07
A very good session for SCCC and, frankly, an unmitigated nightmare for the Bears.
Even if they hadn’t won the toss, they’d be unhappy with their complete inability to bowl dry. There was a lot of buffet stuff and we took advantage of almost all of it.
It doesn’t look the sort of track where a batting side should lose many wickets quickly. So I suspect Tom A will already know that the most probable route to success is a big first innings score to create some scoreboard pressure, and then bowling dry to back that up and hope for some mistakes from the oppo. We’ll also be hoping for some sort of help for Leachy later.
Before that? Must be relentless, ruthless and remorseless for the next few sessions. One would think that they are unlikely to bowl as badly again in any subsequent session.
Even if they hadn’t won the toss, they’d be unhappy with their complete inability to bowl dry. There was a lot of buffet stuff and we took advantage of almost all of it.
It doesn’t look the sort of track where a batting side should lose many wickets quickly. So I suspect Tom A will already know that the most probable route to success is a big first innings score to create some scoreboard pressure, and then bowling dry to back that up and hope for some mistakes from the oppo. We’ll also be hoping for some sort of help for Leachy later.
Before that? Must be relentless, ruthless and remorseless for the next few sessions. One would think that they are unlikely to bowl as badly again in any subsequent session.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Hamez (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:23
Finally we put out a good pitch and credit to our openers cashing in. I'm sure the top 6 will be feeling much more confident though Coverton might not be as happy when he has to bowl and isn't guaranteed a five for.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Goonie goo goo (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:28
Well impressed with renshaw this morning!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:31
There was NOTHING wrong with the Taunton pitches last year, Hamez.
The umpires rated them the best in the country!
So Somerset’s bowlers *earnt* their figures and the batsmen simply weren’t good enough. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
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The umpires rated them the best in the country!
So Somerset’s bowlers *earnt* their figures and the batsmen simply weren’t good enough. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Hamez (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:47
Quote:AGod
There was NOTHING wrong with the Taunton pitches last year, Hamez.
The umpires rated them the best in the country!
So Somerset’s bowlers *earnt* their figures and the batsmen simply weren’t good enough. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
The umpires rate them highly because they frequently get an extra day off.
Tom Abell will be looking forward to batting on this deck for once with Lammonby already looking much better than he has at home in recent times.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:52
(edited)
Abell apart, none of the other members of the top six did any better away from home than at home, whilst Banton and Davies were both worse on their travels.
Equally, those SCCC pace bowlers that had good overall figures also did well away from home.
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Abell apart, none of the other members of the top six did any better away from home than at home, whilst Banton and Davies were both worse on their travels.
Equally, those SCCC pace bowlers that had good overall figures also did well away from home.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Hamez (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 13:57
I'm just glad we've finally decided to put out a decent deck. Failure to do this would have lead to two things:
Abell leaving so that he can go and score 1k runs a season somewhere else and be picked for England. With Lammonby to follow.
Overton continuing to take wickets at an average of about 10 at home whilst looking bang average (at best) for England.
Abell leaving so that he can go and score 1k runs a season somewhere else and be picked for England. With Lammonby to follow.
Overton continuing to take wickets at an average of about 10 at home whilst looking bang average (at best) for England.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 14:37
I highly doubt that Andy Hurry and Jason Kerr decide on SCCC pitch strategy with no consultation whatsoever with the club Captain.
In any event, there’s no great difference between this pitch and those produced for home games with Surrey, Hants, Leics and, indeed, Lancs and Notts last season.
In any event, there’s no great difference between this pitch and those produced for home games with Surrey, Hants, Leics and, indeed, Lancs and Notts last season.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 15:06
100 off 158 16 fours and 1 six - last 4 to bring it up in Rernshaw fashjion
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 15:27
A batting point with 9 wickets in hand - wonder when that last happened!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 15:35
No reason why we shouldn’t pick up maximum batting points here given the rate we are scoring at
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 15:37
Our main danger of getting out looks like getting caught behind down the leg side given how wayward their bowling has been
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 15:38
Possibly when Phil Frost was still in the club’s employ?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 15:52
Goodness !
And very very good.
Grizzers
And very very good.
Grizzers
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 16:03
Matt goes just before Tea for 129 - now this is a base for something James!!
Now do you send in Banton or Hildreth?
Now do you send in Banton or Hildreth?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 16:03
Well played Matt Renshaw, so disappointing to get out 2 balls before tea
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 16:26
Banton in first and another bonus point
and to be fair Hannon-Dalby worked damn hard for that wicket
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and to be fair Hannon-Dalby worked damn hard for that wicket
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 16:33
Anything OHD can do, Cove ought to be able to at least match.
Davey, Gregory and Brooks need to do much, much better, than the likes of Rhodes, Miles and McAndrew have done, in support, thus far.
It would be shocking if Leachy were not significantly more effective than Danny Briggs has been.
Davey, Gregory and Brooks need to do much, much better, than the likes of Rhodes, Miles and McAndrew have done, in support, thus far.
It would be shocking if Leachy were not significantly more effective than Danny Briggs has been.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 16:42
Well you'd think that based on performances this year we should expect more than this from most of them. Certainly you'd expect Josh and Craig to be looking at this and thinking - we could do well in this one. But until both sides bat.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 16:48
Yeah.
The worry would be that this may prove one of those tracks that just gets flatter.
I’m 99% sure that we’d have done better *today* with our bowling than Warks have done, but if the track gets progressively flatter then it might prove tough to take wickets on days 3 and 4 etc.
The worry would be that this may prove one of those tracks that just gets flatter.
I’m 99% sure that we’d have done better *today* with our bowling than Warks have done, but if the track gets progressively flatter then it might prove tough to take wickets on days 3 and 4 etc.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 16:56
Well it could suffer from that Day 3 disease we sometimes have... hope not though
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike K (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:11
Tom goes for 70 caught down the leg side
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:12
Tom caught down the leg side again but with 70 to his name
Matt Renshaw's century was the 4th in 6 home games for Somerset
He did play once here for Kent as well
Matt Renshaw's century was the 4th in 6 home games for Somerset
He did play once here for Kent as well
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:12
A bitterly disappointing end for the Captain, really.
Played well, as he usually does Vs Warks.
Played well, as he usually does Vs Warks.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:13
4 in 6 is rather good!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:16
These two Notts batters - the last wicket pair - look huge … as though Notts still had mines and had just whistled down to summon them!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:22
New ball with 16 overs left tonight
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:33
Hildreth not looking hugely comfortable out there and still keen to flip that ball out to the gully/point area if given the chance.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:38
A one handed four takes us past 300
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:49
Anyone know when we last got maximum bonus points in a game?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:50
I would guess Hants at home last season.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:57
Seems it was Leicestershire in Early July here
Wafty Hidreth dismissal again?
Wafty Hidreth dismissal again?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 17:58
Typical Hildreth, I’m afraid. Didn’t get over that cut shot at all.
A good win for the twos.
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A good win for the twos.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 18:00
Davies manages to leave the first wide one!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 18:30
A very good day, at last.
If we go on to 450 and then bowl anything like then the losing run should finally be over.
And hopefully we can have a good go at actually trying to force a win.
If we go on to 450 and then bowl anything like then the losing run should finally be over.
And hopefully we can have a good go at actually trying to force a win.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 19:05
Steady. Positivity is almost breaking out.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 19:16
Blame the new batting coach, Lachlan Stevens
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Hamez (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 19:43
A ton and two fifties from the top 3 with another 50 to come from Banton surely.
Thank you groundsman!
Thank you groundsman!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 20:00
Feels good to have proper runs on the board - great collective performance by the top six. Dinner tasted better this evening!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 20:09
Good day. Now eyes on the prize tomorrow bat them out of this and for once give the bowlers room to breath.
It is only one game but all the top four have progressed so is THIS our top 4 going forward? Renshaw, Lammonby, Abell and Banton?
I know there is already Twitter demands to give Tom the red bsll gloves but as we've extended Steve"s contract and we possibly have another batting keeper in the wings is there a reason to rush that when we can bring James Rew on and build towards a stronger 6.
There is SO much to benefit from a comfortable and confident Tom Banton if Lammonby and Banton are clicking into place this could be very special. But it's still early days for anything but a little optimism.
It is only one game but all the top four have progressed so is THIS our top 4 going forward? Renshaw, Lammonby, Abell and Banton?
I know there is already Twitter demands to give Tom the red bsll gloves but as we've extended Steve"s contract and we possibly have another batting keeper in the wings is there a reason to rush that when we can bring James Rew on and build towards a stronger 6.
There is SO much to benefit from a comfortable and confident Tom Banton if Lammonby and Banton are clicking into place this could be very special. But it's still early days for anything but a little optimism.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 20:20
Somerset v Warwickshire day 1 photos.
This is more like it- the scorecard tell the story.
Tom Lammonby hitting his 50 plus another 4 runs.
Good opening partnership.
Tom Abell hitting 4 runs, a good knock, was hoping for a hundred.
McAndrew, this is a new one for me, I can't ever remember seeing a player wearing (0) on his back.
Matt Renshaw does have one weakness, going for the wide ball, forgiven after his knock today.
