The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish


By Battering Ram Winger
November 3 2009

Well, a draw of all things! Here you go...

GOOD -

1). Points on the board -

Given the way LI have been playing and the team we put out, coupled with their habit of beating us, I'd say a draw was a decent result, especially as I was resigned to a bonus point loss when Hewat put them 9-6 up with not much left to go.

2). Clegg -

Looks a real prospect. Obviously much work to do, but slotting that last minute penalty showed guts.

3). Defence -

The multi-coloured wall looks like it's starting to stand firm again - with some caution. Had Tagietc. not gone off injured I suspect LI might well have won - our blitz on their 10/12 channel was in defiance of how we know LI like to play, using wide moves and miss passes to get their wingers in space. Strettle hauled him down in a scramble and a number of times we were running backwards hard to try and stop them as they simply bypassed our banana defence.

4). The Quins' Head is back -

OK, so it's not quite finished and I suspect we'll be getting a call from the RFU asking for part of their Scrum Bar back, but the Witchfinder was very nice and it's great to see it up and running.

5). A couple of fans -

Firstly, the old fella berating the stewards by the Members' Bar about the continued presence of the Zizan Brooke Memorial Bucket in the gents and secondly, the chap sat in front of me, who congratulated me both at half and full time on my commentary and refereeing skills.

6). The atmosphere -

Plenty of chanting from both sides, although where I was sat in the West Stand we rather descended into bemused despair as the match progressed (see below). No doubt it was a morgue, though. I must also confess I miss the craptactular half time entertainment of Rugball.

BAD -

1). The Scrum -

Really shoved all over the place, with a lack of urgency at 8 & ( to get the ball out when it was going wrong. We even got shoved off it.

2). If it was a dive, Mike Brown's dive -

We have enough sly fouls in rugby, I do not want this pathetic habit imported from football, thank you very much.

3). Generally quality of the whole game -

The way both teams played, you would have thought there was a howling gale and the rain was coming down sideways, rather than a pleasant evening suited to free flowing rugby. Knock ons, fumbles, misplaced passes, offloads to no one or the wrong shirt and such general dimwitted numbskullery as I haven't seen for some time. A better advert for suspending the GP during the Test windows you won't see. As stated above, at times it was descending into high farce it was so bad. In the end, the draw was probably the right result as no team deserved to win and neither looked capable of scoring a try.

However, I am reasonably happy with the way things went. And it was certainly a whole lot better than the GP Playoffs..!

The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish
Posted by: ComeAllWithin.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2009 12:56

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Re: The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish
Posted by: The Prof (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2009 12:58

As has been mentioned on other threads, I think we struggled in the scrum for the first 15-20 mins but after that it looked solid. And LI do have a powerful front 5 so I'm pretty happy with the way the scrum went.

I would like to have seen the ref being a bit sharper on some of the feeding and the LI scrum tried to walk it around a couple of times too

Re: The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2009 13:10

I don't know if you saw it, but at one point in the first half the LI scrum half actually put the ball under the 2nd row's feet!

Re: The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish
Posted by: The Prof (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2009 13:13

Yep, I think if Brian Moore had seen it he might have exploded!!

Re: The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish
Posted by: mentat (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2009 13:22

Several times on the reflink I heard him say something like 'straight down the middle now' at the scrums, and saw the ball put into the second row.

I see no point in saying something like that if they aren't going to do anything anyway!

Re: The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish
Posted by: rodders1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/11/2009 14:18

Fundamental interpretations of the laws have been eased ond loosened for the sake of the new audience to keep the game flowing-

1. A pass Forward of Straight does not exist because a forward pass is OK if the ref thinks it makes for a good spectacle
2. A straight throw at the line is an accident
3. A straight put in at the scrum never happens
4. A tackle is not a tackle - it is a hit
5. Clearing out is justification for tackling a player without the ball

If these laws were correctly applied in todays game, there would be nothing to watch

on on quins

Re: The Good & The Bad: Quins v London Irish
Posted by: BatQuin (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2009 16:30

I think Brian Moore was spot on about 'new' audiences! You do NOT change the game just to attract new people or appease those who find they can't follow what is going on. You make sure they understand it and then they will appreciate it.

I agree with mentat about blathering on about certain things but doing b&gger all about it.

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