Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins


By Wyddy
October 23 2012

So, back to the bread and butter of the Premiership after the hard fought exploits in Europe, which seemed to come as a welcome relief after a couple of reverses to Exeter and Saracens. 

This weekend we travel to Reading to take on London Irish, a side who at the start of the season resembled an Alfa Romeo, glitzy looking on paper but with enough electrical faults to give you an aneurysm. Their start to the season was nearly as bad as Sale’s, this took most pundits by surprise after a fairly good pre-season including a win over Munster away from home. However their first win was only registered against a decidedly dodgy Bath team, however in the last round of Premiership action they registered a significant win over top of the table Northampton. Are their new signings starting to gel and begin to deliver on the promise that was shown in pre-season? 

The problems that were endemic to their play in the early part of the season seemed to stem from a lack of forward firepower, not to mention that the playing side experienced a bit of a revolving door during the close season, with many leaving and many coming in. However in the game against Saints their pack showed up well at the breakdown and in collisions and bossed the tight areas for the first 60 minutes. The same areas Quins have drawn criticism for in their losses against Exeter and Sarries. What has changed for Irish? Well their wrecking ball smash on Saints began with a line out steal that was fed out to a back line, that for the first time this season seemed to work together. The dynamo at the heart of it was Joseph, who had a hand in everything that was good for them, delightfully splitting the Saints defensive line with a grubber which a couple of phases later he touched down. He then set up two further tries in the first half, drawing defenders for Paice to score then slipping a pass through to Topsy Ojo who just managed to get over the line. All this without prodigal son, Shane Geraghty, who was meant to be the catalyst to spark Irish’s potent back line. 

Their forays into Europe in the Challenge Cup will have bolstered their confidence, a significant beating of Bordeaux-Begles by 43 – 16 away from home was impressive. Yet this was followed up by an even more convincing 11 try rout of minnows Mont de Marsan, even though they conceded a couple of tries in both these games they were far out in front by the time the reprisals occurred. 

Fortunately for Quins, Irish continue to be a side who like to play the ball. We’ve seen in the past that Quins can sometimes get undone by teams who come with a game plan to frustrate and stick it up the jumper. If Irish intend to play us on the front foot, with ball in hand this should be an entertaining match up. Their scrum has not functioned particularly well throughout the season although they did gain parity with a normally intense Saints pack. They feature some significant talent in their forward division, Garvey who is continually touted for eventual England honours has impressed only in spurts. They also added proven Premiership quality in Skivington, whilst Gibson and Treviranus have also shown their potency, however in the early part of the season there seemed to be a disconnect, maybe this has been corrected. Confidence will clearly be high after their last 3 wins, but the visit of the champions will have them on their toes. 

Quins for their part have come back strongly from the debacle at the Sandy Park stadium. The Biarritz game started with what can only be described as a Quins fans worst nightmare, Nick Evans off injured after 13 mins with a nasty tweak. However Conor had gone for Botica on the bench in preference to Rory Clegg. Clegg continues to draw differing opinions from fans, some say that he needs to be given time at the coal face to establish his confidence rather than 10 minute cameos. Others say that he’s had his chances but his consistency is all over the shop and it becomes like waiting for a Nascar crash when he’s playing. Yes he didn’t have the best of games against Exeter – but who did? We were dominated up front and played on the back foot for the majority of the game. Clegg remains a conundrum. Conor publicly backs the player (of course he would), however the majority of fans on this site, including this writer, seem to have had their wishes granted and we’ll get to see a little bit of Ben Botica. 

We weren’t let down when he came on much earlier than expected against Heineken cup finalists Biarritz. The most glowing comment Botica garnered in the game against Biarritz when he came on for the crocked Evans, was that there was no change in style or in quality. High praise indeed. He found his feet in the remainder of the first half, and then along with the rest of the team, really kicked on in the second half. He split the line with decisive running, he passed well out of hand, when the offload wasn’t on, he took the ball into contact well and ensured a smooth recycling. His kicking was imperious both from the tee and out of hand, with only one small error. In short it was a significant notice of arrival from a player who had previously only had one of those 10 minute cameos... he scored a try in that too. Naturally the papers went over the top and he was even mentioned in terms of playing 10 for England by virtue of his UK passport. This is more a damning indictment of the current floundering for the best English option at 10 as opinion wavers between Farrell, Flood and the as yet uncapped, Burns. 