Best bowler today without a doubt Oliver Hannon-Doby, some of his balls ever beat Matt Renshaw bat (just)
Now for some good shots from Matt Renshaw, this is his 6 runs.
James Hildreth 4 runs, played some good shots before not keeping a ball down and being caught in the covers.
Tomorrow we must go for maximum batting points, I am not concerned about going for a very large total, and ending up a high scoring draw.
This is more like it- the scorecard tell the story.
Tom Lammonby hitting his 50 plus another 4 runs.
Good opening partnership.
Tom Abell hitting 4 runs, a good knock, was hoping for a hundred.
McAndrew, this is a new one for me, I can't ever remember seeing a player wearing (0) on his back.
Matt Renshaw does have one weakness, going for the wide ball, forgiven after his knock today.
Best bowler today without a doubt Oliver Hannon-Doby, some of his balls ever beat Matt Renshaw bat (just)
Now for some good shots from Matt Renshaw, this is his 6 runs.
James Hildreth 4 runs, played some good shots before not keeping a ball down and being caught in the covers.
Tomorrow we must go for maximum batting points, I am not concerned about going for a very large total, and ending up a high scoring draw.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 21:18
Great photos, Mike.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 21:48
Hmmm, good day. Might come down Saturday, sick of 2 day games.
Are spectators allowed on the outfield now?
Are spectators allowed on the outfield now?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Owain Glyndwr (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 22:04
Another shocking performance, I'm surprised the whole coaching team, players, and administrative staff haven't resigned. Charlatans, the lot of them.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 22:26
No outfield walk, they are still saying parts of the outfield were re-seeded and not ready to be walked on.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 22:29
Are you talking about the Warwickshire staff Owain?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 22:47
I hope those reseeded areas are marked out to deter cricketers from running and sliding on them.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2022 23:26
If you are in tomorrow don't forget to bring your questions for Mr Hollins and plan to stay a little longer for the Q&A
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 00:12
That must have been a refreshing and deeply satisfying day for everyone, (well, apart from Warks.).
Really hoping we can build confidence from here, get maximum batting points, then put Warks. under pressure pdq.
Good to hear we produced a good batting strip as well, albeit our bowlers may have to work hard.
Grizzers
Really hoping we can build confidence from here, get maximum batting points, then put Warks. under pressure pdq.
Good to hear we produced a good batting strip as well, albeit our bowlers may have to work hard.
Grizzers
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 06:57
Renshaw said the pitch was 'doing a bit' all day so there's some hope but with luck we won't have to bowl on it until about lunchtime. Still a bit of work to do with the bat.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 09:11
There was mention of it “starting to nibble,” and “swing.”
This, I think, was from lunchtime onwards.
Swing is a notoriously fickle mistress, though Gregory and Brooks are, perhaps, more natural swing bowlers than anyone in the Warks’ bowling ranks.
Any “nibble,” off the pitch probably relies on a little bit of moisture underneath and how long that will remain is anyone’s guess.
There was also a bit of turn for Briggs, once Renshaw had finished mauling him. Whether that will persist likely depends on whether it was due to damp or dryness. If the former, there will be less turn as the match progresses, if the latter there should be more turn as the match unfolds.
This, I think, was from lunchtime onwards.
Swing is a notoriously fickle mistress, though Gregory and Brooks are, perhaps, more natural swing bowlers than anyone in the Warks’ bowling ranks.
Any “nibble,” off the pitch probably relies on a little bit of moisture underneath and how long that will remain is anyone’s guess.
There was also a bit of turn for Briggs, once Renshaw had finished mauling him. Whether that will persist likely depends on whether it was due to damp or dryness. If the former, there will be less turn as the match progresses, if the latter there should be more turn as the match unfolds.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Whome (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 09:32
Cricket balls all play differently. Some swing more, others retain a raised seam longer and lots depend on the wear and tear throughout an innings and that’s why fielding teams are so keen to change a ball if they think it’s not doing enough. This season the Dukes ball seems to have been changed quite regularly, it’s all a bit of a lottery really.
Tom Banton beginning to look a red ball player, I wonder if we can do the same with Will Smeed?
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Tom Banton beginning to look a red ball player, I wonder if we can do the same with Will Smeed?
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 09:57
Yea, a bunch of boffins once claimed to have definitively solved the “mysteries of swing,” informing cricket watchers that they were wholly mistaken to associate it with overcast conditions etc..
However, if I remember correctly their experiments took place in a flaming wind tunnel, not in the middle of a cricket ground!
However, if I remember correctly their experiments took place in a flaming wind tunnel, not in the middle of a cricket ground!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 10:01
One of the central claims made was that - if you bowl at about 80mph the ball WILL NEVER swing in a conventional way.
This must be news to guys like Gregory and Brooks!
[www.espncricinfo.com]
Edited to add that, reading further, supposedly if a ball swings at about 80mph it will always be “contrast swing,” and never conventional swing.
Supposedly conventional swing is optmized at about 70mph and impossible at 80mph. Anybody that bowls above 90mph and swings it will always be getting reverse swing, and never any other type and so-called “contrast swing,” can be attained at a range of speeds.
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This must be news to guys like Gregory and Brooks!
[www.espncricinfo.com]
Edited to add that, reading further, supposedly if a ball swings at about 80mph it will always be “contrast swing,” and never conventional swing.
Supposedly conventional swing is optmized at about 70mph and impossible at 80mph. Anybody that bowls above 90mph and swings it will always be getting reverse swing, and never any other type and so-called “contrast swing,” can be attained at a range of speeds.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 10:45
As always too much science applied to a simple game. Just get the ball in the right place and see what happpens.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Whome (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 10:50
Cricket is not a simple game, rounders is a simple game. Cricket, as they say, is chess on grass.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 10:51
More heat this morning bit more of that sort of sun when it isn't out but it has burned the moisture off a little.
Anyway, the Somerset bowlers will be on at some time today, hoping for after the lunchbreak myself but who the hell knows.
Anyway, the Somerset bowlers will be on at some time today, hoping for after the lunchbreak myself but who the hell knows.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 10:57
Reference yesterday to 'bowling dry' caused debate a) about what it meant and b) about whether it was part of a spectrum of bowling Can you bowl 'wet' and is there a 'slightly moist' version. A few including a bunch of cricketers (of varying levels of professionalism) had no idea what it meant.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:07
So far in this match, their new Aussie has looked what he is: A guy with very little FC experience relative to his age (28).
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:18
Very simply, Grockle, it means giving nothing away (bowling dry).
Obviously, teams want to bowl accurately. But, sometimes, more priority will be given to not giving runs away than to anything else: Bob Woolmer was notorious for this when in charge of SA… he would often instruct his bowlers to “hide,” the ball outside off-stump.
Why “dry.” Because it refers to drying the runs up, an expression used by Josh Davey in this piece:
[www.thecricketer-staging.com]
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Obviously, teams want to bowl accurately. But, sometimes, more priority will be given to not giving runs away than to anything else: Bob Woolmer was notorious for this when in charge of SA… he would often instruct his bowlers to “hide,” the ball outside off-stump.
Why “dry.” Because it refers to drying the runs up, an expression used by Josh Davey in this piece:
[www.thecricketer-staging.com]
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:20
Banton gets 50 off 104 balls and 10 fours (including the one he got it with)
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:23
Davies runs himself out... not really sure what he was doing there - and a good bit of fielding to top it off. Still not going all that well for our wicketkeeper.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:24
Did we give Steve Davies some mogadon along with that new contract of his?
He seems to have gone *completely* brain dead? I mean what was that?
Starting to think the bloke must have something on his mind!?
He seems to have gone *completely* brain dead? I mean what was that?
Starting to think the bloke must have something on his mind!?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Angell (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:27
I don't understand the calls for Davies to be replaced by Banton or Rew. Davies is still one of the best keepers in the CC in my view and he's not the only one whose batting has left something to be desired. We need Banton to concentrate on scoring lots of red ball runs and Rew, however promising, is still a schoolboy.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:30
The immediate problem seems to be extremely absent-minded dismissals. As though the requisite focus simply isn’t there.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:37
Renshaw named in Sri Lanka squad for June and July..... whoops along with Marcus Harris going on the A tour
Not sure what that hits as he isn't playing T20 but there we go
Not sure what that hits as he isn't playing T20 but there we go
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:38
Collapse on and 400 looking doubtful unfortunately
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:40
375 looking unlikely
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:42
3 wickets in four balls and four in 20.....
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 11:51
Quote:Grockle
Renshaw named in Sri Lanka squad for June and July..... whoops along with Marcus Harris going on the A tour
Not sure what that hits as he isn't playing T20 but there we go
Matt only in A squad which has dates of June 8-24 so just misses Surrey red ball June 12.
He was never signed for T20 & no suggestion anywhere we would use him.
We have our 2 Overseas sorted for T20 being Peter & Marchant 💪
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 12:00
Yep after initial panic here - related to the mistake of Matt Wade being on the note and someone reading the Matt and adding the rest Renshaw is confirmed as an A tour member with Harris.
