Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report


By Bill Ford-Smith
May 11 2010

Bill Ford-Smith held a merchandising forum with Quinssa members and users of the CAW site to discuss the future of Quins' merchandising and to answer some questions, here is his report.

Webpage:
some issues were raised regarding the webpage and its operation, specifically many people found it slow to load. Some discussion indicated that it might be due to various companies’ security systems as most people seemed to report minimal trouble from home (and that included using some relatively elderly hardware). Much of this (and one or two other points) related to the main webpage, not just as the Online Store. This has been reported internally and we shall make further enquiries to see what can be done.

Replica Socks:
it was established that the current version of the Replica Sock is more or less an exact clone of the KooGa Playing Sock, but without the KooGa logo; there had been some modest confusion on this point. It was requested that we do larger sizes (currently, we top out at a UK11); this will be investigated.

Replicas:
there was a certain amount of discussion on the subject of Replicas. There were several areas under discussion:

Retro:
a version of the Retro was requested with a more old-school sleeve design, rather than the Raglan pattern used for the last few seasons. The main Retro will remain with a Raglan sleeve, as they are more commercial (=sell better); this is probably due to them fitting a wider range of body types – a Raglan sleeve looks good on any body shape, whilst the more traditional sleeve looks relatively poor on anyone whose shoulders are smaller than their waist.

That said, we have been looking into doing an ‘Uber Retro’ which ticks all the boxes beloved of traditionalists; the project currently is less likely to happen for the new season than it was previously: this type of design works out horribly expensive and in times of recession such products tend not to sell well; to make matters worse, cotton prices appear to be strongly on the increase at the moment. The Uber Retro is still in the pipeline though and we’ll do one when it’s judged sensible to do so.

Program Binder:
something to keep old programs in was requested (hard cover); this will be looked into.

Sizing:
this was raised as a perennial problem. The issue here is consistency; two different products of notionally the same size can be significantly different in terms of actual dimensions. To a degree, we’re always going to struggle (until we get a lot bigger and have significantly more buying power): different suppliers tend to have different ideas regarding how big a given size should be (it can also vary hugely depending on intended end use/target consumer e.g. Retro sizes versus Replica). We’re continuing to try and improve things though and this season’s range is better than last year’s and next season’s will be further improved (barring catastrophe).

Navy Jumpers:
we get occasional, but persistent requests for a navy jumper with a whopping full-colour Harlequin on the left chest, as worn. We have a merino (very warm and soft wool) one in stock this season, although it has a crew-neck and a relatively understated, whilst still full-colour, Harlequin on the chest. This specific product area does illustrate reasonably well one of the permanent challenges we face with merchandise:

There is finite space in the shops and store-rooms (even with the new Shop 3); this means that we can only fit a limited number of products in the range each season; if we ranged everything we ever got asked for, something about the size of a moderate shopping mall would be needed to fit it all in! So, we have to make ranging decisions: what goes in the range and what doesn’t (I’m currently buying-in AW2010, i.e. next season, and currently have about three times as many options as I can possible buy!). The objective of the merchandise range is simple: to make as much money to help fund Harlequins rugby as possible, so we have to pick the things that are judged most likely to achieve that aim. It’s desperately unromantic, but we have to be pragmatic.

At the moment, in the sector of warmwear, hoodies are massively more popular than jumpers and, within jumpers, crew-necks tend to be more commercial. As a result, the range contains several hoodies of various designs and only one jumper (of the design judged most likely to sell). Incidentally, we judge popularity and suchlike on the basis of hard numbers (I spend a worrying amount of time in front of databases and spreadsheets), rather than who makes the most noise

To offer some hope to the v-neck jumper fiends (and anyone else whose desired minority product is not currently ranged): the popularity of clothing types varies hugely as time passes and we react to these changes. It is likely that jumpers will come more into vogue again in the future at some point and, at that time, I fully expect to be fielding enquiries along the lines of “what happened to all the hoodies? We liked those…” from the people who miss them!

Training Wear:
it was asked why we don’t range this sort of thing i.e. training tops and suchlike that are issued to the players. Normally we do (north of 1,500 pieces last season)! We didn’t this year because the lead-times are shorter: it was obvious KooGa would struggle to provide us with stock by the time we would place orders, so we spent the money on other products. There will probably be some training wear in the range for AW2010, although it won’t be absolutely everything the players are issued with (it’s almost impossible to put a decent Harlequin on a waterproof jacket without making it leak, for example, unless you do it at source).