However this was no one man show, there was significant development in the centres with Matt Hopper having a storming game and, hallelujah – his tackling was much improved as was his defensive line, coupled with Jordan Turner-Hall doing what he does best and breaking the gain-line, this set up the backline for a couple of sustained attacks. Danny Care continued his sparkling form of earlier in the season going over for the first try following a slick training park line out move, he continued to spark off the pack and break the line with impunity in the second half. His breaks helping Matt Buchanan register his first try for the club with a grin that would have seen off floodlights, and for which he has been roundly ribbed by the rest of the team. His performance matched the rest of the pack as they atoned for a lack of intensity against Exeter, eventually getting on top of a powerful Biarritz scrum. However Robshaw continues to hang back at the breakdown in his first receiver role. Yes this gives us the option of him deciding whether to crash ball it again or to fling it out, but this season I believe other teams in the Premiership have read this and are subsequently prepared for it. The flip ball to an onrushing Big Mo having been made on a number of occasions resulting in Mo being thumped backwards a metre or so. What was successful last season, won’t necessarily be so this season. Time to reassess or adjust? 

Nevertheless a bonus point was controversially gained as Seb Stegman crunched over for the 4th try, managing to nil Biarritz in the process is a significant achievement in the group. This was also built on by a bruising and challenging encounter with perennial foes Connaught. Botica retaining his spot at 10 with Cleggster on the bench and Sam Smith coming in for the injured Ugo. 

Connaught put up some seriously stiff opposition and but for a 2 try burst from the on fire imp, Danny Care, we could have come up short again at the Sportsground. Honourable mentions for Nick Easter, who claimed more kick off ball in Connaughts territory than I would have thought possible and for DC and Botica who continued their embryonic double act. Botica still has a tendency to get too stuck in at rucks, however that’s a positive as well as a negative and his decision making in this area will develop with time. On the negative side big Ollie Kohn seemed to have trouble keeping on the right side of the ref and Hopper’s old problems with defensive positioning seemed to recur. 

Barring any injuries from the win at Connaught, the side should pick itself for the London Oirish fixture, in what I am sure Conor O’Shea will have picked as a must win on the road map for the season. Joe Gray should be fit to return and possibly Tom Guest to start at 6 over Maurie Fa’asavalu. With running rugby on the cards it will be intriguing to see how Jordan Turner-Hall deals with his England rival Jonathan Joseph. Irish will be looking to get Joseph as much ball as possible and if he continues where he left off against Northampton then JTH is in for a busy day, he’ll have to hope that Hopper recalls his form from the Biarritz game and the defensive line holds. 

Quins should have enough in the armoury to win this one, however they need to retain the passion and commitment to both the breakdown and collisions that has been apparent in Europe, cut out any channels that will be inviting to Josephs and dominate at scrum-time. Anything less and Irish eyes could be smiling. 

COYQ!!!! 

Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: ComeAllWithin.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 13:36

What do you think? You can have your say by posting below.
If you do not already have an account Click here to Register.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Adi Nako (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 13:47

And there I was considering asking where the previews had gone to!

Thank you Wyddy, excellent preview. I'm looking forward to this and if the weather holds out, I'm sure the next two weekends will give us some great rugby.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: SirBurger (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 14:03

Great preview...one thing though. Garvey only impresses in spurts if your definition of spurts is for 80 minutes of every match!

Good luck at the weekend. As an Irish fan I am nervous and excited in equal measure. Think we will run you very close on current form, but you will probably just shade it.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Wyddy (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 14:40

Thanks Adi and SirBurger, am only previewing the Prem games at the moment as my European knowledge needs development!