It was pretty clear pretty early that this was not a T20 issue. We presently have 2 for that tournament - will we use them both? Who can say. So it isn't drastic and hopefully the 'Renshawness' might have rubbed off on a few by then
It was pretty clear pretty early that this was not a T20 issue. We presently have 2 for that tournament - will we use them both? Who can say. So it isn't drastic and hopefully the 'Renshawness' might have rubbed off on a few by then
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 12:09
Once again baffled by the lack of a concerted effort to get the last batting bonus point when close to it and the tail in. Did it matter that we may have gone down trying? Will the time and the runs that this lot trundle through be relevant in the end and would the last point have been of more value?
I understand it's a calculation but after coming second so often I am still amazed that we don't make more of a concerted effort to gain bonus points on a regular basis
I understand it's a calculation but after coming second so often I am still amazed that we don't make more of a concerted effort to gain bonus points on a regular basis
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 12:34
Well done, Josh and Jack.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 12:40
Leachy!! Cracking shot.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 12:45
The Aussies are often convinced that county cricket is poor… ton up for McAndrew on debut ! So if he believed that then he may have been disabused of said notion.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 12:57
Not the most profitable of mornings BUT I would argue that it probably buttresses my belief that yesterday’s run fest was as much the product of bad bowling as it was very good batting or a flat pitch.
In some ways, then, we should feel more optimistic now that at COP yesterday (with the proviso that we bowl better than they did yesterday).
In some ways, then, we should feel more optimistic now that at COP yesterday (with the proviso that we bowl better than they did yesterday).
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 13:08
Leachy!!
He’ll have enjoyed that last ball from Briggs to Brooks!!
He’ll have enjoyed that last ball from Briggs to Brooks!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 13:10
Great comeback from Brooks - boom!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 13:20
Majestic stuff from the Ferret!!!
458 - what we wanted but it came from different places than expected
458 - what we wanted but it came from different places than expected
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 13:20
Excellent effort from the Jacks.
I suspect that par on this strip is around 400.
I suspect that par on this strip is around 400.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 13:53
I should like to see Leachy get an earlyish bowl, assuming the pacemen don’t run riot.
I didn’t see much swing this morning.
Miles certainly got some seam movement with the still newish ball.
I’d prefer to open with Cove and Davey, anticipating more seam than swing. Maybe 6 overs apiece, if all goes well.
Then a brief look at the two swing bowlers in tandem and then, if they don’t get it to swing in their first 3-4 overs, on with Leachy. There is some turn in this deck today. And I think we want to get Leachy into a rhythm, ASAP, as I think he will need to take a number of wickets for us to be able to win the game, as opposed to drawing it.
I didn’t see much swing this morning.
Miles certainly got some seam movement with the still newish ball.
I’d prefer to open with Cove and Davey, anticipating more seam than swing. Maybe 6 overs apiece, if all goes well.
Then a brief look at the two swing bowlers in tandem and then, if they don’t get it to swing in their first 3-4 overs, on with Leachy. There is some turn in this deck today. And I think we want to get Leachy into a rhythm, ASAP, as I think he will need to take a number of wickets for us to be able to win the game, as opposed to drawing it.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 13:56
The first spell might be the deciding factor of all this. Warwickshire guys are expecting a draw at best already. The over 450 bit is psychological so often
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:02
Craig from the MT and Jack Brooks from the River as openers... Surprising?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:04
Brooks got the nod, suggesting Tom hoping for some swing.
To be fair, Brooks’ third ball was a very good outswinger.
To be fair, Brooks’ third ball was a very good outswinger.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:06
Fourth ball also good.
But then we get the default one buffet ball per over from Brooks - a ball so poor, in this case, that most club cricketers would have smacked it for four.
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But then we get the default one buffet ball per over from Brooks - a ball so poor, in this case, that most club cricketers would have smacked it for four.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:06
And they have a four slip cordon so they seem to be hopeful of something.
But it is the pretty normal criticism of him. "four ball an over" It has been the BBC commentator criticism and you can't argue with it. He had got it under control at the end of last season and his figures were looking healthier but here we are, we 4 overs in and all the runs are from the River.
Can't "tie them down" if you let them off at one end.
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But it is the pretty normal criticism of him. "four ball an over" It has been the BBC commentator criticism and you can't argue with it. He had got it under control at the end of last season and his figures were looking healthier but here we are, we 4 overs in and all the runs are from the River.
Can't "tie them down" if you let them off at one end.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:20
Cove accurate, but limited movement thus far.
Brooks? Well if there’s another four ball in his fourth over then Tom should surely give somebody else a go.
Brooks? Well if there’s another four ball in his fourth over then Tom should surely give somebody else a go.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:28
Davies makes a right hash of a wide full one from Brooks - a shot so poor that Sibley threw his head backwards in disgust!
Good - we’ll take it!
Good - we’ll take it!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:29
Check the replay AG Davies thought it was a wide full one but it came in and cramped him up. Wasn't that why they were bowling him?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:31
Well done to our duo of Jacks to get us to 450+.
Agree completely with earlier comments re our long-standing apparent apathy towards bonus points. Have never understood why.
Time for a few wickets to fall now.
Grizzers
Agree completely with earlier comments re our long-standing apparent apathy towards bonus points. Have never understood why.
Time for a few wickets to fall now.
Grizzers
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:32
Fortunate wicket notwithstanding, Brooks continues to be far too expensive.
Get him off, please, Tom.
Very poor bowling.
Get him off, please, Tom.
Very poor bowling.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:33
But one wicket while going for 5 an over? Not really on is it?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:35
Craig looking like he might, hopefully, get Yates soon.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:38
Josh on at the River... phew
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:41
I gave that out, instantly, great bowling from Josh.
Wind your neck in Sibley, you were bang to rights!
Wind your neck in Sibley, you were bang to rights!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:44
Right, let’s see what Lewis looks like.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:46
Might possibly have been going down but it would have been close and the umpire decided it was out. Sibbley is no longer there. How sad what a shame
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:50
And… missing Peter, to put it mildly.
Seen nothing, so far, to suggest I was wrong to say that Cove and Josh should have been the new ball pairing of choice.
Equally, I still think an early bowl for Leachy seems wise.
Seen nothing, so far, to suggest I was wrong to say that Cove and Josh should have been the new ball pairing of choice.
Equally, I still think an early bowl for Leachy seems wise.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:51
50p for the Brummies but 3 down
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:52
“Slug,” scything through ‘em!!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 14:53
Must have been out caught
(Would have been v poor lbw decision!)
(Would have been v poor lbw decision!)
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:03
Yeah it got a leading edge but he was looking for it to be going somewhere else while it looped into the slips
Lewis looking OK and so is Josh
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Lewis looking OK and so is Josh
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:09
Leachy please, Tom!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:14
Gregory gets some luck
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:20
Absolutely first-rate stuff from Josh.
If only he had been ready, alongside Craig and Peter, Vs Essex!?
If only he had been ready, alongside Craig and Peter, Vs Essex!?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:21
Josh back out again, by the looks.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:23
Back up, like Lazarus!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:25
looks like he landed hard on his knee, dragged himself off the strip before he 'collapsed' then had a bit of a rest....
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:27
Lewis possibly starting to get a little bit of shape.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:31
Has Davies just put one down (leg-side strangle) off Brooks?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:35
Yes!!! Thanks, Lewis!!!!
Brummies up against it now!!
Brummies up against it now!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 15:43
Burgess is the form horse, so would be a HUGE wicket..
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:04
And he's facing.....Jack B Yay!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:04
Hmmm… That was an interesting one from Brooks.. lifted a bit and trapped the hand.. not what Warks want to see!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:05
What a FANTASTIC ball from Cove.
Yes!!!!
Yes!!!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:06
But Craigo is at the other end!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:07
Get them back in for goodness sake!
Rain forecast for Sunday, possibly all day. Can’t afford to waste time batting again!
Rain forecast for Sunday, possibly all day. Can’t afford to waste time batting again!
Re: Warwickshire as we move one
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:26
Essex getting badly outplayed again - this time by Northants! Shame!
Gloucs destroyed by Jamie Smith. He did look a very good prospect at the Oval, last year. But if rain on Sunday at Bristol then Surrey have - one assumes - batted far too long.
Hants Vs Lancs looks a humdinger of a contest.
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Gloucs destroyed by Jamie Smith. He did look a very good prospect at the Oval, last year. But if rain on Sunday at Bristol then Surrey have - one assumes - batted far too long.
Hants Vs Lancs looks a humdinger of a contest.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:39
Just what you want at 99 for 6 needing 459. Craig Overton getting into his stride!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 16:51
Fill in the footholes!
Josh down again.
Josh down again.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:00
The GREAT man strikes instantly.
Zero surprise.
Zero surprise.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:01
Jack on and in the wickets immediately
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Owain Glyndwr (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:04
Evening all, or you two at least. Seems like a brilliant day, I'll have to take the grandchildren out for the day more often.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:07
Started a little shakily but settled OG then it started moving in the right direction again. Hain looks like he's decided to get some run on the board while he has partners and before Cove comes back.
Presently 332 behind
Presently 332 behind
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:13
Victor And Peter T both talking about moving Leachy up the order.
They’re talking about moving him up as a wake-up call for Gregory and Coverton.