Quartered Jacket:
this will probably happen this year. We’re about to go to the sample stage and, if all goes well, it should go ahead. Selling price will be £60 and it will be a properly waterproof shell jacket in the full six colours (layout of panels essentially the same as the long-sleeved Retro; you will be delighted to read that the sleeves will emphatically be Raglan – definitely the best design on a waterproof). You lot better like them – we have to order 2,000!

Boring Polos:
we get regular requests for boring polos i.e. plain block colours with just a Harlequin embroidered on the chest. These will be back for AW2010, although the exact form is tbc.

Putting the word ‘Harlequins’ under the Harlequin logo on more product.
The reason we don’t is the three brand schemes:

Having stuff that both sets of fans might buy allows us to produce a larger range than we could otherwise.

Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
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Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010
Posted by: The Prof (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2010 15:38

Many thanks to BFS for writing the forum up and also for answering questions from this thread - [www.rugbynetwork.net]

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: SASSIE (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2010 16:43

I am one of the persistent requesters for a navy blue 'V' neck jumper with the full colour Harlequin. The shop used to do 'V' neck jumpers in an assortment of colours. [Grey, beige, green, magenta and ~ of course ~ navy] and they sold out fast. I have had to go elsewhere to buy a navy 'V' neck and sew on my own coloured Harlequin. But, I would still buy one if it were available in the Quins Shop/s.

In regard to the quartered jacket, to successfully sell 2,000 it needs a retractable hood in the collar. I need a new jacket, but it must (a) have a hood rolled up in the collar and (b) be warm ~ padded.

Also I have for many years been suggesting that a long silk (or nylon if you must!) scarf in full Harlequin-member colours be made available for the women members. But I don't expect that to be available in the near future ! [But Duchon (please forgive spelling!) make super ties and I have always hoped that they would make long neck scarves for the women.]

I this is of interest.

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: Clock1989 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2010 17:08

Thanks for that.Love the training gear.
Picked up a Kooga Blue round neck with 'Quins' on the back the other year & a fleece top.Willbe keeping my eye out in the Autumn.

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: DOK. (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2010 19:12

OK - I'll buy the quartered jacket so you only have 1,999 to sell but can I have mine with traditional sleeves please? (Just ask Kooga if they can do you a sample and I'll buy it!). Oh OK, I'll buy the one with the raglan sleeves - but it's under protest, mind!

And I don't care if it has a hood. Those of us who wear glasses find a baseball cap a much better option in the rain.

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: twickenham yeti (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2010 19:43

BFS, Please see the blazer thread. Can you stock full colour harlequin blazer badges for us who have not had the privilege of having played for the Club, but want something for the breast pocket. The fact that the blazers come without the emblem put me and others off. I do appreciate you (the shop) do not stock the blazers, but they do add something to match day.

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: Rugby101 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2010 20:08

I see my request for Harlequin's quartered jam donuts was ignored!!

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: quarters (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2010 08:22

'Raglans out' I say.

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2010 09:27

Raglans suck. Rubbish. Keep them for baseball and T-shirts. But hey,. they're "commercial" and we wouldn't want to offend the commercial sensibilities of the club by sticking to quaint old ways, would be.

As for those of you with waists bigger than your shoulders, eat less or complain about your freakish parents handing down an odd shaped genetic template!

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2010 09:46

Quote:
a Raglan sleeve looks good on any body shape, whilst the more traditional sleeve looks relatively poor on anyone whose shoulders are smaller than their waist.

Like a Space Hopper, for instance.

BB

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: T-Bone (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2010 10:55

cheers bfs and those who attended. glad to hear there will be more polo shirts - even if it does apparently make me boring!

bit worried about a "rather exciting" away shirt. hope we're not going down the bath route of copying, badly, the stade design. admittedly if i don't like it i don't have to buy it, but i probably will anyway, as i'm a mug

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: Mr_B (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2010 10:58

Did they mention anything about Fleeces, we used to do a nice range but haven't had much choice or in fact any of them at all the last season or so.

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2010 13:16

Quote:
T-Bone
bit worried about a "rather exciting" away shirt. hope we're not going down the bath route of copying, badly, the stade design. admittedly if i don't like it i don't have to buy it, but i probably will anyway, as i'm a mug

I am practising my murderous rage in preparation for the "excitement".

Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: Quinn-nine (IP Logged)
Date: 12/05/2010 14:23

Thanks BFS, that's pretty much what I recall being said.

I'm glad you are looking into the binders and socks for my freakishly large feet.

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Re: Quins Merchandising Forum 2010 Report
Posted by: mentat (IP Logged)
Date: 13/05/2010 11:50

Was anything mentioned about the poor quality of the reflink radios? I know a lot of people have had issues with them, both myself and my father had to get ours replaced.

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