PS I won't make the joke about 80 min spurts that I want to. Will leave that for Steeevo.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: MH@Biorra (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 14:54

Another one who's really looking forward to Sunday. Often used expression but it is almost 'too close to call'.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: T-Bone (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 15:15

Good preview. Thanks.

Shame Lowe is not fit. He played well on tour before he got injured and I think he could have had a decent battle with joseph, both in this game and in terms of england squad/bench selection. Having said that, his defensive displays on the wing in the double header would tend to suggest he should only be considered as a 13.

Should be a decent game. Irish are very inconsistent but have a very strong backline and at their ground I would have thought they'd start as marginal favourites

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: quinshead (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 15:52

Good preview one point I would make is that Hopper it seems is more often than not blamed for the holes in mid field but JTH has also to step up and take some responsibility. I am going to the game and can't wait am a little nervous though

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Stooperman (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 15:57

Great preview Wyddy, thanks

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Adi Nako (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 15:59

Quote:
Wyddy
Thanks Adi and SirBurger, am only previewing the Prem games at the moment as my European knowledge needs development!

That's fair enough, it would be nice if someone else could give previews for these matches though...

My European knowledge is far too poor and my writing even more so, so I can't but if somebody wants to give it a go, I would certainly be very appreciative!

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: anotherfleetquin (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 16:30

Great preview, one minor correction though...Matt Buchanan?!confused smiley

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Wyddy (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 16:32

Yeh thats what his mates call him...! (noted! winking smiley)

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: pinkernel (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 17:35

Excellent preview, Wyddy - thank you very much.

Looking forward to this one - in my experience, our previous expeditions down the M4 have always produced tense, sometimes nervy, encounters.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2012 20:11

Having a look at the fixtures this weekend, before we play sunday we could be down in 5/6th place!!!

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: What (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2012 09:34

Excellent preview as a London Irish fan I think you have called it right, one hopes I be wrong.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: deadlyfrom5yardsout (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2012 10:34

And a bit more from the Prem Site....

[www.premiershiprugby.com]

The game's afoot;
Follow your spirit: and upon this charge,
Cry — God for Harry! England and Saint George

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Baron Steevo von Bratwurst (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2012 16:27

Ah, 80 min spurts. The preserve of the younger man, alas. Although I used to go out with a girl who... uh... never mind.

"Last one in's an Offiziere. No offence Sir."

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Monte (IP Logged)
Date: 24/10/2012 17:11

Premier site is ridiculous - we have not won at the Madjeski since 2009 because we have not played there in 2011 we played them at the big Stoop! Just plain daft.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: SirBurger (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2012 09:01

Not true. We beat you there in 2011 - I was there. Same day as England win over France in the 6 Nations. Dire 15-9 win for Irish if I remember.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Adi Nako (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2012 09:16

The man has a point, just because we didn't play there last season doesn't mean we didn't play there in 2011!

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Rugby101 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2012 09:31

I was there too. Shocking performance from the forwards I seem to remember.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2012 12:32

Thanks Wyddy. I can see us losing this I'm afraid.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Rugby101 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2012 12:35

50/50 on this one, but I suspect Glos will smash us next weekend

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Fursty (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2012 15:51

Nick we have quite a good record at home against Glos - also their style of play suits us I feel.

Re: Preview: London Irish vs Harlequins
Posted by: Stooperman (IP Logged)
Date: 25/10/2012 16:23

Quote:
Fursty
Nick we have quite a good record at home against Glos - also their style of play suits us I feel.

Still makes me laugh that game two seasons ago when we thrashed them the week after their LV cup win. Glaws wag behind me when they were awarded a penalty on their 10m line when the score was something like 45-3 "Go for the Three!"

Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
We record all IP addresses on the Sportnetwork message boards which may be required by the authorities in case of defamatory or abusive comment. We seek to monitor the Message Boards at regular intervals. We do not associate Sportnetwork with any of the comments and do not take responsibility for any statements or opinions expressed on the Message Boards. If you have any cause for concern over any material posted here please let us know as soon as possible by e-mailing abuse@sportnetwork.net