If that’s the rationale? Put Leachy above Davies because if anyone needs waking up…
They’re talking about moving him up as a wake-up call for Gregory and Coverton.
If that’s the rationale? Put Leachy above Davies because if anyone needs waking up…
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:14
Wear them out on the swings, BJ!!
More 99s than they can shake a stick at etc!
More 99s than they can shake a stick at etc!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Owain Glyndwr (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:22
Quote:AGod
Wear them out on the swings, BJ!!
More 99s than they can shake a stick at etc!
Job done
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:42
Come on, Brooks, 14 from an over is not what we need!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:43
And Leachy, too.
A counter-arrack on. Now, so need to tighten up a bit.
A counter-arrack on. Now, so need to tighten up a bit.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:45
Pretty much grinding to a sun drenched halt here with 14 overs to go. Breaking this partnership is important but it may end up waiting until tomorrow morning as nothing much is happening out there at the moment
Jack plugging away at one end and little for Jack Brooks at the other - a change of bowler may have something but it has slowed down to a crawl. Hain seems set as the 50 partnership comes up
Tom Abell coming on to try and break this up
Jack plugging away at one end and little for Jack Brooks at the other - a change of bowler may have something but it has slowed down to a crawl. Hain seems set as the 50 partnership comes up
Tom Abell coming on to try and break this up
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 17:46
Time to FaceTime the Grandkids or something, BJ…
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 18:06
Thanks, Tom!!!
Wide, swinging tempter accounts for Hain!!
Wide, swinging tempter accounts for Hain!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 18:36
Three bowlers have bowled well in this match and all have got their due rewards.
Biggest differences in this one so far:
A) Renshaw batted far, far better than any Bear.
Two SCCC pacemen have bowled very well Vs only one for Warks.
Biggest differences in this one so far:
A) Renshaw batted far, far better than any Bear.
Two SCCC pacemen have bowled very well Vs only one for Warks.Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Owain Glyndwr (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 18:53
Am I allowed back in, the grandkids are absolutely shattered.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 19:17
Two excellent days in a row - it feels like the cricket season has started at last!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 20:01
The key thing, now, is not to make the Negative Nelly mistake of not enforcing the follow-on:
A) Sunday’s forecast is poor
Even if that weren’t the case, Warks are miles behind and
C) There is no prospect of a marked deterioration in this surface.
So no way should we waste, say, 50 overs by batting again!
A) Sunday’s forecast is poor
Even if that weren’t the case, Warks are miles behind and
C) There is no prospect of a marked deterioration in this surface.
So no way should we waste, say, 50 overs by batting again!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Owain Glyndwr (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 20:18
Quote:AGod
The key thing, now, is not to make the Negative Nelly mistake of not enforcing the follow-on:
A) Sunday’s forecast is poor
C) There is no prospect of a marked deterioration in this surface.
So no way should we waste, say, 50 overs by batting again!
Agreed, get them back in. It's a no brainer.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 20:52
Somerset v Warwickshire 2nd days photos.
Another good day for Somerset, shame we didn't take the last wicket to stop Warwickshire getting their first batting point. (we can still do that tomorrow)
What a pity Tom Banton did not play the ball off the bowling of Craig Miles.
Michael Burgess ct Steve Davies bld Craig Overton
Matthew Lamb ct Matt Renshaw bld Lewis Gregory
Lewis Gregory bld middle stump by Oliver Hannon-Dalby
We were all worried when Josh Davey went down (twice) when bowling.
Should Jack Leach bat before Craig Overton? He knows where the middle of his bat is.
Danny Briggs lbw Jack Leach, he was not happy.
Two photos next, the same wicket.
Alex Davies ct Craig Overton bld Jack Brooks.
I wonder what will happen tomorrow!!
Another good day for Somerset, shame we didn't take the last wicket to stop Warwickshire getting their first batting point. (we can still do that tomorrow)
What a pity Tom Banton did not play the ball off the bowling of Craig Miles.
Michael Burgess ct Steve Davies bld Craig Overton
Matthew Lamb ct Matt Renshaw bld Lewis Gregory
Lewis Gregory bld middle stump by Oliver Hannon-Dalby
We were all worried when Josh Davey went down (twice) when bowling.
Should Jack Leach bat before Craig Overton? He knows where the middle of his bat is.
Danny Briggs lbw Jack Leach, he was not happy.
Two photos next, the same wicket.
Alex Davies ct Craig Overton bld Jack Brooks.
I wonder what will happen tomorrow!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 21:25
Quote:Hamez
Finally we put out a good pitch and credit to our openers cashing in. I'm sure the top 6 will be feeling much more confident though Coverton might not be as happy when he has to bowl and isn't guaranteed a five for.
Craig gets wickets on anything because he is VERY VERY good.
The best county bowler in the past 3 years without question. Gets wickets at home AND away.
Another top class effort today going at under 1 run an over on what our batters made look like a road.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2022 22:02
Hear hear. I've never seen a Craig Overton expecting a five-fer to be given to him. I've see a Craig Overton work to earn one or two and I've seen that Craig Overton in more places than Taunton.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Des Platt (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 00:39
Agreed. Questioned this winter Lancashire bat Rob Jones said he was the best non Test regular he had faced over the last five years.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 06:29
Forecast for tomorrow getting worse and worse. So Tom must show killer instinct and eschew the stupid modem fad for non-enforcement of the follow-on or else we shall deny ourselves the chance of a tilt at a win that we richly deserve.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 09:14
Agreed, but Tom may prefer the draw as for the Leicestershire game last season. I'm sure Cove & Co would prefer to rip into them again
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 10:27
Not sure given our present position we have a choice about what result we want. We need points and in the largest quantities available
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 10:35
I can confirm that LEEK AND POTATO SOUP is available in the Stragglers today at £4.50 (I think) per mug/bowl. So member power is showing it's full throated authority this morning. The people have spoken!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 10:40
Quite right, Grockle - must go for all the points.
If we were talking about declaring to leave Warks a run chase today then one could understand that caution may be the better part of valour.
But if we don’t enforce the follow-on here, then we are saying that we think there’s more than a minuscule chance of the following chain of improbable events occurring:
A) Warks, following on, score 400 at 100 runs per session
The forecast is wrong and there’s a full day tomorrow
C) Warks bundle us out for less than 150 in the final two sessions.
If we were talking about declaring to leave Warks a run chase today then one could understand that caution may be the better part of valour.
But if we don’t enforce the follow-on here, then we are saying that we think there’s more than a minuscule chance of the following chain of improbable events occurring:
A) Warks, following on, score 400 at 100 runs per session
The forecast is wrong and there’s a full day tomorrow
C) Warks bundle us out for less than 150 in the final two sessions.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 10:57
Minutes applause for NHS workers on this free for them day. Josh from the River end
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:10
Once more Jack Brooks opens from the MT end (he was at the River yesterday when he opened) - not sure the logic of this as we'd like the wicket soon - but it must suggest that we are looking to make them bat again surely and are giving Craig the most balls again. Apologies Jack!!st their openers as possible at the start of their second?
Otherwise? Do we think the deficit is too high and are gong to allow them to decrease it? Oh well he's got the wicket 209 all out apologies Jack. Somerset have enforced the follow on.
Otherwise? Do we think the deficit is too high and are gong to allow them to decrease it? Oh well he's got the wicket 209 all out apologies Jack. Somerset have enforced the follow on.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:11
Magnificent ball from Davey.
Home commentators worried as Renshaw rushed off.
Follow on ENFORCED! Thank God!!
Home commentators worried as Renshaw rushed off.
Follow on ENFORCED! Thank God!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:18
Can we *please* do the sensible thing of opening with Cove and Josh this time, Tom!?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:22
Craig was taking his sweater off AS they walked out so I think his message was pretty clear. Josh continuing at the River
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:23
Craig will want to be slightly straighter than in that first over.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:23
Tom gets the openers right second time around.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:27
Warks nearly do a Davies.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:40
Sibley's expansive cover drive to Josh Davey nearly removes his leg stump as he miscalculates it massively!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:44
Terrific bowling from Josh and great catch from Craig.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 11:47
Another tremendous slip catch!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:09
Brooks on. I think that, if we’re going to win this today, then both Jacks and Lewis need to be tighter than they were yesterday.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:11
Have to say, I think Peter T is excellent on the comms.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:25
Brilliant!
Brooks tightens up, dramatically, and then gets the reward as bowling dry helped to produce an abysmal miscalculation from Yates.
Well done, Jack Brooks!
Brooks tightens up, dramatically, and then gets the reward as bowling dry helped to produce an abysmal miscalculation from Yates.
Well done, Jack Brooks!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:28
WTF in this situation you play THAT shot?
Thank you Warwickshire and Mr Yates
Thank you Warwickshire and Mr Yates
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:29
Yesterday: Trego and Marks
Today: Trego and Tresothick
What a treat for all of us!
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Today: Trego and Tresothick
What a treat for all of us!
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:33
Yes Peter T even seems to appreciate Jack B.
Looking good for a 3 day finish.
Looking good for a 3 day finish.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:33
Somerset are as tight as a ducks bits at the moment
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:49
Get the twisty turny man on for a bit. Make em think again just before lunch!!
