Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
By Wasim
May 15 2011
Steven Taylor was awarded Man of The Match for his performance against Chelsea this afternoon by Tyne-Talk's resident player rater Wasim4nufc. Fabricio Coloccini and Jose Enrique also got high scores. Read on to see how the rest of the team faired...
Player Ratings
Tim Krul (6.5) - Had a good game bar one mistake. The problem is though that, that mistake led to their second goal. He came for something he couldn't reach and the ball ended up in the net. You do feel sorry for keepers sometimes.
Danny Simpson (7) - Did his job for the most part. Showed some good touches and can't be blamed for any of their goals. Does need some competition though.
Steven Taylor (8.5) - I thought he was outstanding and fully deserved getting the late equaliser. Won a lot in the air, read the game well and showed many today why he was so highly rated by many before losing his way a bit over the last 2 years.
Fabricio Coloccini (8) - Another player who played well today. Despite allowing Ivanovic to win the header in the build up to their first goal, he did not allow Chelsea to have too many opportunities after that and his partnership with Taylor was impressive.
Jose Enrique (8) - Came close to being my man of the match as he gave a very good performance today. Many question whether he'll be with us next season but he played very well. Won many challenges, went forward quite a bit and linked up fairly well with young Ferguson. He will definitely be missed should he choose to leave.
Peter Lovenkrands (6.5) - Played in an unfamiliar role but worked very hard and made some good runs. Can't say he stood out but he was involved in getting us the free kick which led to our first goal and he certainly contributed to us getting a point.
Joey Barton (7.5) - Despite giving the ball away quite a bit today, he was very committed and got stuck in, which we needed since Tiote wasn't there. Good captains performance probably describes his performance best.
Ryan Taylor (6.5) - For someone filling in, he did reasonably well. He broke up a few of Chelsea's attacks and set up both goals. One being from a rather poor free kick whilst the other was from a good corner.
Shane Ferguson (7.5) - Another promising performance from him. Linked up nicely with Enrique and went forward with real enthusiasm. Went off with an injury but not before putting in a solid shift.
Jonas Gutierrez (7.5) - For someone who's played in all our league games this season he showed little signs of fatigue. He worked hard and scored our first goal, even if he knew very little thereof. Has had some good form of late so its nice that he scored, no matter how fortuitous it was.
Shola Ameobi (6) - Today was another mixed bag from Shola. Did some good things but some awful things too. I'd start Ranger in the next game if it were up to me.
Danny Simpson (7) - Did his job for the most part. Showed some good touches and can't be blamed for any of their goals. Does need some competition though.
Steven Taylor (8.5) - I thought he was outstanding and fully deserved getting the late equaliser. Won a lot in the air, read the game well and showed many today why he was so highly rated by many before losing his way a bit over the last 2 years.
Fabricio Coloccini (8) - Another player who played well today. Despite allowing Ivanovic to win the header in the build up to their first goal, he did not allow Chelsea to have too many opportunities after that and his partnership with Taylor was impressive.
Jose Enrique (8) - Came close to being my man of the match as he gave a very good performance today. Many question whether he'll be with us next season but he played very well. Won many challenges, went forward quite a bit and linked up fairly well with young Ferguson. He will definitely be missed should he choose to leave.
Peter Lovenkrands (6.5) - Played in an unfamiliar role but worked very hard and made some good runs. Can't say he stood out but he was involved in getting us the free kick which led to our first goal and he certainly contributed to us getting a point.
Joey Barton (7.5) - Despite giving the ball away quite a bit today, he was very committed and got stuck in, which we needed since Tiote wasn't there. Good captains performance probably describes his performance best.
Ryan Taylor (6.5) - For someone filling in, he did reasonably well. He broke up a few of Chelsea's attacks and set up both goals. One being from a rather poor free kick whilst the other was from a good corner.
Shane Ferguson (7.5) - Another promising performance from him. Linked up nicely with Enrique and went forward with real enthusiasm. Went off with an injury but not before putting in a solid shift.
Jonas Gutierrez (7.5) - For someone who's played in all our league games this season he showed little signs of fatigue. He worked hard and scored our first goal, even if he knew very little thereof. Has had some good form of late so its nice that he scored, no matter how fortuitous it was.
Shola Ameobi (6) - Today was another mixed bag from Shola. Did some good things but some awful things too. I'd start Ranger in the next game if it were up to me.
Substitutes
Kazenga Lua Lua (6.5) - Failed to have a big impact but did do well on one occasion when he took on Ivanovic.
Nile Ranger (7) - Won a superb header to assist the late equaliser. Perhaps deserves a start next week.
Sammy Ameobi (7.5) - I was very impressed with the younger Ameobi. Certainly showed no fear and put himself about in the few minutes he was on for.
Man of the Match - Steven Taylor
Nile Ranger (7) - Won a superb header to assist the late equaliser. Perhaps deserves a start next week.
Sammy Ameobi (7.5) - I was very impressed with the younger Ameobi. Certainly showed no fear and put himself about in the few minutes he was on for.
Man of the Match - Steven Taylor

Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
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Date: 15/05/2011 18:23
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Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: Biffins Bridge (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 00:44
Fair ratings mate. Thought the defence was class and Steven Taylor did have a good game. Ive been a critic but fair is fair. Keep it up lads and the togetherness was there for all to see.
Jose was class but you wonder if its playing for a move. The young lads really impressed.
Jose was class but you wonder if its playing for a move. The young lads really impressed.
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: wasim4nufc (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 07:14
Yeah it was great to see the real togetherness and commitment from all the boys. Long may that continue.
Regarding Jose, I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. It's difficult for him because if he plays poorly people will say his mind is not here whilst if he has a good game people will say his playing for a move. I like the lad and really hope he signs a new contract.