Worked yesterday
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Worked yesterday
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:50
Haha - Trego saying you wouldn’t even go into a dressing room with Justin Langer in it, having played the shot that Yates played.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 12:58
Another good session.
I think we need another three wickets in the next session, to stay on course to finish this today.
I think we need another three wickets in the next session, to stay on course to finish this today.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:03
Our session 45 for 3
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:26
Sony Baker doing sprints on the pitch this lunchtime. He was lapping the pitch yesterday as well so he's getting there slowly
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:32
Yeah, I believe he was cleared for non cricket rehab. So not bowling yet, so far as I know.
Might, possibly, get back second half of season, I guess.
Has he been bought for the franchise drivel or might we see him in the 50 over again?
Might, possibly, get back second half of season, I guess.
Has he been bought for the franchise drivel or might we see him in the 50 over again?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:41
Nope not franchised but as we were probably planning to bring him in for the RLODC if there are injuries they'll probably steal him if they can or he shows some promise.
They seem to have free reign as part of their 'bung deal' with counties
They seem to have free reign as part of their 'bung deal' with counties
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:43
Brooksy opening from the River after lunch
Davey from the MT - changed ends
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Davey from the MT - changed ends
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:44
Yeah, they can steal whoever they want.
There was some talk that, this year, the ECB might want those not in given Blundred XIs to actually be released for the 50-over stuff, but we’ll see.
There was some talk that, this year, the ECB might want those not in given Blundred XIs to actually be released for the 50-over stuff, but we’ll see.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:47
Well as pointed out earlier this season, we may very well be defending a world title with a side where few of the squad have played any 50 over matches except for their country since the last tournament!!
Certainly many who are probably in contention will not have played Royal London since 2019 if then
Certainly many who are probably in contention will not have played Royal London since 2019 if then
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 13:51
50 up for Warwickshire - still over 200 needed
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 14:12
Jack back on as we 'trundle' a bit into the afternoon. Not a lot happening
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 14:22
Rhodes and Hains 50 partnership
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 14:27
Bit of a brown-nosing from Peter of Gordon Hollins. Yucky.
We need another breakthrough to lift the spirits again, I fancy.
We need another breakthrough to lift the spirits again, I fancy.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 14:35
Commentary at times like this can get as tedious as the stuff going on in the middle - there are only so many topics....
Trigger was spirited in to 'master of ceremony' the Q&A on short notice yesterday afternoon so Gordon will be on his mind. Did he mention the soup?
Trigger was spirited in to 'master of ceremony' the Q&A on short notice yesterday afternoon so Gordon will be on his mind. Did he mention the soup?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 14:42
Gordon was in the box with him, so it was some in-person lavishing of praise.
Soup was, indeed, mentioned.
Soup was, indeed, mentioned.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 14:54
Mr Hollins was of the view that Tom Abell should bring himself on to bowl.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 14:57
Apparently Tom Cooper arrived at Taunton and gave it “the big I am,” in the dressing room, boasting about what he was going to do to County attacks. Don’t think he was PT’s cuppa tea!
That ball from Leachy was, though!
That ball from Leachy was, though!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:03
Don't offer 'no shot' to Jack
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:03
Loved Leachy’s reaction to the wicket. Didn’t even so much as raise an arm. Just nonchalantly ambled down the wicket.
Love the Hain giveaway too!
Love the Hain giveaway too!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:07
Very good team effort today. One wicket each and each bowler has deserved their wicket.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Flyboy (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:09
Well this has been the most enjoyable match of the season so far, always been on top. Great to have Davey back
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:15
I'm not equipped to contribute to the discussion on Somerset first-class grounds, but somebody could tell Trego that Somerset hosted Warwickshire at Millfield School circa 1960 when the Glastonbury ground (Avalon Acres to some of us!) was deemed unfit.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:19
I should like one more before tea.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:30
Told him LoL he now wants to know where Somerset HAVEN'T played
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:33
ONLY Jack Brooks could do that!! Don't release the ball and then get the guy next ball!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:35
A poor shot from Burgess but great for us.
We’ve just ground them down and they haven’t shown the heart or focus to stick it out.
The Brooks celebration the polar opposite of Leachy’s!
But that’s a really good ball, just now, to do for Briggs!
Well done, Brooks!!!
We’ve just ground them down and they haven’t shown the heart or focus to stick it out.
The Brooks celebration the polar opposite of Leachy’s!
But that’s a really good ball, just now, to do for Briggs!
Well done, Brooks!!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:42
An illustration of the popularity of a player is when you have a decent over and all your teammates come and say well done including ones running from the other side of the ground.
Whatever your view of the Brooks extension to the contract, part of the reason is that 'contribution' to team spirit aspect that he undoubtedly brings. Is it enough? Not for me to say but it is there.
Whatever your view of the Brooks extension to the contract, part of the reason is that 'contribution' to team spirit aspect that he undoubtedly brings. Is it enough? Not for me to say but it is there.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:47
He’s obviously very popular in the dressing room.
But it’s “end columns,” that should count.
Peter Trego claimed Brooks “had been a great signing,” but said little about his actual performances and followed the “great signing,” comment with “he’s settled in really well.”
It’s all a bit odd, really.
I don’t consider the move from Yorks to have worked out well for SCCC at all.
However.. this performance, today, has been a marked improvement in terms of accuracy and consistency and he has got his reward. This is how we need JB to bowl, regularly.
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But it’s “end columns,” that should count.
Peter Trego claimed Brooks “had been a great signing,” but said little about his actual performances and followed the “great signing,” comment with “he’s settled in really well.”
It’s all a bit odd, really.
I don’t consider the move from Yorks to have worked out well for SCCC at all.
However.. this performance, today, has been a marked improvement in terms of accuracy and consistency and he has got his reward. This is how we need JB to bowl, regularly.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:51
And a superb Brooks ball to account for McAndrew.
The Aussie should have been forward but… that pitched leg and middle and swung away sharply!
The Aussie should have been forward but… that pitched leg and middle and swung away sharply!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:56
Best Warks shot of the match from Miles!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 15:58
Brooks too good for McAndrew
Certainly wickets sand run rates are a major parts of the equation but its not all that a senior professional brings to the game or the side If you are not taking wickets but your presence gives confidence to those that are then you are contributing.
It shouldn't be the 'Luke Wright' England 'raison d'etre' but there is a place for it
He needs to be tighter but he is taking significant wickets and this is a progressively better performance than his last run out. He's earned his match fee
And as an observation, there aren't that many 37 year old bowlers who would be having throwdowns with the bowling coach during the Tea interval when they have the opposition some 130 runs and 2 wickets away from an innings defeat. You get the idea that he may want to have a go for the five-fer perhaps?
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Certainly wickets sand run rates are a major parts of the equation but its not all that a senior professional brings to the game or the side If you are not taking wickets but your presence gives confidence to those that are then you are contributing.
It shouldn't be the 'Luke Wright' England 'raison d'etre' but there is a place for it
He needs to be tighter but he is taking significant wickets and this is a progressively better performance than his last run out. He's earned his match fee
And as an observation, there aren't that many 37 year old bowlers who would be having throwdowns with the bowling coach during the Tea interval when they have the opposition some 130 runs and 2 wickets away from an innings defeat. You get the idea that he may want to have a go for the five-fer perhaps?
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 16:30
Well that was a decent afternoon.
I switched on the tv to see Warks three down and after about an hour switched off as nothing much was happening.
Fortunately inquisivity kicked in & I switched on again to see Jack & Lewis breakthrough.
Terrific effort from Jack B. , whose enthusiasm for the game certainly isn’t waning with time.
Would love us to wrap this up today.
Grizzers
I switched on the tv to see Warks three down and after about an hour switched off as nothing much was happening.
Fortunately inquisivity kicked in & I switched on again to see Jack & Lewis breakthrough.
Terrific effort from Jack B. , whose enthusiasm for the game certainly isn’t waning with time.
Would love us to wrap this up today.
Grizzers
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 16:42
You are most certainly not on your own there Grizz
The idea of going through to tomorrow and waiting in hope for the weather to allow the end of the game to happen is NOT something most of the staff here are looking forward to.
So they bring Craig back
The idea of going through to tomorrow and waiting in hope for the weather to allow the end of the game to happen is NOT something most of the staff here are looking forward to.
So they bring Craig back
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 16:55
Don’t break OHD’s arm again!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 16:59
Thank you, Jack!!
Totally wiped the floor with the Bears in this one.
Totally wiped the floor with the Bears in this one.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:02
Back to winning ways Warks lose by an innings and 82 runs 23 points plays 2
Not 3 day wicket we batted and bowled well and they simply didn't
Not 3 day wicket we batted and bowled well and they simply didn't
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:02
Now… hopefully we can get PS fit, keep LG and JD fit and then hope Brooks can bowl more like he did today because Cove is unlikely to be available all the time.
Some pride and confidence restored.
And, I assume, off the foot of the table.
Some pride and confidence restored.
And, I assume, off the foot of the table.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:06
Yep, nothing like an over in 3 days wicket, Grockle.
OHD apart, they totally failed to support Rhodes’ decision to field.
And then there was some pretty moderate batting from them in both innings.
Cove and Davey excellent first innings, the rest not so much then everyone came to the party in the follow on.
Renshaw a brilliant, forceful innings. Abell solid. And some good signs, hopefully, for the other two Toms.
Steve needs to sort his batting focus out and the bowling unit as a whole will be aiming to emulate the second innings effort of giving very, very little away.
OHD apart, they totally failed to support Rhodes’ decision to field.
And then there was some pretty moderate batting from them in both innings.
Cove and Davey excellent first innings, the rest not so much then everyone came to the party in the follow on.
Renshaw a brilliant, forceful innings. Abell solid. And some good signs, hopefully, for the other two Toms.
Steve needs to sort his batting focus out and the bowling unit as a whole will be aiming to emulate the second innings effort of giving very, very little away.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:08
I think it’s Bristol next?
We owe them for last season when they fluked a rain-ruined draw from 350 Vs 28/6
We owe them for last season when they fluked a rain-ruined draw from 350 Vs 28/6
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:11
Having handed out a load of criticism recently, I am so desperately relieved to see that performance.
Virtually (no. not completely !) perfect in all respects and such a massive, massive improvement on the last seven Championship games. Must be a big relief to everyone, including yes Messrs AH & JK.
Really hoping that gives us a huge lift & we can carry the positive momentum forwards.
Grizzers
P.S. Hopefully the team can find the lyrics to 'Blackbird' buried somewhere in the dressing room !
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Virtually (no. not completely !) perfect in all respects and such a massive, massive improvement on the last seven Championship games. Must be a big relief to everyone, including yes Messrs AH & JK.
Really hoping that gives us a huge lift & we can carry the positive momentum forwards.
Grizzers
P.S. Hopefully the team can find the lyrics to 'Blackbird' buried somewhere in the dressing room !
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:16
What I find hugely encouraging is that in each game since the first one we have markedly improved upon the previous performance. At this rate we shall be beating Australia by July.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Whome (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:19
It’s been very emotional, we all moan and criticise when things go wrong but only because we love our County so much it sometimes hurts. Some days are diamonds and some are stone, this day was full of diamonds.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:21
Very well put Whome !
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 17:52
Another good thing from this: Josh Davey actually only had to bowl 19 overs in the entire match, so we limited the wear and tear on him.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 18:04
Excellent win, this should give the squad plenty of confidence, but we also need consistency for the rest of the season.
Good to see Sonny Baker having a work out on the pitch during the Lunch interval. Mainly exercises, and run up practise, but with no actual bowling.
He was in the Long Room on Friday, and said he hoped to be available for some cricket in mid summer.
Good to see Sonny Baker having a work out on the pitch during the Lunch interval. Mainly exercises, and run up practise, but with no actual bowling.
He was in the Long Room on Friday, and said he hoped to be available for some cricket in mid summer.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 18:17
Another good thing? Second innings served to get Leachy into some rhythm.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 18:26
But a week off before that as we don't have a gsme next Thursday
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 18:36
Yeah, true.
Hopefully, unless there is some crappy England game in two weeks’ time then Cove will be allowed to play at Bristol as England will hopefully factor in the fact that Cove will have a week off from playing immediately before the Gloucs game.
Hopefully, unless there is some crappy England game in two weeks’ time then Cove will be allowed to play at Bristol as England will hopefully factor in the fact that Cove will have a week off from playing immediately before the Gloucs game.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 18:41
Let’s hope it’s a better pitch than the garbage they are playing Surrey on.
There should be points deducted for producing pitches that give bowlers zero chance/hope.
Ollie Pope fans were doing cartwheels because he actually made a few runs away from the Oval, but I think Gloucs 443/2, Jordan Clark’s second career hundred and a double ton for Jamie Smith put Pope’s 80-odd in its proper perspective!
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There should be points deducted for producing pitches that give bowlers zero chance/hope.
Ollie Pope fans were doing cartwheels because he actually made a few runs away from the Oval, but I think Gloucs 443/2, Jordan Clark’s second career hundred and a double ton for Jamie Smith put Pope’s 80-odd in its proper perspective!
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 19:09
Just catching up. What a great result and as has already been said it's nice to see a progressive improvement in performance.
Agod has obviously never been a dressing room where team spirit can often make a difference. Hopefully Brooks will continue this form.
Agod has obviously never been a dressing room where team spirit can often make a difference. Hopefully Brooks will continue this form.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 19:34
What makes the most difference, Nailsea are runs scored and wickets taken.
And, as Victor said yesterday, in county cricket, the way you take wkts, most of the time (as a team) is to stop the opposition from scoring.
If Brooks can bowl as he did in the second innings, then he can contribute to the team efforts to bowl dry and help himself and his teammates to wickets, as a result.
If he goes round the park for 4-5 an over, as in the first innings both here and at the Oval? Then he’s not really of much use.in winning cricket matches.
With MDL seemingly frozen out, Craig potentially subject to ECB interference and Lewis’s back a potential worry, we may need Jack Brooks to play a number of first team games so let’s hope he bowls - in those games - as he did in the second innings here.
And, as Victor said yesterday, in county cricket, the way you take wkts, most of the time (as a team) is to stop the opposition from scoring.
If Brooks can bowl as he did in the second innings, then he can contribute to the team efforts to bowl dry and help himself and his teammates to wickets, as a result.
If he goes round the park for 4-5 an over, as in the first innings both here and at the Oval? Then he’s not really of much use.in winning cricket matches.
With MDL seemingly frozen out, Craig potentially subject to ECB interference and Lewis’s back a potential worry, we may need Jack Brooks to play a number of first team games so let’s hope he bowls - in those games - as he did in the second innings here.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 20:12
Quote:Whome
... we all moan and criticise when things go wrong ...
You should be aware that some of us don't.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 20:16
Somerset v Warwickshire 3rd day photos.
Third and final day of the match, there is nothing like a win like this to put a smile on peoples faces.
For a while Jack Leach held one end up while wickets were taken from the other end, Sam Hain managing to avoid touching the ball.
Oliver Hannon-Dalby didn't look like he enjoys batting, Craig Overton reminded him that a short ball on the neck can hurt.
Nathan McAndrew trying to hook a short ball from Jack Brooks, he did not connect.
Next two photos, same wicket.
Michael Yates ct Tom Lammonby bld Jack Brooks.
Going for a big hit, skying the ball for a long time, well caught by Tom Lammonby.
All the bowlers were on the mark today, Josh Davey just missing the bat of Alex Davies.
Alex Davies was well caught low down by Craig Overton off the bowling of Josh Davey.
Craig Overton 4 wickets in the match and 4 catches.
Jack Brooks 5 match wickets.
The rest of the bowlers took wickets.
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Third and final day of the match, there is nothing like a win like this to put a smile on peoples faces.
For a while Jack Leach held one end up while wickets were taken from the other end, Sam Hain managing to avoid touching the ball.
Oliver Hannon-Dalby didn't look like he enjoys batting, Craig Overton reminded him that a short ball on the neck can hurt.
Nathan McAndrew trying to hook a short ball from Jack Brooks, he did not connect.
Next two photos, same wicket.
Michael Yates ct Tom Lammonby bld Jack Brooks.
Going for a big hit, skying the ball for a long time, well caught by Tom Lammonby.
All the bowlers were on the mark today, Josh Davey just missing the bat of Alex Davies.
Alex Davies was well caught low down by Craig Overton off the bowling of Josh Davey.
Craig Overton 4 wickets in the match and 4 catches.
Jack Brooks 5 match wickets.
The rest of the bowlers took wickets.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 20:43
Is MdL 'frozen out'? Source?
Do you have specific information on this ECB impending 'interference" in how their contracted player indulges in his cricket?
Where is this medical info on Gregory's back problem for reference? He seemed OK... is the problem also impending?
Thank heaven's we have time to look into these massive issues.
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Do you have specific information on this ECB impending 'interference" in how their contracted player indulges in his cricket?
Where is this medical info on Gregory's back problem for reference? He seemed OK... is the problem also impending?
Thank heaven's we have time to look into these massive issues.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 20:59
Who'd have thought Runs and wickets win crko0icket matches, every day's a school day.
Great photos as always Mike, that one of Overton's catch is astonishing.
Great photos as always Mike, that one of Overton's catch is astonishing.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 21:10
Are those serious questions, Grockle?
Cove isn’t contracted to us. The ECB decide when he plays, not SCCC. If they decide he needs rest? He won’t play. Not rocket science.
Everyone knows LG has had numerous back problems. As recently as last Monday he had a “make or break fitness test.” *You* were all full of “not sure he’ll bowl again,” when he got injured playing for Trent Tripe last year. There’s no reason to suppose his issues have magically gone away for good.
MDL? You’re expecting him to play red ball games are you? I think many are not.
Cove isn’t contracted to us. The ECB decide when he plays, not SCCC. If they decide he needs rest? He won’t play. Not rocket science.
Everyone knows LG has had numerous back problems. As recently as last Monday he had a “make or break fitness test.” *You* were all full of “not sure he’ll bowl again,” when he got injured playing for Trent Tripe last year. There’s no reason to suppose his issues have magically gone away for good.