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Regarding Jose, I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. It's difficult for him because if he plays poorly people will say his mind is not here whilst if he has a good game people will say his playing for a move. I like the lad and really hope he signs a new contract.

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Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: mentalman (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 09:01
Taylor had a good game, hopefully he'll have a good preseason and start showing why he's so highly regarded consistently, if he can do this then we have 2 central defenders who can get us goals and i cant remember the last time we were in that position
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: tunyc (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 16:10
S. Taylor had a strong game, for sure. He needs to improve his distribution, however, and he's still overconfident on the ball. Gutierrez was a workhorse as always and Ferguson impressed. Coloccini again was outstanding for 89:55, but for 5 seconds of madness conceded a goal. Krul's mistake makes me wonder if he'll ever be a value add as a top-flight starter. There's no way he's getting to that ball and he has to know it. Most of Taylor's FKs were poor.
These games are all about evaluating for next season-the result, in truth, doesn't really mean that much. What was very good was that we were able to keep the ball for spells without either Tiote or Nolan. That's a very good sign.
These games are all about evaluating for next season-the result, in truth, doesn't really mean that much. What was very good was that we were able to keep the ball for spells without either Tiote or Nolan. That's a very good sign.
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: mentalman (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 16:18
Krul is still learning and one of the things that he needs to learn is when to come and when not to but this will come with time and with playing more! Having said that you still see top keepers doing that sort of thing
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: wasim4nufc (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 17:11
Krul definitely impressed me in this match. Apart from that mistake he punched well, came off his line quickly and commanded his area much more than Harper does. Let's just hope he keeps learning for he seems to have from the beginning of the season to where he's at now. Glad he was picked for the Dutch Senior squad for the first time for that will boost his confidence too.

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Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: tunyc (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 19:55
I know I'm hard on Krul, but one mistake a game is all it takes to sour me on a keeper's performance. Consistency and mental toughness are absolutely required. If it weren't for Gomes' handful of mistakes this season, Spurs would be in the CL. I'd really like to get a good look at Forster.
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: Andrew The Mag (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 21:28
That is one mistake against the ex champions of england. Forster is good but who is better? someone doing a good job against anelka, torres and drogba or who can name st mirrens/kilmarnock/dundee's strikeforce ?
Really for me it is a no brainer. Krul all day long for me over Forster, yes keep Forster as a very good back up. Name Harper GK coach next season imo.
Really for me it is a no brainer. Krul all day long for me over Forster, yes keep Forster as a very good back up. Name Harper GK coach next season imo.
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: waffles (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 21:36
With regards to trying to punch the ball that Alex headed in, Krul was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. It was a near perfect free-kick to the back post to an unmarked center back who put a powerful header into the far post upper 90. Did krul make it easier for Alex? Probably. Was Krul going to stop that even if he stayed in the 6-yard box? Likely not, as he would have been strafing towards the near post. I can't see Krul getting a hand on that. His flaw didn't gift them the goal, it just moved the fault from the marker to the keeper.
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: tunyc (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 22:05
He made it very easy. By the time the ball got to Alex, he had the entire unattended goal to aim for. Look, I'm not finally judging him based on one thing but he's 23 and at this point I do expect to see his decision making improve.
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: i! (IP Logged)
Date: 16/05/2011 22:52
Because he's got bags of Premier League experience hasn't he? Goalkeepers tend to develop a lot later than outfield players do, hence why they often still turn out when they're in their forties. Krul is nowhere near the finished article, neither is Forster.
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Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: TOONTILLIDIE (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2011 08:17
Krul and Forster are both young so whoever gets the nod for the number 1 spot, and that is saying that Harper won't be.
Keepers always get better with age and you normally don't see the best in them until they get 30, obviously with the exception of Hart over at City

Keepers always get better with age and you normally don't see the best in them until they get 30, obviously with the exception of Hart over at City
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: mentalman (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2011 15:55
there's a joke going round scotland saying it wouldn't matter if someone had sent Foster a letter bomb, he wouldn't come out to collect it!
Foster doesn't come off his line and he's not particularly agile when on it, he's a useful shot stopper but thats about it at the minute, he doesn't come off the line to put pressure on the attacker, his positioning isn't great and he has a real problem with shots across him and also shots coming at him from angles and not straight at him!
He has still got a lot to learn and needs to do it at a level higher than the SPL!
He's more or less saying he wants to leave if he's not guaranteed first team football
He could do with atleast 1 more season in the championship and then we can see what he's like, personally the way he's going on i'd cash in on him!
Foster doesn't come off his line and he's not particularly agile when on it, he's a useful shot stopper but thats about it at the minute, he doesn't come off the line to put pressure on the attacker, his positioning isn't great and he has a real problem with shots across him and also shots coming at him from angles and not straight at him!
He has still got a lot to learn and needs to do it at a level higher than the SPL!
He's more or less saying he wants to leave if he's not guaranteed first team football
He could do with atleast 1 more season in the championship and then we can see what he's like, personally the way he's going on i'd cash in on him!
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: tunyc (IP Logged)
Date: 17/05/2011 16:29
I want to see what he can do. He's got more first-team experience than Krul, was voted player of the season in League 1 and just got done helping Celtic set a team record for clean sheets. I think it would be foolish to sell him for a pittance without knowing what he can offer the first team. Harper is not the long- or even medium-term solution in goal and I prefer to have more than one iron in the fire.
Re: Player Ratings v Chelsea (A)
Posted by: TOONTILLIDIE (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2011 11:15
Fully agree, how much would we get for him, rumours we 2 million that is s@d all for a young keeper. Harper isn't the answer long term and I think we need to make the decision one way of another this summer, as if not Forster will want to leave and I don't think he wants another loan deal. Make all 3 fight for the position in pre season and I can see Krul or Forster being No.1

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