MDL? You’re expecting him to play red ball games are you? I think many are not.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: That Bloke With The Dog (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 21:36
A big thank you to the Met Office for putting out that forecast for tomorrow, and thus ensuring the follow-on was enforced. It just makes it so much easier for the bowling side when the batsmen have to juggle saving their wickets with scoring runs in the third innings. If you don't enforce the follow-on, you're more or less obliged to ensure that the opposition have one clear purpose in the final innings - not getting out, with run-scoring irrelevant.
Anyway, what a glorious day in the sun it was for an enthusiastic crowd. And well done to the coaching staff, to whom I'd given so much stick. You have to give the management credit for such an effective and relentless effort from the lads.
Anyway, what a glorious day in the sun it was for an enthusiastic crowd. And well done to the coaching staff, to whom I'd given so much stick. You have to give the management credit for such an effective and relentless effort from the lads.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 21:38
Oh so you are just speculating on things that MIGHT happen AG. Sorry you are posting about them as if they were already happening/were going to happen... just checking. Your mixture of fact and possible fact is a bit variable and tenuous sometimes
As I mentioned before this game, when others speculated on Gregory's issues ref his back pre season your reaction was 'not gonna be any kind of problem. It's happened before'. Maybe it will be maybe it won't... all in the future huh?
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As I mentioned before this game, when others speculated on Gregory's issues ref his back pre season your reaction was 'not gonna be any kind of problem. It's happened before'. Maybe it will be maybe it won't... all in the future huh?
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 22:08
Unless you’ve forgotten ECB interference has already happened. Who do you think decided Cove shouldn’t play in Hedge End!?
When I said that I didn’t see why folks should suddenly be saying LG would be finished with bowling, I simply said I didn’t see why that should be so since he’d had similar issues before. I did not say the injury would never again flare up or cause him to miss games.
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When I said that I didn’t see why folks should suddenly be saying LG would be finished with bowling, I simply said I didn’t see why that should be so since he’d had similar issues before. I did not say the injury would never again flare up or cause him to miss games.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 22:22
2 things
Actually they aren't 'interfering'. They can decide what happens. Craig and Jack work for England. Rather they 'allow' them TO play for Somerset... they may be illogical about it but....
Secondly because they DID 'interfere' does not mean they WILL 'interfere'. If something happens once it does not necessarily mean it will happen again exactly when you expect it to to create the maximum disruption to what you want to see go.badly.
Ref Lewis no you are right you didn't say that. You simply patronised those that did suggest that possibility.
Anyway I understand where we are now Cheers
Actually they aren't 'interfering'. They can decide what happens. Craig and Jack work for England. Rather they 'allow' them TO play for Somerset... they may be illogical about it but....
Secondly because they DID 'interfere' does not mean they WILL 'interfere'. If something happens once it does not necessarily mean it will happen again exactly when you expect it to to create the maximum disruption to what you want to see go.badly.
Ref Lewis no you are right you didn't say that. You simply patronised those that did suggest that possibility.
Anyway I understand where we are now Cheers
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 22:51
Who actually are "They" - the people who decide who should or should not be rested? Is this one of Key's roles?
On another cheerier matter... my computer's forecast tells me that it will rain almost without a break in Taunton on Sunday. It would be good to receive a report late in the day from Mike, telling us if that is what actually happened, so that we can be all the more pleased that the SWarwickshire demolition took only three days. No photographic proof will be required - we can take Mike's word for it.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
On another cheerier matter... my computer's forecast tells me that it will rain almost without a break in Taunton on Sunday. It would be good to receive a report late in the day from Mike, telling us if that is what actually happened, so that we can be all the more pleased that the SWarwickshire demolition took only three days. No photographic proof will be required - we can take Mike's word for it.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2022 23:45
It's a good question LoL and not one I think anyone has ever answered.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 00:14
We'll get a much needed dose of rain tonight. Starting 1am until about 2pm.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 07:19
Nah, Grockle. It’s inevitable that - unless they elect to dispense with his services entirely - there will be further CC games this season for which Cove is made unavailable.
The only way that won’t happen is if, at some point this summer, they decide that they are not going to renew Craig’s contract for next year and
, thus, lose interest in controlling him this summer.
Jimmy and Broad returning should, hopefully, reduce the chances of Cove being absent to carry drinks. But - if they want to continue with Cove’s central contract into next year - they will continue to monitor his workload and will intervene anytime they think he needs a rest.
Viz the future of Cove’s ECB deal.. I don’t think the ECB really have a clear post Jimmy and Broad plan. They must have realised, by now, that Woakes cannot be trusted overseas. They know Wood cannot play successive Tests. They know Archer and Stone are brittle. And Robinson seems to have developed fitness issues too. At this point, Craig is very possibly the only guy they have with a strong fitness record.
The only way that won’t happen is if, at some point this summer, they decide that they are not going to renew Craig’s contract for next year and
, thus, lose interest in controlling him this summer.
Jimmy and Broad returning should, hopefully, reduce the chances of Cove being absent to carry drinks. But - if they want to continue with Cove’s central contract into next year - they will continue to monitor his workload and will intervene anytime they think he needs a rest.
Viz the future of Cove’s ECB deal.. I don’t think the ECB really have a clear post Jimmy and Broad plan. They must have realised, by now, that Woakes cannot be trusted overseas. They know Wood cannot play successive Tests. They know Archer and Stone are brittle. And Robinson seems to have developed fitness issues too. At this point, Craig is very possibly the only guy they have with a strong fitness record.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 07:21
Apparently, per the Cricketer, that trap into which Sam Hain stumbled yesterday was Matt Renshaw’s doing. So, together with his forceful innings and excellent catching that caps off a rather excellent match for him!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 07:52
Great to be back at the County Ground yesterday, after the dismal day v Essex a few weeks back! Wholly different atmosphere, especially once Cove, Bants and Renshaw got the Nordic handclap going for Brooks.
I love to watch Renshaw when Somerset are in the field - he’s clearly the clown in the slips alongside the two serious old men at keeper and 1st slip. For those of us who are too old to play any more, it’s great to see youngsters actually enjoying what they’re paid to do.
A grand day out.
I love to watch Renshaw when Somerset are in the field - he’s clearly the clown in the slips alongside the two serious old men at keeper and 1st slip. For those of us who are too old to play any more, it’s great to see youngsters actually enjoying what they’re paid to do.
A grand day out.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 08:07
If you watch the highlights one of the bits I most enjoyed was Hildy. I'm not sure he took one of the slip catches all match but look at his reaction every time they get a wicket, he is celebrating as much as Craig & Renshaw do.
Clearly still loves it & for a quiet, reserved individual the buzz of his team taking wickets still gets him going.
He has plenty of knockers on here but we will be a poorer team when he does chose to call it a day.
Our classiest batsmen by a mile. Understated, can play all types of bowling & just accumulates quietly.
His 80 odd at Ageas was the only score of note.
With a bit more luck he will give us many more contributions this season too 💪
Clearly still loves it & for a quiet, reserved individual the buzz of his team taking wickets still gets him going.
He has plenty of knockers on here but we will be a poorer team when he does chose to call it a day.
Our classiest batsmen by a mile. Understated, can play all types of bowling & just accumulates quietly.
His 80 odd at Ageas was the only score of note.
With a bit more luck he will give us many more contributions this season too 💪
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 08:36
No apprently about it, lifted directly from Tom A's after match interview. Renshaw suggested it to his Captain.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 09:16
I agree wsm - I thought one of the biggest cheers of the day was late on, when Hildreth was at square leg with JL bowling - he merely fielded a very simple shot - almost like the crowd were reminded he was there.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 09:34
I had the pleasure yesterday of sitting with Craig Overton's dad for a while, he came to see me, he asked where the rest of my group was, I said scattered around the ground. (we are normally sit on Gimblett's Hill)
He tried to get a replay on the live stream of one of Craig's catches, it was when Sam Hain was caught by Craig I think, like my photo Craig did not appear in my photo (out of shot) or on the live stream.
He tried to get a replay on the live stream of one of Craig's catches, it was when Sam Hain was caught by Craig I think, like my photo Craig did not appear in my photo (out of shot) or on the live stream.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 09:40
Good day for NOT trying to get a result in a 4 day game on the last one. Weather is suggesting it would have been an anxious and probably unsuccessful wait for some play today!! Phew!!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 09:47
So accurate was Renshaw’s placement of Cove that Cove didn’t have to move even an inch to either side.
Good job he has bucket hands, though, for that ball came at quite some rate of knots.
Good job he has bucket hands, though, for that ball came at quite some rate of knots.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 09:48
Yes, Grockle. And poor weather elsewhere should do us a favour by preventing results in some of the other games.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 16:11
Very good non cliche interview with Jack Brooks after the game... a real one full of honesty.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 17:01
Thanks for putting us onto that interview, Grockle. I tend not to bother clicking on post-match interviews with players. As you imply they are so often cliché-ridden, but the Ferret's was anything but. This seemed like the 'real' man talking to us.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 17:05
Yes a few things to consider when dishing out criticism, some very honest thoughts.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 17:37
Did you notice the familiar football - cricket allegiance pattern on the part of the “tweeter,” who tweeted that interview, Bobstan?
It’s uncanny how many of us there are.
It’s uncanny how many of us there are.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Owain Glyndwr (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 17:41
Magnificent performance from everyone, we really are back on track. Might have a tenner on us winning the Championship.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 17:59
Indeed, AG. 4 - 0 by the way.
Now don't go overboard, BJ.
Now don't go overboard, BJ.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 18:10
Today's first division results did us little harm, though we are only eighth in the table. No side has more than our ten bowling points (Hants also have ten), but only two sides, Essex and Northants, have fewer than our mere seven batting points.
Sadly, we can have no impact of the next round of matches starting on Thursday.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Sadly, we can have no impact of the next round of matches starting on Thursday.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 19:11
Yes. The table is still sure to make unpalatable reading by the end of the next round of matches, I’m afraid.
It was rather strange to hear Jack Brooks dismiss the end of last season as something that was really only a consideration for our opponents, the media and (something else which I don’t remember). And I think the magnitude of our team’s celebrations was more congruent with a team that felt as though it had lost 7 straight games than one that had somehow dismissed last season and so was only feeling that they had lost three in a row (and one of those three with a hopelessly depleted side).
The optimistic way of looking at things is, I suppose, to try and dismiss the end of last season, to definitely dismiss Hants as the product of an absurd level of depletion and then to focus on the Essex loss having been very narrow and to take the Surrey game on the basis of the formal result - only a 3 wicket loss - even though 3 wickets were taken when the contest was all but over.
To be realistic, though, while it is entirely realistic to dismiss the Hants game and neither the Essex nor Surrey results were that bad, individually, I don’t consider it to be at all realistic to simply dismiss the last stanza of last season. We played those 4 games without Overton and Gregory .. and it is very likely that there will be other games this season where we will be without those two again.
We gave a very good performance Vs Warks with a near full-strength side (missing only Peter) but the league position remains precarious and it is imperative that we build on this Warks win by hammering fellow strugglers, Gloucs and - more specifically - it is imperative that we win the games when at or near full strength because it’s very difficult to feel confident in our prospects when there is more than minor depletion in our ranks. Hopefully, Cove will be allowed to play the next two, and we will win both.
It was rather strange to hear Jack Brooks dismiss the end of last season as something that was really only a consideration for our opponents, the media and (something else which I don’t remember). And I think the magnitude of our team’s celebrations was more congruent with a team that felt as though it had lost 7 straight games than one that had somehow dismissed last season and so was only feeling that they had lost three in a row (and one of those three with a hopelessly depleted side).
The optimistic way of looking at things is, I suppose, to try and dismiss the end of last season, to definitely dismiss Hants as the product of an absurd level of depletion and then to focus on the Essex loss having been very narrow and to take the Surrey game on the basis of the formal result - only a 3 wicket loss - even though 3 wickets were taken when the contest was all but over.
To be realistic, though, while it is entirely realistic to dismiss the Hants game and neither the Essex nor Surrey results were that bad, individually, I don’t consider it to be at all realistic to simply dismiss the last stanza of last season. We played those 4 games without Overton and Gregory .. and it is very likely that there will be other games this season where we will be without those two again.
We gave a very good performance Vs Warks with a near full-strength side (missing only Peter) but the league position remains precarious and it is imperative that we build on this Warks win by hammering fellow strugglers, Gloucs and - more specifically - it is imperative that we win the games when at or near full strength because it’s very difficult to feel confident in our prospects when there is more than minor depletion in our ranks. Hopefully, Cove will be allowed to play the next two, and we will win both.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 19:19
Ref your second paragraph. He didn't
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 19:21
He did.
Anthony “It must be such a relief after losing 7 in a row?” (Or words to that effect)
Jack “yeah, we haven’t really gone back to last year. That’s for the media and opponents chirping up about it.”
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Anthony “It must be such a relief after losing 7 in a row?” (Or words to that effect)
Jack “yeah, we haven’t really gone back to last year. That’s for the media and opponents chirping up about it.”
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 19:33
As to what Jack B had to say about himself.
He basically said that, during his career he’s often had somewhat expensive spells but then often kind of countered that with wicket-taking spells and that it’s the latter that has been lacking in his time at SCCC, perhaps because he’s not been fit etc.
I hope, though, that Jason Kerr continues to impress on him that this isn’t really a trade-off that we ideally want even if he does take wickets. No.. we want the whole attack operating as it did yesterday - making run-scoring like getting blood out of a stone. Because, if you’ve got 3 of 4 seamers bowling accurately and then Brooks comes on and offers tempting deliveries through straining for a wicket (be it full, or wide or short) then Brooks might get a wicket or two doing that (or the tempter might be hit to the boundary) but when Jack Brooks also joins the accuracy party - as he did yesterday - then not only is Jack himself likely to pick up wickets through lack of scoring pressure exerted (as with the Yates howler yesterday) but he also helps our other seamers to get wickets.. they all help each other when they operate like that!
He basically said that, during his career he’s often had somewhat expensive spells but then often kind of countered that with wicket-taking spells and that it’s the latter that has been lacking in his time at SCCC, perhaps because he’s not been fit etc.
I hope, though, that Jason Kerr continues to impress on him that this isn’t really a trade-off that we ideally want even if he does take wickets. No.. we want the whole attack operating as it did yesterday - making run-scoring like getting blood out of a stone. Because, if you’ve got 3 of 4 seamers bowling accurately and then Brooks comes on and offers tempting deliveries through straining for a wicket (be it full, or wide or short) then Brooks might get a wicket or two doing that (or the tempter might be hit to the boundary) but when Jack Brooks also joins the accuracy party - as he did yesterday - then not only is Jack himself likely to pick up wickets through lack of scoring pressure exerted (as with the Yates howler yesterday) but he also helps our other seamers to get wickets.. they all help each other when they operate like that!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 19:47
Our top 3 batters in the averages, Abell / Renshaw / Banton, are firing on all cylinders. Renshaw & Lammonby seeing off the new ball allows Abell and Banton to profit. Hildreth at 5 than carries on. This ensures we make the big first innings score that seems more common this season.
Against Hants and Essex we didn't have that luxury, at the Oval we fell a few runs short in the first innings but came close. It would look like we've turned the corner now and ditched the losing streak. Providing we also have most of our first choice bowlers, unlike the first Hants game we should feel pretty confident after the week off
Against Hants and Essex we didn't have that luxury, at the Oval we fell a few runs short in the first innings but came close. It would look like we've turned the corner now and ditched the losing streak. Providing we also have most of our first choice bowlers, unlike the first Hants game we should feel pretty confident after the week off
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 20:18
Your interpretation is not that AG. It's an opinion but not what Jack said from the interview I watched So opinions differ yours does from any balanced reality and others can decide for themselves. You wrote a screed analysing 1 throwaway sentence.
Please don't waste your time writing more about how you listened to it was the only way to interpret it.
it's a waste of tapping time if you are doing it to make me realise the error of my interpretation.
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Please don't waste your time writing more about how you listened to it was the only way to interpret it.
it's a waste of tapping time if you are doing it to make me realise the error of my interpretation.
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Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 21:19
Yeah, La, La, La, it’s all about having most/all of our first-choice bowlers available.
We must make sure we win the vast majority of our games when that is the case.
We must make sure we win the vast majority of our games when that is the case.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 22:21
Day 4 was live!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 23:00
Not as dramatic as Bristol, which had a lake where the ground once was!
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 23:04
The Warks take on the game was that par for that pitch was only 300, meaning that we were more than 50% over par.
Some good coach speak from Mark Robinson:
“It wasn’t lack of effort, it was that our skill acquisition isn’t where we need it to be.”
Some good coach speak from Mark Robinson:
“It wasn’t lack of effort, it was that our skill acquisition isn’t where we need it to be.”
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2022 23:07
1,700 people have watched that !
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: ColinNo11 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2022 12:14
It appears that people will watch almost anything streaming on the internet. Cats - and, currently, tractors - appear particularly popular. Perhaps, therefore, those watching were doing so in hopes of getting a glimpse of Brian or of the ground staff with their machinery?
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2022 13:14
People like to see grass grow.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2022 14:43
I suspect the total figure displayed was across the match or, perhaps, was not updated from the previous day’s viewership figures.
Re: Warwickshire as we move on
Posted by: That Bloke With The Dog (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2022 22:47
Some good sledging material there for the return fixture.
"Oi! Sibley! Your skill acquisition is not where you need it to be."
"At least I've acquired the broadest skill set in my own family, Overton."
"Oi! Sibley! Your skill acquisition is not where you need it to be."
"At least I've acquired the broadest skill set in my own family, Overton."
Re: Warwickshire Day 3 - Pure Theatre
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2022 14:43
And now the report on the first day.
Renshaw's century and a day of glorious Somerset batting.
A day to gladden the Somerset heart
Link:
[farmerwhite.co.uk]
And the second day:
Somerset take control
Link: [farmerwhite.co.uk]
Farmer
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Renshaw's century and a day of glorious Somerset batting.
A day to gladden the Somerset heart
Link:
[farmerwhite.co.uk]
And the second day:
Somerset take control
Link: [farmerwhite.co.uk]
Farmer
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